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Next they will be encouraging you to download. ;)

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Not me...

I will not be tempted...

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IF this ever happens it will certainly not be THIS year so it is pointless to even get excited by it all.

When I see things like this I think OOOOO GREAT!!!

But it takes an eterntiy to appear.

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How fast can they get the existing infrastructure to run? They wil have to upgrade again to compete with 8mb from bt by autumn.

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BT haven't even started the 8Mb trials yet and if they are successful less than half their customers will be able to get 8Mbps and those that can will find it could drop to 2Mbps at peak times.

Who knows what NTL will be offering in 6 months time? Six months ago would you have thought that NTL would have a 3Mbps tier up and running by now.

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You love talking about DOCSIS standards both here and on ADSLGuide but don't seem to have followed my advice and actually read the standards. DOCSIS 2 is only relevant to increasing upstream capacity and offers no gains on downstream. DOCSIS 3 kit doesn't exist yet and isn't going to for a while so not really relevant.

Chances of ntl using unstandardised kit are zero, the standards are vitally important.

There's also a lot more to upgrades to DOCSIS 2 than just updating a line card.

Thread as a whole does it say that this will be used instead of the coax network? Anyone who thinks ntl are going to dump the 500+ uBR coax network, not likely :)

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hmmm... this is NTL, i wouldn't be surprised if it was 500mb per month...

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Especially after having spent tens of millions of pounds upgrading said 500+ uBR coax network..

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Even more so when the ubrs are £13,000 each (£65,00 0,000)

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this is actually quite cunning. for high speeds the BT network is mostly out of reach compared to the NTL network by the stats on that report.

NTL have the upper hand in the current cable modem technology compared to current ADSL but they also have the upper hand in ADSL potential because they are in reach of almost all subscribers for high speeds.

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Tad more than that, and the sum you did is for 5000 uBRs, not 500.

Line cards are the most expensive bit, that and NPE card, which is 7k or so on its' own without the 4 line cards costing similar or the chassis, etc.

Re: 18mbps
 

Could NTL's exchanges support ADSL/ADSL2?

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NTL have spent a fortune on the network and will have to continue spending to ensure that they stay competitive. They cannot just stop spending because something better is coming at some time in the future.

NTL need the coax network at this point in time and for some unknown period in the future. There may come a time in the future where it is not economical to retain the coax network.

One possible scenario is that the coax network is used to provide only core HDTV channels and a limited internet service via your television. Other TV channels, telephony and internet may all be provided via IP using ADSL2+ or VDSL2.

I would imagine that NTL are not going to divulge much until they are near to having a new delivery method working. How soon that may be is anyone guess but one thing is for sure. Cable companies are in a much better position to go forward than BT and unbundled ADSL providers.

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:LOL:

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The trials were mentioned in the Q4 results yesterday.

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They also mention HDTV