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Re: The Real Reason Behind Why Hemp + Weed is illegal

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34502010)

Thalidomide, relieves suffering in people with leprosy, is an anti-inflamatory, releaves morning sickness, is effective in treating myeloma, and Crohn's disease.
Plenty of pros there right? Must be a wonder drug! Oh wow. Now, what cons are there? Yes, that's right, deformed babies. Not so wonderful is it?

Can you please try to understand, marijuana is not the same as hemp?
The Body Shop sell hemp products for goodness sake!

As for Bill Hicks, don't you realise he was an elder too?
We were into Hicks while you were still learning literacy skills.
Oh wait...

Miss Deuteronomy, oh how I laughed.

hemp and marijuana are from the same seed you fool, i know cultivation better than anyone on this site, 3 of my friends are into cultivation 2 with degrees in it, i will tell you now deformed babies whats that got to do with an individual who smokes it?

Should anyone be taking any drugs when pregnant?

Theres thousands of pro's for weed i saw a program on TV where they were using it as an alternative for lukemia (ignore spelling) and it was working fantastic on people.

and it is a wonder drug how ever much you've been drawn into the propaganda the news fills your head with day in day out,

weed and hemp which are derived from the same seed is the best plant on this planet, and any real cultivatist who knows about real cultivation will tell you the same thing.

You can speak down to me all you like pal, but it doesnt work mate, in real life you would never patronise me i'd be looking down on you.

i can assure you what you think is the truth, is just the opinion of a dumb mass amount of people, follow the leader - follow the sheep - follow the fool.

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ahhhhh now i get where all these conspiracy theories have come from.....

Someone been on the wackey backey again?:erm:

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Originally Posted by lostandconfused (Post 34502042)

ahhhhh now i get where all these conspiracy theories have come from.....

Someone been on the wackey backey again?:erm:

Just what I was thinking, it's known to cause Paranoia of course :)

Re: The Real Reason Behind Why Hemp + Weed is illegal

Excuse me, my little hat-wearing friendly OP, may I refer you to the Wiki article, especially the first line Link
"This article is about the cultivation and uses of industrial hemp, not its psychoactive cousin Cannabis (drug)".

It would appear you are equating two different strains of plants to be the same thing, which is much like saying because you share 95% of your DNA with an anthropoid, you're a chimp..........

To further counter some of your more "imaginative" statements, may I suggest your read the rest of the Wiki, which states, amongst other points -
"Hemp (from Old English hÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¦nep, see cannabis (etymology)) is the common name for plants of the entire family of Cannabis, although the term is often used to refer only to Cannabis strains cultivated for industrial (non-drug) use. Hemp is cultivated virtually everywhere in the world except for the United States, and its cultivation in western countries is growing steadily. For example, Canadian Hempseed exports surged 300% last year, according to VoteHemp. China, and other eastern countries, never prohibited its cultivation and use it extensively.
Industrial hemp has thousands of potential uses, from paper to textiles to biodegradable plastics to health food to fuel but it has not been the great commercial success that the enthusiast hoped for in countries where it is legal to harvest."

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502016)

hemp and marijuana are from the same seed you fool, i know cultivation better than anyone on this site, 3 of my friends are into cultivation 2 with degrees in it, i will tell you now deformed babies whats that got to do with an individual who smokes it?
You're quite rude, aren't you? Funnily enough, my brother in law is a Director of a Pharmaceuticals company, but that doesn't make me a drug expert.

Should anyone be taking any drugs when pregnant?
When prescribed by a doctor, and proven to be safe, erm, yes

Theres thousands of pro's for weed i saw a program on TV where they were using it as an alternative for lukemia (ignore spelling) and it was working fantastic on people.
I would say "some pro's", not thousands, myself - it has been used for pain relief; but then again, so has morphine............

and it is a wonder drug how ever much you've been drawn into the propaganda the news fills your head with day in day out,
But of course, only you know the truth (is it out there?)

weed and hemp which are derived from the same seed is the best plant on this planet, and any real cultivatist who knows about real cultivation will tell you the same thing.
erm, no - The THC levels in Industrial Hemp are so low that no one could get high from smoking it. Moreover, hemp contains a relatively high percentage of another cannabinoid, CBD, that actually blocks the marijuana high. Hemp, it turns out, is not only not marijuana; it could be called "anti-marijuana".

You can speak down to me all you like pal, but it doesnt work mate, in real life you would never patronise me i'd be looking down on you.
That's an opinion (imho) that you're entitled to - doesn't make it true, though ;)

i can assure you what you think is the truth, is just the opinion of a dumb mass amount of people, follow the leader - follow the sheep - follow the fool.
The true sign of someone losing a debate - when rational argument fails, use abuse (again) :dozey:

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502016)

i can assure you what you think is the truth, is just the opinion of a dumb mass amount of people, follow the leader - follow the sheep - follow the fool.

Nah. I prefer to follow the evidence - scientific and personal. You seem very keen on advocating the possible benefits, but not so the drawbacks. You aren't by any chance a Scientologist too, are you? ;)

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501997)

the olympics is one thing happening, but that wasnt what was predicted, and im not talking bible prophecies here. Im talking the most ancient races on this planet recorded all stating the world would change on the year 2012, based on the weather, the astrological proof of Planet x (nibiru) and evidence supporting it being what the actual "big bang" was, is unreal. As for whats destined. Lets just to be gentle years of unreal weather and far worse.

