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Itshim 13-01-2022 17:54

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36109228)
But Create & Craft new owner did say on Tuesday: "In due course, Hochanda will merge the two businesses to offer customers a wider choice of crafts and suppliers."

What will happen to Create & Craft HD and Create & Craft Extra on Astra UK?
Will Virgin Media drop Create & Craft or launch The Craft Store?
Will The Craft Store drop a Create & Craft brand?

Create & Craft may become The Craft Store Extra.
Create & Craft Extra may become The Craft Store Offers.

Wow such excitement can't wait to hear more:D

locutus1974 13-01-2022 18:09

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Called 150 and got through to retentions, I was trying to counter the £5.75 price increase until my deal ends in December (got a deal on an 18 month contract last July.) Was told they cant do anything at the moment as the discount I am on is one done that was done by the operator at the time and they cannot beat it. Told them I would have to think about it as the incease was to much. Called again 2 days later went through to retentions to an automated message telling me they would like to offer a £6.00 discount on the bill for 6 months and to press 1 to accept it. So I will now be calling again in 6 months time to see what they can offer :):)

RichardCoulter 13-01-2022 18:23

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Originally Posted by locutus1974 (Post 36109283)
Called 150 and got through to retentions, I was trying to counter the £5.75 price increase until my deal ends in December (got a deal on an 18 month contract last July.) Was told they cant do anything at the moment as the discount I am on is one done that was done by the operator at the time and they cannot beat it. Told them I would have to think about it as the incease was to much. Called again 2 days later went through to retentions to an automated message telling me they would like to offer a £6.00 discount on the bill for 6 months and to press 1 to accept it. So I will now be calling again in 6 months time to see what they can offer :):)

I rang them three days ago as I usually have the price increase taken off, but not this time. I told them that not doing so would result in many accounts that I control being switched elsewhere (and I would do it), but that made no difference whatsoever.

I then spoke to my contact at the CEO office who said that she would see what she could do, so I gave her 7 days to get back to me. I've just received a call to say that I won't have to pay the increase.

It sounds to me like they thought they'd be strict and insist everyone paid extra.

I've never known an automatic discount on the phone like that before. Well done, it sounds like they are receiving a backlash against the price increase. Good.

ScottishSteve 13-01-2022 18:39

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36109289)
I rang them three days ago as I usually have the price increase taken off, but not this time. I told them that not doing so would result in many accounts that I control being switched elsewhere (and I would do it), but that made no difference whatsoever.

I then spoke to my contact at the CEO office who said that she would see what she could do, so I gave her 7 days to get back to me. I've just received a call to say that I won't have to pay the increase.

It sounds to me like they thought they'd be strict and insist everyone paid extra.

I've never known an automatic discount on the phone like that before. Well done, it sounds like they are receiving a backlash against the price increase. Good.

I was given a 12% increase every month despite being on a 18 month fixed price contract so I started looking elsewhere.

Did a bit of shopping around, found a Sky TV deal which includes Netflix 4K (which I already pay £13.99 a month for) and Sky Customers also get Discovery+ so when my current sub of that ends I will get 12 months.

Managed to eventually get a deal on broadband with VM (200m for £28) ironically a rolling discount of £10 I had has rolled over so paying £18 a month for the next 10 months.

Quite happy as SkyQ getting installed this weekend

RichardCoulter 13-01-2022 18:58

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36109294)
I was given a 12% increase every month despite being on a 18 month fixed price contract so I started looking elsewhere.

Did a bit of shopping around, found a Sky TV deal which includes Netflix 4K (which I already pay £13.99 a month for) and Sky Customers also get Discovery+ so when my current sub of that ends I will get 12 months.

Managed to eventually get a deal on broadband with VM (200m for £28) ironically a rolling discount of £10 I had has rolled over so paying £18 a month for the next 10 months.

Quite happy as SkyQ getting installed this weekend

Nice one. If people show them they mean business, it pays dividends.

As linear channels reduce and the streaming services aren't added (even if not free like some are on Sky), it beggars belief that they think that they can put up prices by 12%.

When fuel goes up by 50% in April, when the Government puts up National Insurance, when food prices are rising, do they really think that people who are just about managing will still pay for their TV service by going cold and hungry!

Itshim 13-01-2022 19:10

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36109299)
Nice one. If people show them they mean business, it pays dividends.

