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RichardCoulter 29-01-2025 18:23
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36190282)
Company cutting costs, because income is less , that's a surprise . Sorry I forgot you believe that companies have money trees in their car parks
Are you aware of the actual background to this forthcoming change?

Itshim 29-01-2025 20:21
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190286)
Are you aware of the actual background to this forthcoming change?
Let me guess they are looking to spend more money :p:I am sure you will explain, no doubt they asked your advice prior to making the change.

SonicMaster 29-01-2025 20:56
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Anyone here old enough to remember Top Up TV?

Eurosport, TCM, LIVING, Hallmark, SYFY etc all gone now...

Those were the days ��

cheekyangus 29-01-2025 22:09
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36190261)
VEVO has close on Virgin Channel 291 ahead of it full axing on January 31st on all other networks.
Shame their TV apps are disappearing everywhere.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190271)
No, it's what happens when takeovers and mergers occur and a single company ends up dominating the market.

This will actually save Virgin money as they will no longer have to pay carriage fees for Eurosport. With TNT Sports, as a standalone channel, costs are met by subscribers.
It might make me adjust our package, I have no intention of subscribing to TNT. I watch a lot of Eurosport and it suited being part of a general channel package, I don’t do premium sports channels, I don’t watch enough to justify the cost.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36190303)
Anyone here old enough to remember Top Up TV?

Eurosport, TCM, LIVING, Hallmark, SYFY etc all gone now...

Those were the days ��
Yup, an attempt to bring Pay TV to Digital Terrestrial sitting alongside Freeview, offering bits of channels rather than full ones and overnight bits that the box recorded due to the space limitations of DTT.

Interesting concept. Wasn’t a subscriber personally.

OLD BOY 29-01-2025 23:02
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36190308)
Shame their TV apps are disappearing everywhere.



It might make me adjust our package, I have no intention of subscribing to TNT. I watch a lot of Eurosport and it suited being part of a general channel package, I don’t do premium sports channels, I don’t watch enough to justify the cost.
You may find that ar least some of the Eurosport output goes to the Quest channel.

RichardCoulter 30-01-2025 00:22
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36190298)
Let me guess they are looking to spend more money :p:I am sure you will explain, no doubt they asked your advice prior to making the change.
I'll take this as a no.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36190308)
Shame their TV apps are disappearing everywhere.



It might make me adjust our package, I have no intention of subscribing to TNT. I watch a lot of Eurosport and it suited being part of a general channel package, I don’t do premium sports channels, I don’t watch enough to justify the cost.



Yup, an attempt to bring Pay TV to Digital Terrestrial sitting alongside Freeview, offering bits of channels rather than full ones and overnight bits that the box recorded due to the space limitations of DTT.

Interesting concept. Wasn’t a subscriber personally.
I too remember TUTV, but also never used it. Didn't it come about because Sky were refused permission to launch 'Picnic'?

I think a fair few won't start to subscribe to TNT Sports in order to continue to receive the Eurosport content. They will be losing the revenue from Sky/Virgin for Eurosport, yet find it won't be replaced by subscribers taking the standalone TNT Sports channels.

Many have said that they should have renamed Eurosport to something like TNT Sports Extra and left them as basic channels or introduced a lower, cheaper tier to TNT Sports premium.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36190310)
You may find that ar least some of the Eurosport output goes to the Quest channel.
Apparently, on Quest only some MotoGP will be covered in full, with the rest being bits and bats of other sports.

One way round it is to watch Eurosport for free on 19.2°. It helps if you know a bit of German, but it's not essential to follow the sports it shows.

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Does Virgin NI have the Cúla4 channel yet?

Paul 30-01-2025 02:50
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36190303)
Eurosport, TCM, LIVING, Hallmark, SYFY etc all gone now...
Hallmark is still a channel, SYFY is as well.

1701-e 30-01-2025 07:43
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190311)
Does Virgin NI have the Cúla4 channel yet?
Cula 4 is a timeshare with TG4 so it's on VM in N Ireland

Media Boy UK 30-01-2025 10:57
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36190308)
Shame their TV apps are disappearing everywhere.
VEVO is merging with their owners app.

You may know them - It's a wee company called YouTube.

Itshim 30-01-2025 11:39
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36190319)
Hallmark is still a channel, SYFY is as well.
I know someone that loved to watch hallmark, that's when I brought a second tv :p:

cheekyangus 30-01-2025 13:27
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36190328)
VEVO is merging with their owners app.

You may know them - It's a wee company called YouTube.
I thought they’d merged/been bought by someone else. I vaguely recall not recognising the app’s name. It wasn’t Google.

I didn’t have either the time or inclination to look into it at the time though.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190311)
I'll take this as a no.

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I think a fair few won't start to subscribe to TNT Sports in order to continue to receive the Eurosport content. They will be losing the revenue from Sky/Virgin for Eurosport, yet find it won't be replaced by subscribers taking the standalone TNT Sports channels.

