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handyman 03-10-2006 18:26

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
Thursday morning here I come also, no need to live in the USA to get it either, Quality American HD telly coming my way.

Tezcatlipoca 03-10-2006 20:51

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
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Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34128806)
But historically I paid my dues to NTL who then paid them to Channel 4 who then paid them to Disney/ABC, it is a timing matter. It is not like if you download music or a film that you would have paid other monies to see / hear. And in all honesty I will probably buy the box set when it comes out (I did with S1 and S2), so where is the revenue loss here?



My thoughts exactly re downloading TV.

I pay my TV licence, & I pay my Sky subscription.

So I see no moral problem with downloading TV episodes which I would be able to watch on my fee-paid TV service. And if the series is not yet broadcast in the UK, then screw the network - if I didn't have to wait months & months I wouldn't download the US broadcasts.

Definitely not the same IMO as downloading an album or movie rather than buying a CD or cinema ticket / DVD.

Hugh 03-10-2006 21:37

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
Some spoilers for season three - read at your own peril :p:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30265

Chris 03-10-2006 23:12

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34129001)
Some spoilers for season three - read at your own peril :p:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30265

I'll happily read any spoilers that come my way from now on. It might save me having to sit through hours of waffle waiting to see if anything's actually going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34128968)
My thoughts exactly re downloading TV.

I pay my TV licence, & I pay my Sky subscription.

So I see no moral problem with downloading TV episodes which I would be able to watch on my fee-paid TV service. And if the series is not yet broadcast in the UK, then screw the network - if I didn't have to wait months & months I wouldn't download the US broadcasts.

Definitely not the same IMO as downloading an album or movie rather than buying a CD or cinema ticket / DVD.

That may be your opinion, but the laws of copyright say otherwise. Were you ever to end up in court for using p2p in this manner, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

Delko 04-10-2006 09:04

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
How do you think will they get out from island one day?

Stuart 04-10-2006 09:08

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34128968)
My thoughts exactly re downloading TV.

I pay my TV licence, & I pay my Sky subscription.

So I see no moral problem with downloading TV episodes which I would be able to watch on my fee-paid TV service. And if the series is not yet broadcast in the UK, then screw the network - if I didn't have to wait months & months I wouldn't download the US broadcasts.

Definitely not the same IMO as downloading an album or movie rather than buying a CD or cinema ticket / DVD.

As Chris says, the laws of copyright disagree with you..

Also, your arguement doesn't apply to any TV series not broadcast over here (say, Lost was dropped due to low viewing figures).

SMHarman 04-10-2006 18:45

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34129189)
As Chris says, the laws of copyright disagree with you..

Also, your arguement doesn't apply to any TV series not broadcast over here (say, Lost was dropped due to low viewing figures).

Yes they do, but the claim i illegally downloaded it, i now owe them compensation for loss of revenue because I downloaded this. What exactly is the loss of revenue here? They still sold it to my broadcaster who I pay my monthly subscription to. If i download Britneys latest album and don't buy it the shop is out $10 and the artist say $1. If I download 'The Guardian' and don't go to see it in a theatre or buy the DVD people are out cash, but as long as my DD to NTL or whoever is taken then they have all the revenue they were going to get for the sale of that show. What is the financial loss and thus restitution payable for that loss in the event of downloading TV that in time you would be subscribed to?

lauzjp 05-10-2006 05:19

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
so where's the season 3 thread / gossip then?! :hyper:

Russ 05-10-2006 08:01

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
The show needs to start first :)

Hugh 05-10-2006 08:04

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lauzjp (Post 34129824)
so where's the season 3 thread / gossip then?! :hyper:

ahem
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34129001)
Some spoilers for season three - read at your own peril :p:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30265


Stuart 05-10-2006 09:07

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lauzjp (Post 34129824)
so where's the season 3 thread / gossip then?! :hyper:

Nothing stopping you starting one..

lauzjp 05-10-2006 09:14

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
bah, i know nothing really - and it is very confusing as apparently there were 'foilers' put out by the lost team... oh well. this is all I have managed to find on season 3 so far!? http://lost.rapnix.com/category/season-3/

Hugh 05-10-2006 09:46

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34129870)
Nothing stopping you starting one..

I've "made it so", Captain.

Tezcatlipoca 05-10-2006 23:55

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34129548)
Yes they do, but the claim i illegally downloaded it, i now owe them compensation for loss of revenue because I downloaded this. What exactly is the loss of revenue here? They still sold it to my broadcaster who I pay my monthly subscription to. If i download Britneys latest album and don't buy it the shop is out $10 and the artist say $1. If I download 'The Guardian' and don't go to see it in a theatre or buy the DVD people are out cash, but as long as my DD to NTL or whoever is taken then they have all the revenue they were going to get for the sale of that show. What is the financial loss and thus restitution payable for that loss in the event of downloading TV that in time you would be subscribed to?

Totally agree with you.


I guess it's the uploading aspect of using P2P - you may be downloading something which you feel you've already paid for by paying ntl etc., but you're also uploading it at the same time, to many other people, who most likely haven't paid ntl or Sky etc.

Except...

You can cap your upload, and also never fully seed when the download is complete, & just leech away. Still some uploading though, but not as much.

And of course P2P is not the only method for obtaining TV eps online. Plenty of newsgroups out there, which you can download TV from at high speeds without having to ever share it with other people.

SMHarman 06-10-2006 20:24

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34130645)
Plenty of newsgroups out there, which you can download TV from at high speeds without having to ever share it with other people.

Which is how i do it.

lauzjp 06-10-2006 21:03

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
i can't get in to newsgroups :dunce:

SMHarman 06-10-2006 23:31

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
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Originally Posted by lauzjp (Post 34131418)
i can't get in to newsgroups :dunce:

You subscribe to easy news or something similar, it has a web based interface where you search for the information you are looking for most ISPs newsgroups do not carry groups that bandwidth intensive. Was that euphamistic enough?

Chris 06-10-2006 23:37

Re: The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS)
 
No need to be euphemistic about it. Most ISPs do not carry the 'binary' newsgroups where people post TV shows, films, CDs etc because ISP newsgroup access is almost always a free add-on. They can't afford the kind of bandwidth involved.


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