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kronas 20-04-2004 20:25

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
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Originally Posted by Defiant
Perhaps he's got onboard GFX. ATI and Nvidia gtu fix these problems

what problems :confused:

no its a GEFORCE TI 4600 graphics card

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Originally Posted by downquark1
What size is your pagefile? You can see it on the performance panel on ctrl+alt+del

after boot mine is about 95-102 mb

i think mines about 130 (on boot) its at about 356 right now in about 4 days of uptime programs have been/still are running.........

downquark1 20-04-2004 20:35

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
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Originally Posted by kronas
i think mines about 130 (on boot) its at about 356 right now in about 4 days of uptime programs have been/still are running.........

I would you thought it would be smaller than mine, how many processes are running?


I dpn't know much about this, just what doesn't fit in RAM goes into the swapfile, does anyone know anything about the 'conservative swapfile' tweak?

kronas 20-04-2004 20:37

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
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Originally Posted by downquark1
how many processes are running?

about 33 currently.

TheBlueRaja 20-04-2004 20:41

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
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Originally Posted by downquark1
I dpn't know much about this, just what doesn't fit in RAM goes into the swapfile, does anyone know anything about the 'conservative swapfile' tweak?

You should let Windows handle your swapfile, if you run out of Physical RAM then windows allocates memory within your Pagefile on your harddisk. Therefore effectively using your Hard disk as a memory module, the problem with this is that its very slow by comparision to real physical memory.

The pagefile is an actual file on your C:\ Drive called pagefile.sys (its hidden).

The conservative swapfile tweak forces programs to use all available RAM before using the pagefile. Unfortunately, this has the problem of every program trying to grab as much RAM as it needs. Some programs will use the pagefile over the RAM as its not critical that they get information stored really quickly, unlike realtime apps like games which need everything now, saving your fast memory for applications that need it.

Hope that helps.

downquark1 20-04-2004 20:44

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
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Originally Posted by kronas
about 33 currently.

If you can cut down the ones you don't need it could save RAM.

These may help
Windows XP services guide
Unusual services
Explanation of common task list programs

kronas 20-04-2004 20:48

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1
If you can cut down the ones you don't need it could save RAM.

These may help
Windows XP services guide
Unusual services
Explanation of common task list programs


ill have a look, but i only have essential services as well as norton running at start up, but the rest obviously increases because of IE java programs etc

Defiant 20-04-2004 20:49

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
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Originally Posted by kronas
what problems :confused:
i think mines about 130 (on boot) its at about 356 right now in about 4 days of uptime programs have been/still are running.........

Thats about right and I've lost count how many times I've reimaged my machine with XP PRO. Its one hungry beast which is why I said 256 min.

The problem was when XP came out allot of the PC spec were for windows me so here's XP on a machine with 128MB of ram :rolleyes:

PS anyone with that kinda spec I'd go for Windows 200. Its the same engine but doesn't wont as much resource's ;)

kronas 20-04-2004 20:51

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
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Originally Posted by Defiant
Thats about right and I've lost count how many times I've reimaged my machine with XP PRO. Its one hungry beast which is why I said 256 min

me and downquark 1 were talking about pagefiles not physical ram sizes :erm:

Defiant 20-04-2004 20:52

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
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Originally Posted by kronas
me and downquark 1 were talking about pagefiles not physical ram sizes :erm:

Yes I know I've been in the business a long time. Do you think I dont check my page file :erm:

aliferste 20-04-2004 21:54

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
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Originally Posted by Defiant
This may be a good time too ask. I have two 256 MB ram, cards but wont 1024MB. Now if I buy new I dont wont to through away the old ones. Do any of these shops do a swap so to speak because I only have 2 DDR slots

You could try selling them on ebay !
:)

Millay 20-04-2004 22:48

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
Thers a simple rule of thumb with RAM.. you will never have enough...

:)

Semi On 20-04-2004 23:58

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
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Originally Posted by Millay
Thers a simple rule of thumb with RAM.. you will never have enough...

:)

If money were no object... :D

I think 1 - 1.5GB is more than enough for most people. Unless you do high-end stuff, like working with 500MB Photoshop files or something.

SMHarman 21-04-2004 10:39

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
The Dell laptop I just bought was shipped with a doddgey memory module. Worked fine a lot of the time, until memory usage went past about 300Mb. It was a single 512 card. Then it would BSOD! New RAM is being sent to me today by courier so can't really complain about the after sales.

Ironically the Laptop is from Dell outlet. I bet the reason it was originally returned is the same as the one I am seeing now.

"We test all outlet PCs thouroughly before they are sold" yeah right. Their own RAM test on their diagnostics found this one.

Address FFFFFFFFh or something that far up.

zoombini 21-04-2004 12:26

Re: Here's how you know if you need more Mem (XP)
 
You do not need ans extra programs to tell you that you need more RAM.

All you need to do is have any Microsoft product installed on your PC & you are then in need of as much more RAM as you can afford/fit.

Take "Windows" as an example... :D


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