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:LOL:

I stand corrected

Still 40 gig is very low for some of us. ;) as you well know MR Henry

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Yes, that's MR Henry to you :p:

Agreed, for some people 40GB/month isn't a viable product. A higher priced unlimited tier would be good but *shrug*

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you have forgot, according to some ISP's we need super fast connections for web browsing and downloading emails, pretty much thats it :rolleyes:

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To reply to james henrys point on sky lead thread and other comments on this one, most of my fripes are with BT and the way long lines are not been dealt with. In terms of contention I have noticed much less of it on adsl, and in terms of sky I expect them to be successful as they always seem to pull things off and they may even have the muscle to make BT do tasks that my current isp nildram cant seem to do. Also with it been LLU it shouldnt fall foul of the BRAS capping system.

I wouldnt rely on ofcom tho james henry to make sure BT arent spinning bad numbers, since the cop out is the product is sold as up to 16meg and if people can get 256kbit then all is well and good. They even allow occasional desynchs as part of the product defenition.

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Ofcom are pretty harsh to BT and the whole 'advanced brodband services' thing that they might take some interest in would expect levels of performance from BT. If BT lie about the quality of their loop and don't deliver Ofcom get tetchy as do other stakeholders and unbundlers.

Occasional desynchs are of course a part of the product definition, they are a fact of life with analogue broadband be it delivered via coax or UTP.

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ive got 1 question, is sky broadband via ADSL or is it via hte dish because if it is via ADSL there is something very wrong, it says i can get max which is 16MB but on all otehr ADSL ISPS i can get up to 3MB, just wondering .

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Sky Broadband is ADSL. They don't do a broadband by satellite service. Some companies do, but the speeds are quite low, and it's expensive.

As for the speed, Sky can only offer the 16 meg service where they have installed equipment in the exchange. Obviously they have upgraded your exchange.

Also, one thing to note, it's actually UP TO 16 meg..

I always offer more
 

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can anyone who's on the sky max service tell me what kind of upload speed you get please? :)

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upload speed is a maximum of 768kbps.

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I will be moving home in about a months time

I currently have NTL

In new place (apartment) I can connect to either Sky or NTL. I have decided to go with Sky cause I can get free broadband - plan to get the 'middle package' - dont need the max one.

Is the connection good - I have heard ppl having probs with the carphone warehouse talk talk free broadband and also probs with the orange one

thanks

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talk talk is renouned for being ****. orange is formerly wanadoo and in some instances is also **** due to the abysmal LLU fiasco that has been going on.

sky uses the ukonline LLU method which I believe is ok. as it is backed by SKY I would expect they could not afford the bad publicity of poor connections.

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There's an article you might want to read over at The Reg... here's a link:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11..._tech_support/

The title of the article is "Sky Broadband users speak out about support woes - Free, but failing"... guess you can guess what the tone of the article is about already :erm:

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I suggest you goto samknows and get the crow distance, if its anything above 1km straight line then you may have problems hitting 8mbit, if its above 2km you will likely have problems getting more then 4mbit.

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Its actually up to 24mb but they dont advertise that :)

Same for Bulldog to. They advertise what most people will get

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not really they advertise upto 16meg since thats a realistic max, someone next door to the exchange would probably get 16-18mbit very few people get even close to 20mbit.

25% of people or there abouts can get 16mbit speeds on adsl2+ the bulk of people will be lower then 8mbit.

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I am not next to the exchange and I sync at 18.2mb.



Plus i have seen a Attn of 45db obtain a 8mb speed on ADSL2+ and thats a estimate of 3km line distance.
I have just found out though that your line is poor. Dont go by your poor results and a result for everyone

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My data comes from what BT released not long ago published on adslguide.

8meg on 45db is not average it is very lucky.

Data provided by BT shows 25% of lines able to get 8meg on adsl1 they then used the data provided from BE's graph to give estimated capabilties on adsl2+

Now there will be lines that break this trend some will perform better and some will perform worse but there is an average.

