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It's the Tories that are spooked by Reform. Under our electoral system it could all but wipe them out. A pact could mean half of Tory MPs/ councillors/ voters ( the slightly sane ones) , looking elsewhere.

This countries issues aren't to do with Labour or the Conservatives, but an insane decision made by the electorate 9 years ago.

Look at yourselves peeps, rather than blaming the main politicals parties who all told you it was bonkers...

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It is well within the governments ( of any colour) powers to control immigration.

Leaving the ECHR would help further.

They don’t get a free pass because of Brexit.

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Immigration can be restricted further but there are trade-offs eg staffing for the NHS, more course cuts at universities.

UK will never leave the ECHR for reasons stated before.

And Brexit means unlawful immigrants get a free pass as we can't return them to the EU country they came from. The promise to 'Take back control of our borders' is the opposite to what has occurred.

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Tripe. All those men in their mid-twenties and early thirties rocking up on The beach. Are not doctors or nurses or porters.

They are at best deliveroo drivers, at worst jihadists….in between just a burden on the state.

well we should to avoid this bollocks

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2695233.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpdx0yn6v7lo

Why? And please answer that as I would like to know

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Have a read here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin...R)%20in%202024.

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I thought somebody can't be accused of shoplifting until after they've left the shop.

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Most immigration is not people in small boats, that's a fraction of it. You need to look at the data, not Reform pontification.

There is a genuine trade-off which all parties face on immigration v economic growth and filling NHS roles. Lack of economic growth eventually feeds through into higher taxes.

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We’re not in the EU.

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True, but it is something we should eliminate immediately. There should be “zero” Illegal immigration.

There is no economic growth, there hasn’t been for over a decade, not since the 2008 crash really.

It getting worse, we don’t need immigration for growth, and immigration has not provided any growth.

For growth you need lower taxes on businesses, less regulation on development and cheap energy………none of which we have now.

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You're making my point for me. We can't return unlawful migrants anymore because of Brexit. I shared the legislation which we previously used.

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The GFC certainly gave us a hammering which has taken a long time to recover from. There has been growth though.

We'd all like lower taxes on everything but someone has to pay the bills but politicians being honest and asking taxpayers to stump on don't tend to get elected.

On planning, the current government at least is easing up development restrictions as we've seen with its support for airport expansion.

Energy prices were hammered by the Ukraine invasion but as we become more energy independent through renewables, nuclear and better storage facilities, it should start to come down. Joining the EU energy trading arrangements would help here too.

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We can….there is nothing stopping us from returning illegal immigrants to any country, if we so wish. Show me any law, domestic or international, that says we can’t.

Not the ECHR, which we should ditch anyway.


no there hasn’t.

0.1 here, -0.2 there, +0.2 again …….is not growth, it’s stagnation. Mad immigration has been used to provide the illusion of growth, but there has been no growth for nearly two decades.

Well there’s the point, wise men plant trees to provide the shade they know they’ll never sit under.

Bollocks, words, may never happen. If even given the green light I’ll probably be dead before Heathrow gets another runway. Planning power resides with the local councils, unless a national policy, such as permitted development rights, is implemented…..nothing changes.

You can have Net Zero, or you can have Growth…….not both.

We are not energy independent through renewables, if we were we wouldn’t have built 3 new cables between the U.K. and Norway, Denmark and Belgium in addition to the ones with France and Holland to import power from Europe.

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Apparently not.

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We can't ditch the ECHR, repeating this Reform fantasy cannot not make it viable. The Good Friday agreement requires the ECHR to be part of the law in Northern Ireland. Leaving it violates the the Good Friday Agreement, causing issues for the peace settlement in Northern Ireland and the UK’s relationship with Ireland and the EU.
https://ukandeu.ac.uk/explainers/lea...-human-rights/

You can't return illegal immigrants to France as the French would not permit the planes to land or boats into their territorial waters.

A bit more information here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyxeedx40d8o

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We can, I didn't say it would be easy and that it would cause issues elsewhere, but we are a sovereign nation.

Who said anything about returning them to France? they're not French.

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We are sovereign and we could leave the ECHR. Whether it’s a good idea is another matter. Given the select company it would put us in, on the whole I think not.

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Maybe so, but you have to question its validity when faced up against headlines like this, and this is just the latest one. You could dig up lots of cases where people are gaming the system and getting away with it.

