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There are breakthrough clans its just a lot of the leagues play spearhead and have done for longer. Breakthrough only really brings a couple of different maps and the Liberation game type

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and how you know that fanny was my mothers sister???? think you;ve been doing this too long your getting pyshic

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lol lol

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so as its scaleo P i could swap mother board for one that has a PCI-e slot or would AGP be better does it make any difference??? would anyone else bother doing this??? just that games like battllefield 2 don't work too well and i'm guessing this is the kinda thing i've gotta do?? correct or utterly wrong??

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yes better graphics is needed

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your machine is a scaleo p. okies :) this board should do the trick then http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/98335 .

and at least you dont have to worry about low profile graph cards which are a pita to find.

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ok and the other motherboard that docdutch pointed out you would be able to have a PCI-e or AGP card connected??

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on a little side note I built a table top arcade game system today using an old pc and an adapter that turns the joystick and buttons to usb.Ill post pictures tomorrow its still in bits. Its going to run MAME in 2 player mode with 1000's of games

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doesn't say on there that it has PCI-e ports or AGP i'm just probably being annoying now i know. They should make it harder for simple people like me to get in these things and ask loads of idiot questions

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only pci-express Smiffer. cheaper nowadays then AGP.

go on Zing recommend him some nice graph cards you know you want to ;)

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thats an atx board not a matx are you sure that would fit? you could buy the asrock twin board and have both agp and pci-e for 40 quid if that will fit

X1800xt for about 150 quid x1900xt about 220<<< both pci e

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ok think i got most of that zinglebarb but pictures would help, i can appricate looking but the explaining part and understanding comes difficult

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Ow and Zing that does sound good mate :) would love to see piccies of that and in use as well :D

whats going to be your price for the unit or could i be a beta tester :D :P

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ok too technical to many letters and not enough meaning registering in my brain!! any chance that laymans terms goona come out to explain??

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what you need pics of ? graphics cards or the board too?

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well there ment to be worth quite a bit

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no was on about pics of your prototype arcade machine. still in cuckoo land with motherboard as you said summat about ones matx not atx and then got hoplessly lost up my bum and couldn't find the light switch!!!!

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speccies of the pc are: 373mm high x 200 wide x 435 mm depth so the board should fit afaik.

Smiffer. heres a nice linkie to the X1900xt http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...k_Only_25.html

zing is prolly going to shoot me for oc website tho. theres a 1900xt 256mb going for 164.49 incl vat.

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http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...00_Series.html top card

or

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...00_Series.html 3rd or 6th card

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Product...9&GroupID=1087 this mobo

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smiffer where bouts in the UK are you mate.... cuz our friend Zing here is a top builder and upgrader of pc so give him a bit of your hard earned cash and Zing will prolly be able to build you something nice

ps zing the commision is 10% :P

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is that board size or size of machine?

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just another stupid question probably but this one--->OcUK Galaxy GeForce 7900 GS OC SILENT 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-043-OK) says in got 512mb is that better plus bit cheaper

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live in nottingham

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its the machine Zing. http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/Resou.../463260357.pdf (details..bit little from siemens but still)

smiffer that is a nice card, I myself prefer ati but thats personal opinion, the Nvidia cards I've had always had something wrong with the drivers.

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thats not that far im near coventry more gfx ram will not compensate for the much better x1900xt card even with only 256 meg remember this card was top of its game not very long ago and cost 350 quid the 7900GS was never a top card only a cut down version of the lowest of its core type (I think lol )

No to that card dude

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Sapphire X1600 Pro 512MB DDR2 AVIVO TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-115-SP)

Not that i'm mocking all the time you've gave me but my missus would have horses (nevermind kittens) if i spent around £160 on a graphics card. so kinda thinking budget!! whats this like??? or would you say save the pocket money i'm aloud??

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how much is that?

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Stretch to the x1800gto and ill let you off

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<STRONG><FONT face=Arial>(£82.24 Including VAT at 17.5%)

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thast still about £120 you know how much i paid for my 128mb geforce 5200??? a wholesome £45!!!

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and it wasnt worth that however if you can stretch to the x1800 gto or better still the xt you are getting value for money. Trust me mate :)

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so the x1800xt is the one to get. can you really tell the difference??

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lol only just a lot its all in the pipes lol

when you get it download the toyshop demo from ATI its wicked

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and the x1800xt the 512mb version could you tell difference between that and the 256mb??

