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I am on 5.01, is 5.02 just a box update that Virgin will do ?

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Yes. It takes a couple of weeks to go round the country. Avoids mucking up too many at once if there's any issues.

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4K out and intermittent 1080 out broke on mine on newest update.

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Scrap that, although the 360 doesn't auto adjust from 1080 to 4K like the V6 did.

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Paramount+ has been uploaded to Virgin’s 360 boxes today.

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UKTV +1 channels have just died for me, can't check service status page as that ain't working as usual.

Has anyone else on 360 got this issue?

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217 226 okay for me

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With our new contract we have swapped from the V6 boxes to the 360 box.

Any knowledge and advice on it would be welcomed.

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I think the things that irritate most people who complain about it are related to the absence of the ‘undelete’ facility, wish list function and the absence of the manage series links screen, all of which you soon learn to do without.

I am not sorry I made the change, and the most dissatisfied I think are those who want it to work in exactly the same way as the TiVo. The UI is much more modern and straight forward to use - simply uncluttered.

If you have anything in particular you can’t fathom when you get it, just post a question and I’m sure we will be able to answer it.

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Don't worry Den, it's possible to switch back , many have.

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Its saying upgrade to the 360 box on the discovery bar now but l can't upgrade until we have the 360 remotes.

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The 360 does remember and keep your favourite channels, unlike the annoying V6.
You can number favourite channels from 1 to 100 etc too.
I like that there are more channels that you can watch from the start, (not via the programme app either) including Sky Sports, in case you forgot to record something.
Seems a lot noisier than the V6 though.
Channel 4 only breaks up for me, even after the engineer had set my levels right. Must be another issue there.

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My V6 has favourites, and you can watch programmes from the start if you join them half way through (you just press record, then you can immediately go to the recording and watch from the start).

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What V6 doesn’t have, however, is Startover. There are many channels where you can start from the beginning of a program, even if you currently don’t have the channel connected to a tuner.
Your solution requires the channel to be connected to one of the six tuners to watch from the start.

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My V6 never always remembered to show my Favourite channels.

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Sorry :confused:

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He meant that sometimes his favourite channels were lost.

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TV360 & Stream have new firmware rolling out:

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...5/ba-p/5420457

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So how have you got on with 360 Den?

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Some bits are good but l do miss Wish Lists and Series links and one can only record on one box for recordings so one has less memory then before.

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If you had two V6 boxes upgraded you kept storage on both.

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You can record series links on the 360, Den. I do it all the time. You are given that option when you press ‘record’.

You can record on both boxes as well. Simply make the appropriate selection from the ‘Advanced settings’, which enables you to choose which box to record from.

It is true that there are no wish lists, but that was exclusive to TiVo. I never saw the point of that, to be honest. You can search for what is available, but not for what isn’t available.

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The V6 would follow series links from one channel to another - 360 you have to have a link for every possible channel the programme may be on. A real pain for thinks link Premier League football and other sports.

Champions League Football you have to have five on the 360 and so get duplicates when the game is also on Ultimate. 360 would only record one occurance.

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We had all three V6 boxes upgraded but only have storage on the main one.

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You should be able to record on all three. But it may not be obvious that it is doing, as by default it shows the recordings on all boxes in the same list.

Go to Recordings, then View All. You can change the filter at the top of the screen from "Recorded" to "Recorded on this box only"

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Thanks for that tip SP.:tu:

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360 has Watchlist.

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360 to me seems to me to be all 'fur coat and no knickers'. What you gain in a nice epg, you lose in in a lot of the tivo functions ( talking to your remote might be a nice gimmick if you're lonely, but could also get you certified ;) )

Each to their own, suspect it appeals to those that like iphones, as long as it looks nice , then that's the main thing.

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Sounds fun - but it's not that good ;)

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I can’t agree with you on that, Mr K. I haven’t missed any of those gimmicky TiVo functions.

However, in the end it’s down to personal preference and willingness to embrace change.