Many have said that they should have renamed Eurosport to something like TNT Sports Extra and left them as basic channels or introduced a lower, cheaper tier to TNT Sports premium.
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I would have went the Basics route if I were them, it would act as a barker channel but also allow for the extended coverage some sports require that being part of General Entertainment channel wouldn’t, and get a little income from the Basics subscription package.

SonicMaster 30-01-2025 14:31
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36190319)
Hallmark is still a channel, SYFY is as well.
Not in the UK.

SYFY content tends to be shown on Sky Sci-Fi or Sky Max. The kind of content that aired on Hallmark is in various places.

Paul 30-01-2025 20:50
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36190344)
Not in the UK.
I never said in the UK, just that they still exist. ;)

I can watch either via IPTV, the channel list does include "SYFY UK" (not watched it to see what its showing).

RichardCoulter 30-01-2025 22:01
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36190320)
Cula 4 is a timeshare with TG4 so it's on VM in N Ireland
Someone from Dublin has said that he doubts this is correct as TG4 broadcasts 24/7 and that, on Saorview (DTT), Cúla4 timeshares with TG4 +1.

SonicMaster 30-01-2025 23:14
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36190381)
I never said in the UK, just that they still exist. ;)

I can watch either via IPTV, the channel list does include "SYFY UK" (not watched it to see what its showing).
Given this is cableforum.UK the availability of channels in other countries is of no relevance to the conversation whatsoever.

vincerooney 31-01-2025 00:05
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
does anyone think the next premier league deal will be the last one? premier league streaming as an app has to be from 2032 surely?

Paul 31-01-2025 00:41
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36190391)
Given this is cableforum.UK the availability of channels in other countries is of no relevance to the conversation whatsoever.
No need to be an ass about it.
What is of relevance to this forum is not your decision.

1701-e 31-01-2025 07:57
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190389)
Someone from Dublin has said that he doubts this is correct as TG4 broadcasts 24/7 and that, on Saorview (DTT), Cúla4 timeshares with TG4 +1.
We don't get the+1 variant on cable and I can assure you that Cula 4 is on my guide in the morning slot for 877 TG4

RichardCoulter 31-01-2025 10:26
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36190400)
We don't get the+1 variant on cable and I can assure you that Cula 4 is on my guide in the morning slot for 877 TG4
Thanks.

Media Boy UK 31-01-2025 16:49
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
GreyHorse is set to launch soon on Virgin Media UK.

https://bsky.app/profile/ukctvc.bsky.../3lh2e6oauhc2d

1701-e 31-01-2025 17:09
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Who or what is GreyHorse?

TimeLord2018 31-01-2025 17:10
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Sure isn't Greyhound?

I know Greyhound Racing is available on Sky Sports Racing the from red button on Sky.

Media Boy UK 31-01-2025 19:16
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36190432)
Who or what is GreyHorse?
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36190433)
Sure isn't Greyhound?

I know Greyhound Racing is available on Sky Sports Racing the from red button on Sky.
No other information is known.

Media Boy UK 31-01-2025 21:43
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
UPDATE:

Virgin Media UK are maybe set to launch ''Greyhound'' via the red button on Sky Sports Racing HD for their Premier Greyhound Racing.

Premier Greyhound Racing has been shown on the red Button since Sky Sports pick up the right last year.

Some Premier Greyhound Racing are shown on Sky Sports Racing HD when no horse Racing are on or about about to go off.

RichardCoulter 31-01-2025 22:40
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36190431)
GreyHorse is set to launch soon on Virgin Media UK.

https://bsky.app/profile/ukctvc.bsky.../3lh2e6oauhc2d
First time i've been on Blue Sky, is this the replacement for Twitter after Musk bought it?

epsilon 31-01-2025 23:18
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36190433)
Sure isn't Greyhound?

I know Greyhound Racing is available on Sky Sports Racing the from red button on Sky.
The Service Name is GreyHorse. Surely Virgin TV don't make mistakes.

...speaking of Virgin Media "mistakes" they have ignored the last 2 rebrands of Sky Cinema Action, so it continues to be listed on the EPG with the name of a former rebrand.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190446)
First time i've been on Blue Sky, is this the replacement for Twitter after Musk bought it?
Long story short it was set up by the original Twitter management to test decentralisation of the platform. Decentralisation doesn't suit Elon, it would restrict his ability to manipulate platform content. Since Elon's acquisition, Twitter has severed all links to Blue Sky. Blue Sky's user count has been rapidly increasing, attracting users dissatisfied with Elon's promotion of far right movement's such as Germany's AfD.

RichardCoulter 01-02-2025 01:23
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36190449)
The Service Name is GreyHorse. Surely Virgin TV don't make mistakes.

...speaking of Virgin Media "mistakes" they have ignored the last 2 rebrands of Sky Cinema Action, so it continues to be listed on the EPG with the name of a former rebrand.

