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I wonder how many forests he could grow or save with that $44 billion.

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Well he's done it. Moved in yesterday.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/e...-b2214457.html

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We can’t lose.

He makes Twitter less of cesspit - win

He destroys Twitter and it goes under - win

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In all likelihood the same commercial and legal pressures that made Twitter hard to manage for its last directors will hit him as well

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He can lose 44 billion

This twitter cesspit thing I keep hearing about on here but never seeing on there is odd, anyone who annoys me gets blocked, simple as

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Ahh, but that’s the very thing about Twitter and Social Media in general.

You pick the groups and people you like and agree with, and block anyone you don’t like. So everyone festers in the filth of their own echo chambers.

I look at Twitter, but on this site you get proper debate, we’ll debate at least. Yes, you can ignore people on here too, but I get the sense most don’t.

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That's not really how I use it, if you're not annoying I don't block you and am happy to discuss most things, ends amicably enough most of the time, I only remember blocking one this year for instance, a maga nut that kept saying I was in the fbi

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I would like option B (and take Fakebook/Instacrap with it) Please. :D

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Totally agree.

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Think I do to, it's no good for democracy how easy it is for lies to spread and become fact on this behemoth sites, 200 people on the midterm ballots in America believe the last US election was rigged despite all the evidence to the contrary, these people shouldn't be anywhere near office, they'd be treated like the monster raving looney candidate at elections here but they've got a platform because of nonsense on sites like this being peddled as fact

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While true, the mainstream media and politicians have a share of the blame.

Its sad he is already ruining it...... The N word being used more,etc......

What a disgrace........

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Looks like he has fired UK staff this morning without any consultation periods or anything: https://twitter.com/MartinSFP/status...43443034046464

Musk is going to run into UK employment law.

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Indeed, offices closed, badge access disabled, employees disconnected from office email & slack....

Class action lawsuit filed over in SF too

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Standard type of procedure for IT staff. Otherwise who knows what info they could steal or damage they could do.

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Tell me you don’t know anything about employment law without telling me you don’t know anything about employment law.

Due to the number of redundancies being made both in the U.K. and the US there are specific processes required to be followed.

You cannot legally do what he’s done

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And people would whinge, if he didn't do things that way and data was stolen and systems compromised.

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Again, you haven't a clue what you're talking about, the WARN Act applies in the US and we have pretty much the same here.

There is or should be tooling in place to monitor, alert & restrict data exfiltration.

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Your comments are not congruent with actuality

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There are no laws that prevent a company locking you out of its systems.

As stated, thats standard practice. No one has been "fired" yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-63511430

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Odd, I've spoken to two UK employees & 3 in SF all confirming they have.

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Musk's twitter account has been suspended :rofl:

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Superb !!!!!

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Have to disagree, Paul - it happens in some exceptional circumstances, but I haven’t seen it as "standard practice" in the 40 years I worked in IT & Business (usually when someone is know to be a "problem").

I’ve been made redundant five times (and been put "at risk" two more times), and never been locked out of systems whilst the redundancy process took place; I’ve also had to run redundancy processes a couple of times, and only in one case did we lock someone out, and that was because they had made it known they were going to be a problem if redundancies were going to happen (but he was still paid until the redundancy process was completed, and his package was agreed).

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You can disagree all you want, that wont change the fact its normal.
I have been made redundant three times, and in all cases all my access was removed straight away.

I have also been the administrator of countless systems in my working life, and its always been standard practice to remove such access as soon as anyone is made redundant (or fired). In some cases, as soon as they resign (and go on "gardening" leave).

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We’ve obviously had different experiences.

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I think it depends on the employee and the role. I’ve seen people supervised by security and escorted from site, ensuring they do not access the network, no doubt their accounts would also have been immediately suspended, when made redundant/ fired.

And others have access whilst on garden leave right up until the day they officially leave.

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:tu:

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Removing access to slack and email is to minimise the internal chatter

Done properly code repositories should be protected by sso and adaptive mfa at a minimum
SSH keys can be easily rotated out and if ldap is used those accounts should be managed via the upstream iam/iga

These are the two most important things to protect

Yes and if they are,they should all sue...... I dont think ya can just let someone go w/no reason??

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I thought you lived in the USA?

49 out of the 50 States have "at will" employment laws…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment

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Employment laws, or lack of them, is big issue in America.

Watch this U.S expat, explain differences between American employment vs UK’s.

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I'm that unlucky one that gets to work up until his last day, it's happened to me three out of four times when redundant now.