My line is actually over performing for a line with 50 attenuation if I had the average synch for my loop loss I would only be getting 1.5mbit.

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I have been scouting about and found some people with a attn of 58db on a 3mb down and 768k up.

Why is your line so bad that you automatically condemn everyone elses to the same level?

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how far are you to the exchange, what i find weird in my area, is that when you put the exchange post code on a speed checker it says maximum 7.6mbs but sky says they enabled with 16MB etc blah blah, my line says maximum 3MB but sky let me sign up for max, shouldnt it only be hte free and mid?

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No

Because the maximum figures is for Maxdsl where as skys 16mb is ADSL2+

My line says between 6.5mb and 8mb on Maxdsl

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did you read my post or just ignore what I said.

my comment is based on published BT data not my line.

although my line has a very high attenuation for the length, my synch of 4500 with a 15snr margin is very high for the attenuation.

You had to scout to find people with 3meg on 58 attenuation, good for you, I could do the same but I could also find people with only 512kbit on the same attenuation, bit of a biased view coming from yourself.

But to put this to rest here for you.

http://www.adslguide.org/newsarchive.asp?item=2846

so its nearer 42% for 8mbit, but for 16mbit it will be below 25%. The reason why the % of people on LLU with high speeds is high is because many LLU providers simply refuse to even provision bad lines cherry picking their customers.

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so with these results you saying i can get 6MB on ADSL2+ on sky, sorry im a noob at ADSL

You are connected to the Bracknell telephone exchange.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/10/14.gifADSL is available in your areahttps://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/10/14.gifYour exchange is also enabled for ADSL Max services
According to BT Wholesale, your line should be able to support a 3Mbps or greater ADSL connection via ADSL Max.

Standard ADSL RAG results:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/10/14.gifYou cannot receive 2Mbps ADSL https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/10/14.gifYou may be able to receive 1Mbps ADSL https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/10/14.gifYou can receive 512Kbps ADSL https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/10/14.gifYou can receive 256Kbps ADSL

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Whats your router stats?

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what do you mean, how far i am from the exchange, if yes its You are approximately 1.67km from the exchange (straight line distance).

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What router you got?

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none right now, im with NTL and got the modem connected straight to my pc, i might move to sky, just depends how fast i can go

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In that case you will never know what speed you will get until your connected.

Without line stats its impossible to tell as even though your 1.67km from the exchange your line will almost likely take a longer route and could pick up noise on the way.

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if you with ntl I dont suggest getting adsl unless ntl is particurly bad in your area or you need something one of the niche adsl providers can give you.

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Like lower costs

Thats why I left cable. I am getting 4 times more upload and double speed for £11 less

And please no landline arguments as I have to have a landline even if i was on Cable for Sky

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hey,

regard yo a few posts back aout stats and that, my brother is on ADSL with orange and might want to go with sky, on tets they say 5MBS or greater on ADSL max, his connected straight to the ADSL modem can i still check these stats and how?

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Tell me what router he has and I will tell you how to get these stats

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its a speedtouch modem, should i just go into the software for it, il ltry that when i go there

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speedtouch 330

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can work the other way tho, you are in an llu area?

I went from £35 10meg/512 ntl to £27 4meg/448 guess which I prefer.

I could have got cheaper adsl but then I would have to put up with shaping etc. None of the llu providers other then sky will touch my line with a barge pole.

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SpeedTouch 330

http://www.dslzoneuk.net/adsl_line_s...id=ST330#ST330

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sorry guys, does anyone have that link to check what speed I can get with ADSL in my area please? :)

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note: samknows will tell you straight line distance only, ofcom have the uk as a average of real distance vs straight as 1.4 so if samknows says 1km on that formula you could think 1.4 but some lines are massively over 1.4. The best way is to get a BT phone number from your street and put it in a checker.