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xspeedyx 22-02-2008 14:03

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
Depending on how much it costs on a staff account I might upgrade to 50MB hopefully the upstream wil help and with docsis 3.0 might upgrade the 20MB upstream

Welshchris 22-02-2008 14:23

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
i reckon that the upload isnt gonna be much more than around 2mb

Tijer 22-02-2008 14:28

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
But with Virgins VIP pack surely the broadband speed should be upped to 50 mb? Seeing as its meant to be a "Very Impressive Package"

xspeedyx 22-02-2008 14:33

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijer (Post 34493852)
But with Virgins VIP pack surely the broadband speed should be upped to 50 mb? Seeing as its meant to be a "Very Impressive Package"

So 50MB will be a premium package not included 20MB is enough as vm would lose money after they have upgraded to docsis 3.0 on ALL ubrs if all vip and 20 meggers went to 50mb

dev 22-02-2008 15:08

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijer (Post 34493852)
But with Virgins VIP pack surely the broadband speed should be upped to 50 mb? Seeing as its meant to be a "Very Impressive Package"

the price quoted somewhere was £50 and seeing as 20mb "is" £37, I can see a second VIP pack coming out for either £90 or £95, same as it is now but with 50mb instead of 20mb.

to those saying about sites not giving 50mb, shared hosting sites are likely to be 10mb and at most 100mb and most likely won't give you 50mb. speedtest.net never has gone above ~35mb for me (on various 100mb connections). the bigger sites like microsoft/apple/sourceforge which actually give proper sized downloads have multiple servers all with 1gbit+ connections and would likely give closer 50mb.

Welshchris 22-02-2008 16:19

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dev (Post 34493866)
the price quoted somewhere was £50 and seeing as 20mb "is" £37, I can see a second VIP pack coming out for either £90 or £95, same as it is now but with 50mb instead of 20mb.

to those saying about sites not giving 50mb, shared hosting sites are likely to be 10mb and at most 100mb and most likely won't give you 50mb. speedtest.net never has gone above ~35mb for me (on various 100mb connections). the bigger sites like microsoft/apple/sourceforge which actually give proper sized downloads have multiple servers all with 1gbit+ connections and would likely give closer 50mb.

they will proberbly drop the price of the 20mb to around £30 or something

sav112 22-02-2008 16:45

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34493745)
CS & TS will say absolutley anything to a customer if they think that's what they want to hear. Just look at all the previous posts from those who were promised the 4Mb to 10Mb upgrade sometime last year.

If you believe that VM will give all the 20Mb'ers a free upgrade to 50Mb then you're living in cuckoo land. Simple Logic dictates that 4Mb, 10Mb, 20Mb and 50Mb is a probably tiering for VM BB and not 4Mb, 10Mb and 50Mb

Kymmy

Think you will find thay want 10MB - 20MB - 50MB

The 4MB is already going upto 10MB and i think they will do away with the 2MB.

Just to add I’m on the 2mb and quite happy with it. Yes 10Mb might help my Clan game with FM I Host but hay the price is spot on for me.

Price wise and this is just me blowing hot air I’d love it to be sensible.

10MB - £15 Fair price that would win over a lot of customers I bet from other ISP’s Question is would Virgin rather have customer paying them a lower reasonable price for the service or BT and the rest of the other ISP.

20MB - £25

50MB - £45 Totally not worth it for the majority I bet but if that’s what you want then your on the cutting edge therefore cost.

Welshchris 22-02-2008 17:14

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sav112 (Post 34493919)
Think you will find thay want 10MB - 20MB - 50MB

The 4MB is already going upto 10MB and i think they will do away with the 2MB.

not according to head office, the 2mb entry level will stay.

BenMcr 22-02-2008 17:22

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
What they mean is there are no current plans. not there will never be any plans ;)

Akia 22-02-2008 17:35

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
I think that after the dust has settled on the 4 to 10 upgrade then the will look at the 2meg customers. Just the same as what happened with the 10 to 20 customers.

VM have not made any offical statement as to whats happening in regards to the 50meg connection apart from its coming. Unless you are speaking to one of the directors or the product managers then none of the front line staff know anything and its just hearsay,

sav112 22-02-2008 17:59

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 34493947)
not according to head office, the 2mb entry level will stay.

Personally I think they will be wanting rid of such an entry level as they upgrade –well that’s a bit of a no brainer, but your right in the short term I’m sure.

The right question probably is how long will the entry level stay what it is?

johnmc 22-02-2008 18:25

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
I wanted to live in Cornwall when I read this;
http://www.goonhilly.bt.com/discover...rnet_cafe.html

100mb/s sounds quite good ............... and then I found this;
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...icle737972.ece
2 Gb/s ............ in the UK 2 years ago! WOW!

And then I found this;
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07...et_connection/



And now I'm just depressed .............:sleep:

Bonglet 22-02-2008 18:29

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
why do people still think that because you can download faster its so much better, for a true multitasking connection it has to have decent upload too the more download speed goes up compared to upload speed is laughable really 756k upload on a 20mb connection is pretty shabby and upload is the main congestion hotpot on cable networks is it not?.

docsis 3 might improve it a bit but untill true fibre to the door old upload will still be kept down a lot on vm network, the upload speed especially on the ex telewest network was poor (NTL had faster upload than Telewest i think) and i think that on the 20mb rollout that is what borked the old telewest customers as there ubr's couldnt handle the extra oomph from 30k to 90k.

oliver1948uk 22-02-2008 18:34

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
Just did a check:

Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:31:57 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 449 ms = 2280.6 KB/sec, approx 18792 Kbps, 18.35 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 437 ms = 2343.2 KB/sec, approx 19308 Kbps, 18.86 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 455 ms = 2250.5 KB/sec, approx 18544 Kbps, 18.11 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 916 ms = 2235.8 KB/sec, approx 18423 Kbps, 17.99 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 18767 Kbps, 18.33 Mbps

It does fluctuate quite a bit, but it is normally about this

xspeedyx 22-02-2008 20:09

Re: 20 Meg to 50 Meg upgrade.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonglet (Post 34494007)
why do people still think that because you can download faster its so much better, for a true multitasking connection it has to have decent upload too the more download speed goes up compared to upload speed is laughable really 756k upload on a 20mb connection is pretty shabby and upload is the main congestion hotpot on cable networks is it not?.

docsis 3 might improve it a bit but untill true fibre to the door old upload will still be kept down a lot on vm network, the upload speed especially on the ex telewest network was poor (NTL had faster upload than Telewest i think) and i think that on the 20mb rollout that is what borked the old telewest customers as there ubr's couldnt handle the extra oomph from 30k to 90k.

well I am ex-telewest and my upload has always been fine


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