I applied and got voluntary redundancy back in May, I was accepted and could have gone the same day I was informed, but told them I wanted to work another two weeks to finish off the report I was working on (I had already told the customer that was my plan). The manager sent me comments on the report on the Friday afternoon which was my last day, he thought I was going to respond to them then, yea right!

In contrast, some people were sent off site immediately.

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Apparently some of the sacked workers are now being asked to come back, apparently they were sacked before the management realised how important they are to the company

I'm struggling to believe this tbh

Apparently the engineers were ranked by lines of code written and the bottom percentage fired, meaning the got rid of their best people working on the most challenging projects

How likely is this?

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I’ve seen multiple accounts on twitter itself over the past several days referencing the ‘lines of code’ criterion for sacking people. It depends who was running the dismissals I guess. I’ve seen some pretty crass redundancy processes in my time and (with apologies to anyone here working in HR) I’ve seen some pretty ludicrous HR procedures ostensibly intended to facilitate managing a large workforce but actually doing little more than to reduce the HR department’s workload and to allow them to claim certain tasks have been done when in reality nothing could be further from the truth. I’ve seen people made redundant who should never have been made redundant, I’ve seen people get internal promotions where their single skill is gaming the HR department’s ‘competency based interview’ process. I’ve seen people subjected to patronising ‘support’ interviews for being sick for a week, despite it being their only illness in years, simply because a number on a database triggered a procedure.

Yes, if Twitter’s HR department is anywhere near the process, I’d say these reports are entirely credible.

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Just seems shambolic, to have spent this much on it to be making these mistakes is ridiculous, mind you so is driving off your advertisers and users in droves, starting to think musk might not be as smart as he's led us to believe

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The Times also reported that people were asked to submit written proof of code. They're reporting today that Twitter is now telling some of those fired to come back because they were mistakenly made redundant, possibly because some idiot decided to fire them because of a smaller volume of code which could well mean firing those working on the most complex problems.

It's hard to know what to make of Musk because with PayPal, Telsa and SpaceX he is obviously not an idiot but his public profile over the last couple of years has been eccentric, to say the least. He has made very questionable public decisions and it's hard to tell how much of this is designed to attract attention as part of a well-thought-out plan and how much of it is just him being a megalomaniac. It's not clear if this Twitter purchase was one of these stunts gone wrong or not. He certainly seemed to try and get out of it until it became clear he couldn't without a big cost.

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BREAKING: New Twitter owner, Elon Musk, a former Democrat voter, comes out endorsing the Republican Party, for the midterm elections, voting day is tomorrow. On Twitter, he wrote:

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Based on whats happened since it 'owned' it, twitter seems an appropriate name ... :angel:

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I don’t know, Republican Party is the better party then Democrats. Democrats have gone too woke, crashed the economy, crime is up, inflation up, they have a serious cognitive issue with President Biden, their message has gotten lost, they’re going on about Midterms being about reversing Roe Vs Wade, when all Americans actually care about is the cost of living crisis.

Republicans are due to take back control of the House of Representatives, Senate, may be a harder target for them, but Biden is in trouble for 2024, if he lasts that long, it’s elder abuse keeping him in office, every day is gaffe day, the other week he said there was 54 States, in another speech, he started waffling on about Iraq, then blamed his son dying there for randomly bringing it up (His son died in an American hospital of recurring Brain cancer).

So I don’t know, Elon switching for Republicans, is fairly significant. I know Twitter isn’t for everyone, but I find it can be very resourceful, I get most news on there before it’s announced on various networks.

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The thing with tesla, space x and paypal is he didn't invent them, they already existed, he invested in someone elses idea which is perfectly reasonable, I just don't see how that qualifies him as a genius, very good at marketing and with a fantastic eye for an opportunity but the way people go on about him you'd think he was Einstein or something. I think you're right about attention seeking to, he used to troll famous people on twitter for attention after all

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:rofl:

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So far tonight I've seen

a verified Tony Blair talking to a verified George Bush about how much they miss killing Iraqis

a verified Joe Biden talking about stroking a very intimate part of himself

a verified OJ Simpson admit he done it

and a host of other verified Pope's, politicians, actors and dead people making all sorts of claims involving all manner of things and it's been quite funny for me, in the main, right up until someone listed some of them to Musk, he found it hilarious, kind of stopped being funny for me then and became quite sad

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1668172645

https://twitter.com/mikesington/stat...jdi7y3K-JBISgA

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1668172762

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The Law of Unintended Consequences strikes…

https://www.investors.com/news/techn...-free-insulin/

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As far as Twitter is concerned, Musk seems to be a completly clueless plonker.

