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Originally Posted by Jerrek

Yep--are you saying you wouldn't care?

No of course not. The point I am making (and I admit it is a generalisation) is that a large section of the US are very "insular" which is a polite way of saying ignorant.

I would bet that a very very large amount of them never new who Al-Qaeda were or that their foreign embassys had been attacked by this group.

I would expect that many don't know much about Israel/Palestine. Or about the USAs foreign policy.

You say it is because they don't care, well they should care. They are residents in the only superpower in the world the actions of their country has a massive impact on the world. But too many watch channels like fox and believe the propaganda.

I was wathing the news last night and a reporter was asking people in New York if they think America should now pull of of Iraq. One guy said "I think we finish the job but we were right to after Iraq after what they did to us on Sept 11" !!!! and thats in New York, god knows what Middle America believes is going on.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

No of course not. The point I am making (and I admit it is a generalisation) is that a large section of the US are very "insular" which is a polite way of saying ignorant.

And so are you. Who is the president of Tajikistan? Which party is the ruling party in Bolivia? What sort of political system does Fiji have?

You have a tiny island to keep track of. I have 18 million square kilometers and over 320,000,000 people, in 50 states, 13 provinces and territories, and over 4,000 counties to keep track of. To me, what happens to Quebec is comparing what happens in France is to you.

So, don't lecture me on ignorance, unless you can claim you know everything in the world.

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

A bit touchy aren't you. I realise the vastness of the USA and Canada is partly to do with it. But it's no excuse.

We may be tiny island and maybe the advantage of being tiny island is to appreciate our place in the world.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Who is the president of Tajikistan? Which party is the ruling party in Bolivia? What sort of political system does Fiji have?

Without Google!

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

Who is the president of Tajikistan? Which party is the ruling party in Bolivia? What sort of political system does Fiji have?

As far as I am aware there are no wars, civil or otherwise, Coup de gras, major world sporting event, terrorist activity or anything news worthy on the world stage happening in those countries at the moment.

But you can be sure that when there is the more Globally aware BBC will report it and I will know about it.

Could the same be said for the US? How many times does Chechnya make the six o'clock news over there?

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Originally Posted by Pierre

So they're just ... unimportant?

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

So they're just ... unimportant

I'm sure they're very important. There just isn't anything newsworthy at global level happening there at the moment.

And when there is I am confident it will appear on my TV Screen, How confident are you that it would appear on yours?

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I'm sure they're very important. There just isn't anything newsworthy at global level happening there at the moment.

So? That is an opinion, and like all else, it is relative. What you consider important isn't necessarily what we consider important.

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And when there is I am confident it will appear on my TV Screen, How confident are you that it would appear on yours?

Very, if it is newsworthy.

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

So? That is an opinion, and like all else, it is relative. What you consider important isn't necessarily what we consider important.

I wouldn't argue with that, which brings me back to the my first point that if it doesn't hapen in America or if America aren't involved then it probably isn't newsworthy.

And when something outside of the US that you are involved in like Iraq the way it's reported over there you'd think you were doing it all by yourselves.

I wonder how many people over there know just how many countries actually have troops in Iraq at the moment?

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Originally Posted by abailey152

No, WE had a government sponsored whitewash. Although the BBC's report was not proven (and this is why the BBC were wrong to broadcast it), many believe there was some truth in it. Afterall, WHERE ARE THE WMD's? The CIA have had their top WMD expert scouring Iraq for them. What has he found? NOTHING!

At least the BBC have had the decency to show some concern for the dead in Iraq. What about Fox? They are just screaming how the Americans have done well and how George W Bush is saving the world by invading Iraq. No mention of all the lives that have been lost (650 Americans amongst them). What about these lives? What has been achieved? Absolutely nothing, except sending a country into chaos. The REAL enemy is still out there....look at the recent events in Spain!

Don't even attempt to put Fox up against the BBC when discussing fairness and impartiality. Any of the mainstream U.S. TV channels could be used for comparison but not the flag waving moronic propaganda outlet for the U.S. Republican party.

well said, totally agree. :tu:

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Fox caters to the part, a very large part, of America that are not interested in anything outside of America or anything that does not involve America, because they do think (and in cases are probably right)that the world revolves around them.

and that provokes the age old debate, ignorance in americans :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Pierre

The Brits and Europeans in general have much broader knowledge and understanding of world issues.

i agree thats true......

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

Hmm, lets see.

1. "We" should be capitalized.
2. "American" should be capitalized.
3. "There" is a demonstrative pronoun. You want the reflexive pronoun "their."
4. Your sentence should end with a period.

so you resort to insults and petty pointers?, mr american/canadian........oops your american today :D :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Pierre

No of course not. The point I am making (and I admit it is a generalisation) is that a large section of the US are very "insular" which is a polite way of saying ignorant.

sorry im blunt i just said that. :D

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Originally Posted by Pierre

You say it is because they don't care, well they should care. They are residents in the only superpower in the world the actions of their country has a massive impact on the world. But too many watch channels like fox and believe the propaganda.

yes and bring 9/11 up as something to create polices for, more excuses for the US government to tighten up security.....i mean spying :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I was wathing the news last night and a reporter was asking people in New York if they think America should now pull of of Iraq. One guy said "I think we finish the job but we were right to after Iraq after what they did to us on Sept 11" !!!! and thats in New York, god knows what Middle America believes is going on.

yes lets destroy a nation, because the perpatraitors are from a specific country :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I wouldn't argue with that, which brings me back to the my first point that if it doesn't hapen in America or if America aren't involved then it probably isn't newsworthy.

So? Are we not allowed to have that opinion?

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And when something outside of the US that you are involved in like Iraq the way it's reported over there you'd think you were doing it all by yourselves.

I thought this was unilateral action...

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I wonder how many people over there know just how many countries actually have troops in Iraq at the moment?

If you listen to the BBC, who loudly proclaims the unilateral action, you'd figure only America...

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Originally Posted by kronas

so you resort to insults and petty pointers?, mr american/canadian........oops your american today :D :rofl:

Absolutely. If you're going to insult someone because you think they're ignorant, you should at least demonstrate that you're not completely ignorant of basic English spelling and grammar.

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

Absolutely. If you're going to insult someone because you think they're ignorant, you should at least demonstrate that you're not completely ignorant of basic English spelling and grammar.

insult who, i have used grammer and spelling, i use it when i please, infact sometimes its not worth it for to me to use it, alot of people not just me believe america is full of itself, not because of jealousy, but because of the way the media and people (the general public) portray themselves, what about all the headlines when saddam was caught 'we did it' not quite, it was the rebels in the country that found him.............

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In the opinion of Al Franken, a fox news jounalist lied about John Kerry: here

I've bee watching fox news web clips for months now, and I've only heard one criticism of Bush on the grapevine, and billy o'reilly admitted that he agrees with democrat clean air proposals. That's it.

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You obviously don't watch O'Reilly enough. He critisizes Bush at least once every second or third show.