As linear channels reduce and the streaming services aren't added (even if not free like some are on Sky), it beggars belief that they think that they can put up prices by 12%.

When fuel goes up by 50% in April, when the Government puts up National Insurance, when food prices are rising, do they really think that people who are just about managing will still pay for their TV service by going cold and hungry!

They really should get a backbone , and say no to everyone ,as "we" are just costing others more . Yes I do it all the time , and yes I have got a reduction on top of my reduction, would love to understand the business plan they are working to. Now paying less than before the new price rise. Crazy :shocked:

1701-e 13-01-2022 19:41

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36109289)
. I told them that not doing so would result in many accounts that I control being switched elsewhere .

So threaten call agents is the way to go?

How many accounts do you control? Just out of interest.

I rang and actually got a price cut for eighteen months.

TMLeafs 13-01-2022 22:07

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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36109318)
So threaten call agents is the way to go?

How many accounts do you control? Just out of interest.

I rang and actually got a price cut for eighteen months.

Not the person you're replying too, but I control

My Parents - VIP @ £99
My Mother-In-Laws - 100MB, Mid TV, Unlimited phone @ £52.49
My Bothers - VIP @ £105
A friend - VIP @ £99
Mine - VIP + Extra box £115

Sometimes it's ring "thinking of leaving" and just ask what can you do for me and others it's a good few weeks of ringing till a good enough deal is offered. Took ages to do my parents on last time could even get though I think it was when the last price rise was.
This year seems like I may have to give 30 days' notice in the hope they ring me. Once BT has rolled out 500meg to our town virgin will be screwed, Currently, my parents, brothers, and mine can get 300meg which my parents wouldn't notice me and my brother would.

Pro's with sky
UHD Sky Sports
Cons
no UHD BT Sport

Media Boy UK 14-01-2022 13:56

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Ofcom is reporting that CNBC (UK) Limited has been given a new broadcasting licensed for NBC News Now

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your...cences/updates

SonicMaster 14-01-2022 15:15

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36109123)
Rumour: Zee TV HD replaces Zee TV tomorrow.

Bizasia is reporting that Zee TV HD will replaces Zee TV on Virgin UK Channel 809 from Tomorrow.

https://www.bizasialive.com/zee-tv-h...-of-uk-launch/

Just to note for anyone interested, this doesn't appear to have actually happened, as 809 still says Zee TV with the standard Zee TV logo, not the HD one used when Zee TV was previously available on VM in HD.

ozsat 14-01-2022 15:24

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The V6 box still switches to 576i - while the Sky HD feed has the 'Zee TV HD' dog which is still the standard 'Zee TV' dog on VM.

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36109533)
Just to note for anyone interested, this doesn't appear to have actually happened, as 809 still says Zee TV with the standard Zee TV logo, not the HD one used when Zee TV was previously available on VM in HD.


Mad Max 14-01-2022 15:53

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I just phoned to say that I would not be paying their over the top increase of £8.50 per month from 1st March, and before I could speak to anyone I got a recorded message saying that this increase would not be happening for the next six months if I pressed one on my phone's keypad to accept, which I gladly did.
I can only assume that they've had so many complaints about this that they have decided to drop the increases, but probably only to those people who have phoned up to complain/threaten to leave.

Media Boy UK 14-01-2022 16:15

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36109533)
Just to note for anyone interested, this doesn't appear to have actually happened, as 809 still says Zee TV with the standard Zee TV logo, not the HD one used when Zee TV was previously available on VM in HD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36109538)
The V6 box still switches to 576i - while the Sky HD feed has the 'Zee TV HD' dog which is still the standard 'Zee TV' dog on VM.

Bizasia did say yesterday that Zee TV HD was set to launch "Later today" (January 13th).

[Posted by Bizasia on January 13th]

https://www.bizasialive.com/zee-tv-h...-launch-in-uk/

Itshim 14-01-2022 18:49

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36109549)
I just phoned to say that I would not be paying their over the top increase of £8.50 per month from 1st March, and before I could speak to anyone I got a recorded message saying that this increase would not be happening for the next six months if I pressed one on my phone's keypad to accept, which I gladly did.
I can only assume that they've had so many complaints about this that they have decided to drop the increases, but probably only to those people who have phoned up to complain/threaten to leave.