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I miss the tivo functionality of putting recordings of the same series in on e place regardless of channel.
On the other hand the talking to the remote is useful when watching the playback of American sports because I can tell it to skip forward a set amount to get past the adverts, annoying pundits etc.

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Why should anyone embrace negative change?

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They have to, so they will?

Needs must?

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It’s not negative at all in my eyes. Only the gimmicks have been left off.

I now have profiles and the quick microphone method to find programmes I want, and more streamers available as well. The things I can’t do that I could on the TiVo I rarely, if ever, used anyway.

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Once again you are extrapolating your own narrow preferences onto the entire population.

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Very true hate having to find programs via a streamer. It's the last choice. The only exception is I player, and I can count on two hands the number of time I have done that:rolleyes:

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Which gimmicks?

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QuickView maybe ?

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No he isnt.

The post clearly states "in my eyes", and how it benefits him.
Nowhere in that post does it/he mention the entire population.

(the "entire population" of what btw ?).

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Get how it benefits him , must be missing something can't see " in my eyes " anywhere

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As I say each to their own OB . But various forums seem to be full of people regretting changing from the V6 tivo to 360. You need to be sure of what you're getting before changing. Granted new customers have no choice.

The word ' upgrade' is often isn't the case with VM and designed to 'seduce' customers( same with the telephone service when the change to voip is definitely a downgrade) .

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I am giving you my assessment. As were you when you said:



---------- Post added at 20:35 ---------- Previous post was at 20:33 ----------

Why? You do realise that you can bookmark programmes on the streamers on both the TiVo and the 360, don’t you?

---------- Post added at 20:42 ---------- Previous post was at 20:35 ----------

But you always get some that regret the change, and they are always the most vocal. I am sure that many more are perfectly satisfied.

As I have said before, there are those who don’t like change.

When you buy a new car, surely you don’t expect it to have all the same features of your old one, do you? When I bought the car I have now, I found that it did not have a CD Player, but what I could do was stream, which gave me far more choice, but I bet there were those who didn’t like it. You have to change with the times if you don’t want others to regard you as a dinosaur.

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No, but it should have the features you want.

The CD analogy is fundamentally flawed, it’s a dated technology the world moved past. Every CD player installed in a car comes at a not insignificant cost across tens of millions of units produced.

Where the “feature” is software running on identical hardware to that which you continue to distribute the marginal cost of continuing to provide it should be at or near zero. It’s not provided as an alternative to something other users may want instead.

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You can’t please everybody, but things change regardless. Get over it.

As for CDs, that’s your opinion. Many of us have a substantial collection of CDs, but in the end, we adapt.

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It’s not my opinion it’s a fact that the vast majority of new cars come without CD players, ironically due to the rise in streaming audio.

However it’s good to know you still have a substantial collection of CDs. Perhaps indicating the slow nature of technological “progress”, and that not everyone will have the same uniform set of preferences as a consumer.

Television companies and platforms will likely cater to as many as they can for as long as they can since their revenue depends on it. The record label that made your CDs on the other hand has no ongoing customer relationship.

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I have no argument with you there. My point was simply that we all have to adapt to change, but some find that difficult.

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Why? You do realise that you can bookmark programmes on the streamers on both the TiVo and the 360, don’t you?[COLOR="Silver"]
Yes, guess the answers are ,can't skip ads , and paying even more that I do already :monkey:

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I don’t watch ads at all. I pay the premiums for the streamers rather than watch them. However if you watch the free versions, I agree that it’s a pain from the consumer point of view.

From the point of view of the broadcasters it makes perfect sense not to allow people to skip the commercials, given that advertisers pay them to be watched.

Make the most of being able to fast forward through advertisements through your recordings. Those days are numbered.

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Or watch the BBC. You'll be sorry when it's gone...

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As long as you can put up with the often woke content, that’s good advice.

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You mean content that is disagreeable to your point of view.;)

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I mean the woke content, which, yes, is disagreeable to me.

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Have you got any examples of this “woke” content?

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Any chance we could gently nudge the conversation back towards the 360? Please.

