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SMHarman 12-03-2008 14:39

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Originally Posted by Jules (Post 34505460)
Some of the notes were found in his car according to the news yesterday, his poor family, it is always worse when someone takes there own life :(

It's a problem, Suicide is usually a cry for help, women are much better at doing it without killing themselves, men on the other hand see to pick methods of suicide that mean the cry for help is found too late.

freezin 12-03-2008 18:38

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Sad news, but what was someone who had "suffered from bouts of depression, and had previously threatened suicide" doing in such a such a responsible, high profile public position? :rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/7292662.stm

SMHarman 12-03-2008 19:04

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Originally Posted by freezin (Post 34505638)
Sad news, but what was someone who had "suffered from bouts of depression, and had previously threatened suicide" doing in such a such a responsible, high profile public position? :rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/7292662.stm

Because anyone that has a type A personality that will drive them to aspire to this level of greatness will have the flaws that come with it, whether they are a Police chief, Politician (Spitzer anyone), or Rock Star.

fireman328 12-03-2008 19:15

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Condolences to his family and his colleagues.
R.I.P

freezin 12-03-2008 22:06

Re: Top UK police chief is found dead
 
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Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34505654)
Because anyone that has a type A personality that will drive them to aspire to this level of greatness will have the flaws that come with it, whether they are a Police chief, Politician (Spitzer anyone), or Rock Star.

I meant that he should have been removed from his post given his state of mind!

Wicked_and_Crazy 12-03-2008 22:30

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34505119)
Why do we have to know someone to think that suicide is a shame?

You dont, but surely you need to know the context before you can have a view. For example and im in no way making any link or judgement this is just an example "did you think Fred West commiting suicide was a shame?"

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Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34505486)
It's a problem, Suicide is usually a cry for help, women are much better at doing it without killing themselves, men on the other hand see to pick methods of suicide that mean the cry for help is found too late.

so so true. trouble is men dont talk, women do

superbiatch 12-03-2008 22:37

Re: Top UK police chief is found dead
 
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Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34505486)
It's a problem, Suicide is usually a cry for help, women are much better at doing it without killing themselves, men on the other hand see to pick methods of suicide that mean the cry for help is found too late.

In my experience - those who talk about committing suicide tend not to go ahead thankfully, recognising its irrationality (did i just make that word up :confused:). The ones we should worry about are the ones who say nothing.

Obviously, his problems were out in the open going by the news reports, but had anyone noticed a downward spiral in his mood of recent, or did it go unnoticed :(

Suicide is always a shame, especially for those left behind :erm:

Cobbydaler 12-03-2008 22:40

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Irrationality is a perfectly valid term...

IMHO you're correct, the strong, silent type are those at risk.

molly malone 12-03-2008 23:16

Re: Top UK police chief is found dead
 
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Originally Posted by Jules (Post 34505460)
Some of the notes were found in his car according to the news yesterday, his poor family, it is always worse when someone takes there own life :(

On tonights news it said that a SUNDAY PAPER was going to print another side of his private life..that is so sad

SMHarman 13-03-2008 14:40

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Originally Posted by freezin (Post 34505801)
I meant that he should have been removed from his post given his state of mind!

You cannot just go removing anyone from any post because of something they have said. There are these boring things called employment laws you need to consider. Just because someone is depressed you don't sack them, you help them. Many firms have corporate counciling and annonymous numbers for this purpose, not a 1930s mentality to the problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression
It is not an uncommon illness to have.

Xaccers 13-03-2008 15:08

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Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34505816)
You dont, but surely you need to know the context before you can have a view. For example and im in no way making any link or judgement this is just an example "did you think Fred West commiting suicide was a shame?"

Yes, he escaped his punishment by doing so.

Jules 13-03-2008 17:44

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The world is a better place without the likes of Fred West in it, at least we don't have to pay bucket loads of money to keep him in comfort for the rest of his life.

Xaccers 13-03-2008 17:46

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Originally Posted by Jules (Post 34506324)
The world is a better place without the likes of Fred West in it, at least we don't have to pay bucket loads of money to keep him in comfort for the rest of his life.

Have you been in prison Jules?

Jules 13-03-2008 18:01

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No and I hope I never do but we all know that people that are never going to be released get a hell of a lot of privileges, Peter Suitcliff, Ian Brady, Rosemary West, just to name a few.

Wicked_and_Crazy 13-03-2008 18:02

Re: Top UK police chief is found dead
 
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Originally Posted by Jules (Post 34506324)
The world is a better place without the likes of Fred West in it, at least we don't have to pay bucket loads of money to keep him in comfort for the rest of his life.

exactly my point.

it appears this guy took his own life because he was afraid the bad things he had been doing were about to be exposed too


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