Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:26:58 UTC

1st 512K took 3547 ms = 144.3 KB/sec, approx 1189 Kbps, 1.16 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
4th 512K took 1485 ms = 344.8 KB/sec, approx 2841 Kbps, 2.77 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1986 Kbps, 1.94 Mbps
slow
Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:30:09 UTC

1st 512K took 1797 ms = 284.9 KB/sec, approx 2348 Kbps, 2.29 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1562 ms = 327.8 KB/sec, approx 2701 Kbps, 2.64 Mbps
3rd 512K took 3625 ms = 141.2 KB/sec, approx 1163 Kbps, 1.14 Mbps
4th 512K took 1875 ms = 273.1 KB/sec, approx 2250 Kbps, 2.2 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 2116 Kbps, 2.07 Mbps
furkin great this 10meg ****e init
Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:30:50 UTC

1st 512K took 3250 ms = 157.5 KB/sec, approx 1298 Kbps, 1.27 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1657 ms = 309 KB/sec, approx 2546 Kbps, 2.49 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2281 ms = 224.5 KB/sec, approx 1850 Kbps, 1.81 Mbps
4th 512K took 1984 ms = 258.1 KB/sec, approx 2127 Kbps, 2.08 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1955 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
:mad:
one more
Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:32:22 UTC

1st 512K took 2297 ms = 222.9 KB/sec, approx 1837 Kbps, 1.79 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2766 ms = 185.1 KB/sec, approx 1525 Kbps, 1.49 Mbps
3rd 512K took 3328 ms = 153.8 KB/sec, approx 1267 Kbps, 1.24 Mbps
4th 512K took 2672 ms = 191.6 KB/sec, approx 1579 Kbps, 1.54 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1552 Kbps, 1.52 Mbps

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:04:34 GMT

1st 512K took 2719 ms = 188.3 KB/sec, approx 1552 Kbps, 1.52 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2547 ms = 201 KB/sec, approx 1656 Kbps, 1.62 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2812 ms = 182.1 KB/sec, approx 1501 Kbps, 1.47 Mbps
4th 512K took 3266 ms = 156.8 KB/sec, approx 1292 Kbps, 1.26 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1500 Kbps, 1.47 Mbps

Paul your server hasnt changed for BST :)

Also could locations be logged so speedtest stats published for diff regions?

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

I am also gettting these connection issues but only from one site which is www.easynews.com all downloads from that site were fine for about 1 week then they have drastically dropped of i am on a 10 mbit connection and i can only download from that site at between 10-15 kbs a second i have contacted NTL support and they have said that it is not there problem

Anyone have any ideas or experiencing the same issues

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

See http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=45727 for some things to try for Easynews connections.

I can get 500k from a single thread today using Level 3 on NTL.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Just got 10MB NTL today and during peak hours my speed seemed ok. Tried some newsgroups as well and it was flying at max speed, so far so good for me lets hope it stays this way (touch wood!)

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

thats very good, lets hope yours stays that way.

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give it 5 days mate then all hell will break loose thats what happend with mine fine for about 5 days then boooooom :(

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

My speeds on 2MB for the past couple of days:
Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:07:25 GMT

1st 512K took 5860 ms = 87.4 KB/sec, approx 720 Kbps, 0.7 Mbps
2nd 512K took 5734 ms = 89.3 KB/sec, approx 736 Kbps, 0.72 Mbps
3rd 512K took 5500 ms = 93.1 KB/sec, approx 767 Kbps, 0.75 Mbps
4th 512K took 5484 ms = 93.4 KB/sec, approx 770 Kbps, 0.75 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 748 Kbps, 0.73 Mbps

This is the 1st time in 3 years that the speed test has not been right with my ntl connection.
I have noticed then when a speed test (or large download) is running, the US & DS lights that go out, the SYNC & RDY lights are always on.
It's like it's receiving in bursts.
ntl 120 modem connected via eathernet. Power levels look fine according to Robin Walkers page.

