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Stuartbe

05-03-2004 12:54

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by snodvan

Good thread this one but my head is going round and round with all the acronyms and funny terminology. Remember - I qualify for a bus pass ie bit long in the tooth. I am technically somewhere around Post 10 from Debsy but with no real objection to having the main machine switched on as well as a laptop.

What I have is a 2Ghz main machine now fitted with a Belkin 802.11b card+mini ariel (presume that is OK) and a 3GHz laptop with an 11Mbit/s wireless LAN card also 802.11b. Both on XP Home. I have loaded the software that came with the Belkin thing and now have a screen icon, and the software for the laptop was already loaded when purchased. SOMEHOW I have now to get these things to talk to each other. Any clues folks? We will takle all this security stuff (sounds heavy but is clearly important) once I have the laptop through to the web.

Part of that contact is clearly going to be setting up IE and Outlook with all the appropriate connection settings. I remember doing that ages ago but no longer remember what I did - and anyway there was someone by my shoulder giving propmpts. I am going to need help again.

Do you have a router on this setup or are you going to use the pc for setup.......

P.S. App. for the abr. for all the tech. stuff. I wont do it again :D

If I get to techy just tell me to shut it and speak english :)

snodvan

05-03-2004 13:05

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by stuartbe

Stu
No I do not have a router. I have no objection to buying one (=quick trip to PC World) but would not be sure what to buy other than to stay with Belkin because that is the card type I have in the main machine. Looking at PCW site there seem to be all sorts of different types varying from ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£75-120. Guy in PCW was useless when I asked for advice - he clearly knew less than me.
Most of the router seem to be of a type 54g - which I know is faster but which I presume is still compatible with my 11b system.

I kept away from a wireless router so far because I have another pC linked to the main PC using wire/ internet sharing connection. That works fine and I do not want to disturb it. Having that system I must anyway have the main machine 'on' for the second tower to access the net. That is FINE because it means I can control access to the net by "younger" members of the household.

Cheers

smurph

05-03-2004 13:09

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

Stuartbe - you are a gem - two queries at once!!

EDIT - OK I have found the solution, for anyone else looking for MAC address filtering info for Linksys routers go see

Linksys knowledge base - MAC filtering

Thanks again

Proppinupthebar

05-03-2004 13:22

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by snodvan

You'll have to set the cards up in Point to point mode, and bridge on the PC. The laptop will access the t'internet via the networked PC.

A wireless AP would mean the laptop would be accessing the t'internet directly and not via the PC.

snodvan

05-03-2004 13:35

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

PCW site indictes BELKIN 54g F5D7230UK4 as 'backward compatible' to 11b systems so that is OK. Any comments? I am sure that with some hunting I would be able to get it for less than the ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£99.99 that PCW are asking - but I will charge it to the business anyway because the laptop really is for business use.

Proppinupthebar

05-03-2004 13:41

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by snodvan

I've got a Belkin 54g Ap, I use it with 2 11b laptops (Centrino and a linksys USB card) and one Belkin 11g card in a laptop, they all work fine for me.

I like Belkin stuff but others here have said they have had problems.

Stuartbe

05-03-2004 14:08

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

I have never had any problems with my Belkin WAP....

If the internet connection is working then leave it be - as they say " if it aint broke then dont fix it ! ".......

You may find it easier to buy a small hub and an access point..... Connect the cable that runs to the second tower to the hub and then connect the second pc to the hub. The access point can connect to. If you use a 4 port hub then you will have one free. This will allow you to monitor any outgoing internet activity from the first (gateway) computer at any time.

HTH

dilli-theclaw

05-03-2004 14:20

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Proppinupthebar

My belkin laptop card didn't work properly for about 3 times I rebooted my laptop but it's been ok since then :shrug:

Mind you it didn't help that they put the wrong cd in the box - still it was pretty easy to get hold of the right drivers.

Marge

31-03-2004 22:22

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

Well. it's me with a wireless problem again :rolleyes:

I have just supplied bb31 with a new laptop identical to mine and she needs to go wireless too. She currently has conx via usb with Pipex, any ideas what she needs to buy. I have a Linksys Etherfast Wireless Ap - +cable/dsl Router/4port Switch link here and a wireless card, would she able to connect with the same??

