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Yeah l saw it as it was a utterly dreadful look and it gets even worse when one watches it again.

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I can’t imagine many people saving that on their DVR as a favourite.

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He told it as it is. You may not like it, but there was nowt wrong with what he said.

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They’ll act once it looks like house prices will collapse. That’s when the whole Ponzi scheme goes so the kitchen sink will go into saving it.

Capitalism is a good idea until you run out of future generations money.

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Actually, no. He said they were monitoring it and he reminded us of what the government has done previously when circumstances showed it was needed (furlough, energy support, etc) and he said it was for the Chancellor to decide if and when that was necessary.

Getting inflation down will reduce mortgages, so it was entirely relevant to say that.

Things are difficult, yes, but we ain’t broke yet.

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You could say that about socialism, and it would be more relevant.

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2 trillion+ of debt, runaway inflation and economic stagnation. At what point would you concede the country is broke?

:rofl:

Nice clutch at a straw. We’ve privatised all the profits from public services into windfalls. 40 year mortgages are bringing future earnings into the present. One off windfalls entirely created by spreadsheets and loosening of banking rules rather than increased wealth in the here and now.

Time to pay up everyone. We’ve run out of mugs to keep the pyramid scheme going.

It should nicely leave the Tories out of power for a good 10-15 years tho. It was meant to be benefit claimants and immigrants that got told tough, not working people mortgaged up to their eyeballs having the rug pulled from under them by economic incompetence. A nice wee drop in house prices to boot will see the more tears as unearned inheritances fall.

If the last 18 months have been a good laugh I can’t wait for the next 18.

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Despite all your prophesies of doom, jfman, the City has regained its confidence in us and we are in a better place than in 2009. Our debt level is high, but the deficit is now under control.

We’re not done yet, not by a long chalk.

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In what way is a deficit of £137bn in a financial year "under control"? :rofl:

You really are just a tiresome trope of soundbites from CCHQ.

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Our standard of living is worse than it was in 2009 as is our debt and inflation. The Conservative reputation for running sound finances has been shot to bits with Cameron's lost austerity years, Johnson's inadequate Brexit deal, May's inactions and Truss's failed tax cut gamble.

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You forgot Truss :rofl:

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As ever your ad nauseam imaginary unrealistic posts knows no bounds.

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The thing is 2010 had some things going for it fiscally. Or at least low hanging fruit to have an ideological attack against.

State pension age was already rising for women from 60 to 65, then men got lumped in to 67. Obvious attacks on benefit claimants through stricter ESA, and the introduction of PIP. The bedroom tax.

Nowt of that left it’s time to take the tough decisions and tell people it’s a pyramid scheme and they’re the lucky losers carrying the can.

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:clap:

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Corrected. So many PMs in so little time! :D

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Yeah, yeah. Remind me of my outrageous comments when the IMF gets involved.

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"Honestly, I’m not so desperate I have to refer to something that happened 47 years ago…"

(Which involved a £4 billion loan, as compared to Liz Truss losing the U.K. economy £30 billion last year…).

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Mine isn’t.

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Neither is Baroness Mone's or Matt Hancock's old landlords. But these aren't necessarily representative.

It's so bad here even well established politicians, having held high offices such as Foreign Secretary and Prime Minister's have to borrow money from their mates to get by.

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Yes, and it won’t happen this time because we have a more economically literate government.

You shot yourself in the foot with that comment, Hugh! :D

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An more economically literate Government which has increased the National Debt from 74.6% of GDP in 2010 (£1.3 trillion) to 99.2% of GDP in 2023 (£2.5 trillion)?

Mate, you just shot yourself in the foot whilst biting your toenails… ;)

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Er, a lot of that was incurred helping the poor through Covid!! Did you oppose that?

I thought, once, that this was a proper discussion forum. It’s just morphed into a Leftist horde. I will leave you guys to scrap amongst yourselves, for my own sanity and to stop you enjoying your self satisfaction in agreeing with yourselves.

I will disrupt your fun no more. Enjoy your lives, people!

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:rofl: Yes Michelle Mone is really poor :nutter:

:waving: it is a proper discussion forum, trouble is your so delusional you call people who have voted Conservative all their lives a leftist horde, whilst you're away perhaps you could put the cool aid down for a bit

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It was 85.4% as a percentage of GDP in 2019 having been going in the wrong direction despite almost a decade of austerity. :rofl:

I shall not miss your economic illiteracy.

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Cable Forum is not an echo chamber I'm afraid Old Boy. If you want to post soundbite opinions but can't back them them up with evidence then be prepared to come unstuck.

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I am not sure why OB came back. If you try and deny objective truth as a "debating style", you are not going to get many people agreeing with you.

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I think you are being a bit harsh there Ian. Who knows maybe we are living in truly halcyon days having competent, responsible leadership and are just too blind to see it :rofl:

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I know you and facts have, at best, fleeting moments of of congruence, but I’ll try once again to introduce some into the orbit of the black hole that is your, for lack of a better phrase, understanding of U.K. economics history, in the faint hope some reality may break through the Blue Event Horizon of your CCHQ indoctrination…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1687176602

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1687177331

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Exactly. Old Boy needs to acknowledge the lies of Johnson, accept the outcome of British democracy from a Conservative government and then move onto putting the case across for a future Conservative Government. One of which might be that the Conservatives are not afraid to punish their own leaders if they break the law - turning a negative into a positive and here the contrast with Blair might be used beneficially.

Pretending that it's a woke plot by remoaners is not going to cut the ice. And pretending that because there was no enquiry over a former PM's lies to Parliament should mean that all future Prime Ministers can lie without consequence defies logic.

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I'd just like to see Tory MP's being asked to follow the same rules we do. I wonder what will happen to my own local MP, who is currently awaiting a trial because he told a protester they should go back to Bahrain. Likely nothing, even if he is convicted. The sad thing is, I live in an area that is so deeply Tory, he would probably still win any election in the area, even if he is convicted.

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Everything I've read says that barring a miracle, the Liberal Democrats will take Somerton and Frome. I assume Uxbridge and South Ruislip will go Labour.

Not sure about the other two seats and of course has Dorries officially resigned yet?

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Don't know, but apparently she's been called a 'vacuous goon' by an SNP MP.
A commons bullying inquiry has found that a fair comment :D

BBC News - SNP MP cleared of bullying Nadine Dorries
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-65960992

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4 Tory MPs gone and 4% down in the polls, there's a nice symmetry there :)


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Glorious.

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