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I'm tempted to just get the DVD, save a lot of time and effort, just the small cost of it.. |
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I managed to download it the morning it came out successfully on my laptop which has its hard drive formatted in FAT32 (the download was very slow though at 100-200k on my 10meg line)
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Upto 31% after only one day (started downloading yesterday).
Should be ready to test by about Tuesday, or Monday if I'm lucky. |
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The 64bit one still seems to be 14 MB - any ideas?
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I'm starting to get very tempted to buy the damn thing like Jarandco :( Though I've still not been able to get onto the MS recommended downloader so I may give it a day or two
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I gave in and bought one of the DVD'S, knowing my luck the download will probably work totally fine tomorrow, but at least its done, and id assume i could give the DVD to other people as long as they've got a CD serial key?
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So did anyone actually get a working copy of Vista ?? Considering all the probs we've been getting with the download, I'd be very surprised.
Does this bode well for Vista if they can't even get the downloads working properly ? I know... High demand etc..... but let's face it, wasn't that to be expected ? Yes there's the option of buying the DVD, I just wonder how long it would take for that to arrive in the post !!! All in all, I think it's a pretty poor show from MS... I'll just keep an eye out in other places for the download, after all it's free and I'm sure some other company will host it. If anyone finds a reliable source let me know please... |
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If I can just keep my son off Runescape for long enough, it should finish soon I hope! :) |
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On other points, I managed to get the Vista build downloaded form the M$ site no problems. I used Free Download Manager just incase it stopped half way but seemed to run through no worries. Installed no bother although i do think it took a couple hours (i did an upgrade - after a full system backup!). Looks nice and works pretty well - although is rather slow still but hey its beta. Don't try and do loads of things at the same time as it does seem to get rather confused. There are a lot of programs that still wont work but have to say 90% of what I use does. And if you do get it installed press windowskey + Tab (scoll with the mouse) How cool is that ;) |
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Made it in one download, as speed was excellent. Burnt it to disc, twice as Nero found an error when checking first burn, and then got ready to install. Moved all files off the drive I wanted to use and then set it to master and formatted it. Have given up after 9 attempts with always the same error - Error Code 80070241. Have done a Google and checked the Vista forums and seems for some of the downloads the ISO is no good and gives this error. Have given up with it for now, especially as I am using a Vista lookalike on my XP. May try in a few days again but is too time consuming for something that will not install. |
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LOL, sounds interesting.
Well I must say I didn't want to admit defeat with the download, so I tried again about an hour ago, it's downloading !! At 33% now and around 160 to 200kb/s...... Fingers crossed it will download ok, then comes the really interesting part.. installing it. If it doesn't work, well backup dvd's are ready just in case... |
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I d/l it fine installed it ok had a play with it its nice and sparkly but unfortunately my soundcard m-audio and printer have no drivers for this yet but it looks like a sooped up ford capri compared to xp all bells and whistles to me .
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I used this download manager yesterday and got full speed the whole time.
http://www.freedownloadmanager.org Got it installed using Daemon Tools but went back to XP as I think you'd need a least 1GB of memory. |
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Well i have it as my primary OS and all is wicked
No problems @ all Took me about an hour using DAP on my NTL 10Meg |
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Has anyone actually got a 64 bit edition yet? I just keep on getting the poxy 13 MB :(
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i am using the 64bit version
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Just finished downloading the 64bit version, burning right now....... Install comes next, if it works..... I'LL BE BACK !!!
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The 64 bit one is still only giving me 13.73 MB - anyone know any mirrors?
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Apparently some are downloading this ok, but I've tried to get it through IE, Firefox and several download managers, all to no avail :shrug: |
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The keys are limited to 10 pcs what if you need to install on a different pc? not a very good idea dude no offence
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well finally got it downloaded and started install on my spare 80GB drive. Gets 89% through install then gives error 80070241. It appears many people have been getting this . Seems to be something to do with the download itsslef or when burning the DVD. Am going to download again and burn at a slower speed to see if I can get it installed.
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downloaded again and burnt to DVD at 2x. Got it installed and its pretty cool. Only problem is can't find drivers for my USB2 card and audio card.
Seems pretty stable and everything works ok. My major problem is that I can't get the media extender functions to work with my 360, just get a message that the Disc is the wrong region. |
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Finally downloaded Saturday. About 30% of the way through and I got error 80070241.
Trying download one more time - today it's up to 83%. |
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The x64 still isn't downloading...
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Nor here and i emailed support@microsoft.com and got some nonsensical gibberish about Vista not being supported at the moment and giving me information about a news group. I wasnt asking for support on Vista FFS I was asking about the download link!! grr!!