---------- Post added at 20:50 ---------- Previous post was at 20:19 ----------

Okay, so this may not be ntl's fault in my case.
Just been doing some more testing, and it appears to be my firewall causing the problem, Sunbelt Kerio Personal Firewall 4.
If I disable or exit Kerio, the speed test is back to a more normal looking:
Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:48:51 GMT

1st 512K took 2203 ms = 232.4 KB/sec, approx 1915 Kbps, 1.87 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2187 ms = 234.1 KB/sec, approx 1929 Kbps, 1.88 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2875 ms = 178.1 KB/sec, approx 1468 Kbps, 1.43 Mbps
4th 512K took 2141 ms = 239.1 KB/sec, approx 1970 Kbps, 1.92 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1821 Kbps, 1.78 Mbps

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

interesting, I did notice in kerio 4 if you disable the tcp inspection (NIPS) that cpu usage drops dramaticly so I have that turned off, I have like you tried turning the firewall off completely but in my case it made no difference to speeds.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

So far so good so I hope it stays the same!

This post worries me! Hope I'm one of the lucky ones but going by my luck I doubt it :(

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:52:05 UTC

1st 512K took 4359 ms = 117.5 KB/sec, approx 968 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps
2nd 512K took 4375 ms = 117 KB/sec, approx 964 Kbps, 0.94 Mbps
3rd 512K took 4375 ms = 117 KB/sec, approx 964 Kbps, 0.94 Mbps
4th 512K took 4375 ms = 117 KB/sec, approx 964 Kbps, 0.94 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 965 Kbps, 0.94 Mbps

Bromley Area

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

I did notice that Kerio was high cpu usage.
I tried turning off various options (NIPS being one of them), but it made no difference to the speed, only thing that did was turning it off completely, so I've now un-installed Kerio.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

My line has gone live today. Its only on 2 meg at the moment but will be moved to the llu mux on Monday and then onto opto 22 meg . :)

So dam big :tu: to Ukonline and BT for getting my dsl up and running 4 days before the date they set for it.

And are you looking NTL

I have this speed at 21.04

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:03:41 GMT
1st 128K took 547 ms = 239620 Bytes/sec = approx 1994 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 547 ms = 239620 Bytes/sec = approx 1994 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 547 ms = 239620 Bytes/sec = approx 1994 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 547 ms = 239620 Bytes/sec = approx 1994 kbits/sec


To repeat this test from the source server click here.

http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/sp...22390457628910

I have never got that speed after 6.00pm for 2 months on my cable connection.

Now that is what High speed Broadband is all about :) Not the dial up speed NTL subjected me to.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:40:19 GMT

1st 512K took 4578 ms = 111.8 KB/sec, approx 921 Kbps, 0.9 Mbps
2nd 512K took 500 ms = 1024 KB/sec, approx 8438 Kbps, 8.24 Mbps
3rd 512K took 453 ms = 1130.2 KB/sec, approx 9313 Kbps, 9.09 Mbps
4th 512K took 609 ms = 840.7 KB/sec, approx 6927 Kbps, 6.76 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 6400 Kbps, 6.25 Mbps



To repeat this test from the source server click here.

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:41:27 GMT

1st 512K took 968 ms = 528.9 KB/sec, approx 4358 Kbps, 4.26 Mbps
2nd 512K took 485 ms = 1055.7 KB/sec, approx 8699 Kbps, 8.5 Mbps
3rd 512K took 437 ms = 1171.6 KB/sec, approx 9654 Kbps, 9.43 Mbps
4th 512K took 438 ms = 1169 KB/sec, approx 9633 Kbps, 9.41 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 8086 Kbps, 7.9 Mbps

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:41:48 GMT

1st 512K took 1234 ms = 414.9 KB/sec, approx 3419 Kbps, 3.34 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1234 ms = 414.9 KB/sec, approx 3419 Kbps, 3.34 Mbps
3rd 512K took 1047 ms = 489 KB/sec, approx 4029 Kbps, 3.93 Mbps
4th 512K took 1094 ms = 468 KB/sec, approx 3856 Kbps, 3.77 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 3681 Kbps, 3.6 Mbps

A bit up and down :dozey:

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:30:46 GMT

1st 512K took 491 ms = 1042.8 KB/sec, approx 8593 Kbps, 8.39 Mbps
2nd 512K took 510 ms = 1003.9 KB/sec, approx 8272 Kbps, 8.08 Mbps
3rd 512K took 521 ms = 982.7 KB/sec, approx 8097 Kbps, 7.91 Mbps
4th 512K took 561 ms = 912.7 KB/sec, approx 7521 Kbps, 7.34 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 8121 Kbps, 7.93 Mbps