It is clearly not fit for purpose.

https://europeanconservative.com/art...ensory-issues/

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Chicken nuggets? Is that akin to the certain racial gang after just white young females? Teach them young I say! Bravo.

Excuse my outlandish comments. Before someone gets offended!

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Hell has just frozen over. You've made a point I actually agree with.

The problem however is whereas we certainly can return illegals to any country we want, said country is under no obligation to accept them or even allow the plane to land.

Part of Bullshitting Boris' "Oven ready deal" was to omit any requirement for countries to accept people we send them.

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Send them to the Isle of Man.They'd soon be taking the boats back the other way.

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You are speaking my language.:D

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I think some on here would argue that we can technically push them off of a plane providing we give them parachutes! There's always the geeky what's technically possible v the real trade-offs and implications of doing this in the real world!

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Also some on here would argue that’s being soft* on asylum seekers… ;)

*unlike their landing…

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Please don't quote me into your stupid nonsense.

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Looks like Remain's leader is having a hard time of it from the other political parties over Ukraine. This seems to be the party's weak point.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...07c8ebac&ei=12

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President Zelenskyy is a hero ? Hmmm .... not sure about that bit.
Farage is a total muppet, but I think Priti may be going a little overboard there.

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Zelenskyy ticks the hero box for many in the West especially the UK.

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I do love a civil war.....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...t-lowe-police/

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Probably their Russian puppet masters getting bored on their tea break from dictating American foreign policy.

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Ah Reform. The gits that keep on giving.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7430zw4zqyo

Point - Lowe
Counterpoint - KC

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We’ve been telling you all they’re a bunch of amateurs for months.

Now they’ve gone and done us the honour of proving us right. How very kind of them.

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Given how well they’re currently imploding I thought this might come in handy for anyone suffering with buyer’s remorse

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It’s disappointing, they’re toast. For a moment there was a chance that there might actually be right orientated party that could change things.

But they can’t get their act together when there’s only 5 of them.

So we’re stuck with the uni-party and continuing high migration from Islamic countries and the managed decline of the country and economy.

I hope my boys emigrate and make better life elsewhere, ironic isn’t it!!!!!!

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There can’t be one single sane individual outside of a mental health hospital who genuinely thought that bunch of freaks had a chance of becoming a legitimate option for number 10. Especially considering how many seem to have little-to-no understanding of how elections work.

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I didn’t think they’d get into power, that’s impossible with our system.

But I thought they might just frighten the uni-party enough to cause them to pivot on several issues if they felt threatened enough.

But now that’s in doubt.

Oh well, welcome to Englandistan, 2065.

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For clarity that wasn’t aimed at you.

Just the brain-donors who genuinely thought they’d become an electable party within the next 15 years.

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The reason we're talking about Reform now is that they're down to four MPs, not five.

I think it's fair to say that Reform seems to be influencing Labour's agenda. Witness the increase in defence spending at the expense of foreign aid and the intent to reduce welfare spending.

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It’s just as well. “Britain’s fastest growing party” lost more members last month. Rats/sinking ship.

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The problem with being a radical insurgent political party with a reform agenda is that you attract radicals who by their nature are unhappy with consensus. It’s long been seen as a problem with the hard left, which has long has problems with factionalism. Looks like the far right isn’t immune.

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With the Labour current attack lines roughly paraphrased as “we’re so bold we are taking forward ideas so bad even the Tories rejected them” I’d not be so quick to celebrate the demise of Reform.

Austerity is a failed economic model that has been a noose around the neck of the economy for 15 years. There is no reason to expect austerity 2.0 to end any differently.

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I don't see Reform ending any day soon but they are clearly going through what might be politely described as growing pains. They're polling up there with Labour and the Conservatives in the national polls and are predicted to win Runcorn & Helsby.

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I can’t see it myself.

It would be quite something if they did

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As always, a by-election is a near zero cost to kick the government.

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How much you reckon he's got :naughty:

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I heard over £500,000K. Too much.

Average Joe wouldn’t have got this.

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I would have guessed millions no? He was persecuted both personally and professionally. It was a lot of defamation.

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A party of snowflakes or just lovers of litigation?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...8a068c86&ei=21

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They had a real shot, for about 5mins.

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5 minutes? I love your optimism.

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I dont think they ever had a realistic chance.

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That’s too simplistic. Reform is eating into both the Labour and Conservative vote because the electorate are unhappy with both main parties.

