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lostandconfused 13-03-2008 20:14
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
If i live in or next door to the exchange and didnt pay £1.50 for my 20mb connection then I would probably go with sky too as it is cheaper and could offer a similar speed as cable.

But As i dont live next door to an exchnage and dont know the quality of the line ill stick with cable

grabbi 13-03-2008 20:22
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
Ummm... Your not gonna lock this topic, are you? I have a feeling some people are going to want to read it, but I dont want it to end up in the garbage pile with other Flamed topics...

---------- Post added at 19:22 ---------- Previous post was at 19:19 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 34506411)
Conveniently forgetting the cost of a BT line again.... ;)
hehe. Brilliant...

I tried the SamKnows thing, and heres what I got:

ADSL available at ~6.5Mbps
ADSL2+ available at ~16Mbps
Cable services available

611m away from the exchange...

Enuff 13-03-2008 20:32
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
Waste of time...

ADSL available at ~5Mbps
ADSL2+ available at ~6Mbps
Cable services available

Mick 13-03-2008 20:38
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34506389)
Like i said - Proof?
Cable vs ADSL - Cable comes out winning hands down, that is proof enough. :rolleyes:

Ramrod 13-03-2008 20:39
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
It tells me I can get cable when I know I can't :D

Sirius 13-03-2008 20:44
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
Hey guys

Hang on while i get my deck chair from the shed and a cold one out of the Fridge :D

Mick 13-03-2008 20:46
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34506442)
Hey guys

Hang on while i get my deck chair from the shed and a cold one out of the Fridge :D
Careful you might get a targetted ad for Beaches. :LOL:

shawty 13-03-2008 20:52
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34506382)
It could be? Who knows, who cares - its about reliability and sadly Sky is lacking and has been proven to be.

When Sky has 2 million more customers then come back to me and say Sky won't implement traffic management on its network.

How would you know which was restrictive you are not a VM customer? - Or are you Just coming out with your one sided crap again? Oh wait, yes you are. No surprise there then. :rolleyes:
Isnt that the point though, Sky dont have 2 million more customers so they dont implement it. Thats like saying, you go blind and then come and tell me you cant see anything, well Im not blind and I can see.

At the end of the day both of you are arguing over something thats not going to have a winner. Some people have bad experiances with Sky, some have it with Virgin, why try and out do each other one this one, you cant change peoples 'facts' on a bad service.

Sirius 13-03-2008 20:58
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34506446)
Careful you might get a targetted ad for Beaches. :LOL:
Nice one :tu:

Mick 13-03-2008 21:04
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawty (Post 34506450)
Isnt that the point though, Sky dont have 2 million more customers so they dont implement it. Thats like saying, you go blind and then come and tell me you cant see anything, well Im not blind and I can see.

At the end of the day both of you are arguing over something thats not going to have a winner. Some people have bad experiances with Sky, some have it with Virgin, why try and out do each other one this one, you cant change peoples 'facts' on a bad service.
The point I am trying to raise is that Sky have one third the amount of BB customers Virgin Media has.

Also about your other point about trying to out do TBR's views. I am not trying to out do, if someone posts inaccurate information or tries to make blanket statements based on their own experience and noones elses, then I am going to come in and correct those inaccuracies. Let's make no mistake, TBR loves Sky and I have no problem with that, I have the problem where its being said Sky BB is a better product, when its quite clearly not as per the obvious pros and cons about the technologies between Cable vs ADSL.

Toto 13-03-2008 21:13
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
I love the assumption that Sky don't limit traffic, must give my mate on Sky's BB network management team again, and wait for the BluRaja to register with Virgin Broadband :)

Losttheplot 13-03-2008 21:13
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
Sky's bundled TV package is so much better than Virgins though. Virgin seem to have almost given up with its TV services and are willing to play second fiddle. The only channels that Virgin encode themselves are VOD and BBC HD. Even BBC HD is a decode and re-code, all other channels are taken from satellite and rate shaped. Rate shaping can never mean picture quality is as good as sky's. They can't economically take any other sky HD channels due to their short sighted use of MPEG2 HD.
If the rumour that Virgin are selling its Flextech channels is true then Virgin really do seem to be content in being an ISP. TV is an after thought. I hope they don't sell flextech and at least offer some resistance/competition to Sky.
A Virgin 1 channel can only be a good thing if it lasts.

Toto 13-03-2008 21:17
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Losttheplot (Post 34506462)
Sky's bundled TV package is so much better than Virgins though. Virgin seem to have almost given up with its TV services and are willing to play second fiddle. The only channels that Virgin encode themselves are VOD and BBC HD. Even BBC HD is a decode and re-code, all other channels are taken from satellite and rate shaped. Rate shaping can never mean picture quality is as good as sky's. They can't economically take any other sky HD channels due to their short sighted use of MPEG2 HD.
If the rumour that Virgin are selling its Flextech channels is true then Virgin really do seem to be content in being an ISP. TV is an after thought. I hope they don't sell flextech and at least offer some resistance/competition to Sky.
A Virgin 1 channel can only be a good thing if it lasts.
What has Sky TV got to do with this thread????

Nedkelly 13-03-2008 21:19
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
I live in small close some are on adsl and others are on cable .My friend across the road left cable and went to sky he is on the 16meg and because we live a long way from the exchange he is lucky if he gets 6 to 7 meg .My neighbour is on BT he gets about the same .Both have had BT out to check the line and the have confirmed this because they live to far from the exchange .I am on 20 meg and the worst i have got is 11 meg and the best after the reseg was 19 .There is always going to be the spilt who is faster my farther in law lives in the country on a farm and the best he can get is 512k if he is lucky and only bt will give him a service :)

Losttheplot 13-03-2008 21:26
Re: Wait, Wait, Wait... Sky's beating VM?!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toto (Post 34506464)
What has Sky TV got to do with this thread????
The point i didn't make very well is that virgin seem to be sitting back and relying on its BB as the be all and end all solution.
At home I also have Sky BB. Upto 8 M and I get above 7.

7M is more than enough for me and more than enough for most people who only surf. So overall I think higher speeds will only appeal to the minority who need to download at the highest speed possible all the time.
I don't think BB is the most appealing thing to most Sky or virgin customers.


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