Nibiru?

I'm afraid you obviously haven't done your research - Nibiru (as a name) is just part of Sumerian astrology. The Babylonians believed that it was the celestial body of the god Marduk, which was equated to Zeus in Greek, and has pretty much been attributed to Jupiter.

Now, I could be wrong, but I think astrological proof of Jupiter was ascertained quite a while ago - Galileo discovered some its moons in 1610, so I'm fairly sure that proof has been accepted, what with the various probe missions that have been sent there :shrug:

I think you may be interested in Jupiter for two reasons - firstly, it's a gas giant, and secondly, it's hot. Load of hot gas anyone?

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502016)

You can speak down to me all you like pal, but it doesnt work mate, in real life you would never patronise me i'd be looking down on you.

You probably wouldn't be - Xaccers is quite tall :)

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501976)

heres a site to view regarding the subject if your open minded you'll see the truth. There was a program on the history channel recently called the history of marijuana there was leading cultivators on there saying its the greatest plant in the world and the whole program glorified the plants uses and basically was asking "why is this plant illegal?"

i ask the same questions and i understand exactly why nowadays with the propaganda ontop and the promotion of binge drinking alcohol i can see there clearly trying to turn the younger generations into nut case larger louts and yes its the drinkers who cause the most problems.

I know many people who smoke from all walks of life guys who work every day n have a family and none of them act that way they keep a level head because they smoke and its a 5 sense enhancer hence it heightens your various senses and many things you do under the influence will be enhanced and you will carry them out more efficiently(yes we live in a 5 sense reality science and psycology prooven for you mainstreamers).

It is only Addictions formed mentallly (which are your own fault and can be formed with absulotely anything) they are the real problem here. That is what can cause what people like to call Skitzophrenia but that is not the drug that is your mind state the way your thinking just for the addiction. That is easy to break and its been prooven weed is not physically addictive. As for why it should be legal heres why....

http://www.illuminati-news.com/marijuana-conspiracy.htm

I forget, What is the illuminati? I didn't read about it in mainstream monthly.

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Also, Can I ask how you separate support for drugs from the level of social deprevation caused by the drugs trade. Admittedly weeds is not exactly a major force in it but none the less

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501976)

It is only Addictions formed mentallly (which are your own fault and can be formed with absulotely anything) they are the real problem here. That is what can cause what people like to call Skitzophrenia but that is not the drug that is your mind state the way your thinking just for the addiction. That is easy to break and its been prooven weed is not physically addictive. As for why it should be legal heres why....

http://www.illuminati-news.com/marijuana-conspiracy.htm

I don't think anyone is trying to argue that cannabis (itself) is either addictive, or, indeed dangerous. I personally don't think it's addictive, although I have to admit, out of everyone I know who has smoked it, only one person stopped after smoking one joint. Pure cannabis is also not dangerous. The resin that a lot of people smoke, however, is a *lot* stronger, and has been linked with various mental disorders.

Before you say that's just me believing mainstream hype, it isn't. I have at least one friend who has fairly severe mental problems (he stays on his meds, he's OK, if he doesn't he tends to do things "because the voices tell him to"), and a few others who have been smoking for years, and are starting to show extreme paranoia.

Re: The Real Reason Behind Why Hemp + Weed is illegal

Shaolin, have you been on Durban Poison again?

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502006)

tetrahydrocannabinol has been prooven to do plenty more good than bad.

Can we have some primary sources to back this up - preferably papers/journals that have the correct number of capital letters and full stops?

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Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502016)

hemp and marijuana are from the same seed you fool, i know cultivation better than anyone on this site, 3 of my friends are into cultivation 2 with degrees in it

Cambridge, Oxford, Leicester poly?

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Friends of mine have to go for counselling and anger management due to the intake of cannabis. In fact, one of my friends tell me often that it is addictive, no matter what anyone says - he is struggling so badly to keep off it at the moment, but he's had serious problems with fits of rage due to this drug he cannot touch it without losing it.

The beginning of this thread is nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34502319)

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hemp and marijuana are from the same seed you fool, i know cultivation better than anyone on this site, 3 of my friends are into cultivation 2 with degrees in it?

Cambridge, Oxford, Leicester poly?

De Montfort University, dont'cha know..... ;)

Didn't know you could get a Bachelor's in cultivating 'erb - and they say that Universities today don't teach anything of value. :D

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Originally Posted by Kellargh (Post 34502325)

The beginning of this thread is nonsense.

The beginning is nonsense???!!! You obviously haven't read the rest of it yet ;)

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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34502328)

The beginning is nonsense???!!! You obviously haven't read the rest of it yet ;)

Thingsggggggggggggs can only get better,
can only get better,
now we've found THESHAOLIN1 (and you and you and you and you)

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34502336)

Thingsggggggggggggs can only get better,
can only get better,
now we've found THESHAOLIN1 (and you and you and you and you)

Careful - Freddy Krueger came in D:reams. Who knows what mystical powers the 'erb has bestowed on our monk-like friend...