Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Aww man that sucks ;)

Damn nice on stock cooling stock vcore, 1.04Ghz OC... I'm liking it. Would be a 2.5x upgrade to this one... So, by rule of thumb, somethiung more than twice as good is usually a decent upgrade :)

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Funnily throttlewatch reads my CPU as a 1733Mhz unit... hmmm...

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

I will up the vcore with none stock cooler just to see.For now im gonna run it at a safe 3.6 gig

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Currently basing my new PC around this thread ;) Just need it to encode and play the odd game. :)

And now i need a recomendation on the PSU?

When i get this all set up i will be benching against these scores you know... :)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Nice one :)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Just edited, any reccomendations? I'm not actually sure how big the PSU would need to be?

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

The hipers are good quality/price balance
The mobo will take either a 20 pin or 24 pin atx psu so you have loads of choice

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Ive just routed through the bios and the throttling can be turned off.Once the new HSF is installed ill give it another go without the throttling

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Ah, that's good as i've been taking a look at some of the Hiper modulars :)

Now, what wattage? lol

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

580 watt or you could buy a 900 watt Tagen ;)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

*drools*

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/98562

*drools some more*

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

I had one of them for a couple of day's and it's bloody useless. It can't live up to the specs they advertise and there's absolute no way you could pull 580W over any extended period of time and the fans are really noisy, who sticks 80mm fans in anything nowadays?

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Not surprising as its a 550W PSU.

It should be overkill for what i'll be needing, which is the idea. Not stressing it out too much.

I still use 80mm Fans, never used anything else (aaprt from the 92mm one cooling my CPU on my Zalman)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Try reading it again ... it's 580W and it has two fans, 1 x 120mm and an 80mm exhaust which is far too noisy, if I can hear my PC then it's too loud.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Heh, i knew that... What made me think 550 there :S Strange.

Most of the reviews done by big places seem to point to it being a decent PSU as well. Probably still get one, the PC i have is noisy, but i have music on contsantly, so it never bothers me :) Plus, i come to expect it what with OC'ing alot.

Anything else you'd suggest?

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Seasonic, Tagan, Enermax, Antec & OCZ, in that order. The PSU is the most important part of your system, if it blows then you risk taking the CPU & motherboard with it so it's definately not worth scrimping over.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

I've blown 3 in my computing life, never done any other damage. So, i must be lucky.

Looking into alternatives now, and i'm also skimming the web for reviews as well.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Too noisey? Not likely. I have a 480W Tagan and it has 2x 80MM fans (one at the back and one at the front). They're completely silent, temperature controlled based on the heatsink temperature inside the actual PSU (this PSU is usually at 400W load 24/7 since my CPU uses 135W on it's own :erm: ).

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

We're talking about the 580W PSU, and I certainly didn't sit here and imagine the noise it's fans made :rolleyes:

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

And? Do you really think you're pulling 580W from it?

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Easily.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Oh, you're using that bugged system are ya?

Look here - http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum...ead.php?t=1024

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

No, I'm using a different version, look at both screenshots.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Just worked out my system on it... 333Watts apparantly. Ok, it's only a rough guide, but i doubt i would ever pull that in one go. As i doubt i'd use all 5 USB devices to the full at once.

Going to work out my new system on it... IF it lets me.

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Nope, no support for Dual Cores on it. Bit crappy tbh, i may look around see if i can find power draw and add that myself

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

I could probably pull more than that if I o/c'd the video card and slapped watercooling or a prometia/phase in.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Thats with a 24% OC on my CPU, and the massive 46% this Video Card is capable of. Oh, and for some reason the 6% the RAM always OC's itself by.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

I mean more than the approx. 583W I could draw under load atm.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

And there we have it, a gorssly overcalculated version of my sisters PC, which happens to run smooth as anything on a 180W PSU (from one of our old PC's)

It SHOULD be dead by now if it pulls that much load... surely?

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Run Prime95 on it for 24 hours.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Fair enough, now to keep my sister off it for 24hours... Easier said than done.

I know it's stable, it's been running like this for about 7months now.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Try this calculator instead, might be a bit more reliable

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

That one reccomends around 220W. Just noticed somethign severely wrong with my sisters machine... Heat.

In this hot weather it's hitting 65'C, and then shutting itself off. Looks like i'm replacing the thermal paste, and re-seating the HSF when i'm prepared to (got no spare thermal paste!)

