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That’s my first bet up for £35 now if she can win in November that’d be another £100 (£20 at 4/1 shortly after the debate fiasco, sadly didn’t add to it when she went back out).
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No one asked for her, no one voted for her, she’s done absolutely nothing of note in her tenure as VP.. except being “unburdened by what has been to what might be” and now suddenly she’s a cross between Mother Theresa, Joan of Arc and Rosa Parks. That said……compared to Biden she’s credible. Trump has lost his assassination bounce and JD Vance, seems to have been met with a luke warm reception. Still……she needs to pick a VP, and they need to debate ( I hope 2 times). I think it will be Trump , barring any electoral shenanigans, but it could be close. ---------- Post added at 22:47 ---------- Previous post was at 22:44 ---------- Quote:
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Trump is scoring own goal after own goal. Questioning her race is just vile dog whistling. He even offended the crypto bros by telling them good luck with “whatever they’re playing with” undermining what they desperately want - credibility.
I do think he could/should have kept focus on Biden’s suitability to continue, who knew what and when (in the Oval Office, among Cabinet and in the party during primary season). I accept these are contested issues (covered before here I’ve no need to revisit) but as the leader (then) in the polls it was important to keep the Democrats in the spotlight and on the back foot. That initiative is lost and they’re losing traction going out of their minds being called “weird”, which makes the accusation an almost self-fulfilling prophecy as nobody appears capable of taking it on rationally. |
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As Trump feels under pressure, the more he goes off script and gifts Harris voters. She's looking like the challenger to the previous two presidencies of white old men and Trump an incumbent.
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A debate, soon, would potentially be positive for Trump. He needs a reset button to get out of the current rut. Harris PR is doing a great job controlling the narrative.
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Looks like the Democrats have found an effective angle on Trump and his sidekicks that is hitting home: describing their views as weird.
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It's odd how effective the 'weird' tag has been for them. Considering all the allegations you can direct at the Republican ticket this one has stuck the most. They can't seem to deal with it without it looking weirder either.
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It works because he *is* weird, and it works on his hangers-on because so many of them previously warned he’d be a disaster if elected again and yet have now fallen trance-like into line. ---------- Post added at 09:30 ---------- Previous post was at 09:13 ---------- Also, last night he held a rally in Georgia and slagged off the state’s republican governor for refusing to find him 11k votes in 2020. Video clips are circulating widely … it obviously didn’t go down well even in an arena full of supposed loyal Trumpettes. Trump is consumed by a need for vengeance to the point where he’s more interested in settling scores rather than winning hearts and minds in places he needs to win and could easily lose in November. That’s weird. Clip: https://x.com/rpsagainsttrump/status...56-Kgau3lzowJw |
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I think the weird tag also works because it plays on Trump's undoubted insecurity and also the insecurities of his supporters.
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Kamala Harris has chosen Tim Walz as her VP pick. Walz is the one who first coined the phrase ‘these guys are just weird’ which has been driving the MAGAs nuts for weeks now.
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Only my personal opinion but l think he is a good choice.
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Who would have thought calling someone weird would advance your career so much?
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I wanted Pete but I’m didn’t have a strong opinion in favour or against the rest. Wiping the floor with Vance in any debates shouldn’t be beyond anyone of any standing in the Democratic Party.
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I'll be honest that took me 4 attempts to make it all the way through.
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Apparently the latest Trump-baiting from the Democrats is to call the Republican Party the Trump-Vance Party as Trump dislikes it. I'm guessing that Trump doesn't like sharing top billing with Vance!
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‘Lucid’ is never the word that first springs to mind when attempting to parse anything Trump says. And when you do get to the bottom of it you inevitably find its grievance layered on fantasy and garnished with impotence. For all he was attacking Biden for being unfit to run for a second term, he genuinely had no contingency plan in place should he get what he said he wanted. Biden is no longer on the ticket yet Trump spends significant amounts of time attacking him or doing some weird cosmic manifesting thing where he dreams up scenarios for getting Biden back on the ticket. Trump is a malignant narcissist in cognitive decline, consumed by rage, impotence and the fear that when he loses in November there will be nothing he can do to keep himself out of jail. And it is driving him absolutely nuts. |
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To be generous, I think he either thought they’d stick with Biden or they’d tear themselves apart picking a new nominee. Harris didn’t poll well before the unifying effort which was expertly done.
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The new VP nominee talks very well. If there was a primary process he wouldn't have been a bad nominee for the top of the ticket himself.
You look at the energy the Democrats now have and wonder why it took them so long to make this change. It's night and day. Although it's still, probably, marginally in Trump's favour it's a much closer in the polling as well. What a turnaround. Their convention will be so much more energised. He does a good job of making left-wing positions seem fair enough and normal. Just matter of factly saying women should be in charge of their bodies and others should 'mind their own business' for example. |
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The current polling is interesting. It shows that Harris closed the gap that Trump had over Biden: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...2024/national/
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It took them so long to make the change because those who were trying to keep Biden in the race needed to see there was no way he could win before they were willing to accept that their project was only going to result in Trump in the White House. Once they accepted that, they had to talk Biden back down. By the time all this was done it was almost too late. |
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Not going to pretend I knew Tim's name let alone anything about him till he was nominated but based on what I've seen and heard I like him, he's like a cross between Bernie Sanders and John McCain |
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Harris is now slight favourite on Skybet. 5/6, with Trump being 10/11.
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(Vance being closer to the top of a ticket, with obvious mechanisms - health another one, if unlikely. MO being top of the ticket at this late stage or winning as a third party seems impossible.) |
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Whether any of that is true or not.