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Long story short it was set up by the original Twitter management to test decentralisation of the platform. Decentralisation doesn't suit Elon, it would restrict his ability to manipulate platform content. Since Elon's acquisition, Twitter has severed all links to Blue Sky. Blue Sky's user count has been rapidly increasing, attracting users dissatisfied with Elon's promotion of far right movement's such as Germany's AfD.
Sounds good to me, are people tending to close their Twitter accounts when they join Blue Sky?

vincerooney 01-02-2025 01:31
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190452)
Sounds good to me, are people tending to close their Twitter accounts when they join Blue Sky?
im keeping both at the moment.

hoping more people come to bluesky. i'm not even going to mention politics but the bot situation on twitter is ridiculous. all the bluetick accounts using chatgpt to tweet generic replies via some sort of bot system. majority i find are Indian based accounts. They're so obvious to spot but people reply to them!

Media Boy UK 01-02-2025 15:41
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36190453)
im keeping both at the moment.

hoping more people come to bluesky. i'm not even going to mention politics but the bot situation on twitter is ridiculous. all the bluetick accounts using chatgpt to tweet generic replies via some sort of bot system. majority i find are Indian based accounts. They're so obvious to spot but people reply to them!
I am keeping my X feed but using BlueSky for UK Base story's.

cheekyangus 01-02-2025 20:19
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190446)
First time i've been on Blue Sky, is this the replacement for Twitter after Musk bought it?
It was started by the bloke behind Twitter but is making the same mistakes and is still a corporate entity with big money backing pretending it’s not.

Today happens to be Global Switch Day actually.

Switching to publicly owned digital media is the way to protect against the corporate control of our information.

So —> Twitter/X to Mastodon, Instagram to Pixelfed, WhatsApp to Signal, Reddit to Lemmy, Facebook Messenger to Signal, Facebook to Friendica, YouTube to PeerTube, TikTok to Loops.

Bluesky is owned by VCs and crypto backers. It is NOT public social media.

Paul 01-02-2025 22:03
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
.. or just dont use any of them. ;)

Aside from Mastodon, I've never heard of any of those alternatives, so I doubt many people would move to them.
If they did somehow become popular, they'll probably get bought out by a "corporate entity with big money" anyway.


[ Not sure what any of this has to do with Virgin TV .. ]

epsilon 02-02-2025 00:03
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190452)
Sounds good to me, are people tending to close their Twitter accounts when they join Blue Sky?
Many have but it does mean losing contact with those who refuse to migrate, so the norm seems to be using both platforms.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36190485)
It was started by the bloke behind Twitter but is making the same mistakes and is still a corporate entity with big money backing pretending it’s not.

Today happens to be Global Switch Day actually.

Switching to publicly owned digital media is the way to protect against the corporate control of our information.

So —> Twitter/X to Mastodon, Instagram to Pixelfed, WhatsApp to Signal, Reddit to Lemmy, Facebook Messenger to Signal, Facebook to Friendica, YouTube to PeerTube, TikTok to Loops.

Bluesky is owned by VCs and crypto backers. It is NOT public social media.
Bluesky is run as a benefit corporation so favours making a positive impact on society c.f. Elon's negative impact and the increase of hate filled content on Twitter. It is also decentralised like Mastodon, although it is still in its infancy so doesn't have quite the same level of "federation". There is a small amount of blockchain funding but not enough to be a big influence. Blockchain funding seems to be increasing with small media organisations too but they don't seem to gain very much traction so probably not the best way of funding. Mastodon is fine, it doesn't get the level of engagement needed to be a success and the links between fediverse networks can be tenuous. Signal took a similar path to Bluesky, being set up by one of the founders of Whatsapp. I'm not sure how much I would trust Signal, probably more than Whatsapp under Meta's management and certainly more than I would trust Telegram. The others you mention haven't reached critical mass.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36190492)
.. or just dont use any of them. ;)

Aside from Mastodon, I've never heard of any of those alternatives, so I doubt many people would move to them.
If they did somehow become popular, they'll probably get bought out by a "corporate entity with big money" anyway.


[ Not sure what any of this has to do with Virgin TV .. ]
Well, yes, you do make a good point.

cheekyangus 02-02-2025 11:07
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36190498)
It is also decentralised like Mastodon, although it is still in its infancy so doesn't have quite the same level of "federation".
And it won’t. Many “instances” on the other Fediverse platforms have either refused to federate it or have set interactions to a minimal level to monitor that service’s actions based on their current way of running things, especially as Bluesky and Threads have said things that that imply they would collect & use the data of accounts not on their services, and take any interaction with their service’s users as authorisation to do so.