Any help appreciated cos we are just a pair of Gormless Harrys :shrug: :rolleyes:

Proppinupthebar

31-03-2004 22:25

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

You can get ADSL router/wireless AP all in one. However go for what you know, it will be easier for you to get setup again.

Stuartbe

01-04-2004 08:13

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Debsy42

This will do the job nicely for you m8 - http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...%2Etworking%2F

SMHarman

01-04-2004 09:31

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Debsy42

I would get the G version of that hardware - gives a faster connection, about ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£15 more.

EDIT - But that is Ether only.

Perhaps WAG54G

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=59951

Ebuyer Quickfind code 59951 ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£87. 9 ***** comments.

SMHarman

01-04-2004 09:38

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

I've recently ordered a Dell laptop from their outlet store. It comes with an 11a mini PCI centrino card. How easy is it to update the internal PCI for their g version? Should I do this or get a PCIMCIA card?

The former would be the more elegant solution, though more fiddley.

I'm going to see how the thing performs on a before we look to upgrade it though.

Marge

01-04-2004 09:50

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

Thanks chaps :tu: Stu, looks like you might be hearing from me again :D :D :D

Stuartbe

01-04-2004 09:50

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Debsy42

Thanks chaps :tu: Stu, looks like you might be hearing from me again :D :D :D

NP :)

Calls to the stuartbe helpline cost ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20.00 per minute at all times :D

zovat

01-04-2004 09:54

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Debsy42

Just to clarify what has already been stated...

If bb31 is on pipex, then she will need to get a modem/router/WAP such as the one suggested by stuartbe or SMHarman...

I helped a mate set up the linksys G version of this and we got the whole lot running in about 20 minutes :D

<edit> damn - thread was updated while I was checking the specs of the linksys modem...

Marge

01-04-2004 09:56

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Stuartbe

NP :)

Calls to the stuartbe helpline cost ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20.00 per minute at all times :D

:erm: :erm: well, i hope we get our monies worth ;)

Stuartbe

01-04-2004 10:02

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Debsy42

:erm: :erm: well, i hope we get our monies worth ;)

:LOL: Dont worry debs - there is no charge for you :)

Stuart

01-04-2004 11:22

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Stuartbe

NP :)

Calls to the stuartbe helpline cost ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20.00 per minute at all times :D

So, you number begins with 09? :D

Stuartbe

01-04-2004 11:35

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by scastle

So, you number begins with 09? :D

Yep... :D

The budget was a bit tight at the time so I have an extention line from saucy sussie's saucy chat line. Just ask for me when you call her :D

SMHarman

01-04-2004 12:01

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by scastle

So, you number begins with 09? :D

It comes with a free dialer install so your PC automatically dials the StuartBe helpline!

Marge

15-04-2004 12:22

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

Oh dear, me again :erm:

Have today swopped over to a Cable Modem connection which I have installed and got my wireless connection working on too (had to pick myself up off the floor in shock :eek: )

What I want to do is share some files on my laptop with my tower but no idea how to set up a file share, any brainy people who can point me in the right direction please.......

Stuartbe, where are you chuck..............

Stuartbe

15-04-2004 12:43

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

What version of windows are both machines running ?

The way shares are set up is slightly different for different windows versions.

rdhw	15-04-2004 12:51

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Debsy42

What I want to do is share some files on my laptop with my tower but no idea how to set up a file share

See http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/...w+To+-+General.

Marge

15-04-2004 13:01

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Stuartbe

What version of windows are both machines running ?

The way shares are set up is slightly different for different windows versions.

Both are on XP Pro, I'll check out the link RDHW has kindly given

Thanks

snodvan

15-04-2004 13:51

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Debsy42

Both are on XP Pro, I'll check out the link RDHW has kindly given

Thanks

I left Stu with the same sort of query a couple of weeks ago - but have not 'bothered' him since 'cos I think he has been a bit busy "moving things" / Mod-ing and juggling balls. Don't worry Stu, I will get back to you some evening when you are live on the forum. Think I will go to read the link given by rdhw

Marge

15-04-2004 14:06

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

I'm struggling here :rolleyes: Time for a brew and a think, why are things so complicated.......

