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AbyssUnderground 27-08-2009 08:48

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EliotL (Post 34859879)
Have you tried tapping with your existing phone?
This mimics pulse dialing, you just have to quickly tap the button on your phone that you use to hang up, tap once for 1, twice very quickly for 2, thrice for 3 and 10 for 0 etc... like you could try ringing the speaking clock on 123 by tapping to check if you have pulse dialing support!
I wouldn't try actually ringing someone like that as it takes ages and you have to try and tap 10 pulses per second!

I just tried this and it works :D

Also reminds me of someone saying "Whose idea was it to make the emergency services 999? It takes forever on a rotary dial phone! By the time it calls the person could be dead!"

Still, better than the IT Crowd's emergency services number... "0118 999 881 999 119 725 ... 3" :D

BenMcr 27-08-2009 09:06

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground (Post 34861916)
Also reminds me of someone saying "Whose idea was it to make the emergency services 999? It takes forever on a rotary dial phone! By the time it calls the person could be dead!"

Going to be geeky here and point out it was because of pulse dialling that 999 was chosen for the emergency number ;)

AbyssUnderground 27-08-2009 09:13

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34861930)
Going to be geeky here and point out it was because of pulse dialling that 999 was chosen for the emergency number ;)

I can see it wouldn't be too easy to accidentally dial :) It just doesn't make sense in other ways, as I explained :)

BenMcr 27-08-2009 09:28

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground (Post 34861936)
I can see it wouldn't be too easy to accidentally dial :) It just doesn't make sense in other ways, as I explained :)

Hmm - it's actually not what I originally thought it was - well not totally

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/999_(em...lephone_number)

999 was chosen because of the need for the code to be able to be dialled from A/B button public telephones. The telephone dial (GPO Dial No 11) used with these coin-boxes allowed the digit "0" to be dialled without inserting any money, and it was very easy to adapt the dial to dial "9" without inserting money.

I always though it was because 999 was least likely to be dialled by the overhead telephone lines knocking together in the wind

Ignitionnet 27-08-2009 14:16

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
Just learn to whistle the chords that tone dialling generates, job done.

AntiSilence 27-08-2009 17:09

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34862186)
Just learn to whistle the chords that tone dialling generates, job done.

Or use a DTMF generator.

Chris 27-08-2009 17:12

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EliotL (Post 34859879)
Have you tried tapping with your existing phone?
This mimics pulse dialing, you just have to quickly tap the button on your phone that you use to hang up, tap once for 1, twice very quickly for 2, thrice for 3 and 10 for 0 etc... like you could try ringing the speaking clock on 123 by tapping to check if you have pulse dialing support!
I wouldn't try actually ringing someone like that as it takes ages and you have to try and tap 10 pulses per second!

I was just about to suggest this. It was a great technique for getting round the dial lock my mate's stingy parents had on their phone many years ago. :D

AntiSilence 27-08-2009 17:31

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34862310)
I was just about to suggest this. It was a great technique for getting round the dial lock my mate's stingy parents had on their phone many years ago. :D

It also used to fool some pay phones into not asking for payment too (the ones where you dial the number first and put the money in when the other person answers)... So I'm told lol

mhl 11-12-2009 09:40

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
I have an old 300 series rotary (pulse) dial phone which has been fully restored and which I had hoped would work on my VM/NTL line - but it doesn't :( I get a dialling tone OK, but this remains there as I dial a number. Others on this thread are quite definite that it is possible to use a pulse dial phone on a modern line - so where am I missing a trick?

The old phone is very nice as an ornament/antique - but it would be even better if I could use it.

Kymmy 11-12-2009 09:45

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
@ original OP.

You've already said that the phone is rotary dial that has been converted for modern usage (i.e it will support tone dialing only) so in essence you can use it on either pulse or tone networks

---------- Post added at 10:45 ---------- Previous post was at 10:43 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhl (Post 34925025)
I have an old 300 series rotary (pulse) dial phone which has been fully restored and which I had hoped would work on my VM/NTL line - but it doesn't :( I get a dialling tone OK, but this remains there as I dial a number. Others on this thread are quite definite that it is possible to use a pulse dial phone on a modern line - so where am I missing a trick?

The old phone is very nice as an ornament/antique - but it would be even better if I could use it.

It probably would help if you give your location as a VM staff member might be able to help you better if they are about

Chris 11-12-2009 09:46

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
I'm speculating, but is the rotary dial moving at the correct speed? Can you get your hands on a basic touch-dial phone with a pulse/tone switch, and try dialling out from your line with that, set to pulse, just to confirm whether it's your line or your rotary phone that's causing the problem?

---------- Post added at 10:46 ---------- Previous post was at 10:45 ----------

@ Kymmy ... the original OP posted more than two years ago, he's probably not listening to you ;)

Kymmy 11-12-2009 09:48

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
@ Chris

Your fault for not prodding me with that stick to wake me up!!!

Actually busy doing 4 things at one, really should learn to do the 5th thing like reading original dates :)

Chris 11-12-2009 09:49

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
Your fault for swigging cask-strength Aberlour from the bottle, with or without the help of cheap Lidl cola ... ;)

Kymmy 11-12-2009 09:50

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
Oi!!! that was a private conversation!!! No fair telling people that I drink cheap Lidl cola!!!

Gonna get you for that!!!

;)

mhl 11-12-2009 11:03

Re: Pulse dialing query
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34925033)
I'm speculating, but is the rotary dial moving at the correct speed? Can you get your hands on a basic touch-dial phone with a pulse/tone switch, and try dialling out from your line with that, set to pulse, just to confirm whether it's your line or your rotary phone that's causing the problem?



Chris - I have run this test with an old tone/pulse switchable phone and the pulse dialling works OK. I have also confirmed with VM/NTL tech staff that their lines do support pulse. I have tried the old rotary phone on a neighbour's BT line and it worked perfectly. So I tried again on my NTL line and found that, if I drag the dial back rather than letting it return by itself, it will dial out. So it looks like a problem with the dial return speed as you suggested - NTL line would appear to require it to be a tad quicker.


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