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:erm: wasnt towny actually being nice to you????
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The bit I don't get is that everywhere I go I tend to get good deals or people have been nice to me. For some reason I do not get the level of service I'm accustomed to with NTL.
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No-one has ever denied that NTL's CS has had problems. We agree with you on that. Only 9 people out of 54 have voted that they have 'never' had any trouble.
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- if you get away with it. then good luck;) |
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if someone was a right ba*tard to me on the phone, id be polite, to the point and do no more than i absolutley had to. someone is nice - hell, even normal - id do whatever i could for them, including bending a few rules to get it sorted...... a lesson for ya perhaps.... |
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I've tried to cancel my services and have been offered retention deals which I have accepted. However, there will be a time when I will cancel my service altogether with NTL. Thanks to BT for saving a small fortune on my telephone bill, this actually finance my NTL package. |
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or you could just continue to bemoan the service you get.....your choice really :shrug: |
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well.. apart from the long hold times (i did call the day the bill arrived.. which was probably a mistake..) they have always been polite and sorted out my problems immediately.
I've had a fair few worse telephone customer service experiences from other companies too be sure! |
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I noticed something interesting in the poll above. Out of 5 people that (AFAIK) are NTL employees and voted, only one voted that he/she had no trouble with the service.
3 voted generally OK, and one agreed with UDT that it is 50/50 |
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I've had good experiences and bad with NTL CS but UDT at the end of the day coming to a site like this or .com and relentlessly whining and crying and throwing your dummy out of the pram will get you nowhere.
Annoying other members or posting derisory remarks about them will just make people ignore you or post just to have a go at you. |
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Mark, read my posts properly and then get back to me. I have no time for people unable to read my posts without adding their imagination to it as well. Thanks for your last paragragh. This only highlights CSRs unprofessional behaviour. A good CSR should still be helpful to an abusive customer, otherwise he is no better than the abusive customer himself. |
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So, UDT, in your (presumably) customer facing rule, are you equally helpful to all your customers? Or do you help some more than others? Edit: Was typing this while bexy posted. |
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hang on just one second mr udt person, saying that what mark said higlighted the unprofessionalism of ntl csrs.............is saying that he will not be willing to help abusive customers....or am i mis-interepreting you again? |
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UDT you need to get a grip and stop the relentless, pointless moaning. People might listen to you then. Being rude solves nothing, sometimes it pays to be nice and to listen. Its how we learn. It costs nothing to be considerate of others, it also takes very little effort to stop behaving like a spoilt child. Quote:
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you know what i have dealt with loads of abusive customers and i have always managed to calm them down, and have also gone out on a limb to sort out their problem, i have gone that extra mile, however you have already told me that my cs skills are no way as advanced as yours, therefore i must conclude that you don't just go that extra mile, you are willing to go to the ends of the earth just to calm an abusive/or maybe even a normal customer.......
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Don't be too surprise in future if I just give you a repeated quote reply. I very much doubt whether you have the competance to calm a customer down. You're just repeating what I've said earlier on good customer service skills. Again, I noted your imagination taking over again on imagining things you think I said. :rolleyes: |
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Wow, you have stunned me with the maturity, depth and sheer amount of thought you put into your post UDT.
Thankyou for putting so much into your response and for voicing so eloquently your viewpoint. I marvel at your wisdom. There are so many ways that I would like to respond to your post with but many would get me banned or this thread closed so in parting....... grow up. |
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i say i am a philosopher, that is because i am....i have both an a level and a degree in it...just because you can't explain yourself properly don't you dare start putting me down Quote:
as for me having competence, you dont know me and you know what i am beginning to see that you are not worth discussing anything with |
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If you like I could further explain how you misinterpreted my posts in greater detail. |
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History? Jamaica? Well that makes as much sense as many of your responses I supose.
If Bex can't read your posts properly it's because your grammar sucks. try reading your own posts when you get your head out of your .... |
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i see not only am i not as good as you in regards to customer service im also an idiot because i didnt study a course that you deem to be worthwhile..... can i please just point out that all those disciplines you have mentioned are covered in philosophy, i tell you what mr high and mighty, why don't you go and buy a book on elementary logic and see if you can work it out.... or buy an philosophy text and then you tell me that its not an impressive subject.... you are the ONLY person who i have ever spoken to who has put down philosophy sorry i cant type im laughing too much.....you seriously are the funniest person i have ever meet |
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Yes they are and they are also the sign of a lazy, ignorant, small minded, egotistical fool who has no grip of the English language.
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Anyway, I'm off to bed.