Have virgin lost the plot ? Yesterday spoke to rep got £5 off . Have email confirming, saw this so just phoned ,got £4.25 a month off for 6 months so £9.25 off for 6 months and £5 off till end of contract :confused:

ncfc1902 14-01-2022 21:18

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36109549)
I just phoned to say that I would not be paying their over the top increase of £8.50 per month from 1st March, and before I could speak to anyone I got a recorded message saying that this increase would not be happening for the next six months if I pressed one on my phone's keypad to accept, which I gladly did.
I can only assume that they've had so many complaints about this that they have decided to drop the increases, but probably only to those people who have phoned up to complain/threaten to leave.

Thanks for the tip, just done the same myself 🙂

Media Boy UK 14-01-2022 22:35

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Wee bit of channels news:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36108562)
Eurosport to launch "pop up channels" next month.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/eurosport-...mpics-coverage

DS Forum is now reporting that Eurosport 3, Eurosport 4 and Eurosport 5 are now testing on Astra UK ahead of next month Winter Olympics.

Still to hear about Virgin Media UK doing any tests for them and BBC THREE HD.

jfman 14-01-2022 22:59

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36109549)
I just phoned to say that I would not be paying their over the top increase of £8.50 per month from 1st March, and before I could speak to anyone I got a recorded message saying that this increase would not be happening for the next six months if I pressed one on my phone's keypad to accept, which I gladly did.
I can only assume that they've had so many complaints about this that they have decided to drop the increases, but probably only to those people who have phoned up to complain/threaten to leave.

They did the same last year.

vincerooney 14-01-2022 23:05

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36109506)
Ofcom is reporting that CNBC (UK) Limited has been given a new broadcasting licensed for NBC News Now

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your...cences/updates

How intriguing....i wonder what this is all about

ozsat 15-01-2022 05:37

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'Later today' was two days ago - still SD this morning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36109554)
Bizasia did say yesterday that Zee TV HD was set to launch "Later today" (January 13th).

[Posted by Bizasia on January 13th]

https://www.bizasialive.com/zee-tv-h...-launch-in-uk/


Richardr 15-01-2022 11:15

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36109506)
Ofcom is reporting that CNBC (UK) Limited has been given a new broadcasting licensed for NBC News Now

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your...cences/updates

This is currently their online version:

https://www.nbcnews.com/now

Do they need an Ofcom licence to operate this through the likes of Roku, Amazon Fire, etc., or does this imply they are going to launch it on at least some TV platforms (Sky via Peacock comes to mind, if not a channel in its own right on EPGs)?

TimeLord2018 15-01-2022 11:17

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From Ofcom.
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/asse...applicants.pdf

Quote:

The following services are not covered by a TLCS licence:

Linear broadcast services available via the internet that do not appear on a “regulated EPG"

BenMcr 15-01-2022 11:18

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Originally Posted by Richardr (Post 36109678)
This is currently their online version:

https://www.nbcnews.com/now

Do they need an Ofcom licence to operate this through the likes of Roku, Amazon Fire, etc., or does this imply they are going to launch it on at least some TV platforms (Sky via Peacock comes to mind, if not a channel in its own right on EPGs)?

Well they are the VOD regulator

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2015...on-from-atvod/

Quote:

The UK’s Ofcom is to bring regulation of on-demand video services in-house, ending existing co-regulator ATVOD’s six year role in regulating the content of VoD services.

Media Boy UK 15-01-2022 23:12

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Originally Posted by Digital Spy Forum (Post 36109680)
Upcoming cinema renames...

January
17th – Sky Cinema Action renames to Sky Cinema Sky Cinema Vengeance
24th – Sky Cinema Vengeance reverts to Sky Cinema Action
28th – Sky Cinema Feel Good renames to Sky Cinema Killer Movies

February
7th - Sky Cinema Killer Movies renames to Sky Cinema Valentine
11th – Sky Cinema Family renames to Sky Cinema Harry Potter
21st – Sky Cinema Harry Potter reverts to Sky Cinema Family

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ment_100295590

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The Times is reporting "BBC licence fee will be frozen for two years".

