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What did she do?

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Was she a protestor?

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Yeap! Not the first time...

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I'm pleased you did but hope it's not caused you to much bother

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3 dead horses for our entertainment, maybe she had a point.

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Unfortunate, without doubt, but the Grand National is what it is. It is dangerous for both jockey and horse. I know the jockey is making a choice to race and jump, but so is the horse. Credit the horse with some agency, I’ve seen many horses refuse.

The element of danger in the National makes it special, it’s the F1 of horse racing.

These magnificent horses are elite, have been specifically bred over centuries and trained to do what they do, and they are treated like royalty. They provide entertainment and thousands of jobs.

If it wasn’t for horse racing these horses wouldn’t exist, and horses in the U.K. would just be expensive pets for the middle and upper classes.

So no she, and others, don’t have a point.

Protesters should leave a well regulated sport that looks after their animals well, and unfortunately encounters accidental injuries and spend more time going after people like this

https://www.wales247.co.uk/shropshir...t-of-her-horse

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My son bailed her out. Long drive from Bournemouth.:)

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No they don't have a point at all, nobody objects to protesting but a lawful pursuit being interrupted by illegal activity isn't a point it's a crime and that's without considering the melee at the first fence due to the horses being held in the parade area to long, it could've been carnage and they'd have been responsible

Those horses live better than some humans, what do people think would happen to race horses if there was no racing?

Interestingly the breeding over centuries can be traced back to between one and three horses iirc

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Indeed, see next post by Pierre about "suicidal horses"

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I meant more, did they know it was you!

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:tu:

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To paraphrase, the Grand National, a deliberately dangerous race where tired horses are whipped around a second circuit of the course increasing risk of injury & death, is "what it is".

The essential point is that it has nothing to do with the "magnificent" horses, rather it is all about the money: the wealthy horse owners and the betting companies. They claim to love their horses yet they are content to risk their lives. If you want to see the sort of people who own race horses, go here: https://blog.casumo.com/interactive/...ner-rich-list/

Let's not pretend this race (and other jump races) are benign. They kill horses, often by design. If that's your thing, good luck to you but it is not mine.

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It might not be your thing Ian but you are very much in the tiny majority here.

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I don’t think you said what you meant to say there… ;)

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I doubt there is a only tiny minority concerned about the issue Den. We are supposed to be a nation of animal lovers after all. All I am saying is that the race has a deliberate element of animal cruelty and danger. If this floats your boat, all well & good.

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A lot sports involving animals (and indeed those that dont) have an element of danger.

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Agreed but its the degree of danger and the intent that is different here.

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A few horses l fancy today.

Ayr 1.15 Hasankey to win
Ayr 2.25 Colonel Mustard to win
Ayr 3.35 Monbeg Genuis to win, Your Own Story and Undersupervision e/w
Bangor-On-Dee 4.00 Heartbreak Kid e/w
Newbury 2.05 Remarquee to win
Newbury 3.15 Jimi Hendrix e/w
Newbury 4.55 Glen Again e/w
Limerick 4.25 Rahmi e/w
Brighton 6.15 Intercessor to win
Brighton 6.45 Junoesque e/w

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Scottish National, I had Kitty's Light, Monbeg Genius and shockingly Undersupervision, was a better pick than it looks imo as when he's in the mood he can really turn it on, he's way to skitty and unpredictable though so glad I used a free bet for betting in Elixer De Nutz in the 1.15 on him

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l looked at Kitty's Light but thought she was a bit short in the betting.

Undersupervision one to avoid for me in future.

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Really, I got Kitty at 11/2

Yeah Undersupervision has talent but I don't trust it one bit

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Kitty going for an impressive hat trick today in the what was whitbread gold cup at Sandown, I like Revels Hill and Annsam as the distance could potentially scupper kitty from winning

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l have a few tips for today TD.

Sandown 2.15 Tea Clipper and Court Master both e/w
Sandown 4.35 Iceo to win
Haydock 2.05 Dream Together to win
Haydock 4.20 Royal Rhyme to win
Ripon 2.25 Soul Singer e/w
Ripon 4.10 Copper Knight to win
Ripon 5.50 Lakota Blue e/w
Punchestown 3.10 The Dabber e/w
Punchestown 4.25 Ballykeel e/w
Punchestown 5.30 Risk Belle e/w
Doncaster 7.15 Dundory e/w
Leicester 4.50 Contrast to win

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2000 Guiness today, favorite looks strong but I like little big bear and silver knott, Frankie has a chance to

1000 Guiness tomorrow, again favourite looks good but polly pot looks way to big a price to me

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What a way for Frankie to bow out :dmonk:

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The Ballydoyle twin pair finished next to last and last, as for Silver Knott he will be better when the ground is less soft.

l had to watch the race a bit later as we had family over but Frankie rode a great race to win it.

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As for today's 1000 Guineas the favourite will be hard to beat if it is forward enough but l am sitting on two horses at much bigger prices.

Rermarquee and 50s and Dream Of Love at 16s.

Other fancies today are as follows.