Reform UK has captured the public imagination with its narrative. They are disrupters, and their standing in the polls should make both Starmer and Badenoch think about what they have been getting wrong. If they don’t change, Reform UK will see them off at the next General Election. Farage is building his party from the bottom up and is fielding candidates for every seat at the council elections.

Will he meet his goal of getting into government? It’s a tall order but he knows what needs to be done to overcome the difficulties for his party in gaining electoral success with our FPTP system.

Interesting times.

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It’s a storm in a teacup. All parties have such problems but when it comes to Reform, every issue is treated like it’s a disaster.

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Particularly because they don’t have any specific policies which is why they won’t get taken seriously when polling times come around.

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Well it may have captured yours, the majority of the public ? not so much.

No.

When you're a well established party of over 100 years, you can ride storms a little easier than a new party starting out.

Reforms biggest issue seems to be (as implied by Russ) that no one seems to know what their actual policies are.
On top of that, Farage himself is a big hurdle to their popularity, many people just cant stand the man, me included.

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Reform are really a one-trick pony and that pony is Nigel Farage. Fortunately for them, he's more of a stallion than a pony. As long as he's their leader, they can't be easily written off.

Reform are populist - left wing on business and right wing on law and order. That's a popular place to be. Not good for the country but an attractive area to position yourself with the electorate.

Also, let's not forget, Labour were criticised for having no policies and it didn't prevent them getting into power.

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Populist is good politics. The crunch will be whether or not the public believe that the so-called "stallion" can deliver on what he espouses.

One good thing that would emerge if Reform win a GE is that the cabinet would comprise normal people with some acumen but who are not professional liars.


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Btw, I'm still a card carrying Conservative who prefers to piss inside the tent. Also there are several shadow cabinet members I would particularly like to piss on because they were a significant part of the past Tory shambles.

That said, Farage carries the Conservative flag, imo.

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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We only have to look at the peace in Ukraine within 24 hours of Trump being President or the trade deals we've signed with the US and India to know that populist is about making promises that can't be realistically kept.

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:D

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 

You forgot about Putin's Easter Saturday cease fire from 07.00 p.m. (kyiv time) for 30 hours over Easter.

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 

If a general election were held today, Reform UK would be on course to win the most seats, but no party would be close to an overall majority, a new poll suggests.

Nigel Farage’s party would win 180 seats, with the Tories and Labour on 165 seats each, according to the More in Common survey of 16,000 voters. Sir Keir Starmer’s party would achieve an even worse result than it sustained under Jeremy Corbyn in 2019, losing 246 seats, the modelling claims.mon director Luke Tryl said the survey shows that “British politics has fragmented to an unprecedented level”.

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And that's exactly the reason why his connection to Farage and co all the more dangerous for the UK.

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:D:D

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The only thing I want to give Farage is an elbow strike to the side of the head.

DISCLAIMER: this was purely metaphorical and I don’t advocate violence on anyone.

Farage has no idea of “the British psyche” unless you’re one of those who falls for his “man of the people” gimmick when he puts on a flat cap and gets his photo taken holding a pint to demonstrate he’s “just like us”.

Farage doesn’t get “the British psyche” any more than Bullshitting Boris did.

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All politicians speak total sense about the economy until they get elected. And his plans regarding immigration involves leaving the ECHR, as if doing so would have any impact on stopping illegal immigrants arriving here.

“A hell of a lot” is subjective but clearly not “a hell of a lot” enough to get his party elected in July.

I’ll tell what “a hell of a lot” of people will do at the next election, is see him for the 2-faced grifter that he is.

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It’s not time for the General Election yet. We don’t know what policies any of the major parties will have in place in another four years’ time.

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You seem to have missed the recent polls on voting intentions, so I think you are wrong about the popularity of Farage and Reform.

Although it certainly helps to be a well established party to win a General Election, you also need to factor in the high level of disillusionment people have about the main parties. The people still want change - Labour isn’t delivering the change they want, and if Starmer dares to try getting us back into the EU, he can say goodbye to any chance of re-election next time around.

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I think it’s you that doesn’t identify with the British psyche. There is a reason why Farage and his party is described as ‘populist’. In case you are confused by that, it means he’s popular.

The fact that you don’t seem to get that simple connection explains your comment, does it not?

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Nail on head, Seph.

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Your first sentence has some truth in it, so why you see them as more credible than Farage is a strange contortion.

Leaving the ECHR enables us to put in place deterrent measures which were thwarted last time it was tried. Many people on the left of politics simply don’t understand that a big deterrent like that will stop people trying.

