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Dan_Sette 21-04-2007 13:50

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
OK. Let's get to the nub of this. Putting aside morals or what you believe to be right or wrong.

Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router. Perhaps the word "hijack" gives us a clue here?

However, the official word is:-

Yes. Not only is it wrong, it is illegal. Following several arrests, the police say if you tap into someone elses equipment without thier knowledge you are commiting an offence by dishonestly obtaining electronic communications services with intent to avoid payment

papa smurf 21-04-2007 13:55

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
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Originally Posted by Dan_Sette (Post 34281008)
OK. Let's get to the nub of this. Putting aside morals or what you believe to be right or wrong.

Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router. Perhaps the word "hijack" gives us a clue here?

However, the official word is:-

Yes. Not only is it wrong, it is illegal. Following several arrests, the police say if you tap into someone elses equipment without thier knowledge you are commiting an offence by dishonestly obtaining electronic communications services with intent to avoid payment

just out of interesst how exactly do you police it

wwe 21-04-2007 14:02

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
i think its ok i got a router and i not puted a password on

superbiatch 21-04-2007 14:06

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
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Originally Posted by wwe (Post 34281026)
i think its ok i got a router and i not puted a password on

Which means you're wide open to hacking :erm:

wwe 21-04-2007 14:07

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
how do u put a password on

Gareth 21-04-2007 14:09

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
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Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 34281037)
Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe
i think its ok i got a router and i not puted a password on

Which means you're wide open to hacking :erm:

Which means that you are responsible when your connection has been determined to have downloaded something illegal like child porn, stolen credit card numbers, etc...

JohnHorb 21-04-2007 14:09

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
Exactly. It's all very noble leaving your router open so others can use it, but it means they are on YOUR network - hope your computer(s) are well protected.

Someone managed to hack into my router this morning, even though it was WEP protected, and disable the admin password AND all security! Luckily I was online when they did it and able to take immediate action.

superbiatch 21-04-2007 14:09

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
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Originally Posted by wwe (Post 34281038)
how do u put a password on

I'm no expert (a friend usually does stuff like this for me) but i'm sure your wireless router should have instructions to follow, and search this site for helpful advice. Otherwise, i'm pretty sure anyone can hack any personal info (including credit cards numbers and bank details) and use them.

Gareth 21-04-2007 14:12

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34280940)
so if your neighbour broadcasts radio signals into your property ,why shouldn't you use them'he/she didn't seek your permision to fill your airspace with there radio waves..... pluss if its not encrypted shurly there not that bothered:)

I'm gonna assume by the smiley at the end of your post that this was in jest.

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Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 34281046)
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Originally Posted by wwe
how do u put a password on

I'm no expert (a friend usually does stuff like this for me) but i'm sure your wireless router should have instructions to follow, and search this site for helpful advice. Otherwise, i'm pretty sure anyone can hack any personal info (including credit cards numbers and bank details) and use them.

Yep, just read the manual - especially the section on using encryption. If you've not got the manual any more, you'll be able to download it from t'internet.

FWIW, use WPA rather than WEP, if your Wireless NIC supports it.

JohnHorb 21-04-2007 14:14

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
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Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34281048)
FWIW, use WPA over WEP, if your Wireless NIC supports it.

Hear, hear. I didn't think it was that important - till this morning. Probably a good idea to hide - 'not broadcast' - your SSID too.

superbiatch 21-04-2007 14:15

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
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Originally Posted by JohnHorb (Post 34281054)
Hear, hear. I didn't think it was that important - till this morning. Probably a good idea to hide - 'not broadcast' - your SSID too.

You were lucky there hun, good job you were online :tu:

wwe 21-04-2007 14:16

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
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Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34281048)
I'm gonna assume by the smiley at the end of your post that this was in jest.

---------- Post added at 14:12 ---------- Previous post was at 14:10 ----------

Yep, just read the manual - especially the section on using encryption. If you've not got the manual any more, you'll be able to download it from t'internet.

FWIW, use WPA rather than WEP, if your Wireless NIC supports it.

when i put a password on will i still be able 2 use my ps3 and psp wirles

Gareth 21-04-2007 14:25

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
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Originally Posted by JohnHorb (Post 34281054)
Hear, hear. I didn't think it was that important - till this morning. Probably a good idea to hide - 'not broadcast' - your SSID too.

Yeah, there are pros and cons about this... hiding it only really hides it on the Access Point beaconing, and it's still broadcast with other traffic. However, it does stop the casual neighbourly hacking that takes place. On the other hand, if you can't see your neighbours SSID, you're not gonna be aware that he's even got a WLAN configured (unless you know what tools to use) and could be wondering why you're having problems with your connection being unstable if you're sharing the same channel.

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Originally Posted by wwe (Post 34281059)
when i put a password on will i still be able 2 use my ps3 and psp wirles

Provided you enter the same passphrase on your other devices as you configure on the router, then it'll work. Just check that all devices are compatible with the same type of encryption.

Tezcatlipoca 21-04-2007 14:28

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
Yep.

The PS3 & PSP both support WEP & WPA encryption.


Use WPA - it's much stronger than WEP.

Also change the router's admin password if you haven't already (don't want anyone logging onto the router & messing with things).

And if your router supports it, turn on MAC filtering (may be something like "Wireless station access control") & add the MAC addresses of the PC & PS3 & PSP to its whitelist.

As said, have a look for the manual.

dragon 21-04-2007 16:10

Re: Is it wrong to hijack your neighbours router?
 
Its illegal to use someone ones else's network without their permission.

That said providing you don't sit outside their house with your laptop they probably won't notice :p:


I may have borrowed some ones wi-fi before while i was waiting to get my broadband :angel:


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