Newmarket 1.50 HMS President and Torcello both e/w
Newmarket 2.25 Tarjamah e/w
Newmarket 3.00 Life In Motion to win
Newmarket 3.40 Remarquee and Dream of Love both e/w
Hamilton 4.58 Kats Bob to win
Leopardstown 2.50 Villanova Queen to win

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You Billy in action a couple of times at Ascot today including in the Victoria Cup which traditionally is a really competitive race

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l had the winner of the Victoria Cup by some sort of miracle as l avoided the first 2 in the betting.

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I had vafortino place

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Yeah l looked at him as he had good form like the winner.

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Summerghand racing later today, a very special horse to me and even at 16/1 I wouldn't rule him out

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Summerghand is a wonderful old servant and will hit the winning post sometime this season, not sure its today though TD.

A great card at the Knavesmire today though or as some say the Deauville of the North.

A few fancies today though.

York 1.50 Crystal Delight and Thundering both e/w
York 2.25 Dakota Gold, Ghathanfar and Spirit of light all e/w
York 3.00 Emaraaty Anna e/w
York 4.10 Catch the Paddy and Theme Park both e/w
York 5.15 Billy No Mates, Kihavah and Vallamorty all e/w

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A few horses for today at York and Newmarket.

York 1.50 Mondammej and Nomadic Empire both e/w
York 3.00 Cruyff Turn and Tropez Power both e/w
York 3.35 Flying Honours to win
York 4.10 Great State e/w
York 4.45 Air Force One e/w
York 5.20 Chesspiece to win and Hope you can Run e/w
Newmarket 5.45 Bloomwithgrace e/w
Newmarket 8.05 Muir Wood e/w

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Any horses you fancy today TD as l have a few that l fancy as l am still on cloud nine with yesterday's huge price outsider coming in.:D

Newmarket 2.05 Acotango to win
Newmarket 2.40 Mutaany to win
Newmarket 3.15 Golden Passport and Signcastle City e/w
Newbury 3.00 Mr Mistoffelees and Raintown both e/w and Exoplanet to win
Newbury 3.35 Modern Games to win
Newbury 4.10 Top Secret e/w and Outbreak to win
Thirsk 4.52 Yazaman e/w
Thirsk 5.25 Mobashr e/w
Thirsk 5.58 Give It Some Teddy and Frog And Toad both e/w

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I like Mr Mistoffelees too and Forca Tiamo, Lieber Power has come right in also and the kings horse looks strong

Can't see past the favorites in 3.35, Modern Games and laurel

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Quite a few l fancy today TD.

Haydock 2.25 Bodorgan e/w
Haydock 3.00 Bradsell to win
Haydock 3.35 Mitbaahy e/w and Twilight Calls to win
Curragh 3.40 Royal Scotsman to win
Curragh 4.15 Carracci e/w
Curragh 4.50 Laelaps e/w
Goodwood 2.05 Yacowlef to win
Goodwood 3.10 Agaggio to win
York 1.35 Ey Up Its The Boss e/w
York 2.40 Fine Wine e/w and Bedford Flyer to win
York 3.50 Harlen Nights e/w
York 4.25 Reidh e/w
Chester 3.35 Heart of Soul to win
Chester 4.05 Paws For Thought to win
Salisbury 6.40 Awtaar e/w
Salisbury 8.40 Songo to win

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Royal Scotsman does look strong, Paddington and High Royal could run him close though

I like killbegs warrior and gincident in the 2.25 although Frankie looks hard to beat to me

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My fancies for day one of Royal Ascot.

2.30 Modern Games to win
3.05 Asadna to win and Spanish Phoenix e/w
3.40 Mitbaahy and Bradsell both e/w
4.20 Isaac Shelby to win
5.00 Ahorsewithnoname, Irish Lullaby and Calling The Wind all e/w
5.35 Poker Face and Checkandchallenge both e/w
6.10 Ruling Dynasty to win and Berkshire Rocco and Raymond Tusk both e/w

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2:30 Modern Games, Inspiral
3.05 Asadna
3.40 Dramatised, Highfield Princess
4.20 Chaldean, Paddington
5.00 Irish Lullaby, Bring on the Night
5.35 Francesco Clemente, Poker Face
6.10 Vauban

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Some similar picks there TD.:)

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Yes happy about that!

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Todays fancies on day 2 of Royal Ascot.

2.30 Relief Rally to win and Gaiden e/w
3.05 Tarrabb, Mukaddamah and Don't Tell Claire all e/w
3.40 Grande Dame to win
4.20 Bay Bridge to win
5.00 Dunum, Perotto, Blue For You and Dawn of Liberation all e/w
5.35 Chesspiece to win and Sumo Sam e/w
6.10 Inquisitively and World of Darcy both e/w

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Tough picking today

2.30 Gotta love a grey, beautiful diamond, relief rally
3.05 Tamerama, lady eros
3.40 Grand Dame, Prosperous voyage
4.20 My pospero, Luxembourg
5.00 Ghaly, reach for the moon, bless him
5.35 Gregory, peking opera, chesspiece
6.10 Johnnas Brahms, Maximum Impact

Not sure about Adayer, Astro King or dual identity, might have them as well

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My fancies for day three of Royal Ascot and it does not get easier.

