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Same number as Farage, Lowe, May, Truss, and Sunak.

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the new pm Andy burnham talks of a new 10 year plan,i wonder how many months this glorious reboot will last

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I think they have about 3 years left before an election.

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he says he's ending rough sleeping

1 who's paying

2 where are they going

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1) Just a guess but probably the tax payers . . unless he severely cuts back on other services.

2) Once the strikes kick in there will be room in the empty bus stops, train stations, doctors surgeries, schools . . .

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10 years . No one's waiting that long. I fear the country would rather see zia Yusuf in that decade. :no: he's meant to be keeping them out :cry:

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Most ten year plans have things delivered during the ten years, not at the end of ten years.

HTH…

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Smurf responded too :rolleyes:

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grasser ,don't mess with the smafia or you'll be sleeping with wrinkled sheets;)

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Don't ruin my sheets lord skidmark :D

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Andy Burnham rows back on plans to increase tax-free personal allowance
The new PM previously hinted that he would unfreeze the personal allowance


wow that took a whole day

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...onal-allowance

Andy Burnham has reportedly rowed back on plans to raise the tax-free personal allowance. The new PM hinted that he could unfreeze the £12,570 personal allowance in an interview just before he entered 10 Downing Street, as he looks to ease the cost of living for Britons.

He said it was "lodged in my mind" as it was “the thing I heard the most on the doorsteps” when campaigning in the Makerfield by-election. But an ally of the Prime Minister told the Financial Times: “There is not any commitment to do it. What he was saying is that people are feeling unheard.”

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I think that’s a pretty desperate attempt by the right wing press to get one over him - and I speak as a sometime fan of the right wing press :D

Saying something is lodged in your mind because people have been talking to you about it isn’t anything like announcing a policy whilst in full possession of the facts (seeing as you’re the sitting PM), and then having to un-announce it because you thought you could just ignore the facts right until they came and slapped you in the face. This is what Starmer did time and time again.

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:woot: I find adding a couple of quid to the already £3 cap gets me a taxi. £2 is good.

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It's probably close to 20 years since I was on a bus, I can't even be bothered to get a bus pass :D

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What's a bus? More chance of winning the lottery than seeing a useful bus service out in the sticks.

The last time I went on a bus around here was 25ish years ago and that was just to get into Cambridge for a pub crawl.

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What's a pub? :D

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i was on a bus last week,fantastic service and free for me,there is a bus about every 8 min all going in the right direction,my first experience as a bus pass customer was dire [the driver was an ahole ]but since then no problems

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I can't remember the last time I went in a pub or how much a pint now costs.

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My wife uses buses a few times a week, so she'll be happy.

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Wasn't it Mahmood who glorified early prison releases? Just make it up as you go along...

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"glorified"?

When was that?

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Maybe not quite glorified :o: more so said with conviction ;)

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When?

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Knock yourself out

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=mahmood+40%25+prison

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OK look not glorified but rather proposed an answer to the issue that there are only ‘x' number of places in prisons with ‘y’ number of people being given custodial sentences.

Something has to give.

Prisons have two functions, punishment (I’m sure it’s not pleasant being locked up), and security, removing a dangerous person from society, so he or she can’t harm anyone else. The latter is a given, but the former, are their alternatives to prison as a punishment?

Now I’m certainly not saying that someone convicted of murdering a family gets a sentence of ‘painting a few walls’; but is there has to be somewhere in between prison and a fine. And I don't know what that might be.

Or, follow the US model and build and staff a lot more prisons.

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Nice try, but no cigar…

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/07/2.gif

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this no 10 north is a bit misleading as far as i can see manchester is further south than cleethorpes which is in the east midlands,it's just a con to work from home,no 10 north should be in newcastle

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York - it’s further north than Cleethorpes, and it’s less than two hours by train…

Anyway, fun fact - Edinburgh is further to the West than Newcastle… :)

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No one sane would follow the US model on prisons anymore than they would on healthcare, where the system is designed to disincentivies rehabilitation and reform over profit, where the prisons actually make people worse after they have entered just to ensure they keep coming back.

Personally I wouldn't let anyone out of prison here who couldn't read or write, what chance does anyone have of achieving anything without these basic skills (unless they have learning disabilities or such like) and I think it might be best to increase sentences no more of this 3 or 6 months business, I'm sure that studies proved if you want to tackle recidivism the sentence has to be 2 years +, no more of this revolving door nonsense.

