Originally Posted by popper (Post 34327366)

no,No.NO, thats when the madness really begins, the Govt and ID cards are BAD, check out all the reasons for yourself BEFORE you get behind them, seriously, google.

they keep trying to get them through any way they can, masses of law abiding people keep trying to stop them , ask yourself why that is!

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34327369)

You're lucky you've not been slapped with a £1000 fine for not updating your driving licence!!!

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34327369)

Can someone at work not sign your passport photos (when you get one) or a family friend, there's a long list of occupations, any professional should do - even the dodgy trade unionists!!!!:monkey:

Originally Posted by popper (Post 34327366)

they keep trying to get them through any way they can, masses of law abiding people keep trying to stop them , ask yourself why that is!

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 34327353)

All I needed to open an account [with Halifax] was a couple of bills to prove my address and something to prove who I was (I think I used a letter from the tax office, and my works id card).

Originally Posted by greencreeper (Post 34327319)

Having trouble accepting a loan agreement. I need one form of ID from the provided list. I sent back a copy of my latest P60, feeling certain that I'd used a P60 before. But it was sent back. I do have a provisional photocard driving license, which I had to plead with my optician to sign. My optician, who I had known for years, died in a car crash, and the new optician didn't know me - though the receptionist did. It was her leaning on him and me looking desperate that convinced him to sign. However, the license has my old address - but address (location) is not part of my identity, surely? But the bank said that the license would not be acceptable. I sent a copy anyway, for want of something better. It was sent back this morning. So that leaves my Coding Notice from the nasty tax people. Turns out they had my address from years ago - I'm supposed to keep them informed, but no one told me. So I'm waiting for my Coding Notice to arrive, and have sent back the driving license to have the address updated. I took a look at the passport application. The fee - a whole £66 - is incredible, but what is more incredible is that I may have to provide details of my parents' nationalities, may have to attend an interview, and will have to have someone sign my photographs and provide their passport number :shocked: Who's going to do that?? Incredibly, the advice is to give your form, complete with payment, to that person, so they can complete the form and post it. So that's a form complete with all your personal details that could be used to steal your identity. Hmmm. Incredible. It's almost as if there's a conspiracy to force people to use Identity Cards.

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34327421)

Paranoia?
Tin hats to the max chaps!

Other than that, there's the more sensible reason that this government couldn't do it effectively or at a reasonable cost. So why should we have to fork out for a system which isn't as good as it could be and costs a heck of a lot more than it should do?

Originally Posted by popper (Post 34327609)

its interesting that people put money before the erosion of civil liberties http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...rties-out.html

perhaps we should also forget about all the good people that died in all the lawful wars to give the UK and its people this liberty or at least place it below the all important £ in your pocket today,hmmm.

the old saying, 'you dont miss something until its gone' ring true even today.

Originally Posted by Salu (Post 34327533)

I'm not convinced this is the real Greencreeper? Can anyone vouch for him?

:)

Originally Posted by greencreeper (Post 34327774)

I received a bank card for the previous tenant - she of several names and naughty night time activities for cash, possibly involving a parrot. It was an Abbey card, so I was concerned that she might be associated with me. I phoned my bank - refused to do anything at all without the card. It's not my account, apparently. Well yes, this I know - but you need to update your records, or at least flag that the wrong address is listed. Oh no. So I went into a branch. Same story. They took the card to destroy it but couldn't do anything. It beggars belief. An opportunity to prevent possible fraud and they're not interested :dozey: World's gone mad.