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danielf 27-06-2007 17:21

Re: No Polish, no job
 
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Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34338082)
same thing is happening in Holland now if you arent a EU citizen and want to apply to live in Holland... you need to be able to speak passable dutch within I thought I heard 9 months.

In some ways (and okay I'm going to get bbq'ed for this now) I do agree with this and that perhaps the UK should implement this as well.

I fully expect to be forced to do a citizenship course due to having been away too long if I ever decide to back :Yikes:

DocDutch 27-06-2007 17:26

Re: No Polish, no job
 
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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34338095)
Look on IT job sites, you'll see loads of positions for German speaker or Dutch speaker or French speakers based in the UK, are they acting illegally by only employing people who can speak German/Dutch/French?

Xaccers with that 1 I can even make it be sound worse. same job just 1 person English the other Dutch the person that takes the Dutch and English calls will be on 3k more at least then just the English person.

but then thats only in the IT sector dont know if that counts for any others

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34338106)
I fully expect to be forced to do a citizenship course due to having been away too long if I ever decide to back :Yikes:

Maar Daniel jij spreekt toch nog steeds bijna vloeiend Nederlands of niet zo 100% meer.

Anders moet je me gewoon wat PM'en ofzo en dan kan je je Nederlands bijhouden.

Tevens je weet hopelijk wel dat Oranje EK Kampioen is geworden afgelopen weekend onder 21 dat is.....

Xaccers 27-06-2007 17:29

Re: No Polish, no job
 
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Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34338107)
Xaccers with that 1 I can even make it be sound worse. same job just 1 person English the other Dutch the person that takes the Dutch and English calls will be on 3k more at least then just the English person.

but then thats only in the IT sector dont know if that counts for any others

At my last company, they tried (and failed) to expand into Europe so required German speakers, which they got 2 of.
Both (one German and lovely, one English and a lazy cow, but that's just them) were paid several grand more than non-German speakers because of their extra skills.
It's just like someone with a degree or MCSE getting paid more than someone without even though they're doing the same job.
To me, that's fine, why shouldn't someone be rewarded for the extra skills and qualifications they have?

Like I said, if the company were only employing people of one nationality, despite the language skills of any other candidates, then that would be illegal.
They're not doing that though, so what they're doing is fine, they have a requirement, the person reported wasn't able to satisfy that requirement, and so didn't get the job.


Talking of Dutch, we had a guy at uni who was doing his PhD over here. He still had his Dutch accent, but whenever he went home, fellow Dutchmen would comment on how good his Dutch was for an Englishman, not believing he was actually Dutch :D

danielf 27-06-2007 17:31

Re: No Polish, no job
 
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Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34338107)
Maar Daniel jij spreekt toch nog steeds bijna vloeiend Nederlands of niet zo 100% meer.

Anders moet je me gewoon wat PM'en ofzo en dan kan je je Nederlands bijhouden.

Nou, er kruipen af en toe wel wat Anglicismen in. Het is een beetje roestig geworden zeg maar. Gelukkig is m'n vrouw ook Nederlands, dus corrigeren we elkaar.

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Originally Posted by DocDutch
Tevens je weet hopelijk wel dat Oranje EK Kampioen is geworden afgelopen weekend onder 21 dat is.....

Voor het tweede jaar op rij zelfs. Die Foppe toch...

Xaccers 27-06-2007 17:34

Re: No Polish, no job
 
I need Faulty to translate :D

TheNorm 27-06-2007 17:39

Re: No Polish, no job
 
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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34338115)
I need Faulty to translate :D

He might be in charge of Babelfish (http://www.babelfish.altavista.com/tr)

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But Daniel you nevertheless still almost fluently Dutch or not this way speak 100% more. Differently you must me simply what PM'en can ofzo keep up themselves and then you Dutch. Nou, there crawl from time to time, however, what Anglicisms. But it a beetje has become rusty says. Fortunately my woman is also Dutch, thus we correct each other. Tevens your weet hopelijk, however, that oranje EK of champion has become last weekend under 21 that are..... For the second year on file even. Those Foppe nevertheless...

DocDutch 27-06-2007 20:07

Re: No Polish, no job
 
ermmmm norm close mate ;) I think babelfish needs to change the words around a bit then you are close to it ;)


Daniel, I hope that Marco is going to get sacked before our next couple of games and replace him with Foppe de Haan :) he's in my book an excellent coach especially since the dutch youth team was missing some key players.


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