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Hands up anyone that thinks there's a faint possibility HS2 will now get back on track (ha) for the Manchester connection

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we need all our money to import and care for andys armada of mega dingy migrants,and doorway dwelling junkies,not to mention what coronation street norf will cost

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I've always wondered why, for lower level crimes & non violent offenders who aren't addicted to drugs etc, why they don't effectively put them under house arrest? With the use of tags/spot checks, they are still deprived of their liberty & inconvenienced at little financial cost to society.

Perhaps they could be allowed to go out to work, for medical appointments etc, but nothing more.

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He came to The Hare Inn, in Harlow last week, where he announced the 20% cut in tax for pubs etc

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Record low number of people coming in small boats to date this year. Starmer delivered in two years what the Conservative Party failed to achieve in 14. He was ineffective in getting his message out. Burnham seems to be a far better communicator so I'm sure we'll be hearing about this success in due course.

I'm not sure how tackling the homeless issue will fare and I thought that was an unusual policy to feature first. Tackling the cost of living seemed more in tune with voters' most pressing concerns.

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Has his plans to possibly scrap council tax and stamp duty in favour of a tax on property or land @ 0.48% of value.

I do not see how this works for anyone. Stamp duty lost has to be made up so renters who do not own will have to be paying towards the loss and buyers who have already paid stamp duty will essentially be paying it again over and over


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...tax-new-charge

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Most people will pay less overall. Renters won't be liable to pay anything, it will be the landlords responsibility, so I assume it will be like the General Rates was and will be included/reflected in the rent.

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So for this to work, every property would have to be valued [again] every year ?

Personally, 0.48% of my (supposedly) current house value would be quite a reduction in tax.

... and who knows their "Land value".


---------- Post added at 18:19 ---------- Previous post was at 18:17 ----------

Another article on the same site suggests otherwise anyway.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2233054/

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The idea is that each property is automatically revalued by using software, be it up or down, annually.

Interesting that it's been claimed that the PM isn't considering this after all.

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if they are denying it then they are plotting it

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Lets have a fact here . . they can't really do a successful U-Turn on it until they've almost decided to do it :D

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Don’t be complacent. It’s not true because they are plotting to do both!

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You're not involved in Project Fear are you OB?

I think Andy is absolutely super , a modern day Robin Hood, takes from the South and gives to the North. About time for some proper 'levelling up' :) Intergenerational inequality next...

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I think he's afraid of Reform's vote continuing to slide, Farage looking a by-election muppett and Reform disintegrating when the investigations conclude. And Labour having someone politically competent as PM.

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He's been in office a week and he's already your hero, enjoy the ride :PP:

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I described him as politically competent, not my hero. ;)

He's certainly making the 'look-at-the-polls, Five Homes Farage for PM' brigade somewhat quieter, which is no bad thing. :D

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They're all spivs and shysters, I have no affiliation to any of them.

This means I can either cheer them on or spit at them, depending how they perform . . or not ;)

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They've denied the council tax reforms, as posted, but it was unlikely to happen anyway. It would amount, on average, to a huge tax hike on London and southern England, with a tax cut for the north. Guess where a load of Labour MPs have seats?

Besides. This would only work if you removed social care from councils and funded it nationally. Councils are in charge of social care provision, and that's where the vast majority of your council tax goes. Are your bins being collected less frequently despite council tax increasing? Social care costs.

You wouldn't be able to lopside council tax so drastically without redistributing the increase in income in the south to make up for the drop in the north. Which probably means radically overhauling how it all works in the first place.

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And yet, Farage and Reform are noticeably absent from your spit and/or negative mentions… ;)

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you're so obsessed with them no one else has to bother

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Probably because, as yet, they're not in 'power' so don't affect me.
Another reason could be they're an easy way to get people all frothy about politics ;)

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Peter disowned Jesus the night Jesus was arrested. I wonder if Farage will be arrested soon? ;)

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is he you're messiah :angel:

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No, he's just a very naughty boy :erm::p:

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Two weeks in the job and he's off on his holibobs

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...liday-37512370

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He’s keeping in contact with the office, though. Unlike Boris when he disappeared off to his KGB mate’s Italian villa.

And he’s probably still made more appearances in parliament since being elected than Farage had in the months before he quit.

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or he's got the job he's been scheming for and now he's buggered off,maybe he's practicing walking on water or planning something special with a couple of fish and five loaves of warburtons

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We still talking about bozo...

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Politicians usually have a holiday around this time; pretty much every PM does in the summer. Starmer didn't do it the first summer because riots had kicked off, but did do so the following summer.

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Defence Secretary Wes Streeting is facing questions after accepting £37,500 in donations from a left-wing think tank, just a month after the think tank received a large sum from a crypto-fraudster.