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:50:14 GMT

1st 512K took 551 ms = 929.2 KB/sec, approx 7657 Kbps, 7.48 Mbps
2nd 512K took 551 ms = 929.2 KB/sec, approx 7657 Kbps, 7.48 Mbps
3rd 512K took 531 ms = 964.2 KB/sec, approx 7945 Kbps, 7.76 Mbps
4th 512K took 530 ms = 966 KB/sec, approx 7960 Kbps, 7.77 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 7805 Kbps, 7.62 Mbps

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:50:28 GMT

1st 512K took 541 ms = 946.4 KB/sec, approx 7798 Kbps, 7.62 Mbps
2nd 512K took 521 ms = 982.7 KB/sec, approx 8097 Kbps, 7.91 Mbps
3rd 512K took 591 ms = 866.3 KB/sec, approx 7138 Kbps, 6.97 Mbps
4th 512K took 511 ms = 1002 KB/sec, approx 8256 Kbps, 8.06 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 7822 Kbps, 7.64 Mbps

The test isn't the greatest for people not on ntl's network.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:06:46 UTC
1st 128K took 109 ms = 1202495 Bytes/sec = approx 10005 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 109 ms = 1202495 Bytes/sec = approx 10005 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 110 ms = 1191564 Bytes/sec = approx 9914 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 109 ms = 1202495 Bytes/sec = approx 10005 kbits/sec

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

What are you using in its place? or you have no firewall now?

I have tried a few firewalls on 10meg and I found they all seem to use around the same amount of cpu with base functions, and the ones that do packet inspection when turned on will use much more cpu.

---------- Post added at 12:27 ---------- Previous post was at 12:24 ----------

alternative test not on ntl's network.

http://www.chrysalisnet.org/ntl/hfspeedtest2.html

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:26:27 UTC

1st 512K took 359 ms = 1426.2 KB/sec, approx 11752 Kbps, 11.48 Mbps
2nd 512K took 438 ms = 1169 KB/sec, approx 9633 Kbps, 9.41 Mbps
3rd 512K took 484 ms = 1057.9 KB/sec, approx 8717 Kbps, 8.51 Mbps
4th 512K took 1063 ms = 481.7 KB/sec, approx 3969 Kbps, 3.88 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 8518 Kbps, 8.32 Mbps

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:28:09 UTC

1st 512K took 453 ms = 1130.2 KB/sec, approx 9313 Kbps, 9.09 Mbps
2nd 512K took 406 ms = 1261.1 KB/sec, approx 10391 Kbps, 10.15 Mbps
3rd 512K took 531 ms = 964.2 KB/sec, approx 7945 Kbps, 7.76 Mbps
4th 512K took 422 ms = 1213.3 KB/sec, approx 9998 Kbps, 9.76 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 9412 Kbps, 9.19 Mbps

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

http://www.chrysalisnet.org/ntl/hfspeedtest2.html

NTL 2mbit.

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:52:01 GMT

1st 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2141 ms = 239.1 KB/sec, approx 1970 Kbps, 1.92 Mbps
4th 512K took 2140 ms = 239.3 KB/sec, approx 1972 Kbps, 1.93 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1964 Kbps, 1.92 Mbps

Not bad thought it would be worse than that actally
(brothers playing planetside reserves atm.)

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

1st 512K took 391 ms = 1309.5 KB/sec, approx 10790 Kbps, 10.54 Mbps
2nd 512K took 453 ms = 1130.2 KB/sec, approx 9313 Kbps, 9.09 Mbps
3rd 512K took 422 ms = 1213.3 KB/sec, approx 9998 Kbps, 9.76 Mbps
4th 512K took 1719 ms = 297.8 KB/sec, approx 2454 Kbps, 2.4 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 8139 Kbps, 7.95 Mbps

my speed has improved recently considerably. The last one on my test site seems to always report low speed I think the browser is slow generating the page and skews the result.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

I've gone back to using FilSecLab firewall for the time being which I was testing before I put Kerio on, the speed difference is noticable even when load web pages, the pages here on CF load much quicker now without Kerio.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Just how accurate is the speed test at the top nav bar????