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https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/11/...ertising-pause

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Seriously who gives a funk?

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Sequoia Capital, Binance, Qatar Investment Authority, AM Management and Consulting, BAMCO, DFJ Growth IV Partners, Honeycomb Asset Management, Key Wealth Advisors, Lawrence J. Ellison Revocable Trust, Litani Ventures, Strauss Capital LLC, Tresser Blvd 402 LLC (Cartenna), Witkoff Capital, Brookfield, VyCapital, AH Capital Management, Aliya Capital Partners, Fidelity Management & Research, Bank of America, Barclays, BNP Paribas, Mizuho, Morgan Stanley, MUFG, and Societe Generale, who have helped fund the buyout, and around 200 million active daily users…

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Twitter employees (those who managed not to get sacked ... yet).

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Thanks to paid verification Lockheed Martin and Eli Lilly both lost billions in market value thanks to fake verified tweets

Ooh 18000 posts

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What on earth made him think that was a good idea, it was obvious what would happen, the guy is clueless.

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Yup, they've paused it for now: https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ostor-accounts

It does seem he has just got high on his own supply and is making decisions based on how wacky they'll be or how much they'll 'trigger' people. :rolleyes:

There is also this: https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/sta...37099496255490

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Jesus got to be verified too… :rofl:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1668376652

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Credit to whoever got that name 16 years ago!

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We can mock Elon for his woes, that said, I’ve subbed to Twitter Blue, for shits n giggles, just before they paused subscriptions. I thought with all the backlash of fake accounts using branded names, past leaders and getting verified, Elon would reverse verification on sub accounts, but we got to keep it for now. No new account after Nov 9th can get verified, once verified via Twitter Blue, name changes aren’t allowed, but Elon tweeted this morning that function will be allowed from Friday, so some other changes are incoming, we shall see.

That verification is a powerful tool, not coz of the tick, in the sense that before Elon changed it all, only elites noticed elites and there is a reason for that, verified users can ignore everyone else, if they choose to, most do, so all those who vent at verified folk in their replies, no notifications will be sent.

I’ve already ranted at Rishi Sunak, Keir Starmer, Suella Braverman, using their handles, they’ll certainly have a better chance to notice it, even if they select to get notifications from verified users only.

Elon it seems wants a level playing field.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1668426345

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The original Twitter verification program wasn't to create elites, it was to fight impersonation and fraud

https://blog.twitter.com/official/en...ying-ball.html

https://help.twitter.com/en/managing...ication-policy

It's a recent skewing of the reason for the ticks by some groups that has turned it an assumption of it being an 'elite' symbol

https://news.yahoo.com/twitters-blue...173746328.html

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Twitters offices will be closed until monday 21st, it's being speculated that it's because thousands of staff reacted badly to musks work long hours intensely or leave email and took up the option to quit, not sure if this is accurate or being reported yet but there could be as few as 2000 employees left when offices reopen, what a mess....

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It’s looking really bad for that other well known left-leaning snake pit.

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1668763248

This graphic seems to be getting a lot more use lately.

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h/t @MisterABK

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1668765471

https://twitter.com/misterabk/status...ZLUktO5Z-9GS9A

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I thought this was a joke,

someone tweeted they were in charge of badge access in the HQ building and were laid off, musk himself called him after the lay off and asked if he could come back and help them regain access to the building as everyone was accidentally locked out,

I thought that pretty amusing until I scrolled through the thread and there was musk saying

thanks for helping out, you're a life saver

:shrug:

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Maybe he paid off the guy’s mortgage?

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Would you have gone back after they fired you ?

I suppose if the offer was good enough, most people would - it seems a bit odd though, you would have expected their access to have been killed when they left, so how would bringing them back help ...

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Has anyone here set themselves up on one of the Mastodon servers? An increasingly large number of people are doing so, especially judging by the fact that it’s almost impossible to access mastodonapp.uk at all this afternoon, and the original, mastodon.social, is extremely slow, albeit actually working.

I’m on mastodon.scot, which has a fairly niche appeal so hasn’t been hit hard today and is working fine. But I have a sneaky backup account set up on mastodonapp.uk as I’m not sure how viable any of the smaller services are likely to be in the long run as they’ll be harder pressed to attract the advertising or the volunteer moderator support that will inevitably be needed if Mastodon really takes off. If Mastodon.scot looks to be in danger of shutting down, at that point I can download/import into mastodonapp.uk which I suspect will have greater longevity, once it sorts out its immediate resource requirements.