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This is widely commented on in other forums and it is pretty well known. I guess if you can't see it, that may be an indication that you are woke yourself, and therefore it does not trouble you.

For example, in the drama production industry, actors are chosen on the basis of their ability and getting a resemblance to the characters they are playing. Lately, the Beeb and some others have abandoned that principle and now actively work towards getting black actors playing white historical figures (but not the other way round), straight characters being portrayed as gay (again, but not the other way round), etc, etc.

Everywhere, we see men obssessing about being included in the raising of children borne of broken relationships while the woman was still pregnant - as if that was the norm - when we all know that this is the exception. Sadly, the simple truth is that most young men would run a mile in that situation if they could get away from any responsibility for maintenance or upbringing.

The BBC is on a mission to change attitudes, but the clumsy, blatant way they are doing it is turning a lot of people off the broadcaster completely.

Of course, it goes without saying that other opinions are available.

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Haha, indeed it goes go without saying.

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Back to the 360 as l press subtitles for a programme on one box and yet the subtitles come up on the other TV through the 2nd box as well.

Anybody else had this problem.

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Exactly.

I have two V6 boxes which work well and have been flawless since they were installed some time ago. Yes, the UI is a bit dated and clunky but it works and I'll stick with them until there is no option but to update or replace with 360 boxes. If at that time Virgin Media becomes even more expensive then I will seriously consider Sky Stream.

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Is it linking subtitles to the “profile” and not the box?

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Thanks for that tip jfman.

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If it’s pricing that’s a problem for you, Virgin Stream is cheaper.

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Since you can only get 1 stream box it seems it wouldn’t be fit for purpose?

I’m not entirely convinced it’s cheaper either. It might (I’ve not tallied any up) be cheaper than the “post offer” price nobody pays but it’s likely not cheaper than the retention deals around.

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Yes, you have a point in your first paragraph.

On your second point, it is cheaper because there is just the one-off charge. After that, it’s free and you just pay for the streamers you watch, assuming that you want to watch subscription streamers.

Re: TV360
 

Has software update 5.08 updated Dolby Audio in any way?

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The latest version of the 360 software is 5.09 on my boxes, updated a little over a week ago. I have Dolby Audio via my soundbar although what 'flavour' of Dolby - assuming there are different types of Dolby sound - I can't say. On my set-up it sounds very good.

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The real upgrade it needs is to change it back to a V6 box. ;)

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Oh l wish...

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Apparently in the ROI people can no longer get a 360, never mind a V6. It's either the streaming box for TV from Virgin or nothing!

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Given the snail like roll out of any sort of hi-speed internet in my area by openreach i'd not be surprised if VM didn't go down the road of getting customers to take the streaming box as an upgrade to go with better speed internet.

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A bummer if you want to record any BBC ITV or C4 stuff as they can't get the iPlayer or equivalent

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Just wondering why the Republic of Ireland should get UK TV channels. :erm:

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Historic overspill of signal north and south means everyone can view main channels and cable & satellite carry same channels

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The channels are sold to Sky & Virgin by the commercial arm of the BBC in the same way that they are to Holland etc, so people in the ROI indirectly pay for them via their subscriptions, I had no idea that they couldn't get the iPlayer though. If they can't record I can see that that will be a problem.

Some near the border can receive Freeview signals and, whilst Freesat is not officially available in the ROI, some people do have it along with generic FTA satellite boxes.

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Looking on virgin Ireland website, as they now only offer just the stream box there’s can record but is cloud recording.

Taken from there site:

All NEW tiny and powerful, ultra portable Streaming TV Box with cloud recordings

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Up to five of them too

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Are they actual recordings, or just links to a streaming service ?

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Up to 500 Hours to the Cloud apparently, although I don't know if that excludes certain channels.

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Seems like the way forward

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That doesn't mean they have the right ;)

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Quick question about TV360 boxes. We have two and if we pause a live broadcast it seems to stay paused for quite a long time, never timed it but have never seen it switch back to live TV after say 20 or 30 minutes.
I have just been down to my brothers in Woking Surrey and he also has two boxes but is not able to pause live broadcasts for more than a few minutes.

