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Well I've watched a total of less than 15 minutes of it since it started, so it is difficult to judge. Certainly, I'll be glad if it is a big Christmas stunt aimed at conning the viewers - I have made very clear what I think about the idea of doing this to a bunch of genuine contestants.

A letter in this morning's Metro (Scotland edition) alleges that the contestant with the mad hair has been seen on a National Blood Transfusion service advert, which if true would suggest they are all in fact actors. We shall have to wait and see.

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That is an increasingly more likely possibility.

But... How are we being hoaxed?

You mean they really are in Russia training for space?
Or are we supposed to get satisfaction out of their stupidity only to find out they were all acting (badly) anyway?

I can't see what the 'twist' would be if the audience was the 'target'.

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See post #90.

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So, either you wrote in to Metro, or you're not the only one who thinks so!

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Some of them did look genuinely upset when they mentioned that. However, there are 3 gravity generators (invented just in time for the show) attached to the 'shuttle' in order to err, generate gravity.

Besides, once it's all over, they'll get to ride the vomit comet, which will give them weightlessness. That'd be one trip I'd really love to do!

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I think you can go on a flight in the mig that they used to hunt down u2's. That goes so far up you are almost in space but don't feel any weightlessness. With all the hype I guess it would be easy to belive it. And they have picked people that don't know a lot about space travel etc.

I'd be crap on there as I've been a space enthusiast all my life, seen a shuttle launch etc.

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Yep here it is not cheap £11,600 :Yikes:
http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/searc...uctCode=8MIGFL

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To be fair if you didnt know anything about space travel, it would be plausible to believe that you wont be effected by weightlesssness if you are travelling to the fringes of space. But surely on take off when you dont feel any gforces, you will have to rumble it and realise you're not going anywhere. Thats why tonights episode will be must see TV for me

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They have told the muppets that this shuttle launches horizontally and does experience the same G force!! All part of the 'power of suggestion'.

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They enter the space shuttle tonight. It should definately be interesting to see if any of them realise anything.

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when you take off in a conventional plane you still feel some forces when the plane lifts off, and thats maintained for a while. I cannot for the life of me see how this will be replicated on tonights show.

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It's basically a big version of the fairground simulators. If you feel like you in a Red Arrow at the fairground (even though you know you are in a simulator) just imagine being in a simulator that you think is real. It's basically an elaborate card trick - if you're conditioned to expect something and believe it enough, your mind convinces you it's really happening!

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If they have some control of the seats via inflatable air cushions and tightening of the straps I'm sure it will be believable.

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Many of the simulators use hydraulics in the seats and the main body of the simulator to provide movement which, accompanied by the right noises, makes the experience lifelike. If there are external views then video complements the other effects to give a touch of realism.

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You can view it online:-
http://www.blood.co.uk/pages/flashAdvert5L.htm


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they should just make the launch that loud and jerky that it blocks out their ability to concentrate on their other senses.

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hmmm very suspicious.

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I wouldn't have thought so. If you wanted your 15 minutes of fame, in addition to applying to reality TV shows, would it not also make sense to apply for roles as extras in other TV programs/ads?

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It doesn't really matter about the blood man, as he wasn't selected to go 'into space'. I very much doubt C4 would go to these lengths to dupe the audience.

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I think it does matter - if he is an actor, even though we have been told he isn't, doesn't that mean the rest of them probably are?

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What were they wearing!! I mean those kinky white suits?

I see a Capricorn One happening!

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Lauch day!!

This should be fun

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I like that Total Inability To Start or TITS up

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These people are going to feel REALLY stupid when they find out the truth...

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Launch was a bit Naff

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Agreed, but they look like they may have got away with it though. :D

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I like the idea of a moth in space!
Not much to look at in the launch - probably had to be there :D
The three muppets certainly looked like they believed it. :D

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they had no sound in the ship (shed) at the launch , that is why they where looking like they had just left for the shops . lol but still good .

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One of the guy's looks like he seems to be sussing it out and piecing things together in my opinion.
So are they meant to be spending the night in this fake shuttle then ?

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The next 5 nights!
The guy in the back right seat at take off has sussed it IMHO.

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Yea the 'Val Kilma' look a like does look like he's thinking about things.

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The rather shaky take off, i.e. the craft moving but with no sound, the one bit that they've really spent a fortune on all the effects, not going to plan, will have been a major hole in the illusion. If they don't sus it from that, they never will.

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Yes thats the one.
All this in flight waffle going on about getting a tractor to take out the ship LMAO. Th epilots were really trying to save themselves and get a cover story quickly.