Bluesky and Threads look like they are doing the Decentralised equivalent of Green-washing.
———

As for how this ties into TV Paul, it’s about information sources (particularly accurate, official and reliable ones) and where they can be found, so it ties into virtually every subject imaginable.

epsilon 03-02-2025 19:08
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36190514)
And it won’t. Many “instances” on the other Fediverse platforms have either refused to federate it or have set interactions to a minimal level to monitor that service’s actions based on their current way of running things, especially as Bluesky and Threads have said things that that imply they would collect & use the data of accounts not on their services, and take any interaction with their service’s users as authorisation to do so.

Bluesky and Threads look like they are doing the Decentralised equivalent of Green-washing.
We'll have to see, it hasn't even been open to the public for a full year yet. The problem with depending on poorly funded alternatives means there is no guarantee of continuity. Your posts could be here one day and gone the next as your choice of federated servers fails. As we have seen with botsin.space.

epsilon 04-02-2025 10:30
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Overnight changes:
Eurosport 3 HD to Eurosport 8 HD removed.
Encryption removed for Sky Sports Active SptsETV01 to SptsETV03 following the removal of PMTs and elementary streams (video & audio).
FAST services Eggheads & Hell's Kitchen relaunched on channels 233 & 253.
Baby TV, SONY SAB HD & red button services TNT Sport 6 to TNT Sport 10 have switched transport streams and are now available in HD.
Further details:
https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

vincerooney 05-02-2025 00:45
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36190617)
Overnight changes:
Eurosport 3 HD to Eurosport 8 HD removed.
Encryption removed for Sky Sports Active SptsETV01 to SptsETV03 following the removal of PMTs and elementary streams (video & audio).
FAST services Eggheads & Hell's Kitchen relaunched on channels 233 & 253.
Baby TV, SONY SAB HD & red button services TNT Sport 6 to TNT Sport 10 have switched transport streams and are now available in HD.
Further details:
https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com
when does Eurosport close?

RichardCoulter 05-02-2025 01:04
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36190680)
when does Eurosport close?
28th of this month IIRC.

cheekyangus 05-02-2025 08:37
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
We received a communication from VM re: Eurosport closing offering us TNT sports for the remainder of our contract (then it would be normal price).

Given VM said they knew we watch Eurosport (true) you’d think they would also know that we haven’t been in contract for quite a long time (and can walk away any time), so the offer is irrelevant and we don’t qualify.

RichardCoulter 05-02-2025 17:30
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36190698)
We received a communication from VM re: Eurosport closing offering us TNT sports for the remainder of our contract (then it would be normal price).

Given VM said they knew we watch Eurosport (true) you’d think they would also know that we haven’t been in contract for quite a long time (and can walk away any time), so the offer is irrelevant and we don’t qualify.
Accept their offer and they might be stupid enough to just switch on free TNT Sports for you 😀

cheekyangus 05-02-2025 21:54
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190744)
Accept their offer and they might be stupid enough to just switch on free TNT Sports for you 😀
I’ve not got the time to watch much sport these days unfortunately, and they’d probably mess up something and I can’t bothered getting into a situation I’d have to rectify.

RichardCoulter 05-02-2025 23:26
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36190752)
I’ve not got the time to watch much sport these days unfortunately, and they’d probably mess up something and I can’t bothered getting into a situation I’d have to rectify.
True, nothing is simple with these clowns.

vincerooney 06-02-2025 00:44
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
will the number of TNT Sport channels increase once Eurosport closes or just merging it into the existing TNT channels

ozsat 06-02-2025 05:25
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
It is staying at four full time and six part time (red button) channels.

Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36190761)
will the number of TNT Sport channels increase once Eurosport closes or just merging it into the existing TNT channels

Media Boy UK 06-02-2025 09:46
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36190766)
It is staying at four full time and six part time (red button) channels.
But all SIX Red Button Channels are now in HD.

1701-e 06-02-2025 12:18
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36190767)
But all SIX Red Button Channels are now in HD.
So a fair chance that many so-called minority sports will be on the red button which of course cannot be recorded.

Media Boy UK 06-02-2025 13:40
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36190772)
So a fair chance that many so-called minority sports will be on the red button which of course cannot be recorded.
WBD have said that some of the sports shown on Eurosport will move to QUEST.

RichardCoulter 06-02-2025 18:31
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36190774)
WBD have said that some of the sports shown on Eurosport will move to QUEST.
Only MotoGP will be fully covered, the rest will be ad hoc coverage. I suspect that this will ultimately be being done to encourage people to subscribe to TNT Sports.

Itshim 06-02-2025 19:46
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190793)
Only MotoGP will be fully covered, the rest will be ad hoc coverage. I suspect that this will ultimately be being done to encourage people to subscribe to TNT Sports.
Well they certainly won't want to discourage people from subscribing

TimeLord2018 06-02-2025 19:51
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
And MotoGP wasn't on Eurosport anyway

Dingbat 06-02-2025 21:53
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
MotoGP has been on BTSport/TNT for a number of years.