Stuartbe

15-04-2004 14:14

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

Snodvan And Debsy !!

Snodvan - I have not forgoten you m8... I am still waiting for the phone line to be connected and I will be able to have a chat on the phone and get you sorted out.

Debs - Whats the matter sweatheart :D tell uncle stuartbe about it :)

Stuart

15-04-2004 14:24

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Debsy42

I'm struggling here :rolleyes: Time for a brew and a think, why are things so complicated.......

I am running a corporate install of XP here, so can't check if this is right, but it should be.

According to Microsoft, you should:

1) Right-click the shared folder or drive, and then click Properties.
2) On the Sharing tab, click Share this folder on the network.
3) Set any other options that you want, and then click OK.

snodvan

15-04-2004 14:34

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debsy42

I'm struggling here :rolleyes: Time for a brew and a think, why are things so complicated.......

Don't forget the Jaffa cakes - they HELP! :)

Marge

15-04-2004 14:40

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

I have done all the sharing on the tower but can't see them on my laptop, I'll got loads of music I want to listen to :cry:

Stuartbe

15-04-2004 14:44

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

Is the tower running any kind of firewall ?

Do both the tower and the laptop have the same workgroup name ?

Neil	15-04-2004 14:48

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by scastle

I am running a corporate install of XP here

Naughty naughty....:nono: ;)

Marge

15-04-2004 15:04

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Stuartbe

Is the tower running any kind of firewall ?

Do both the tower and the laptop have the same workgroup name ?

Both are running Zone Alarm but have turned them both off and have same workgroup name :shrug:

erol	15-04-2004 15:06

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Debsy42

Both are running Zone Alarm but have turned them both off and have same workgroup name :shrug:

can you ping from one machine to the other (try both ways) ?

can you search for one machine from the other (using win xp search for computer function) ?

Stuartbe

15-04-2004 15:06

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

Even when you turn zone alarm off it can interfere. Set both sliders to minimum on both computers and give it another try.

What can you see in " my network places " ?

Marge

15-04-2004 15:10

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY

Don't know what has happened in the meantime but it's now working, can see all my stuff

Thanks Stu, you're a darling

Stuartbe

15-04-2004 15:11

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NP :)

Glads its working for you.... Now to sort out Snodvan.

Stuart

15-04-2004 15:13

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Neil

Naughty naughty....:nono: ;)

Well, I am at work... It's their corporate install.

Marge

15-04-2004 15:15

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by scastle

Well, I am at work... It's their corporate install.

and here's me hoping you're a naughty boy ;)

Stuartbe

15-04-2004 15:15

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

I am a naughty boy :naughty:

Stuart

15-04-2004 15:18

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Debsy42

and here's me hoping you're a naughty boy ;)

I am a naughty boy.. Just happen to be using a legal copy of XP....

erol	15-04-2004 15:19

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

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Originally Posted by Debsy42

YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY

Don't know what has happened in the meantime but it's now working, can see all my stuff

Thanks Stu, you're a darling

It takes windows a while (sometimes several minutes) to 'see' other computers on the network and update its network neighbourhood links etc. You can usaly force this by searching for the machine by its name, or just wait a bit and see if it appears. I suspect thgis is what happened here.

Marge

15-04-2004 15:33

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

Cos I'm not sure of what I'm doing it's more difficult clicking on this, that and the other :rolleyes: Anyhow have got all my music and pictures now :tu: Once again cheers to the lads (and naughty boys)

snodvan

15-04-2004 16:17

Re: Help with Wireless Connection needed

Glad youi have it sorted Debsy. Personally I always find it just a bit worrying when things suddenly go right - and you have no idea what you did to make it go right. Perhaps there are "good" Gremlins inside machines, as well as the bad sort thet scew up your best intentions. :)

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