I cant see them lasting much longer, especially in that cramped shuttle. What are they going to do all this time just sitting in their seats.

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They have a plan of experiments to perform.

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it was and the previous night we'rent we told it was going to be a 'live launch' - bollards. what a load of rubbish.

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Yup, looks like it !

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But if they do suss it, will they blow the whistle or just go along with it?

And I think you can classify anything upto 15 minutes old as 'live TV' so it could have been live within those boundaries.

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Didn't the presence of a moth in the barn prevent them from showing projected images at launch? Also did anyone see/hear charlie the actor mumbling about wanting money paid to his agent or he will blow the mission apart. come on charlie, get up and spill the beans man!!

That was the biggest anticlimax to a show EVER. what a load of rubbish!

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I think the best way to end it to show them various Horror films (Alien) and then get somebody dressed up like an alien to burst in and scare the c**p out of them.

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LOL @ David.Ewles. That would be funny.



Yes what was that mumbling all about ? They didnt even go into detail with it.
The anoying thing with this show is they seem to promise us lots of great things, but it doesnt seem to really deliver.

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The "astronauts" are mumbling on about a space walk. No idea how they are going to attempt to fake that. Or maybe that is how the "joke" is to be ended, they step out the spacecraft in full suit to be greeted by a pile of cameras :disturbd:

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That's because once he made his 'demand', he immediately said it was a joke and didn't mean it.

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I have all the episodes so far on my Sky+. Is it worthwhile watch them or is it pretty crap?

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it was building up to a 'live' launch which turned out to be pretty pathetic tv - no view out of the shuttle windows as they were blacked out and only at the end of the program did Jonny explain they were not going to see out for "the money shot" of space as they had a moth in the warehouse.

utterly crap TV. lots of 'special effects' were supposed to be used but in the end we just saw them from a perspective where there was no thrill for us and no view out into 'space'.

how about being honest with the audience instead of calling it live and how about getting it right or not bothering at all?

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Very negative post there, but i would disagree, it is entertaining and just because it wasnt as dramatic a launch as you would have liked it sounds like you have been taken in a bit to much by the shows premise.

Surely you didnt expect a fully fledged shuttle to launch them did you - what were you expecting?

The idea of the show is not to fool you its to fool the participants and to take the mickey out of them as well - something which is very hard to do - and to be frank they have done a superb job with it so far bar a couple of technical hitches - which they have brilliantly worked their way round with some very quick thinking - after 3 weeks of them not only still being in the Uk instead of Russia and having been through all that "training", the majority have no idea and only possibly one of the crew has suspisions outwith the actor - an amazing achievement in itself.

The show could be blown at any minute remember - and they are all flying quite literally by the seat of their pants.

I would recommend watching it if you have them on your Sky+ for sure.

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The thing is I now think that a few of them have sussed it out....and they are not saying anything as they dont want to blow whatever they have coming to them......If they think back to things like Big Brother, once they have completed a task they get a reward so they are probably keeping quiet so that they win their money.

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Go for it. At least that way you can fast forward past Johhny and the ads, and any other naff bits.

The big launch night was just full of things that ought to have given the game away. When they went to see the orbiter, there was just too much 'fog' and the technicians in lab coats were out of place - the fully suited ones looked much better. All in all, it just looked like a SFX shot for a film. Which is how some of them described it afterwards.

I thought the view of the control room was disappointing - never really got a good look at it, so no idea how convincing (or not) that was.

Starting with the suiting up, it started to look naffer by the minute. Those white packs they were carrying - that's just like Apollo, right? Wrong - then they were portable life-support units - designed to keep them comfortable in their suits until they could plug into the CM's life support system - i.e. those cases never went into the space craft. But the cadets were carrying these things, with no connection between them and it - shouldn't they have been asking themselves what they were for?

On boarding the craft, Keri nearly made the set come apart. They'd have done well to have told them how to get in (i.e. sitting down) - perhaps some training would have been a good idea? And what happened to the safety briefing? You even get one of those on a 1 hour flight on a plane!

Once on board, why didn't they wonder why none of the cables/hoses on their suits were connected up to anything? They should have at least included a comms loop - I mean shouting to each other over the engine noise is not very 'space' - is it.

And if you're going to wear a space suit, with helmet and visor, wouldn't you expect to actually close the visor at some point before launch?

During the early launch sequences (i.e. when the sound/motion didn't seem to match what was supposed to be happening!) some of the cadets looked worried (scared?) - was that fear of the flight, or the realisation that they'd been taken for fools?