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Havent bothered with twatter for years, so not really concerned about joining a rival.

I wonder how well it will cope given how its funded and the need to upgrade its servers.

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Well, it is decentralised so not all users are ever going to be a member of the original Mastodon.social server. What’s supposed to happen is you sign up on a server in your part of the world or which reflects your interests (Mastodonapp.uk is a popular one here; I’m on Mastodon.scot). Obviously each of these is still volunteer run, but each individual community presumably has a much more modest server load and only needs to be moderated locally.

Even though you join one Mastodon server you can chose to follow users from any other server and you can still search across the entire network for hashtags etc. The caveat to that is that each local Mastodon server has to know about all the others. All the main ones should interconnect easily enough but there’s no guarantee of universal cross-connectivity, especially if the admin on the server you’re a member of, takes exception to something about the way another one is run.

What all of this means for the costs and the time commitment of running a Mastodon server remains to be seen. The data you’ve found is for the non-profit organisation in Germany that develops the software and runs the original Mastodon.social server. It’s not currently possible to sign up for an account on Mastodon.social, though as described, it’s not necessary to be a member of that one directly.

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Correct, I would go back under renewed terms, no problem.

---------- Post added at 20:41 ---------- Previous post was at 20:39 ----------

Twitter will prevail as there is no alternative, I mean there are alternatives, but none that Twitter uses will use.

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Nope -

Not after some of the firing/hiring managers’ comments on the Twitter internal Slack, where they said they were only taking some back to get over the current issues, then were going to bin them again…

https://www.businessinsider.com/twit...2-11?r=US&IR=T

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BREAKING: Elon Musk just tweeted that Former U.S President Donald Trump will have his Twitter account reinstated after a poll in which a total of over 15 Million voted and 52% of those who voted, vote yes to bring him back.

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There goes Truth Social…

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He's not coming back, prefers truth social and says twitter has problems ahead, musk lost dozens of major advertisers and thousands of accounts for nothing, imagine how badly you're running a business for a guy who bankrupted two casinos to comment

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It was 6 actually. ;)

He’s got a huge following on Twitter, he’d be mad to ignore a large user base, more than he’ll ever have on his own Truth social site.

Musk isn’t bothered about losing Advertisers, says direction of Twitter should not be controlled by commercial interests or Wall Street, why he’s implemented a subscription service, that is due to be reactivated on 29th November, this after they’ve ironed out the ability to spoof a popular or branded account.

Jack Dorsey, one of the founders and prior CEO’s, regretted Twitter being stuck with just advertisers revenue keeping the site going.

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Trump could decide to close his Twiitter account himself but he's currently left it live without any new Tweets.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

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If Trump isn’t interested, then why did he urge people to vote on the poll on his TS site?

His Narcissistic tones, will get the better of him and he’ll return for the attention, I think.

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Wonder if he has any contractual obligations to truth social preventing him tweeting...

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/madelin...h=f4ac2e365ca0

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I thought he owned it ? Seems odd he would have restrictions on using it.

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Only some of it.

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They wont have anyone left at this rate.
I hope Musk is good at keeping servers online.

He is sure making a mess out of that site!!

I heard he told Donny he could come back but he hasnt,im not sure why...

Mr. Musk didnt treat him badly.........

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Ffs, twitter got hacked night before last night and 5.5 million peoples email address and phone numbers were stolen, probably got the bank or credit card details of anyone who paid for anything on there to I shouldn't wonder, who didn't see this coming when he sacked all the engineers, the genius running the place didn't even have the decency to tell anyone, norton did though fortunately

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No it didn't.

https://punchng.com/5-4-million-twit...hacked-report/

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Indeed, the data was available in the summer.


It was obtained using an API bug that was patched in Jan 2022.


There is no evidence they obtained "bank or credit card details".
In fact, they already had peoples information, this flaw just allowed them to get a twitter id.
(So no email address and phone numbers were stolen either).

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Just in case anyone here has been living under a rock. Musk is doing good work with his aquisition:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...-laptop-story/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/musk-...rship-decision
:)

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By "living under a rock" you mean generally ignoring social media ?

What good work has he done (besides slowly destroying twitter) ?

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I'd like to know how he is the saviour of the universe as well.