Holding off testing for now :(

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Calculate my main rig @ a more realistic 265W.

Gonna run the new system through it now... If this one supports it (i think it does)

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Ok, the new system would check in at around 350W... Which i think may well be wrong.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

OMW, benchmarks are rolling in for Conroe's now, check this one, sub 10 second 1mb superpi!

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=17594614

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

5ghz :eek: :drool: :omg: :drool: :eek:

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Madness innit.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Yep, pure madness, been watching this myself in amazement.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

5GHZ?! It was already faster than AMD's processors at 2.6GHZ!

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Just a little bump the machine now runs stable at 50 degrees under load in a closed case at 3.7 gig so endeth this tale
Next month I will be building a Conroe based system as I have just found a buyer for my board cpu and ram>I need to sell an ang x800 xt pe with zalmon fan at the end of the month though lol

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

How much? Could help me shavea bit off the new build. Is it PCI-E ?

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And, is that with or without the Arctic Freezer Pro 7?

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Heh, AGP. Nevermind.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Im not selling my clocked machine thats my little toy lol(unless you offer a smart price lol ). If the gfx was pci e I wouldnt be upgrading it :(

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

I meant the GFX.


Also, is the main machine using the Arctic Freezer Pro 7? Did you even order it? Would love to know as i'm planning on using it with the same type of machine.

Plus, i'll obviously be doing the same benches as you did ;)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

yeah it knocked 10 degrees of running temp 51 degrees both cores 100% with closed case

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Nice :) Is it loud?

I'm considering posting what i have for my new system so far... Dunno whether to just yet or not.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

noooo
it holds it at 44 degrees idle spinning at 1440 rpm at 51 degrees its only spinning around 2300 rpm

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Wow :) Like my Zalman on this then :) Spins top @ 2800rpm/ No noise that i can hear :)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

well I ripped a 80 mm fan out of a psu and bunged it on the passive gfx heatsink the whole system runs sweet as you like

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Zingle - any chance of letting us know where you got the components? And how much they were?

PM if necessary?

Ta :tu:

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Well I got all my parts from a local place who I only use on occassion http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/ they can be bought cheaper ive seen the 805 as low as 72 quid I think :) The board cpu ram and 200 gig sata was less than 300

Sorry 82 quid at aria Ive downclocked the whole machine now to 3.5 gig with the latent temps I was getting throttling at 3.7 but only when the cpu is under 100% load at 3.5 there appears to be no throttling at all :)

Are you going for it dude ?? ;)

BTW my conroe build could be as little as 2 weeks away now im excited about that :)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Checking out the prices now... ;)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Cool dude but all my normal disclaimers hold for this lol lol ;)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Dude, what do you intend to do with your Conroe? Apparently Core 2 isnt that great at overclocking.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

So, you've never seen the 5Ghz Conroe project? etc...

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Yeah, i have but, like most overclockers, i dont really have access to phase change cooling...

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Oh, you meant to say doesn't overclock too well on air or water. Well, there ya go. Not seen much done on it as of yet. So no comment.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Well, what i meant was they they werent ment to be great overclockers (for your average joe), an AMD 2500+ is probably great at O/Cing with a tub of liquid oxygen keeping it cool.

I could be wrong as there is little info on it like you say - i was hoping Zingle would come back with a "I saw this thread here where they are overclocking the ass off them" and point us to it as i might go for the Core 2 instead of a the 805 given that the bottom end Core 2 is only about £125 quid and it would run on the same board i was planning on getting for the 805 anyway.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

the E6600 at stock performs slightly better than my 805 clocked to 3.7 gig in the arithmetic test but in multimedia tests it absolutely wee's on the 805. I will be happy leaving it at stock or maybe just tweaking it a little :) its going to be my main machine with an x1900xtx so its gonna be my main toy :)

I did see this however ;) http://www.xbitlabs.com/web/display/20060622104416.html


^^^^ they think the bottom end with hit 3.5 gig ;)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Hmmm, now those are the stats i was interested in (yours not xbitlabs), an 805 is only slightly worse than a core 2 at 3.7. So thats a 230 quid CPU against an 80 quid CPU and the difference isnt that much (at doing pi), but real world stuff (which is at the end of the day what we use the bloody things for) seems to be a lot better on Core2.