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Where do you get the key? :)
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I did that after getting the error at 94%. Burning at 2x seems to have fixed it for me. I think the fast speed corrupts some of the files. |
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I have got it downloaded and installed, is anyone having problems with their wireless networking when using Vista? The network card in my laptop doesn't like Vista and although it shows the network and tries to connect it fails each time so I am using a USB adapter but it disconnects all the time.
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I ended up downloading the 32-bit version as when I download the 64-bit version I always end up with a 13-14MB file which obviously is wrong. I will try 64-bit again later with --ignore-size from my Linux box on wget and see if that makes a difference but for now, the 32-bit version has better compatibility anyways
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I'd love to install 32 bit vista on my laptop, but our network admins have ruled that no beta operating systems can be installed on anything that connects to the Uni's network, and I do need to attach my Lappy to the uni network. :(
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yeah...just downloaded both .ISO files at work in 20 minutes - oh the joy of a fast connection :)
Will have to wait till I get home to try out the 64bit version though - in the meantime I will have to rummage around at work to find a machine to install the 32bit version on |
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Here we go, screenshot of Windows Vista 32-bit, a fresh install with no drivers yet, even Paint's had a makeover! It's all very Mac OS X- like
---------- Post added at 14:47 ---------- Previous post was at 14:06 ---------- Here's one of Vista running World of Warcraft in a Window without any hassle :) ---------- Post added at 14:51 ---------- Previous post was at 14:47 ---------- Oh and just as a sidenote Outlook Express has been named Microsoft Windows Mail |
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Okay (better be careful how I word this) got a working ISO file, but not through the traditional means (that failed twice in all).
Just loaded and about to boot for the first time. What a lot of hassle! |
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64-bit or 32-bit?
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32 bit, install is complete.
A few teething issues - seemed to attack the hard disk for a while and then calm down (I think it was building search index). It didn't like the default Nvidia driver, but one from the Nvidia website is okay. Microsoft wireless mouse and keyboard don't like working through usb hub (crashed on every video I played until I worked this out). Not sure if you care, but I've jotted down my first impressions for you: - It looks nice, better than the "similar" themes available for XP - The Start menu is much, much better and I really like it - It is fairly fast compared to what I was expecting, and quite stable - Window animations are nice, not sure if I'll get bored of them - Getting around Explorer takes some getting used to - difficult to locate things when you're used to XP - No idea whether I can use this as my main OS but I will install a few things and try |
Corrupted size (13.7 Mb) for 64-bit version, look here
For those of you trying to download the 64-bit version and getting a download size of 13.7 Mb, the cause is what I beleive to be a fault in NTL's proxy servers. See the following two posts I have made about this issue:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=469703 http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...d.php?p=760411 The bottom line is, NTL's transparent proxies can't handle a download of this size (greater than about 4 Gb). Doesn't matter what browser or download manager you are using. Since NTL customers are forced to go through the transparent proxies, we are in trouble. |
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wow I was just comeing on cable forum to see if anyone had the awnser to that neowin problem with stupid NTL...
I mite just give up on Vista64, that is the only reason I was going to upgrade from 5381x86 to 5384x64. Oh well can't be bothed upgradeing the build for next to no change. |
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you wont be able to upgrade you will have to reinstall.And it is available in other places as ive said
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I've been trying to download the 32bit edition for several days...
At first I tried using the MS download manager (in both IE7 and Firefox) but that never even connected to the remote file. Then I tried the direct ISO, in Firefox, which got to ~1.99GB before saying it was "completed". Upon examining the ISO, it had the text file which has previously been mentioned, but nothing else... Now I've tried several times using FlashGet, which is at least seeing the correct total size (3,276,952KB) . The official MS ISO location stopped after 60% yesterday, and when I forced it to resume continually said "Error Occured!" after "Content-Range: Bytes *****" in the transfer window. Eventually it started recieving again, this morning, but stopped at 64% (2097508KB) and has not gone any further. I've also tried the mirror at betanews which was mentioned in this thread - again, it got to 60% before stopping, and after a number of reconnection attempts started again, once more getting to 64% (this time a different size - 2098155KB) before stopping and being unable to reconnect with "Error Occured!". All my disks are NTFS formatted... and this is driving me mad :( Does anyone have any suggestions as to what it could be? I'm on an 120 cable modem, through an Asus router using a wired connection, not the wireless ability, and I've downloaded larger things before - albeit not recently... Sunil |
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get it from somewhere else ;) It cant be piracy as its a freely available download.Also a key is freely available and its distributed by micr$oft without a medium so any source of this has to be ok to use imo (obviously as long as theres no viruses or the like added ;)) |
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Getting it working can be expensive - so far new graphics and TV card not sure what next... |
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Thanks zinglebarb. I've been lurking on the site for a while and thought it would be prudent if my first post was not "why hasn't NTL upgraded my 2Mbit to 4Mbit yet"... :p:
I've already got the key - it seems like that is the only part of the MS beta program which is working correctly! I was hoping to avoid "other sources", but meh. I'll probably end up doing this then... I would still like to know why it's bugging out at approx. the same point (give or take 100Meg) each time though... it never stopped at less than 1.9GB, and it's never gone much over 2GB. Some other people seem to have had no problem downloading it... Is it an NTL thing, perhaps linked to specific invisible proxies - I'm in Cambridge by the way - as I was having lots of fun last week with proxy/DNS issues... Cheers Sunil Quote:
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What is wrong with useing the word BitTorrent? Its not an ilegal program just like Limewire is not ilegal, some people may use it to break the law but also people can use it to share legal documents or files.