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not massively not as much as a difference between the 1600pro and 1800xt lol

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its all in the pipes??? is that just a saying or does it mean summat

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it does mean something its pixel pipelines theres a lot more on the x1800xt to the x1600 pro

the x1650xt is the best of the x16xx cards and thats not as good as the x1800gto according to micromarts review this week

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ok so just to sort it i need:-
Asrock 775DUAL-VSTA motherboard skt775 VIA PT880 1066FSB PCI-E AGP 8x SATA RAID LAN ATX (Dual core & compatible)
and;
Connect3D ATI Radeon X1800 XT 256MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-044-CO)

and thats all i can remove my processor from this motherboard and slot it straight into top motherboard, laugh at old geforce 5200 and play any game i want

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you already got ddr 2 ram aint ya?its an intel chipset on the board you have isnt it? are you reformating?you will have to install drivers too

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theres not a x1650xt on overclockers, theres a 1650 pro is that the one??

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dunno about the ddr ram got an everest report where do i look as thers a hell of a lot of it

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motherboard spd

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Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Type DDR
Type Detail Synchronous
Size 512 MB
Speed 400 MHz
Total Width 64-bit
Data Width 64-bit
Device Locator Slot-1
Bank Locator Channel A
[ Memory Devices / Slot-3 ]
Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Type DDR
Type Detail Synchronous
Speed 400 MHz
Device Locator Slot-3
Bank Locator Channel A
[ Memory Devices / Slot-2 ]
Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Type DDR
Type Detail Synchronous
Speed 400 MHz
Device Locator Slot-2
Bank Locator Channel B
[ Memory Devices / Slot-4 ]
Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Type DDR
Type Detail Synchronous
Speed 400 MHz
Device Locator Slot-4
Bank Locator Channel B


Does that tell you anything cuz it don't to me??

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now that alters things hold on

theres an asrock board with ddr 1 and ddr II ram slots and pci e and agp slots on it but the site where i bought one is down at the mo so i cant link you

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http://www.asrock.com/product/775Twins-HDTV%20R2.0.htm this board will do the job if you can find one

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or this one http://www.asrock.com/product/775Dual-880Pro.htm

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ok got that added to favorites does that mean i've gotta purchase some different ram then??

downloaded that toyshop thing worked ok

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here there is one http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Product...&source=Kelkoo

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so would i need to but anything else apart from mother board and graphics card???

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not with that board

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sorry would i need to *BUY*

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so my ram in the board i've got now would just swapp over with everything else?? what else is there on a motherboard that needs swapping over??

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well everything plugs into it. You need to do a bit of research before you tackel this mate its not beyond anyone to do the job but be sure you know what in entails before you start :)

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yeah not gonna do it without finding a how 2 guide. too many things that can go wrong with all the static etc.. can you just give me an approx to the amount of things that plug into it and how long would or should it roughly take??

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ok theres case switches and possibly friont usb/sound ide cpu ram heatsink cables power supply cable x 2 possibly sata cable graphics card possibly other pci devices possibly fan power connectors possibly digital input for rom drives god knows if i missed out its late lol

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ok well thanks very much for your help i'll let you go now picked your brain enough. apart from....HIS ATI Radeon X1950 Pro ICEQ 3 TURBO SILENT Heatpipe 256MB GDDR3 VIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-065-HT) just found this for sameish money and itsthe latest one yeah or no??

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woo... nottingham rules :D

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take found a bit of a red dog on the forum then!!!!

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not sure as its not an xt ill have to research

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ok thanks catch you next time i wanna ask questions thanks again!!!

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Another question being thrown someones way!!! been reading some old threads and found one about another graphics card installation etc etc.. and they where on baout fitting a new power supply to it. would that be the case with my issue??

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use what you have and see if its good enough

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ok maybe dumb but how would you know if it isn't??? and please don't say if it starts smoking turn it off quick

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well the system would struggle to power everything. If your just running 1 or 2 hard drives 1 optical drive and the card unless its a seriously rubbish psu it will work.One thing to watch for is if your mobo now has a 20 pin and the new one demands a 24 pin atx power supply.If you fancy a day out ill do it all for you for a nominal charge.?(unless of course your 200 miles away then you should maybe find someone closer lol )

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My nvidia displays a nice warning when it's not getting enough power... something along the lines of certain features being disabled due to lack of power. You click OK, and another pop-up appears to replace it just as quickly.

That's how I knew it was time to replace my PSU (shame cause it was a very nice, virtually silent Antec 380W, but it just didn't want to work with my card :()