I wouldnt mind knowing how well the E63/400's do as they could very well be the best bang for buck.

I'll go off and have a look at your linky. Ta man!

EDIT: thats what we discussed above as that used the following:-

Not really something you or i have access to and that was also a pre-release conroe (i never trust pre-release stuff).

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

No well I was actually considering sticking with my overclock until I put it on sisoft sandra.The newest version of this has benchmarks for the conroes and this is where I saw the differences. I will overclock my conroe a bit im sure ill get a feww 100 mhz extra out of it :) and the multimedia test results are very impressive.I just wish I could have one now

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

you might want to read the OS news linked story
http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_i...0&threshold=-5
"
After an 18-page in-depth review of Intel's new processor line, The Tech Report concludes: "After years of wandering in the wilderness, Intel has recaptured the desktop CPU performance title in dramatic fashion. Both the Core 2 Extreme X6800 and the Core 2 Duo E6700 easily outperform the Athlon 64 FX-62 across a range of applications - and the E6600 is right in the hunt, as well. Not only that, but the Core 2 processors showed no real weaknesses in our performance tests."

http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=15189
"AMD executives said this week that they will promote its '4x4' enthusiast platform to counter the Core 2 Duo. AMD also plans to push a sort of 'performance number' into the market to redefine how consumers should think about power. The 4x4 platform will place two physical sockets on a motherboard, connected by AMD's Direct Connect architecture. Mounted on each socket will be an AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor, for a total of 4 cores. An eight-core '8X8' program will roll out in 2007."

i do wish they would put at least as good an SIMD (Single Instruction, Multiple Data) as the G4 PPC Altivec co-pro on the x86 though, its way past time, and the current sse2/3 dont cut it, were as the Altivec was 128 bit all the way through from day one (a very long time ago now) , there are moves to improve it, but that wont be seen anytime soon, we need a co-pro thats able to cope with the HD AVC MBAFF decoding/encoding without blinking in all the x86 cpu's.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

^ that just shows why im excited about the new build lol ;)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

It seems the Core 2 (X6800) is still faster than an FX-62 even when it's just running off the clock speed and not even using Intel's new 128-bit SSE. Someone on the climateprediction.net project had one for the weekend to test, and ran a model on it. All I can say is, it totally blown away every other CPU on the project.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

have you got a link to that post?.

i admit that iv not kept that close an eye on the intel 128bit SSE, but i seem to rememeber its still lacking compared to the Altivec and your only getting the benifit because of the extra cpu clock speed (good as that is now), any urls/pointers to the tech info?.

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lol, get some of this stuff and you might do a little better
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32959
"OVERCLOCKERS ARE AN odd bunch, and tend to evoke terms usually used in conjunction with mad movie scientists.
Strangely, it is because they tend to be mad scientists. One of the things you read about now and again is attempts at fluid immersion, and on top of that, fluid immersion with extreme cooling. I ran into a new toy for those attempts at Semicon today, a fluid called Galden."

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

It's quite a long thread, but the post about the Conroe's speed while it was tested is in this post: http://www.climateprediction.net/boa...?p=47673#47673.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

heres that old news now, that may improve the likes of SIMD in AMD chips, and intel also have other firm in talks.
http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Art...ssorlinkup.htm

"Clearspeed in talks with AMD about co-processor

Clearspeed, the Bristol parallel processor company, is in talks with AMD about developing a closely-coupled co-processor to soup up the AMD multi-core family of x86 processors.

future product for AMD is QuadCore, due out next year, a four-core microprocessor delivering double the performance of AMD’s current two-core product, DualCore.
"
http://www.clearspeed.com/downloads/...Whitepaper.pdf
http://www.clearspeed.com/pressrelea...06%20final.pdf

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Knew about the quad core on the bench for ages but Intel has these on the cards to anyway.The long and the short of it is AMD ruled the roost till the conroe abd Intel will now rule the roost till Next generation cpus tale end of this year early next :)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

yea , the quad and the 8x8 servers are old news.

the one part many seem to ignore or just plain forget, is the Clearspeed Co-Pro type tech, and how (if indeed it does find its way on to the chip itself) it could/would help immensely in the general calculations department for instance.

intel are evaluating them and others too, so its hoped that something far better than now will eventually land on the chip but not for a while yet it seems.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Yeah but the Conroe is still gonna be the dogs doo dars lol lol I will upgrade again when all that whatsit and ooogemaflip is integrated ;)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

lol

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

http://www.aria.co.uk/productinfocom...pecialStatus=1 have a few 805's left at 77.49 on offer ;)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

I'm looking at upgrading my well ancient AMD Athlon 1Ghz. It has served me well, but doesn't really cut it anymore (e.g watching HD movies and encoding).