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Most "other sources" will have split the file into rars and created parity recovery files for it which is a far far far better way of dealing with such a big download.
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I recently downloaded a 7GB+ ISO with no such filesize problem via my ntl connection, makes me think that the problem points to the M$ servers. :erm:
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Cut of date for Vista applications
Just had my technet bi weekly email if you need a key to run vista legit you have to register and gain your key by the 18th June
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few i got mine
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64bit - OK, I've done it - point your download manager to use this as a proxy
69.19.14.10 port 80 And it will then report the correct file size AND download it... :) |
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DOnt you mean Port 8080 as Port 80 would still get caught by NTL's transparent caches.
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Did not work for me. Used FFox and IE
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Well I have my download and my key but I'm trying to work out if it's really worth the hassle of installing it. Will my hardware work? Will my other PC be able to connect and access my files though file and printer sharing like now?
So many questions and I can't seem to see the answers. :( |
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So do a dual-boot and you dont have to worry about any of that
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Or if you have a spare drive install it on that.
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Didnt I just say that? :)
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I had a spare 80GB drive I wasn't using so connected that and installed on there. Now if I want to use Vista I just swap drives over. |
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Well I have finally decided to give up trying to install this stupid Beta Vista.
Downloaded a second ISO file and burnt it to disc at the slowest speed Nero would let me, and that was 4x speed. Now it manages to get to 61% install before giving the dreaded Error 80070241. Would never surprise me if Microsoft has a dodgy download in the hope people will buy the disc. I know others have managed to download and install, but after two downloads and three burns, one failed on burn, am giving up. Using an empty 60gig drive so it should have been no problem. Now have two key codes with nothing to use them on. :-( |
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I have been tearing my hair out for the last few days trying to download both the 32 & 64 bit versions of Vista. Your method appears to work with both versions with the 32 bit version also now reporting the correct size - hopefully it will get past the 2GB cut off point that so many of us are experiencing. |
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Any third party proxy server that you can find on the Internet, which uses other than port 80, should work. As long as they let you waste 4 Gb of bandwidth. ;)
If you want to stick to using an NTL proxy, here is a solution. You can use one of the still remaining, old proxies of the form cacheX-lang.server.ntli.net:8080 (where X is 1, 2 or 3).These return the correct file size. Unfortunately, these proxies do not support download resuming, so if you are almost at 4 gigs and the download disconnects, you can start all over again. An avenue I tried is to start the download with one of the cacheX-lang proxies to get the right size, and download a few megabytes. I then changed back to one of the standard NTL proxies and resumed the download. The download does resume, but it stops at 13.7 Mb. So it looks like the only solution at the moment is to either use a third party proxy, or use one of the cacheX-lang proxies for the entire download, and pray that you don't get disconnected. EDIT: I can also confirm that nffc's solution (proxy IP 69.19.14.10 port 3128) works wonderfully. Even though it's a proxy in USA, I am getting full download speed at the maximum possible with my 2 Mbps connection. |
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In case you want to verify your download before burning it to a DVD, here are the MD5 hashes of the files:
32-bit version (vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso): 0e733ab1a8e8ff9a8684fd3639332773 64-bit version (vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x64fre_client-LB2CxFRE_EN_DVD.iso): e43502d0a15eadd551119d5639859e04 |
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Downloading direct to my server at around 8m, will have whole ISO in about 6 mins.
Once it's there, I'll provide a link here with a 500 gig download limit ;) https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2006/06/6.jpg ---------- Post added at 02:48 ---------- Previous post was at 02:40 ---------- Link pending.... |
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that link gives
"You don't have permission to access /vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/1.3.36 Server at www.your-domain-here.co.uk Port 80" i like the test card tune at the main page though LOL. |
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Yeah, just noticed... editing now ;)
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its alright stuart, no rush, im now busy with DVB-T encoding etc stuff so wont get around to trying today perhaps.
thanks for your efforts anyway, much appreciated. ohh, does your server come with ftpd resume too, that might be better for some people ?,off to check me logs :) |
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Right, I had to put it as an FTP transfer, so you can either use the following details, or this link.