I am on a supposedly 10 meg line

I ask because on adslguide i get 1.5 mbps

Ive run spyware check etc etc, reset my modem and that the best i get. On bandwidth place i get 3 meg max.

However on the test above on the nav bar i get:

Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:52:31 GMT

1st 512K took 422 ms = 1213.3 KB/sec, approx 9998 Kbps, 9.76 Mbps
2nd 512K took 437 ms = 1171.6 KB/sec, approx 9654 Kbps, 9.43 Mbps
3rd 512K took 438 ms = 1169 KB/sec, approx 9633 Kbps, 9.41 Mbps
4th 512K took 437 ms = 1171.6 KB/sec, approx 9654 Kbps, 9.43 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 9735 Kbps, 9.51 Mbps

My upload speed is always around 500k btw on any test i do.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

you are quite close to your 10mb witht ose try my 2mb speed.

Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:14:17 GMT

1st 512K took 2844 ms = 180 KB/sec, approx 1483 Kbps, 1.45 Mbps
2nd 512K took 3249 ms = 157.6 KB/sec, approx 1299 Kbps, 1.27 Mbps
3rd 512K took 4547 ms = 112.6 KB/sec, approx 928 Kbps, 0.91 Mbps
4th 512K took 4891 ms = 104.7 KB/sec, approx 863 Kbps, 0.84 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1143 Kbps, 1.12 Mbps

It can go lower before the night is out.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

ADSLGuide's tester is a bit congested at the moment, as is ntl's external connectivity.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Try the Telewest one than. http://tenmeg.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Thats a good link, some solid tips on there, nice :tu:

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

An update here.

I have noticed some weird goigns on over the past week or so, peak time performance up etc.

What seems to be going on is it slows down as normal late afternoon and between 5pm and 6pm its very bad, lag spikes in ssh, slow speeds etc. Then at 6pm speeds shoot up (download on ftp went from 70kB/sec to 820kB/sec) and the lag in ssh dissapears, browsing is also more responsive.

So I have a theory shaping is on here it fits in with the 6-12pm times been mentioned as well. If it is shaping ntl appear to have made a good job of it, what I use my connection for benefits from it.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

any evidence to back this up

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Odd thing to say. The guy gave the observations that lead to his speculation in the above post, which I thought was quite clear. His post states what he saw, then he offers a potential explanation.

He is giving his opinion, as is his right, nothing more.

You seem a bit touchy about the prospect of traffic shaping being active and customers knowing about it. Let's face it had to happen sooner or later, those Allot NetEnforcer AC-1000 series boxes had to get exercise eventually.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Indeed

The fact is they are there, Turned on, And warming up. NTL will not have spent all that money on buying them, then having them installed, Without the intention of using them. My feeling now are if they are only used between 6.00pm and 11.00pm then no harm done. I am also under the impression that its only p2p upload that is affected.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

if its only upload and they are on here then that would indicate it was upload saturation which confuses me since I can always max my upstream any time of the day and ntl are increasing upstream allowance on the middle tier, I was also told by a few different people upstream utilisation was normal and not overutilised. But it happened again tonight, 6pm big speed boost latency dropped.

---------- Post added at 18:55 ---------- Previous post was at 18:54 ----------

evidence from within ntl? to say its on now no, and if yes I wouldnt be able to disclose anyway.

But like the other 2 guys have said the hardware is in place.

I only have evidence of my own experiences and the pattern doesnt fit in with what I would expect to happen on a unshaped connection.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

The speed test here is giving mixed results today, between 5MB - 8MB however when I download from a newsgroup I'm getting full speed

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

its stopped now speed remaining slow in the evening again.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

NTL 2MB

It's no surprise I'm in my 30 day cancellation period; the service in terms of speed, amongst other things, has been poor in the evenings for well over a month now.

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

:angel: Bump :angel:

* Cough * Cardiff Headend * Cough * * trial * Cough * Next Week *

sorry sore throat ;)

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

Better call the plumber, seems to be some leaks somewhere ;) :erm:
Thanks for the info, shame you couldn't be more vague though :p:

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

:LOL:

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 

I think this has come back with a vengeance. :(