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i have a friend who has a phd in physics - yet he is on the dole, so whats your point? in every possible subject you are going to have people who really deserved their degree, and some who leave you wondering they must have paid for it. its just a personal opinion, but nowadays i feel the most important thing about general degrees is the fact that that person has devoted 3 yrs + of their lives to study, in order to better themselves. that is something they have to work for and naturally should be rewarded. So dont be so ignorant to put someones hard work and effort down just because you, the lord god almighty, dont like the subject. I keep hearing of all this training in customer care you have done, how you are the 'big i am' wherever it is that is unlucky enough to employ you - how you know how to do things the 'right' way :blah: :blah: SO mr hot shot - WHAT courses have you been on? WHAT do you do as a job that enables you to give customer service like its manna from the heavens? do YOU have a degree in some mind bendingly difficult subject that allows you to look down your beaky nose in distain upon all others? no, wait, wasting my time here arnt i? asking you to be open and back yourself up?....i must be losing the plot cos as sure as night follows day EVERYONE HERE KNOWS you simply cant do that..... Oh, and one other thing.... you mentioned earlier - id better quote you else youd accuse me of 'imagining you saying things' again :rolleyes: - Quote:
surely its not a matter of WHERE a person works that depends on the standard of customer service (unless you are a bigoted fool of course) surely you can recieve outstanding customer service from a barman in a reed bar on the beach in the tropics? any reasonable man (ha!) would realise that its simply how well that person offers you that particular service.......... :walk: :walk: |
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:rofl: Best fed troll I ever saw! :Peace: :Peaceman:
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must be about to burst its belly by now :eeek: |
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2) A degree in whatever course is usually regarded as a sign of a good education. You could also argue that degrees in all the classic subjects (english, history, geography etc.) are useless but they generally show intelligence of some sort. Maybe this girl just wasn't good at her job. Maybe there was some other reason she didn't do the job well, but I doubt she was "thick as shiite". 3) As Mark says, you have criticised bexy for having a Philosophy degree, what qualifications to you have? I have a degree in Computing Science in case you ask. |
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UDT, how dare you put down a job applicant for not being able to spell Jamaica when you have such a tenuous grasp of written English yourself? Your grammar is absolutely appalling, and is all the more perplexing because your spelling is normally perfectly fine. Is English not your first language? Are we all misunderstanding you due to some cultural difference we don't know about? Or are you really just a mindless troll? Please don't make me post my troll piccie in this thread. I will if I have to, but I would rather we had a constructive discussion. |
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good posts mark and stu.....still can't rep either of you damn the rep system :p
udt i admit you made me hopping mad last night, by basically ****ging off my degree, i do not think that you actually know anything about philosophy......it is a difficult degree...i don't care what you think........ and btw udt when i mentioned being a philosopher it was in a lighthearted way was actually trying to lighten the mood |
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repped u and mark :p |
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Just to get back onto the subject at hand :LOL:
I have found NTL CS to be 50/50 - it all depends on who you get.... (For the record :notopic: I have no degree - I have spend 10+years working it TS/CS/Whatever you want to call it these days :) ) Thankfully I rarely have to call CS, as I am a computer techy (nerd :D) and can normally diagnose the fault myself (or by using this forum or similar ones). When I do call them, I find that if I know exactly what the problem is likely to be you get either "ok sir, we'll look into that" and a solution (if I get it right - I ain't perfect you know :shocked: ) or "sorry sir, but it must be a problem your end, you have a network - oh, we don't support networks" :afire: .. If they could get consistancy I would be happy, but, like all support environments you get good and bad. Just my 2c - and remember - do not feed the troll :argue: |
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ok here we go again , i had a problem with e-mail today , i couldnt see why and server status said nothing so i rang c.s. , she put me through to t.s. and i waited no more than 5 mins , talked to the bloke and he suggested to go into webmail and delete a couple of posts and then try outlook express , hey presto , problem sorted , one for the memory banks , and no snottiness on there part just good quality service , top marks ntl :)
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NTL is making a big thing out of being able to report any fault by dialling 150 from an NTL phone. It's plastered all over my bill each month. This means increasing numbers of internet problems going initially to CS and then transferred to Cable Modem Support.
I don't know why they do this, presumably it helps them route calls more efficiently. |
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for pitys sake dont you start as well :Peace: , nah only kidding , i only rang c.s. in case there was something that hadnt been put up on the server status page , anyway doing it that way it didnt cost me to ring t.s. did it , anyway problem sorted :cool: |
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hahaahhaahahahahaahaahhahaa , only kidding :) |
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I'm gutted Emperor Ming. :rolleyes: |
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This is against the ToS on this site. However, they (the Mods) tend to allow these insults if someone does continually post negative messages about NTL. |
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No, I had not seen that. Ming, you WILL refrain from posting such insults like that. This thread is always going to be a hot potato but plenty are joining in without resorting to name-calling like that. Back to nice-guy mode now :D |
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me finds it strange how a stranger should pop up and post summat like what he did , oooooooooopppppppps there goes me gramma again , maybe a grain of truth , mind you i would not for one minute say he/she was right or wrong , just an observation on my part :nono: |
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ok maybe ming shouldnt have been so obvious but udt you have been being rude to so many people..u can't suddenly start taking offense
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Anyway - my own experience with ntl customer services is generally bad - most times they say they are going to change my service - then just don't do it. Still - customer services have always been angelic compared to tech support in my experience ('why not call tech support 1st' - because I'm normally on hold for 45 - 50 mins) - only to be disconnected and have to call again. I only have ntl broadband now... which I hope to get rid of soon as my local exchange has been upgraded. |
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ok udt i am not going to be too petty but u cussed my degree last night, yet you don't always seem to have a good grip on the english language....