World Superbike and British Superbike are on Eurosport.

vincerooney 07-02-2025 02:20
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
what sports did Eurosport have? cycling and winter sports? i cant think of anything else other than the Olympics coverage

1701-e 07-02-2025 07:14
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Snooker (tons of it) and two of the four grand slam tennis tournaments too

Media Boy UK 07-02-2025 15:32
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36190818)
what sports did Eurosport have? cycling and winter sports? i cant think of anything else other than the Olympics coverage
Everytime I look up the listings for Eurosport UK.

Eurosport 2 HD was not broadcasting any live sports for 11 months outside Tennis rights.

Frazz 07-02-2025 15:49
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36190842)
Everytime I look up the listings for Eurosport UK.

Eurosport 2 HD was not broadcasting any live sports for 11 months outside Tennis rights.
And more or less all winter sports

heero_yuy 07-02-2025 16:09
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36190818)
what sports did Eurosport have? cycling and winter sports? i cant think of anything else other than the Olympics coverage
IIRC before they had any mainstream sports there was tractor pulling, truck trialing, drag racing and Icelandic 4x4. :erm:

Media Boy UK 07-02-2025 18:49
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36190850)
IIRC before they had any mainstream sports there was tractor pulling, truck trialing, drag racing and Icelandic 4x4. :erm:
In 1990 Eurosport did show WWE Wrestling.

Itshim 07-02-2025 18:54
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36190868)
In 1990 Eurosport did show WWE Wrestling.
So no real sport :shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

Mr K 07-02-2025 19:47
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36190871)
So no real sport :shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:
Eurosport had the Biathlon, cross country skiing, combined with a bit of rifle shooting when you got tired of skiing. Fantastic entertainment.

Itshim 07-02-2025 21:36
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36190877)
Eurosport had the Biathlon, cross country skiing, combined with a bit of rifle shooting when you got tired of skiing. Fantastic entertainment.
So sad I missed it, how can I find it to watch :rolleyes:

Paul 07-02-2025 22:07
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Well its been going for 30+ years, someone must have been watching it.

Itshim 07-02-2025 22:09
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36190881)
Well its been going for 30+ years, someone must have been watching it.
:confused:

vincerooney 08-02-2025 04:03
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36190871)
So no real sport :shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:
dont you like darts?!

RichardCoulter 08-02-2025 12:13
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36190881)
Well its been going for 30+ years, someone must have been watching it.
At one time it was the sports channel offered by Sky and was FTA. Sky Sports only came into existence after Sky effectively took over BSB.

Dingbat 08-02-2025 14:34
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36190818)
what sports did Eurosport have? cycling and winter sports? i cant think of anything else other than the Olympics coverage
Cycling (world tours, including Tour de France, Giro, Vuelta, one-day classics, and cyclo cross), winter sports, motorcycle racing (World Superbike, British Superbike, occasionally American and Australian Superbike), 24hrs of Le Mans, various other car racing, Dakar Rally, tennis, snooker. And probably a few more sports I’ve forgotten.

ozsat 08-02-2025 14:42
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Speedway - British and Grand Prix.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36190903)
Cycling (world tours, including Tour de France, Giro, Vuelta, one-day classics, and cyclo cross), winter sports, motorcycle racing (World Superbike, British Superbike, occasionally American and Australian Superbike), 24hrs of Le Mans, various other car racing, Dakar Rally, tennis, snooker. And probably a few more sports I’ve forgotten.

Itshim 08-02-2025 14:54
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36190887)
dont you like darts?!
No boring :shocked:

Media Boy UK 08-02-2025 15:37
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36190899)
At one time it was the sports channel offered by Sky and was FTA. Sky Sports only came into existence after Sky effectively took over BSB.
Sky Sports was known as The Sports Channel before Sky merge with BSB to become BSkyB.

*In 1988 EU pick Sky to launch and run an European Sport Channel.
*On February 5th Eurosport as part of the FOUR UK Channels on Astra 1A.
*Eurosport did close for TEN Days until TF1 took over Sky's share in 1991.
*Eurosport did merge with ScreenSport in 1993.

vincerooney 08-02-2025 23:27
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
did anyone have first division football tv rights before sky got the premier league? i remember some games being broadcast but it wasn't many? how many tv games did whoever have it have?

ozsat 09-02-2025 08:01
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Th football league had been mainly highlights before across BBC, ITV, Screensport and Super Channel.

For about four seasons before Sky and the Premier League - Sky and ITV had the Football League live.

Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36190936)
did anyone have first division football tv rights before sky got the premier league? i remember some games being broadcast but it wasn't many? how many tv games did whoever have it have?

Media Boy UK 09-02-2025 11:06
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36190936)
did anyone have first division football tv rights before sky got the premier league? i remember some games being broadcast but it wasn't many? how many tv games did whoever have it have?
ITV did (only about 20 games per season).

