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So I've had Zen FTTP Full Fibre 900 for a month now and it's been great and rock solid. I usually get pretty much my expected speed on Ethernet and after changing my DNS to use Cloudflare if I was to game online I can expect a latency of 8 at best and 21 at worse with both being very stable.

Even though I have zero packet loss on all the tests I've done my Thinkbroadband quality monitor looks a little iffy though showing a little packet loss but my connection doesn't appear to represent what the graph shows so I'm not worrying about that. On my VM connection if the graph showed packet loss I would experience it my end.

I see my package is £5 cheaper per month so that's a little annoying.

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I did Thinkbroadband for years with both my VM and Zen connections. The Zen graph was usually very clean with not much happening whereas the VM chart was far "noisier" latency wise. Also it would regularly go red with 100% packet loss even though the connection was still working. I suspect the pings were being blocked but could only resolve it by either enabling/disabling flood protection or rebooting the router.
Has the price of the 900 meg service gone down? it was £50 last time I looked (openreach service).

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Youfibre put a leaflet through my door today, saying they are now available.

I rang up to question this with them and the confirmed it went live a few days ago.
Apparently they feed the BT poles, so I'll get another overhead line (same as my current FTTP).

Order placed for the end of the month (900 up/down).

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The price is £45 on their website now and it appears to not be on sale.

My thinkbroadband graph is very clean apart from some red but it's not affecting my connection quality at all so it doesn't worry me.

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Nice, it's a shame they can't use the same cable and ONT. I'm reluctant to move to Cityfibre when it becomes available because of lack of space for another ONT.

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I have space for two, I'll probably run dual FTTP for a few months, like I did with VM when I first got FTTP.

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I wish for us older tech guys they just called the ONT a modem which technically it is just a fibre modem instead of a DSL modem or a Coaxial Modem. Remember years ago when you got sent a USB Modem by Openreach suppliers? and had to set up an AD Hoc network because you could not connect it to router? (I also know technically it does not need to modulate and demodulate because it is digital to digital but it still converts light to electrical and back again )

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YouFibre Installed today.

Looking good ;

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/03/1.png

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Someone has fitted an empty green cabinet on my road next to our cable cabinet. I had a look inside, there's two circular ducting into the ground nothing yet fitted or pulled.

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Anything show up on here?
https://bidb.uk/

Open reach just used their existing green cabinets when installing FTTP in my village.

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Nope nothing new. I thought they were doing water works so I didn't bother going out when they were here but I'll now keep an eye on it.

Strange fitting though. The cable cabinet next to it is on the grass. This new cabinet is on the actual pavement. Not exactly safe fitting :shrug:

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city fibre are on a push and channel in if not there already

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I'm on private land according to their online checker

OpenReach are the ones that have coming soon this year for FTTP on their site checker

A VM rep who knocked the door a month or so ago said I won't be wired up being in a flat. "I've been in this game for x amount of years they won't pull a cable to you" lol I just kindly said ok I'll wait and see.

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Do you own the flat? It's annoying no one would cable you up, I wouldn't want to live somewhere so restricted, atleast you have mobile internet where I can't get it here.

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Nope, Crawley council home which I'm fine with them taking rent and looking after the place for that monies. There's cable and open reach copper just not fttp as of yet.

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When you see openreach all over your street you know it'll be soon, don't wait for letters selling it use that site weekly until you see it's live and hopefully you can get it unless you need permission from the council, I guess you will need permission and a wayleave., good luck!

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There's a communal cupboard that has the open reach copper in which then feeds each property. Gaining entrance to that cupboard is a pain. I don't have the key. VM cables are pulled up the side of the building to each property.

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Anybody know of Hyperoptic. According to Google they have started using open reach fttp network which is coming soon for me

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https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...openreach.html

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I've heard of them but like most it was never available in my area and it's City focused so that would never be available to me and I am Openreach.

Your link is nearly a year old.

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Oh no I was getting excited for a moment :(

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They are not a provider around here (via OpenReach).

