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Maggy 04-05-2005 09:29

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I've already got an excellent spam filter wot I paid for so I don't really need any help from NTL.However I guess that anything that speeds up the system has to be a good idea but as long as it can recognise true spam from ordinary mail.If not I can see having to make a decision whether to stop using my ntl addy.I only use it for joining sites and online ordering as it is.

Nidge 05-05-2005 16:49

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Originally Posted by Paul M
Someone must like you then :p: I don't even 100 e-mails in total a day :erm:

I got 45 this morning and I've had another 40 this afternoon.

Lone Star 05-05-2005 17:16

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Originally Posted by Nidge
I got 45 this morning and I've had another 40 this afternoon.

My daughter's account gets similar levels of spam, and there has been little change in the numbers since NTL's "filtering" was introduced - less than impressive!

Nidge 06-05-2005 07:06

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Originally Posted by Lone Star
My daughter's account gets similar levels of spam, and there has been little change in the numbers since NTL's "filtering" was introduced - less than impressive!

I think NTL have left it to long to implement a spam filter.

Neilm 06-05-2005 07:38

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My experiences withy NTL's spam filters are the opposite to what's intended- my office system uses BT Openworld and I sometimes send emails to people with NTL mail addresses. On at least 3 occasiones recently, my messges have been bounced back to me after 7 days with the "Undeliverable" message- presumably something to do with spam blocking algorithms? Resending via a different "Authorised" account sees the messges getting through OK.

Nidge 06-05-2005 08:14

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Originally Posted by Neilm
My experiences withy NTL's spam filters are the opposite to what's intended- my office system uses BT Openworld and I sometimes send emails to people with NTL mail addresses. On at least 3 occasiones recently, my messges have been bounced back to me after 7 days with the "Undeliverable" message- presumably something to do with spam blocking algorithms? Resending via a different "Authorised" account sees the messges getting through OK.

Have BT got a decent spam filter??
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Originally Posted by Neilm
My experiences withy NTL's spam filters are the opposite to what's intended- my office system uses BT Openworld and I sometimes send emails to people with NTL mail addresses. On at least 3 occasiones recently, my messges have been bounced back to me after 7 days with the "Undeliverable" message- presumably something to do with spam blocking algorithms? Resending via a different "Authorised" account sees the messges getting through OK.

I'm currently paying for a spam filter it costs me £5 per month to me it's well worth it.

Stephen 06-05-2005 09:01

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I get at least 10 spam a day to my ntl email, they are all pretty similar as well. gets rather annoying.

Toto 06-05-2005 09:29

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Originally Posted by Nidge
Have BT got a decent spam filter??
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Yes, they use Brightmail, the same system ntl will be using a few months from now if the news items are to be believed.

Neilm 06-05-2005 09:29

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Originally Posted by Nidge
Have BT got a decent spam filter??
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I'm currently paying for a spam filter it costs me £5 per month to me it's well worth it.

BT have some spam filtring, but I don't think they filter outgoing messages.

For incoming mail, I now use Spamarrest, which is brilliant, but takes a little setting up. Cost about £20 per year, but can poll up to 3 POP3 email accounts.

simbr 06-05-2005 09:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neilm
My experiences withy NTL's spam filters are the opposite to what's intended- my office system uses BT Openworld and I sometimes send emails to people with NTL mail addresses. On at least 3 occasiones recently, my messges have been bounced back to me after 7 days with the "Undeliverable" message- presumably something to do with spam blocking algorithms? Resending via a different "Authorised" account sees the messges getting through OK.

What was the actual error message?

fishyweb 06-05-2005 11:15

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I am getting 100+ spam emails per day. I would have thought that most of these could be detected by any half-decent spam filter. MailWasher (on my PC) identifies the majority of these as spam, so why the hell can't NTL's system (which they presumably paid a hefty amount of money for) do at least as good a job?

Toto 06-05-2005 12:47

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Originally Posted by fishyweb
I am getting 100+ spam emails per day. I would have thought that most of these could be detected by any half-decent spam filter. MailWasher (on my PC) identifies the majority of these as spam, so why the hell can't NTL's system (which they presumably paid a hefty amount of money for) do at least as good a job?

Not as straight forward as the basic algorythms that Mailwasher uses, keeping in mind that its corporate solution simply couldn't handle to 20M+ messages that ntl blocks every day.

ntl will introduce Brightmail into its platform in the coming months. If you read the latest news articly on this forums front page, you should get a better idea of what ntl has done, and will do soon :)

Neilm 06-05-2005 13:38

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Originally Posted by simbr
What was the actual error message?

Sorry- can't remember now, and have deleted/purged them.

Stuart 06-05-2005 13:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fishyweb
I am getting 100+ spam emails per day. I would have thought that most of these could be detected by any half-decent spam filter. MailWasher (on my PC) identifies the majority of these as spam, so why the hell can't NTL's system (which they presumably paid a hefty amount of money for) do at least as good a job?

I believe that NTL's anti spam system is currently still "learning" how to identify spam (basically, it's in a mode where it analyses mail to look for possible spam identifiers - known IPs spam is sent from, bulk mailing etc), so, at the moment, is not identifying as much spam as it will do.

Nidge 07-05-2005 09:38

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They must like me then because I've had 103 spam mails to my server this morning. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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