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv...-crushing-blow

crypto fraudster eh who'd of thunk it

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No UK Political Party (or "think tank" which can donate to UK Political Party) should be allowed to accept donations from foreign sources.

One small (I’m sure accidentally un-mentioned) point nor commented in any of the Telegraph/Express/GBNews stories is that the donation was given five months before Bankman-Fried was charged, rather than after he had served his sentence, unlike some other Political Party… ;)

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so it's ok to be a crook and donate before you get caught :nutter:

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Strange, I thought you were a big fan of

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he was found guilty so the money came from a fraudster

and once again loyal fan thank you for your adoration ,i'll send you a signed photo and an i love papa mug ;)

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It's a job I guess... creating these guidance things .

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Comedy :LOL:

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Another grifter in charge of the country!

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk...isit-450-gift/

Sorry about the ad's, my local rag takes inspiration for ioi in Ready Player One for "how many ad's can we serve before giving brain damage to users" and said "hold my beer, we can show more".

£450 rugby tickets for free, add that to the £13k he has accepted in "gifts".

"This is according to newly released transparency files, which also show that he accepted more than £13,000 worth of freebies in the 13 months from June 2025 to July 2026."


So another PM that can be bought for a packet of crisps and some free tickets!

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It’s all here in the Members Register of Interests (without ads) - probably where the Warrington Guardian got the info from…

https://members.parliament.uk/member...teredinterests

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In other words, he declared everything correctly.

Unlike some others who couldn’t be bothered with a bit of paperwork.

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£458 of tickets for a Cricket match as well as a few others, nice I guess, but hardly earth shattering.

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so it's ok to be bought as long as you declare you've been bought ,funny system we have in this country.

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A few free tickets to sports events, or £5M from a dodgy overseas crypto billionaire. Which would you prefer?

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Neither?

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what would be the point of being in politics if you can't take a bung :erm:

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You are Nigel Farage and I claim my £10…

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There's degrees of separation, what will who ever expect in return for less than £500 worth of cricket tickets and what will the crypto billionaire expect on return for £5 million quid, we saw how well the roi was for Musk. I'd only prefer neither so people can't try and excuse the very worst indulgencies with claims that they're all at it when they're patently not, in fact they're so far from each other they're not even playing the same sport, cricket or not


Blimey that's inflation, used to be a fiver we claimed

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do you take crypto

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Ah, yes - you will have some to hand after you used the £250k you were given from the Bullion company to buy some crypto from a company run by the guy who runs the Bullion company.


However, in answer to your question, no...

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Its been happening for decades despite lip service promises from politicians to reform the system.

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So many people caught up with "it's been done for years" or "it's only £13.6k" etc.

The fact is, none of the MP's should be accepting "gifts" doesn't matter the amount because it just say's "I can be bought for the price of a cup of tea".

I don't care if is a "faux pas" or "not politically good", it's a bribe plain and simple!

Politics all around the world is screwed, politicians can be bought and 100% of them are paid for buy companies, unions, other countries governments etc etc, not a single Politician does the job for the reasons they should, they do it for what they can get from it!

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Yes, but it makes no difference. Unconditional gifts don’t have to be declared whether or not you are an MP.

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How do you know that £5M gift was unconditional? Because Nigel says so?

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Indeed. Are you saying you have evidence that is untrue? You can go around throwing mud as much as you like, but in the end you need proof.

This mudslinging has been going on for a while now and Farage has come out smelling of roses every time. This one is no different.

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Let’s see what the Standards commissioner has to say, shall we?

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Indeed. Better than rushing to judgement without doing the research.

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Strange, I always had him smelling of Patchouli oil.

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we need to wait for the court of kangaroo to come to it's totally unbiased opinion ;)

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Thank you, Temu Trump supporter…

Funny how it wasn’t a "kangaroo court*" when it investigated Starmer…

*Reform definition of "kangaroo court" - something that doesn’t agree we should be allowed to break the rules…

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i wouldn't know i'm not a member so i don't have your in depth knowledge.

but when a court is made up of your political enemies it pretty much is a kangaroo court,any hoo i'll wait till skippy gives the verdict

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Starmer stands down as an MP.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgy4258kgyo

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he won't be missed

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He's been an MP for 11 years so I think he might!

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great opportunity for binface

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Surprised nobody has photoshopped Farage into that pic ;)

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use ai
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1788274902

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if i remember correctly that scene ended with his enemy's stabbing him to death

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Politics in a nutshell :D