The thing is it runs quite warm. Maybe over 60 degrees constantly and has probably been on 99% of the time for the last 5-6(?) years. I'm a bit fed up with the heat it generates in the bedroom and I'm also concerned by the electricity consumption.

Could anyone give me an idea of the sort of wattage that the 805 uses at stock and overclocked speeds. I guess the 805 is not one of the greener CPUs, so could anyone suggest one (maybe the AMD64, AMD X2 or Core Duo?)

I hear the AMD64 have some technology which enables it to underclock when idle thereby saving electricity and slowing fan speeds. Do Pentiums have this tech (specifically the new Core Duo)?

Cheers for answering any of my questions. :dunce: As you could see by my current processor I've been out of the loop for a while and hope to upgrade soon.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

The 805 is a low power guzzler and with the artic cooling cpu fan it doesnt get hot

AMD uses cool and quiet that slows the cpu im not sure about the Intel however ive never activated c & q as its pants

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

your AMD Athlon 1Ghz at 60 degrees is way to hot even in this heat we're having, i have one at 52c/126F and thats overclocked , on average its running at 111F or less.

you need to get a larger copper heatsink (and heat paste) on that with the fan running at about 2600 or less is nice and quiet.

for your encoding, you should look to nothing but the core or an x2 these days of AVC and HD encoding and even then, its going to be slower than realtime for the HD encoding

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

So your recommending that he gets a new cooler for the processor he's thinking about changing because its "way to hot" even though its been on 99% of the time for the last 5-6 years (and by all accounts running fine).

Good advice... :td:

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Right... i'm 99% sure i'm going to get one... Most likely get the CPU & motherboard now, and then grab other stuff later (memory, graphics card, HD - I only have IDE ones)

I remember vaguely somewhere saying that you need a very certain version of this cpu... other versions of the same CPU aren't overclockable like a certain version is... User comments on Aria mentions SL8ZH... Does it have to be this version, and if so, how can you tell the one you're getting is?

Does anyone know what I mean, or did I dream it?

Edit: Found this... doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me...

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict188562.html

Could anyone else explain it? And bottom line, will any 805 be overclockable the same as Zingle's/Tom's hardware's one?

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

I've done a bit of googling and think I've found what I'm looking for.

Here for anyone interested http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2389

Basically it would seem as if the 805 isn't really for me because even idle at stock it still guzzles way more power than pratically any AMD at load. I believe when overclocked it would probably use another 80W?

Overclocked and at load it may use up to 150W more than an equivalent AMD.

If like me the PC is left on at load 24/7 (I run a research prog in the background whilst idle) then it all adds up and it would probably be better to get an AMD or wait for the Core Duos.

The annual energy costs saved could probably get you a way better CPU!

Though for someone who enjoys a quick game here and there or likes a 'challenge' in overclocking then it would be a bargain.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

dude it works out at less than 10- 15 p a day difference so if you can buy a cpu for 35-50 quid thats better than mine then go for that one ill have 10.So your happy with a single core cpu then? as thats what the 3500 is

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

I'd get one of these but my bird keeps spending all my cash... :mad:

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

awwww dude lol lol

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

No, I'm not really happy about it. Whichever I choose I think it would always have to be a compromise between being powerful or green/cool (as in not spewing too much hot air into my bedroom).

If I had to choose now I'll go for the 4000+ (and maybe overclock it if necessary), but I think I'll wait for more info on the Core Duos first.