Frazz 10-02-2025 16:02
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36190879)
So sad I missed it, how can I find it to watch :rolleyes:
You can watch it through Eurovision sport online, free to watch,no subscription required

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36190905)
No boring :shocked:
ISA pub game not a sport

Itshim 10-02-2025 17:15
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazz (Post 36191037)
You can watch it through Eurovision sport online, free to watch,no subscription required

---------- Post added at 16:02 ---------- Previous post was at 16:00 ----------



ISA pub game not a sport
Thanks but it was meant as a joke:shocked:

Honestly you could play world darts in different countries . Don't need to play with someone else . Just see who reaches the "score" with least number of darts.

vincerooney 14-02-2025 21:30
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
any news on any 360 software upgrades coming?

Mr K 14-02-2025 22:02
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36191336)
any news on any 360 software upgrades coming?
Aren't you happy with the current product? It is an 'upgrade'. I'd ask to be downgraded to a V6 if I were you ;)

vincerooney 14-02-2025 23:53
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36191337)
Aren't you happy with the current product? It is an 'upgrade'. I'd ask to be downgraded to a V6 if I were you ;)
nope i prefer it over the v6 now. took a bit to get used to but now its far superior in my eyes.

i just enjoy the software upgrades and new features. something which won't happen with the v6 anymore ;)

OLD BOY 15-02-2025 10:54
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36191337)
Aren't you happy with the current product? It is an 'upgrade'. I'd ask to be downgraded to a V6 if I were you ;)
I see you are still living in the past, Mr K.

There’s nothing wrong with the 360, it’s just not the TiVo. I certainly wouldn’t go back to the TiVo now.

Mr K 15-02-2025 11:52
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36191354)
I see you are still living in the past, Mr K.

There’s nothing wrong with the 360, it’s just not the TiVo. I certainly wouldn’t go back to the TiVo now.
Each to their own OB, but there are many that aren't happy after going from V6 to 360.
'Caveat emptor...'

https://community.virginmedia.com/di...g-time/5610914

https://community.virginmedia.com/di...-no-en/5617461

https://community.virginmedia.com/di...pgrade/5605919

RobboEdin 15-02-2025 12:12
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
The few who don’t like it, complain, but, of course, the many that love it, don’t have to.

Itshim 15-02-2025 13:31
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36191367)
Each to their own OB, but there are many that aren't happy after going from V6 to 360.
'Caveat emptor...'

https://community.virginmedia.com/di...g-time/5610914

https://community.virginmedia.com/di...-no-en/5617461

https://community.virginmedia.com/di...pgrade/5605919
My problem, is losing my settings/ recordings .

OLD BOY 15-02-2025 14:15
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36191367)
Each to their own OB, but there are many that aren't happy after going from V6 to 360.
'Caveat emptor...'

https://community.virginmedia.com/di...g-time/5610914

https://community.virginmedia.com/di...-no-en/5617461

https://community.virginmedia.com/di...pgrade/5605919
Just taking that first complaint as an example, let’s look at each one in turn:

My TV switches itself on several times a day and night when no one is even in the room with the TV. E.g. at 11.47pm last might I was in bed and heard the TV come on downstairs. I have to pull the power to the TV to stop it doing this

I had a similar problem a couple or so years ago. It turned out to be batteries in the remote control that needed replacing. If I remember correctly, it was the TV remote control batteries.

I have set a few things to record as 'new only' and it is recording old episodes in the early hours

I’m not sure what he’s talking about here. If you want to set a recording, you are given the option of recording new shows only. It works for me - never had a problem with it.

I have looked and looked and I still can't find where to manage my series links - it is well hidden!

You can’t, but so what? If you finish a series and don’t want to watch any more you can just delete the series link. So in the ‘View all’ section of recordings, press the bin icon and up come your options, one of which is ‘delete all & cancel future recordings’.

We need subtitles in our house all the time. Is it me or are they bigger??? We like the simple subtitle button old old remote.

The subtitles are the same as for the V6. You just have to press the ‘…’ button for the subtitles option.

New remote hard to use without looking at it. Old one had spaces between groups of buttons so you just knew what to press without looking. This one is a block of aquare buttons. Need my glasses to work it.

The remote control is the same as many I’ve seen and it is big enough. It also lights up in the dark so you can see the keys.

I couldn't find box sets until I read that to make them easier to find they are in Movies - really????

Well, I don’t recognise that at all. The box sets are under ‘TV Shows’, not ‘Movies’. If you go to ‘Movies’, you get, well, movies…

When I look at movies etc to whatch in my package (previously 'on demand moves or boxsets' and so easy to find) they are now all mixed together with ones that need paying for.

The movies you have to pay for are clearly marked, and if you want to see only the films in your subscription package you can select which package (ie Sky Cinema, Sky Cinema UHD, Prime Video, Disney+, Paremount+, Apple+, MUBI and Adult).