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The ‘good work’ Ramrod is talking about is described in the links he provided. Something to do with publishing censored tweets about Joe Biden’s son. Whether or not that’s good work I can’t be bothered to decide.

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Why don't you read the links?

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Don't worry he isn't. He may think he is but that's what being an arrogant, over-entitlement billionaire does for you. The man is a petulant bully: he sacks anyone who stands up to him and tells him thinks he does not want to hear and, at the same, time pretends he is the saviour of "free speech".

Don't worry, the only "free speech" he is interested in is what suits his personal and, now conservative, agenda. His definition of free speech is to allow back allow back neo-Nazis and white supremacist nut jobs to allow them to vent their bile.

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While I’m not going to defend him as ‘saviour of the universe’, he has had quite a profound effect in a couple of important areas - his advocacy of reusability and rapid prototyping has pushed rocket launch technology forward at a pace, so that SpaceX really is in the vanguard now. Spacex’s Starship programme is so impressive NASA has commissioned the company to produce a version of it as its next generation lunar lander. These sorts of bleeding edge projects are routinely handed by NASA to the likes of Boeing and Northrop-Grumman with little more than a nod and wink, so don’t underestimate Spacex’s disruptive ability here.

Also, Tesla, for all its imperfections, has grown from nothing to be a major, recognisable marque on our roads, has single-handedly shown up the established motor manufacturers’ half-hearted electrification programmes and forced them to up their game.

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Elon Musk is someone who bet lots of money on big gambles that paid off. He certainly had a knack for identifying investment opportunities and then for throwing everything at those investments to ensure they paid off.

I think after SpaceX the subsequent fame has gone to his head a bit and we're seeing a very public midlife crisis. He started to enjoy provoking reactions on Twitter, he tries to position himself as an 'alpha male' tech bro, he would always be seen with celebrities at Hollywood shows and I believe that this Twitter acquisition was a stunt that went wrong. He let the notoriety that surrounded his public persona run away from him and ended up making a $40 billion deal that he tried, then failed, to get out of.

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Utter lefty typical nonsense.

While it was a mistake, to allow “Ye” aka Kanye West back on Twitter, he’s now banned again, & he is black btw so how he can be a “White supremacist”, is beyond me.

Elon Musk had not allowed back White supremacists on, under old regime at Twitter HQ, Trump should never have been banned, he was a sitting president, the same stupid lefty pricks at Twitter, now fired and rightly so, given their inability to be impartial and only targeting Conservative/Republican accounts, allowed Putin and leaders of other dubious Human rights record to post their propaganda bullshit, but I didn’t and still don’t see you whinging about their accounts Being allowed on.

But he’s not unbanned Alex Jones, who I agree is a nut job.

Musk previously voted Democrat, but because of their stupid woke policies, stupidity during covid responses (that are still ongoing in some states) and the fact every city they run, turns to shit with high crime and high homelessness, he’s switched sides, serves the pathetic Democrats right, they have senile dementia ridden president, that if they cared much about, they would 25th Amendment him. :rolleyes:

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Yes, though I don’t think it’s correct to characterise him as simply the money man. At SpaceX, in particular, he consciously backed a particular approach to rocket development (and continues to do so), and was willing to back it to the limit of his available funds. The original Falcon One rocket was proven more or less at the last gasp. Obviously he’s not a rocket scientist himself but he clearly grasps enough of the history and potential of rocket design to make useful leadership decisions at SpaceX.

Then he leaves it to the likes of Jessie Anderson to actually build the things* and tell us all how clever they are. At least I think that’s what she’s saying, I get a bit distracted. :romance:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1670247932

* She’s a bona-fide Falcon 9 production engineer as well as front-person for SpaceX launch day webcasts

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This post will be filed under "I don't really know the facts and just follow the narrative"

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Well he has exposed that Twitter withheld a legitimate news story in an election cycle at the behest of the DNC that may have harmed Biden's campaign. I'm sure that is just the tip of the iceberg.

Twitter is not the centre of the universe, but it does exert more influence than it probably deserves and "Big Tech" should not be in the business of deciding what is fit for our consumption.

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Spot on.

What’s really going on, is that the left now hate the fact they don’t control the narrative. Twitter was their breeding ground for promoting woke policies, anyone who previously argued with them, ultimately got banned, they felt an extra sense of protection, but not any more and the left don’t like it.

It’s why all these pathetic lefty echo chambers are popping up all over the place, as an “alternative”. Makes me want to puke.