PS 35-50 quid a year all adds up considering how long I've had my last CPU for.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

each to there own

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Of course you could get the more powerful CPU, which may use more power, but gets through more work in a shorter time, so you can tunr the PC off for part of the day saving a bit of the power :juggle:

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

excellent point there dude that would reduce costs quite a bit :tu:

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Yes you could, but in my case I have a Cancer Research prog which runs using up any idle processing time. I could switch it off if I deem a lesser CPu would of done the equivalent amount of work, but it seems a bit mean.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Ah the perils of distributed computing. Watch our it can be additive and expensive. I once had 4 PCs running at once just to boost my output, but I gave up when I saw the leccy bill. But the bug hasn't caught you yet since most DCers want the best preformance they can afford.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

or you could pay the extra 50 quid a year and almost double your productivity if you dont your mean ;)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Good point! Gosh! I am a bit mean already!:shocked:

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Overclockers have now got a fair range of conroe ready mobos in stock.Theres a middle gigabyte board now that I fancy 35 quid less than the top one but I see nothing on the top board I want the cheaper one doesnt.

Ive desided to possibly spend the change and add a few quid for one of these babies http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/produ...s.php?gpid=143 this card has me panting :drool:

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

I have a suspicion that that card will be a tad more than £35 extra :eek:

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

well the xtx comes in around 350 quid that card is 411 so I think its worth the boost ;)

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

dont you think it odd that while they have a liquid cooled block on it, they only put small passive heat sinks on the ram?, wonder if it will fall over after a little/lot of overclock!.

i think it might have been easy looking at that rather nice block to add-in a square copper pipe passing liquid over each ram heatsink to help carry away the buildup?.

perhaps my pointer to the OC Immersion liquid was'nt such a funny thing after all, could be very useful if your that serious about OC'ing.

(regarding the thumbs down churlish comment by another poster)
Ohh and while we're at it, sure, spend £4 on a bigger AMD2400+ copper heatsink, then he might get another 4 years out of it, or dont you think spending a crappy £4 is werth the trouble to get the heat down and make the machine quieter in the process.

the guy is concerned about heat , he got the answer.

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

I was a bit like that a few months ago. 3 computers running that used up to 1.5kW while doing distributed computing, until I realised having the 3rd computer made things difficult :dozey:

But remember, computer parts (except for parts that move, such as HDDs, fans etc) are designed to run at 100% load. I've found hardware is more likely to break when it's not doing anything than doing something (and so have thousands more people who do distributed computing).

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Only 4 more days till Conroe's release :) god im itching to get my hands on this.
Not pre ordered though but if all goes to plan my build will be done by a week tomorrow

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well your right in what you say but this is down to changes in temperature,The more material such as silicon is exposed to big changes in temperature the less time it lasts.If your always on 100% the running temp will be most likely constant so such differing temps wont occur

Re: [Merged] 4.1 Ghz Dual Core Pentium 805 Monster
 

Normally I'd never recommend a Gigabyte motherboard to anyone, but reports on the Gigabyte DS3 have been really favourable, able to hit really high FSB's with Conroes.

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The DS3 does not have enough sata ports for me I was originally going to buy the DS6 but the DS4 appears to be best balance for me

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Jaysus, how many do you need? It's got 6!

I'm opting for the Asus P5W DH Deluxe WIFI (as soon as they start shipping them with the BIOS update to support Core 2)

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In the machine I have now theres 7 hard drives and a dvd rw so just 6 sata wouldnt allow me any expansion 8 does ;)

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DVD drives are the bane of my life, they need to start releasing bootable SATA models instead of me having to stretch IDE cables around my case.

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I have just got and built a system on one of these boards, its a monster of a board and absolutely fantastic.
I've got a 930 in it for now until core 2 duo arrives, mainly because of the potential bios issue, that and stocks of boards / ram / graphics cards etc are all going to take a hit next week when people flock to move to conroe so it means i've got a working system now and just need to change the cpu at my leisure when they are readily available.

The 930 is a 3GHz chip, i've already overclocked it to 4GHz on air yesterday (the hottest day around) and its 100% stable at that speed. 4.2GHz is abit flakey after long use and 4.5GHz it'll post but not really boot without alot of extra voltage so i'll need more cooling (already using a zalman 9500)

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i was just looking for some info regarding the sse4
and how apparently Intel has only officially published the opcodes, not what the instructions actually do, and came across this 'Buyers Guide To Conroe (Core 2 Duo)--NEW ... '.

some of you might like to have a read of it,
http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/...ic_id=24687657

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That link says the gigabyte DS6 is compatable but the DS4 isnt yet overclockers are selling the DS4 and the DS3 as compatable

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If you want an 805... You want to hurry. Apparently, Intel are nixing them by the end of the year....

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a2006...hardware.co.uk

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There down below 70 quid now too :) Im running 2 of these