2.30 Noche Magica and Thunder Max both e/w
3.05 Tagabawa to win and Desert Hero and Struth both e/w
3.40 Midnight Mile and Climate Friendly both e/w
4.20 Subjectionist and Yibir both e/w
5.00 Docklands to win and Bless and Highbank both e/w
5.35 Torito to win and Bold Act and Oviedo both e/w
6.10 Vafortino, Spangled Mac and Great Max all e/w

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3:00 Newbury looks a good race, Bless Him, Spangled Mac and Classic look good to me and then there's Summerghand in 3.15 Ripon

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l am waiting on the course going reports then l will pick a few for here.

Summerghand currently is a bit too short in the betting for me.

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A few l fancy today TD.

Ripon 2.40 Marks Choice and Prince Of Bel Lir both e/w
Ripon 3.15 Anthem National e/w and Monsieur Kodi to win
Ripon 3.50 Dungar Glory e/w
Curragh 2.52 Female Soldier to win
Curragh 5.10 Turbelence to win
Newbury 3.00 Scholarship and Open Mind both e/w
Newmarket 2.05 Music Society e/w and Strike to win
Doncaster 5.25 Rocket Rod to win and Archduke Ferdinand e/w

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Could be Summerghands last race today in the Ayr gold cup, I hope he goes out with a bang but suspect the ground might be against the old boy

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Ground definitely TD plus the added burden of top weight.

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03:00 Warwick is a genuine Grand National trial, plenty of competition today but I'd say Percussion has a good ew chance at least

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A tricky race as l fancy Malina Girl to win and Volcano e/w.

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Millers House in 3.15 Mayden looks way to big to me

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Great minds think alike.;)

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2.25 ascot is a race Dan Skelton targets every year, he's got three entries but one is massively on the drift, I like Bad in this race anyway

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Jockey used him up far too soon imho.

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Cheltenham starts tomorrow :)

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l had Slade Steel in the first and Gaelic Warrior at 8/1 ante post in the second race.

The third race was a disaster with Trelawne falling early.

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Been a good day so far :erm:

Slade steel and fire fox in first
Gaelic warrior and Quiloxios in second
Slate man
Lossimouth and Maries Rock
Batman cirac and Milan Tino
Embassy gardens and corbetts Cross in last

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The middle of the card was crap for me but Corbetts Cross turned up for me in the last.

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Not really feeling it anymore, the guy I used to bet with died last year and it kind sucked the joy out of it for me. My selections on day one were good but I never put any thought into multis which sucked as it could've been a great day

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Today was a pretty good day, had

Ballyburn
Stay away faye, fact to file
Lager Dan
El Fabiliho, Johnbon
Delta Work, Minela Indo
Jasmin De Vax, Jalon D'ourdairies

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Well done as l had Fact To File at 7/1 NRNB, Langer Dan who won the same race last year at 13/1 NRNB, Captain Guinness 16/1 NRNB and Unexpected Guest at 12s.:)

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Today l like

Iroko
Le Milos, Gabby Cross
Envoi Allen, Buddy One
Sire de Berlais and Dashel Drasher
Theatre Man at 12s NRNB , Crebilly and Arctic Bresil
Golden Ace and Dysart Enos
Dom of Mary, Whacker Clan and Cool Survivor in the lucky last

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I had

Facile Vega, Grey Dawning (ante post)
Le Milos
Envoi Allen, Stage Star
Teahpou (ante post)
Crebilly
Brighterdays ahead (ante post)
Iknowthewayyourethinking

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Seriously cheesed off, got the first five, told you my heads not in it as I forgot to do the reverse forcast, don't even want to think about it, terrible day racing just got even worse

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One of my favourite horses is almost certainly running his final race today at 2.25 in the Ayr silver cup, the old boy is 10 now but he's definitely in with a chance today and it's not out of sentiment a small part of my children's inheritance will be riding with him.

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Are you talking about that old warrior Summerghand.

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Yes, he still looks good, he should retire though as he hasn't won since last year :shocked: that said he owes me nothing, in fact I owe him, lots

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Kristal Klear 17.30 Southwell looked short to me this morning and has come in even more

Also liked the look of international girl in the 19.30

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Hearing good stuff about Lulamba for The Triumph Hurdle, was over 20/1 the other day

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A lot of water to pass under the bridge between now and the Cheltenham Festival as there are probably a few talented horses that have yet to race this season.

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Cheltenham starts tomorrow.... :hyper:

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I am looking at a few to punt on but its very much price dependent.

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Grand National in just over 12 hours, I like

Percival Lagallois
Hyland
Iroko

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Myself and my wife will have the usual annual bet, not picked yet.

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l like two of those TD.

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Quite like Surrey Quest, The Kniphand and Spanish Harem in the Scottish National

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Sadly not a great spectacle yesterday with Surrey Quest out early, Spanish Harlem taken out by another horse and The Kniphand losing his life sadly.

Sadly l had second at 66s each way.