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When you see Openreach vans doing stuff often you know it's close to being live.

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Turns out the newly installed cabinet is property of Virgin Media. A lovely sticker has been applied inside the back panel of the cabinet. :shrug:

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Even spiders need something to read ;)

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It is worth noting Openreach FTTP does not come via a cabinet.

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Thank you for that information.

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My Openreach FTTP is connected to a green cabinet which in turn is connected to a manhole opposite my house which is where they pulled it from.

When I input my address here it brings up a bunch of interesting info and tells me I'm served by cabinet 5 which is at the entrance to my street.

https://www.broadbandchecker.btwhole...SL/AddressHome

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Youfiber (used to be BRSK) are doing 2gb up and down for £30pm

Can check availability here... https://www.youfibre.com/check-availability/

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The thing is the hardware they use does not need to be in a cabinet but I assume BT will repurpose those. I watched a start to finish video on the subject from Zen made 4 years ago and it goes into depth on how they do it

The distribution is different as all the fibre splits per splice . If you go about 8 min in it shows you how it is distributed. Hell of a lot tidier that FTTC I tell you

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I can guarantee you there is no fibre connection in that cabinet. The reference to a cabinet is from the (being dis continued) PSTN service.

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Thanks, I wish I had taken a photo of what was in the manhole cover on my install.

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Thanks I'll give it a watch.

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What is stopping them repurposing a cabinet?

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Nothing but why do it for FTTP? The jointbox (manhole) contains the CBT (Connection block terminal) for direct connection to the properties if supplied via ducting. If supplied via pole CBT's are placed on them. There is no need for a cabinet for any FTTP connection.

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Actually and ironically I was walking home from town and low and behold I saw this on the way and had to snap it just for this thread. Low and behold an Openreach tech splicing Fibre in a cab haha

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Interesting, great pic. Did you chat to the technician?

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Yeah it was quite an amusing convo

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So my FRITZ!Box 7530 AX router received an update and since then there is zero packet loss showing on the graph which is nice, although I never actually experienced any in my testing.

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I got one as well. Don't know if you're registered with MyFritz!.net but they send monthly bulletins about useage/system etc and also tell you when an update is on it's way.

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Don't think I am registered.

Do you have a thinkbroadband graph setup so you can see the difference the update made to the graph?

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I do but haven't looked yet, don't look so often now as I don't have the "busy" VM connection to ponder over.
Just had a look, doesn't look a lot different really. Pretty clean chart on the whole before and after.

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I had loads of red on mine but the update cured that, I'll post images tomorrow morning as I'm at work until 10. Did you have the same model of Fritz as me?

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I do get some dropped packets showing (red) but never notice any issues in real time useage and haven't seen any in the few days since the update.
Yes I have the 7530AX also a Fritz 3000AX repeater that I bought direct from Germany rather than rent one off Zen.

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Edit..Having looked a bit more thoroughly I do have dropped packets after the update, similar to before really. Nothing that shows in real world useage though.

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Not a single dropped packet so far, as like you no real world packet loss when I did get them though.

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After the update.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1778800273

Before the update.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1778800337

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I dont think you saved the attachments.

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I could see the images before but I've redone it so hopefully all visible now.

I think I've got a very memorable IP address.

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Well I suppose you could consider the last two parts of it easy to remember. ;)

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I only need to remember the first 2 digits because there is my birth year in there too.

In all seriousness it's just a number I can't think of an everyday use that I would need to remember it.

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CityFibre are now laying the cables in my street so in 14 months time I have a faster cheaper option than Openreach available to me, although I can't see the point of more than 1GB download with my devices limited to that but the higher upload may come in handy.

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Thats why I got the 900/900 from YouFibre, my home network cant do more than that down (it doesnt quite hit 900 down) but the fast upload is great.

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Out of interest how does your Thinkbroadband graph look if you run one?

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This is from yesterday.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...chmentid=32275

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Thank you, it looks similar to my Openreach.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1784049597