FTP: 195.20.108.53 UN: cableforum PW: There is NO password. NOTE: That server has 100mbit of global transit, so should be good for multiple downloads. If it gets a bit slow, I will limit to 20 or 30 connections ;) |
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Yes, server should resume partial downloads ;)
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That box should be capable of serving about thirty 10m connections, but it also hosts a couple of BF2 servers, so could get choppy if it's maxed out.
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After i have downloaded the file, i believe i have to burn it onto a DVD disk!
Will any DVD disk do, or does it need to be specific!?? Thanks, |
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just a standard dvd r will be fine.It has to be burnt as a iso use nero or decrypter to burn it :)
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Finally managed to get Vista and install it on my second HDD and its all working fine now after the initial problem of blue screen errors which was fixed by getting the ati driver for vista. Also managed to get sound, although only stereo its better than nothing!
The only problem i have at the moment is being able to dual boot vista and XP without having to swap over the cables, ive got XP on the master drive and Vista on the slave both HDD are working together in XP, but i want to be able to choose the boot up between XP and Vista when the PC is turned on, and I'm not exactly sure how to do this? Anyone know or is there any programs or instructions on how to do this? |
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you can edit the boot loader to all for older operating sytems let me just boot vista and ill tell you what to put
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4u ?
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http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win...19d4af778.mspx
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No mate, that was a question to Stuart asking if it was hosted on a 4u server :)
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oic lol sorry
It appears you boot from vista dvd the enter start up blar blar. Jarandco when you start this go armed with the hdd location,If the xp drive is a single drive on primary master then it will be rdisk0 partition1 you may need this information |
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rite so i need to use the bcdedit.exe to set up dual boot? i assume i need to run that in vista, or can i run it from xp?
Thanks for the link Zinglebarb |
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well if both drives were in the machine when the second os was isntalled it should all be done.Did you remove a drive before you installed vista? mine just worked every time ive tried it and ive been installing vista since its first beta (and its still just eye candy ;))
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Or maybe i should reinstall vista with both drives in...? Altough id need to format the Vista drive again wouldnt i? |
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I shall make it my mission this week to suss out how to set up customised start up options in vista (not just simple countdowns lol )
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Would reinstalling Vista again be worth it to make the dual boot options appear? (Would that be simpler although possibly longer?)
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yes it should
yes it will be quicker but only cuz you will have to learn how lol i spose its simple but dunno how |
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ok found it
boot from vista dvd enter boot whatever and I believe you get to a command prompt at this prompt enter this key bcdedit /displayorder {802d5e32-0784-11da-bd33-000476eba25f} this should then add the older operating systems options and I believe use the existing xp boot ini file (edit this may add a rogue operating system in the order that will not work however you should be able to delete the wrong on in vista) User runs the risk on his own cuz I aint tried this yet |
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got the dual boot set up, the only thing i want to hange if possible is the OS that is the default. At the moment Vista is the default option and will load after the countdown, how can i change this sob that it is XP that loads after the countdown?
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Try running bcdedit.exe
I havent tried it myself but thats what ive been told |
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control panel /system /advanced /start up and recovery (in vista of course)
just change the default there |
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XOSL (GUI boot) might be a way too, iv not used it in a while, and not tryed yet with vista.
get it here http://www.ranish.com/part/ http://www.ranish.com/part/xosl115.zip the original website is no more and i cant find the new one yet. and heres some screen dumps of how it looks http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/solution/multiboot/index.html |
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Running x64 version now I've figured out how to disable the requirement of signed drivers and got my Audigy 4 Pro working :cool:
So, for anyone having trouble with x64 Vista drivers: 1. Hit Windows Key + R to bring up the Run command window. 2. Type cmd and hit Enter. 3. At the Command Prompt, type "bcdedit /set nointegritychecks ON" (without quotes). NOTE: If you using an Audigy sound card, just download the Vista Beta driver dated 10th November 2005, unpack the .exe to the desktop with WinRAR and point Update Driver Software at C:\Users\Yourname\Desktop\SBAX_PCDVTBETA_US_2_08_0002\Drivers ;) |
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Good tip :)
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in edit to my boot set up advice earlier enter command prompt as above and enter bcdedit /displayorder {802d5e32-0784-11da-bd33-000476eba25f} |
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Anyone else disappointed with Vista's new Disk Defragmenter?
Well it doesn't seem to do a great deal for me. Currently after Vista (Beta 2) is installed, the system partition is heavily fragmented, especially the x64 build, so I thought I'd try Diskeeper and found this: http://files.diskeeper.com/beta/Disk...Vista_beta.exe Working perfectly on x64 Beta 2, I've not tested it on x86 yet but I gather it should work OK. |
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How is your Vista partition heavily fragmented already?
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