Is this due to storage issues on the hard drives or are there different types of boxes/software?

Is there a maximum time that you can leave the box on pause?

Re: TV360
 

Hi iadom

The main box with the hard drive buffers for around 3 hours.
The mini box only pauses for around 2 minutes since it doesn't have a hard drive, so if you want to pause a program on there and continue watching it then you need to record it.
.

To watch a paused program - Select the program on the main box and press Record.
On the mini box go to the Home page and then scroll down to the Continue Watching rail and select the program you have just set to record and press OK.

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Thanks for reply, TBH I had forgot about the 'mini' boxes. We have two full blown TV360's at home so can pause both for long periods, never left it three hours yet.;)

I will contact him and see if he has a main/mini box combination.

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The mini slave boxes will only do a few minutes. Best to hit record if you think you need longer.

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Not a problem for me as we have two full blown 360 boxes here.:cool:

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Still no way to undo deletions? Mum accidentally deleted a folder of recorded shows.

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Can you still Multiroom with TV 360.

I seen an story on internet months ago that Virgin no longer allow this.

Just asking.

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I have two boxes. I think now that they'll install stream boxes for multi room purposes unless you already have the cabling.

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Yes

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Not on TV360, no.

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I don't think it will ever appear. There is no recycle bin on the Horizon cloud system in Europe, so it would need re-coding of the core firmware both at the server end & the boxes. V360 is looking more like a stop-gap system funneling customers into Stream where everyone will eventually end up.

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Hi everyone, it's getting near the time to get the New Remote Control and lose all my recordings, I have about 10 recordings I really don't want to lose, like ;Tony Hancock, Is there really no way to record these programs onto another recorder, perhaps by the SCSI Adapter, I was hoping for some clever techs out there. Forgive me if I'm posting in the wrong place.

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Are they not available on demand?

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If you are already on the V6 box you don't need to upgrade. The are just trying to get people to move over to the new box to make things easier for them and not you. Don't click on anything to start upgrading and you can stay on the V6.

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If you've got one of the old tivo boxes (not V6), it is possible via the scart output.
Otherwise say goodbye to your recordings...

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I seem to remember that the scart output was copy protected. HDMI output is copy protected with HDCP.

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The analogue SCART output on the TiVO 500 is unencrypted. Broadcasters would have to use Macrovision blocking to prevent this low resolution copying, but in practice they very rarely did, so if you have one of these boxes you should still be able to use it. The mini SCART on the V6 TiVO is disabled, but if you have a V6 you can keep it as they are still supported.

Re: TV360
 

Hi All.
I have just got this email off VM.


Email Heading.. Your TV box needs an upgrade.

Here is the contents of the email,
Hello Mike,
Just a heads up that the Virgin TV box you currently have is using old software, which means you aren’t getting the most out of your services.

The good news is, we can upgrade you to a new Virgin TV 360 box at no extra cost.

Choose how you upgrade

Sign in to My Virgin Media using the button below and request an upgrade. We’ll send you some bits and bobs in the post and guide you through the setup – no need to book an engineer visit.
or
Head to the ‘Apps and Games’ section on your telly box, select ‘Upgrade now’, then follow the steps on the screen. After that, we’ll send you everything you need in the post.

It may take up to 7 days to process your order after you request the upgrade.

What I want to know is... Can I just stay with the V6 set top box or will they force me to upgrade ?

Thank you for any help.

Mike.

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If you're happy with the V6, you may remain on it. I had exactly the same email a few months back, ignored it, and am still happily using my V6.

There have been many similar reports on the VM community forum, the conversion is voluntary.

Re: TV360
 

They are trying to manipulate people into thinking that changing over is an inevitable process that you have to do.

As far as i'm aware V6 users can still keep their (IMO superior) box and don't have to change over.

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Thank you so much Richard, I can now relax. :) I will stay with my V6.