1. Who would keep flight records of a helicopter trip from 25 yrs ago? 2. At least the article is very specific about who is white and who is black. |
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Didn't donny refuse to get in helicopters after the brains behind his taj mahal casino venture were all killed in a helicopter crash in ooh 1989? I'm sure I remember him saying that before he became embroiled in politics?
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He probably has got it wrong, not exactly watergate though is it?
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Truth doesn't seem to matter any longer, started in the US and its spread over here.
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The thing is, who fact checks the fact checkers?
When the whole of the media machine is after you, they will of course lap it all up at face value. Here’s an assessment, only one I could find that was in any way counter, which tells you all you need to know. This was when the lie count was only at 10,000 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wa...ews-2019-04-29 |
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So you managed to find a problem with 17 of 162? That notwithstanding Hugh's link said 162 lies and distortions which undermines much of your fact checking. For instance; 4-5 isn't an opinion, he states we have a lot of bad things coming up that's not opinion it's a statement his opinion is on how bad it could be and then goes back to statement by saying we'revery close to that and btw we're not so it's an outright lie. 6 his opinion of us being close to a world war is a distortion of the truth, I know we don't like experts anymore but they're all saying not only are we not close to a world war even escalation in Israel or Ukraine wouldn't lead to one but donny knows better than them? 24 lie 25 He's wrong and insulting And that'll do as the rest of it is just plain weird, saying that he knows exactly what was said when that's extremely unlikely, if he'd said it's been reported schumer and Pelosi did that then it would've been a lot more impact full than his gibberish and the other nonsense about not being able to pass her bar exam when the certificate is hanging on her wall |
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Weird. He is most definitely not OK. At this point it’s not even odd to wonder if he’s going to make it to November as the GOP candidate.
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Exaggerating how well, or otherwise, he’s doing among certain ethnic groups is an opinion depending on how he baselines it. If I find £20 in my winter coat I’d feel like I was doing well, against the subjective baseline of assuming there’s nothing in it. If I checked the bank on payday and had £20 it’d be problematic. There’s enough in his outright lies to get him with. Plus just calling him weird. |
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Trump did an interview with Elon Musk yesterday. Most of it was the same kinda stuff but he said there is another country with an Iron Dome that no one knows about......
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I listened to about an hour of it. There was nothing amazing about it, but in conversation, I couldn’t hear any signs of his alleged cognitive decline. No pauses, no stutters, no loss of direction or train of thought. Musk did well do get a few words in here and there. No, sorry, for those trying to push that particular narrative will have try something else. |
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The Iron Dome meets a very specific requirement that it’s not clear anyone else would need. Who is likely to find themselves under frequent short range, limited warning rocket or missile attack from an aggressor that (ordinarily) they couldn’t just blow out of existence with their own military strength due to the densely populated areas they are operated from. That said, you’d perhaps not rule out South Korea, the Saudis, or the smaller oil rich states in the Persian Gulf from developing more advanced systems than publicly stated in case things escalated in the region by dissident groups in Yemen, Oman or simply region wide tensions with Iran. Edit: if he’s taken literally could it be secretly on Taiwan? |
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Funny there was no video, I find it impossible to believe that this Billionaire tech genius couldn't have got the video to work if he'd really wanted it to. ;) |
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There’s also the small matter of him claiming there were 60 million people listening when the stream itself was showing 1.1 million.
Trump’s highly casual acquaintance with the truth is dangerous because he demonstrably lies and exaggerates all the time about anything and everything, even when it’s demonstrably false. Is that because he is in serious mental decline? Or perhaps because he’s speaking to a constituency that will believe him whenever he says anything, no matter how ludicrous? There is obvious danger in either of those scenarios. |
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Wonder if Elon is on a promise (of something/many things). Seem like Don might be a President he can easily manipulate for his own profit.
Apparently Donny has developed a new lisp. Minor stroke, or his teeth are falling out? Some dentist is going to cop it big time... |
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I don’t see anything racist in that. If you’re referring to the phrase “import the third world, get the third world”."………….it’s not totally inaccurate. |
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He’s got form for that kind of thing with John McCain has he not?
Listening to a podcast yesterday (openly Democrat supporting) one suggested to guard against complacency that although Biden 2020 won the popular vote by 7 million votes and was outside the margin of error (sometimes comfortably) the Electoral College came down to 40,000 votes in just three states. Harris is polling closer to that than Biden was in 2024. |
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Only the Yanks could turn their electoral process into a spectator sport.
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Not that it stops us all spectating. :) |
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My point wasn’t to fault the analysis just a nod to the point Chris made to liken it to a spectator sport. We can all visualise it like half time analysis of a football game, what’s going well on the pitch, where, what needs to change to turn the game in favour of either side etc. |
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The debates will be interesting. |
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Turning the barrel over to scrape for excuses now... |
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Surely you mean "for those who have severe TDS*, and can easily translate Trump-speak to English" it’s obviously** a joke"
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**** was a joke that only those with almost debilitating TDS can’t see, or indeed refuse to see Or he was making a joke that receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom, is a lot better than receiving the Congressional Medal of Honor, because if you’re receiving the Congressional Medal of Honor….you’re most likely dead, or severely injured. |
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He didn’t say receiving it was better, he said it was better….
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It’s indicative of how far the standard of public debate has fallen in the US that a presidential candidate can make comments (or attempt jokes) like this and get away with it. Say what you like about the state of UK politics but nobody in public office could say anything remotely like this and not be hounded out of their job within a week. |
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