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The Daily Mail and the Sun are 2 of the most popular newspapers in the UK. Does that automatically make them any good?

Ergo.....

Back at ya.

How about the fact he's targeting Downing Street by 2029 when he doesn't have a single policy to hang his hat on to?

Or he's leading this bunch of misfits?

https://news.err.ee/907867/more-than...rving-sentence


I'm guessing this will come as news to you but leaving the ECHR won't make it any easier to "send them back". Many people on the right side of politics simply don't understand this.

https://theconversation.com/leaving-...-the-uk-227403

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I was demonstrating examples of populism. If you want me to find the similarities between Farage and Trump that's not hard either.

They're both uniquely-gifted communicators who can connect with the man on the street, especially in left-behind areas.

Their promises are cynically unachievable and are there to attract the hard of thinking. Be it cutting Council spending, removing income tax on less than £20k, building the wall or Ukranian peace within 24 hours of being elected.

Their communication is especially strong through simple social media friendly slogans, be that "Make America great again" or "Take back control".

And did I mention that they've spent more time in Russian embassies than is desirable?

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He's already been tested and failed/delivered nothing.

The first time in in European Parliament when he just tried to disrupt ( in the few times he turned up).

The 2nd as MP for Clacton, whose residents haven't see him since the election.

Like Boris, populists get found out when they actually have to deliver something.

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I'm being super rational.

I'm warning Reform UK sceptics not to write off the Party's electoral challenge. And I'm warning Farage fans that he's a populist who can't deliver on his impossible promises.

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He promised he'd leave the country if brexit was a failure and yet he's still here

As in Greater Brittany

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No. A populist with workable ideas is a good populist.

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Don’t forget they never take responsibility when their ideas don’t work - it’s always someone else’s fault…

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I'm sorry to say to you that none of the above is of any substance.

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"Right" usually ends up being "workable" if your cabinet are not made up of professional politicians.

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And you’re suggesting Reform wouldn’t bring in “professional politicians” if they ever got in to power?

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I had to stare at this for several minutes to try and figure out whether you were being serious or not.

Going on the basis that you probably are, mark this page and mark this date.

There is not a cat's chance in hell that Reform (in the extremely unlikely event they make it into power) would use "ordinary people from the professions" as their cabinet.

If they do, I will eat my own underpants (washed or not, it'll be your choice), record it and post it on here for public amusement or nausea (you decide).

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Not really. They are popular because they are easy reads at a time when the news in the more serious press is full of doom and gloom.

Popular politicians are those who connect with the popular opinions of the people. Whether they can deliver is a different issue, which can only be tested once elected. As Starmer is showing us all too well.

Er, Russ. A word in your ear. NO credible political party will divulge their policies four years before a General Election.

His candidates will be hand picked and subject to a vetting process far more rigorous that any of the other main parties have in place. I think you will find he has the last laugh. This isn’t going to be a UKIP Mark II.

No, abandoning the ECHR alone will not stop the boats, but coupled with amending our own legislation (which led to the Supreme Court’s judgement) and deporting illegal migrants straight away WOULD work.

It’s Starmer who is playing smoke and mirrors, saying things like he’s given millions more to the French to stop the boats when we heard just the other day that they are giving them life jackets before they set off!

We are being played, but not by Farage. He knows what is needed, and some of us know that, too.

By the way, your smilies indicate a lot of aggression. Calm down, old chap, no need for raised blood pressure.

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That’s something we can look forward to. Someone else on here made that promise a few years ago and wished he hadn’t. :beer:

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I think Farage showed us that the European Parliament was nothing more than a talking shop. It’s the bureaucrats who put forward the policies and Parliament, in the end, can say only yes or no. It was not worth his while turning up, but his reason for joining was fulfilled.

As for your second point - oh dear….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlr5ry8jwgo

You’ve just got to believe me when the Beeb says it too.

[EXTRACT]

The Clacton MP said he had visited his Essex-based constituency "a couple of days a week" since July.

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No, they've been consistently popular for decades.

And so far no politician has succeeded with that. Reform won't change that record

They won't? You don't think parties give intentions of their policies when they're targeting election success within a few years?


Yep Farage has a shining record of vetting who he lets in to the party https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-deputy-leader


You STILL don't get it :rofl:

We would still be bound by International Law.

Oh you are indeed, you just can't see it. Just ask anyone from Clacton.

I'm not calmed up. You're just making it very easy (fueled by a level of temptation I'm unable to resist tonight) to pick apart your points.