Clearly, it is your right to retain your TiVo software until Virgin withdraw it, but a lot of what I have heard said about it by serial complainers is either untrue, exaggerated or of no real consequence. The special features are different on each, that is all. You pays your money and you takes your choice, as they say.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36191384)
My problem, is losing my settings/ recordings .
I would say that was either operator error, someone else in your house changing the settings, or a faulty box.

Itshim 15-02-2025 17:42
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36191386)
I would say that was either operator error, someone else in your house changing the settings, or a faulty box.
Sorry i did not make it not clear, it's the reason I won't change yet:erm:

.

1701-e 15-02-2025 18:16
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
My TV switches itself on several times a day and night when no one is even in the room
My TV did that....
The One Power feature isn't liked by some Samsung TVs.

I just disabled One Power.

Paul 15-02-2025 19:11
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
I'm curious why would it be on when no one is in the room ?

OLD BOY 15-02-2025 19:52
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36191399)
My TV switches itself on several times a day and night when no one is even in the room
My TV did that....
The One Power feature isn't liked by some Samsung TVs.

I just disabled One Power.
But did you check the remote control batteries?

RichardCoulter 15-02-2025 22:52
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36191386)
Just taking that first complaint as an example, let’s look at each one in turn:

My TV switches itself on several times a day and night when no one is even in the room with the TV. E.g. at 11.47pm last might I was in bed and heard the TV come on downstairs. I have to pull the power to the TV to stop it doing this

I had a similar problem a couple or so years ago. It turned out to be batteries in the remote control that needed replacing. If I remember correctly, it was the TV remote control batteries.

I have set a few things to record as 'new only' and it is recording old episodes in the early hours

I’m not sure what he’s talking about here. If you want to set a recording, you are given the option of recording new shows only. It works for me - never had a problem with it.

I have looked and looked and I still can't find where to manage my series links - it is well hidden!

You can’t, but so what? If you finish a series and don’t want to watch any more you can just delete the series link. So in the ‘View all’ section of recordings, press the bin icon and up come your options, one of which is ‘delete all & cancel future recordings’.

We need subtitles in our house all the time. Is it me or are they bigger??? We like the simple subtitle button old old remote.

The subtitles are the same as for the V6. You just have to press the ‘…’ button for the subtitles option.

New remote hard to use without looking at it. Old one had spaces between groups of buttons so you just knew what to press without looking. This one is a block of aquare buttons. Need my glasses to work it.

The remote control is the same as many I’ve seen and it is big enough. It also lights up in the dark so you can see the keys.

I couldn't find box sets until I read that to make them easier to find they are in Movies - really????

Well, I don’t recognise that at all. The box sets are under ‘TV Shows’, not ‘Movies’. If you go to ‘Movies’, you get, well, movies…

When I look at movies etc to whatch in my package (previously 'on demand moves or boxsets' and so easy to find) they are now all mixed together with ones that need paying for.

The movies you have to pay for are clearly marked, and if you want to see only the films in your subscription package you can select which package (ie Sky Cinema, Sky Cinema UHD, Prime Video, Disney+, Paremount+, Apple+, MUBI and Adult).

Clearly, it is your right to retain your TiVo software until Virgin withdraw it, but a lot of what I have heard said about it by serial complainers is either untrue, exaggerated or of no real consequence. The special features are different on each, that is all. You pays your money and you takes your choice, as they say.

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I would say that was either operator error, someone else in your house changing the settings, or a faulty box.
What's 'of any consequence' varies between different people and their differing circumstances. You are again assuming that what's right for you is right for everybody & that your view is the only correct conclusion to come to when making a decision.

When the V6 is eventually retired I shall probably move over to Sky Q as they recently made a statement that it will remain available for the foreseeable future.

OLD BOY 15-02-2025 22:59
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36191410)
What's 'of any consequence' varies between different people and their differing circumstances. You are again assuming that what's right for you is right for everybody & that your view is the only correct conclusion to come to when making a decision.

When the V6 is eventually retired I shall probably move over to Sky Q as they recently made a statement that it will remain available for the foreseeable future.
We’ll, you won’t get those TiVo features on Sky Q either.

TimeLord2018 15-02-2025 22:59
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Yet Sky Q is very similar to 360, the undelete function and recording radio channels is basically the only real difference between the 2 in terms of functionality.

1701-e 16-02-2025 00:12
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36191403)
But did you check the remote control batteries?
It happened from Day one. Checked the VM community pages and disabling One Power was the answer. It's a non important feature.

RichardCoulter 16-02-2025 00:45
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36191411)
We’ll, you won’t get those TiVo features on Sky Q either.
True, but it will suit me more than the 360.

I suspect that Virgin are now starting to dispense with the carrot and moving towards the stick as the latest tactic is to send out emails saying 'You need to upgrade now', which obviously implies that you don't have any choice.

If the past is anything to go by they will begin to remove channels at some point, starting with the less popular standalone premium channels, then Sky Cinema, then Sky Sports before gradually reducing channels in the basic packs.