I've been suspended for far less than, what Ming did Selective reasoning I think. |
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I have removed the post in question, can we now please keep to the topic.
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is this going anywhere now or are we all just ' troll feeding ' , just curious that is all
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I guess i've just been increadibly unlucky with my customer services experience.
I refuse to believe that ntl are ALL bad. |
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they are not , no i dont work for ntl but i can honestly say i have never had a problem with them :) |
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Can a Mod tell me what was so "offensive" (via pm) after reading this whole sorry saga of trolling I said what I felt, this should have nipped in the bud ages ago.
to any that were offended my sincere apologies remember there are a lot of people who just read and do not feel the need to post, all the time Regards your lord and master Ming |
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PM'ing you now....
and you ain't my lord and master :D |
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And by the way you started to whinge when it wasn't going your way - and people posted their opinions of you. What a very smart person you are - not. But - I do look forward to more or your posts - if nothing else they do make me laugh. At you. |
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anyway to get back on topic.....i think i can only remember one occasion when the person i have spoken to was not as helpful as i would have liked, but i was in a awful mood because i had been up till 3am the night before, cos dad had buggered up the pc and i was fixing it, but it was sorted in the end :D as i think i mentioned before, i have found that generally i don't need to contact cs as much as i used to, because if i hve a problem i find i can normally discover the solution or someone who can help on this forum....so a big :tu: to the admins/mods/ntl workers here |
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Have a nice day ;) |
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PS As I shown before, I can do better without them cocking things up. :welcome: |
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I can only suggest you are allowed the oppurtunity to express your opinions freely as long as you do so in a constructive way. Only the mods and admins can give you that permission though
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or is it u want to **** ntl off? can;t you just drop it p.s dont copy and paste that post about if i want your adivce.....blah blah blah |
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:LOL: This thread just gets better;
Having read large parts of it am I the only one to have concluded that UDT must work for BT - think about it - he is constantly defending a second rate competitor to NTL. As I have previously pointed out - my experience of BT is engineers that don't seem to realise that for a phone to work you must first re-connect any wires you previously disconnected, and a fault center that says I must wait three days for a repair even though it was their fault. On the other hand, my experience of NTL is a very helpful TS department that responded to my phone call within 3 minutes, went through a quick process to determine that my Cable Modem had indeed died and arranged for it to be replaced - and an engineer who turned up, as booked, the following morning, replaced the faulty modem and stayed for another 20 minutes to make sure it picked up and functioned correctly. Of course, I realise this now means I must be a secret NTL employee, so I will sit back and await my second salary. :D |
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so UDT is your last post an example of how you 'rise above it accordingly'? Or just you acting like my 3yr old boy?
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If you were astute, which you are not, you would of realised I'm the type of person who would expect a decent level of service or materialised goods. I do not wish to be dragged down by people used to second best. Second best s not or me. I don't care what other people think of me as they are usually wrong in any case. So Bexy, another psychological problem are those who drag people down to their level. Usually, these people are of the envious nature, tend to live second rate lives, work in second rate jobs, have second rate looks..... |
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PEM, it is obvious you have problems with your conclusions. It is either that or you completely misguided. |
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you see you told ming of for being rude to you, yet you are just as rude..... i find you condescending and rude......people have offered you help and yet you are too high and mighty and too full of yourself to accept peoples help.... you are the one whom is losing out and not us pem you now are in the club :p |
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Misguided about what ? Please explain instead of making one line comments that don't actually say anything. |
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Funny how you claim she drags other people down to her level because of the above. Are you not doing the same? Also it is odd that "second best is not for me" (well, you) and yet you have paid for NTL for years, despite getting a second rate service from them. I know you said that the savings you make from using BT pay for your NTL stuff, but it still costs you because if you didn't use the savings to pay for NTL, you could use them for something else. |
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I have never met Bexy and wouldn't dream of making remarks like that about someone I had never met. I like to think my parents raised me to respect other people. UDT, you should put aside your pride and offer Bexy an apology. |
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Well like scastle I have met bexy - and a very nice person she is too. :D
I cannot believe that UDT is using this thread to have a go at anyone who dares to question his biased stance against NTL and make derogatory personal comments against fellow forum members when all we are trying to do is share our experiences - good or bad - of the company! I think UDT should apologise too. (Awaits flaming from the biased one) |
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