My favourite bit though, was Charlie's bit of blackmail.

Make sure you're watching with the sound turned up properly, otherwise you'll miss those wonderful sound effects. Shame they had to have music all over that sequence too - it made it that much harder to get a sense of what it actually sounded like on board.

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They'll have to be very sure of it being a hoax before they declare it as such. Otherwise they'll be too scared to look even more stupid.

BTW - last night Johhny said, about the other 7, that they were already £5K richer - I thought it was per day? If not, then the reward for being made to look stupid on telly isn't that good after all.

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They played the launch again yesterday without any music, just the sound the astronumpties would have heard........AND IT STILL SOUNDED CRAP. they hadnt even realised they were in "the air" so it couldnt have been that realistic. However I reckon these guys are so thick, if they had been told they'd be teleporting into space they'd have believed it

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I was watching it at 1am this morning, the 'Val kimar' guy looked upset.

sounded like dried dog food being thrown on to a transit van, (soory meteor shower:disturbd: )

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Supposedly there is a DVD coming out too. I wonder who on earth will buy it.

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Hmmm.

http://www.performersdirectory.co.uk/extrasgirls.html

Scroll down and look for Keri Hassett, makes one think again who the joke is on, feeling it could be the viewers.

jj

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Hi and welcome.:)

They did say one would be an actor, to try and smooth out any questions ;)

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Hi, and thanks for the welcome.

yeah, Charlie is the admitted actor amongst the four of em. They all seem too relaxed, may be just the way i see it.

jj

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What, they said one of the genuine contestants would be an actor? Aside from the three that were declared to be actors?

Thing is, you now have a situation where two of the 'contestants' are, it seems, no stranger to the performing arts. However, that said, the evidence is only for them appearing in 'extras' type roles. It is well known that these are the very sorts of people who most avidly apply for these sorts of TV shows. They may yet be genuine contestants.

I still hope that it is all a set up for the viewers though. I watch them apparently being taken in by this deception and thinking they are having life-changing experience and they aren't, and I find it all a bit sad. (I decided to give the thing a chance and watched the whole episode last night. Aside from being quite staggeringly boring and obviously drawn out to make at best 20 minutes of VT fill an hour of telly, My views on the exploitative nature of this show - assuming it is genuine - have not changed. :( )

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TBH i cant bring myself to watch it, ide rather pull my own fingernails out with plyers :erm:

Maybe you are right, it could be that it is just a show with actors,
mmmmmmm :doh:

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Its has some great funny bits in it though.
I wish I was in there with them. It seems fun.

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You may well be right.

From http://www.channel4.com/entertainmen...ory.jsp?id=267 :

So perhaps all the contestants attended an 'audition' for the show?

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The double hoax theory is still around about all them being actors.
Kerri is on an acting agency list on the internet and another one was in a blood advert, and a football video.

Althuogh they may be wannabee actors, I dont think they know about it and are acting. I just think they are people who really want to be on TV so they may have had previous auditions or work.

They reveal all to the other cadets tonight.

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But I just don't see the point in it being a double-bluff and all the contestants knowing what's happening and the viewers are the ones mis-led.

Usually in these types of things, the contestants are made fools of, and then get a pile of cash to ease the pain.

I don't think the public will care enough to think 'oh, they fooled me - the little minxes. Where's my cash?'.

Personally I thought last nights show was great with Charlie being handed a couple of ready made balloon sculptures and Paul (I think it was him) entertaining himself in the middle of the night with 'parp' cartoons and eating all the food.

I think some of you are thinking about it far too much. Just accept it for what it is - a bit of light entertainment.

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What complete and utter pap. Just how stupid and gullible are these people :erm:

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Initially I was very surprised that they could FIND people this dense. Anyway I watched the first two and haven't bothered since.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4530608.stm

The viewing figures have crapped out...

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Charlie is funny.
I've started watching it so I'm going to see it out til the end. It better be a good ending.

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He's possibly the best reason to watch it :)

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Charlie has a great personality. I should imagine girls would find him very attractive because of his humour and general good time attitude.


The best show was a couple of nights ago when they eventually got the space view which was an amazing 'effect' and even impressed me. The rest of the show is fairly crap.

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I'm not too sure about that - let's face it, to get the sense of humor and good attitude, they would have to ignore the fact that he looks like a weasel ;)

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and don't forget he is a bit thick. a few episodes ago he actually said he believed that he was in fact in a real training centre really preparing for a flight to space. Well that was the reason he gave for asking the lecturer a dodgy question.

Isn't he one of the actors?