1701-e 16-02-2025 09:19
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36191415)

If the past is anything to go by they will begin to remove channels at some point, starting with the less popular standalone premium channels, then Sky Cinema, then Sky Sports before gradually reducing channels in the basic packs.
Based on past what?
Why would they withdraw carrying Sky sports?

ozsat 16-02-2025 10:48
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Only a 7 day EPG too - no 7 back and 14 forward.

A couple of the SD channels are actually higher quality video on VM - especially Talking Pictures.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36191412)
Yet Sky Q is very similar to 360, the undelete function and recording radio channels is basically the only real difference between the 2 in terms of functionality.

RichardCoulter 16-02-2025 13:43
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36191420)
Based on past what?
Why would they withdraw carrying Sky sports?
Past decommissioning of past STB's. A phased approach levels out calls to CS & the withdrawal of Sky Sports etc acts as a stick to get people to upgrade, without leaving them with nothing at all to watch.

---------- Post added at 13:43 ---------- Previous post was at 13:40 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36191422)
Only a 7 day EPG too - no 7 back and 14 forward.

A couple of the SD channels are actually higher quality video on VM - especially Talking Pictures.
Radio recording is a huge deal breaker for me. I realise I will lose QuickView, but at least i'd be able to keep this.

ozsat 16-02-2025 14:27
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
You can record radio on SkyQ but have to set each programme as a one-off record - no series linking on radio.

So if you wanted 'World at One' on Radio Four you have to set a recording for each day it is on - and then redo it for the following week. So five requests every week.

I've also found that radio recording requests often seem just to drop off the recordings list.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36191425)
Radio recording is a huge deal breaker for me. I realise I will lose QuickView, but at least i'd be able to keep this.

1701-e 16-02-2025 14:35
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36191425)
Past decommissioning of past STB's. A phased approach levels out calls to CS & the withdrawal of Sky Sports etc acts as a stick to get people to upgrade, without leaving them with nothing at all to watch.
.
I still don't see where you are getting the threat "withdrawal of sky sports" from.

Do you have a link?

OLD BOY 16-02-2025 18:51
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36191425)
Past decommissioning of past STB's. A phased approach levels out calls to CS & the withdrawal of Sky Sports etc acts as a stick to get people to upgrade, without leaving them with nothing at all to watch.

---------- Post added at 13:43 ---------- Previous post was at 13:40 ----------



Radio recording is a huge deal breaker for me. I realise I will lose QuickView, but at least i'd be able to keep this.
I think you are a bit starry-eyed about Sky. I hope you look into what it offers very carefully before you jump ship.

Sky Q is guaranteed to be functioning until 2029-30, when the transponder contracts run out, and Virgin isn't doing anything to compel its customers to change to the 360 at this stage. So Virgin and Sky are in roughly the same position.

I'd sit tight if I were you, but of course, it's your decision. Be careful what you wish for and prepare for a streaming only future.

Paul 16-02-2025 19:43
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36191435)
Sky Q is guaranteed to be functioning until 2029-30, when the transponder contracts run out
As has already been pointed out to you, Sky Q can function quite happily without the transponders.

OLD BOY 16-02-2025 19:59
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36191436)
As has already been pointed out to you, Sky Q can function quite happily without the transponders.
Not if Sky decommission the box you can't. Satellite TV will not be here for much longer, I'm afraid. Google it and you will see.

Paul 16-02-2025 21:32
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36191437)
Not if Sky decommission the box you can't. Satellite TV will not be here for much longer, I'm afraid. Google it and you will see.
Another of your made up posts. :rolleyes:
Show us evidence that Sky intend to 'decommission' Sky Q boxes.

Also, you really should try reading what people actually post. :dozey:
Perhaps you just failed to comprehend, Sky Q can work just fine without satellite.

As to "much longer" even if satellite ended in 2029 (which is possible) that's still years away. :sleep:

OLD BOY 16-02-2025 23:22
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36191441)
Another of your made up posts. :rolleyes:
Show us evidence that Sky intend to 'decommission' Sky Q boxes.

Also, you really should try reading what people actually post. :dozey:
Perhaps you just failed to comprehend, Sky Q can work just fine without satellite.

As to "much longer" even if satellite ended in 2029 (which is possible) that's still years away. :sleep:
You are arguing about nothing. I know very well that 2029 is years away - four years, to be precise, which is not long, is it?

And I would point out that if Sky failed to renew their transponder contracts, which is highly likely, given the expense, there would be no satellite TV.

But the boxes will still work - big deal. But Sky will want their subscribers to move over to Sky Stream to keep the income coming in. That’s why the likelihood is that they will decommission the Sky Q boxes.

Hugh 16-02-2025 23:33
Re: Virgin TV (2025)
 
It’s amusing when someone says "to be precise", then gives a rough* figure…

* "four years", instead of (to be precise) 3 years, 10 months, and twelve days


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