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No, as usual, you are not directly addressing anything.

“And so far”… We are talking about the future, not the past.

As a matter of interest, do you know what policies the Labour or Conservatives will be highlighted at the next election? Of course not. More shallow thinking. Farage will announce his in good time.

As for thinking that you’ve thwarted my argument about the ECHR by reminding me of International Law, you do realise that each country decides how international rules are implemented domestically, don’t you? If it is a human construct, it can be undone. Watch and learn.

You won’t pick apart my points because you cannot, with any credibility. You can disagree, but you cannot prove me wrong.

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This was dated August, and it doesn't say he visited his constituency, it says he said he had visited his constituency...

How many surgeries has he held in the last nine months?


Here's what some of his constituents say...

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/new...-b2668611.html

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I didn't say I was trying to.

Farage's actions/inactions will do that by themselves.

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Farage is an old romantic at heart. No, please hear me out on this!

I say it because as far as his constituents in Clacton go, he fully buys into the saying "Absence makes the heart grow fonder!" :D

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You've been around a good while, I assume you remember in the run-up to the 2010 election the Lib Dems promised to abolish tuition fees, but once they got in to government as part of the coalition, they couldn't follow through with it and Nick Clegg had to publicly apologise for saying it in the first place.

Why?

Because it was part of a bunch of no-hope policies they cobbled together because they stood no chance of getting into power. So when they inadvertently ended up sharing power with the brown-stuff party, reality kicked in, and their impossible policies had to get called out.

Farage will do exactly the same. Promise streets paved with gold, with not a single non-white person walking upon them, no doubt. In fact, say ANYTHING to get the gullible to believe in and vote for them.

Remember, you heard it here first.

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More like "Absinthe makes the tart grow fonder".

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No need to apologise, which bits in particular lack substance, so I know for next time, the bit where farage promised to leave the country if brexit was a failure or the bit where Great Britain was known as Greater Brittany since Roman times, don't tell me you thought our descendants were childish enough to call the country Great in a move donnie trump would admire and our descendants were great, the victorians are probably the greatest of all, wonder what they'd call Britain of today, mid Britain, mediocre at best Britain


Easy solutions to complex problems, sounds great or looks great on paper until you're asked to deliver on them

I'd expect a policy press release any day then if that's the qualification


That's exactly what it'll be because that's who Nigel is

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You are grasping at straws. He said he had visited his constituency twice a week when questioned on this in August 2024. He clarified it again earlier this year and he said he had bought a home in Clacton.

https://www.clactonandfrintongazette...-clacton-home/

There is no evidence that you have brought forward to paint the opposite picture apart from comment from some of his opponents who are trying to spin a story.

Looks like you’ve fallen for it.

Why do I feel a meme coming from you next?

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I agree with you about the Lib Dems. But you have no evidence that Farage will do the same. It’s your speculation, which is fair enough, but it is not a fact.

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How many surgeries has Farage held in Clacton?

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Speculation that Farage has done nothing to quell.

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Anyhoo, it’s rumoured Liz Truss may be leaving the Tories and joining Reform UK - that should raise the average IQ level of both Parties…

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If she does, I'm sure many in the Conservative Party will be saying "Lettuce rejoice". :D

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[QUOTE=Hugh;36195097]This was dated August, and it doesn't say he visited his constituency, it says he said he had visited his constituency...

How many surgeries has he held in the last nine months?

I have a labour mp her office .. is always closed and I have never seen her at aii what surprise

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Bit of luck she'll get what she righteously deserves at the election, same as nige and anyone else who doesn't represent their constituents

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That would be a disaster for Reform.

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@TheDaddy

My criticism is that you are damning Farage for abstract matters; matters not of substance. His task is to convince voters that (all in good time) he has sensible policies to put the economy to rights and then explain how he can deliver them.

The main parties cannot deliver sensible policies as we've seen. All this @Russ type stuff, born out of blind hatred for anything right of the political spectrum is more emotion and less substance. After all @Russ regards me, a card carrying (disappointed Conservative) as something akin to ****.

One thin Farage wants is a low tax model for the economy that drives economic growth through investment. And this net-zero scam just has to be stopped. Farage is for that.

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You might want to be careful of what BS you accuse me of in public.

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Well, as you seem to be so sure of yourself, why don’t you just tell us?

Don’t worry, Hugh, it’s just a rhetorical question. I know you don’t have the answer.