Nadine Dorries, the culture secretary, intends to keep the fee flat at £159 for a colour licence until April 2024, which will mean a severe real-terms cut to the BBC’s funding. More to be unveil this week.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...ears-mprlz0fbx

Media Boy UK 16-01-2022 16:38

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Media Boy Views: Look like Ideal World is set to close soon due to them selling their EPG slot (Channel 22) on Freeview to TJC from Wednesday.

With Ideal World set to move to Channel 50 from Wednesday then Channel 51 from January 26th.

I am only thinking this way due to Ideal World selling Create and Craft last Monday to Hochanda Global Limited.

https://twitter.com/thecraftstoretv/...28111986081794

OLD BOY 16-01-2022 18:24

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36109731)
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ment_100295590

---------- Post added at 23:12 ---------- Previous post was at 22:43 ----------

The Times is reporting "BBC licence fee will be frozen for two years".

Nadine Dorries, the culture secretary, intends to keep the fee flat at £159 for a colour licence until April 2024, which will mean a severe real-terms cut to the BBC’s funding. More to be unveil this week.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...ears-mprlz0fbx

The government is minded to abolish the licence fee in 2027.

Hugh 16-01-2022 18:32

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36109838)
The government isminded to abolish the licence fee in 2027.

Interesting approach - she wants to scrap the licence fee from 2028 and find a new funding model for the BBC, whereas in the real world if you were changing a business model, you research, agree and trial, and prove the new business model, then move from the old one; it’s almost as if it were ideological, rather than economic based…

Legendkiller2k 16-01-2022 18:39

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36109838)
The government isminded to abolish the licence fee in 2027.

It'll end up being included in council tax at a huge cost to us mark my words.

spiderplant 16-01-2022 19:08

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36109838)
The government isminded to abolish the licence fee in 2027.

No need to worry, the people are minded to abolish the government in 2024.

Itshim 16-01-2022 20:30

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36109850)
No need to worry, the people are minded to abolish the government in 2024.

Out of frying pan and into the fire no doubt :shocked:

vincerooney 16-01-2022 21:48

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36109863)
Out of frying pan and into the fire no doubt :shocked:

haha ill bite my tongue as this isnt the place for politics but describing the current government as a "frying pan" is certainly a unique one. I'd describe them in a slightly different way.

When do we expect the BBC 3 placeholder to be added?

Media Boy UK 16-01-2022 22:24

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36109874)
When do we expect the BBC 3 placeholder to be added?

It not even testing on Virgin yet.

But I feel following may happen

107. BBC THREE HD (Was BBC FOUR HD) all areas
108. BBC FOUR HD (In all areas) - With BBC Scotland HD (Scotland only) and Channel 4 (Wales only) moving to channel 113.
120. ITV Wales SD (Wales only)
162. ITVBe +1 (Wales only)

vincerooney 16-01-2022 23:48

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36109878)
It not even testing on Virgin yet.

But I feel following may happen

107. BBC THREE HD (Was BBC FOUR HD) all areas
108. BBC FOUR HD (In all areas) - With BBC Scotland HD (Scotland only) and Channel 4 (Wales only) moving to channel 113.
120. ITV Wales SD (Wales only)
162. ITVBe +1 (Wales only)

where would BBC One HD go?

cheekyangus 16-01-2022 23:52

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36109878)
It not even testing on Virgin yet.

But I feel following may happen

107. BBC THREE HD (Was BBC FOUR HD) all areas
108. BBC FOUR HD (In all areas) - With BBC Scotland HD (Scotland only) and Channel 4 (Wales only) moving to channel 113.
120. ITV Wales SD (Wales only)
162. ITVBe +1 (Wales only)

To my recollection current Ofcom EPG rules say Channel 4 has to be in the Top 8 Guide positions. So VM can't move it to 113 Wales. Sky moved one of their own channels in Wales on their Satellite platform because of this rule.

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36109886)
where would BBC One HD go?

BBC1 HD English Regions are going to Ch 101 like the other BBC1 HDs on VM have been for years.

Media Boy UK 16-01-2022 23:56

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36109887)
To my recollection current Ofcom EPG rules say Channel 4 has to be in the Top 8 Guide positions. So VM can't move it to 113 Wales. Sky moved one of their own channels in Wales on their Satellite platform because of this rule.

Oops I did forgot about that Ofcom EPG Rule.

vincerooney 17-01-2022 00:24

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36109887)
To my recollection current Ofcom EPG rules say Channel 4 has to be in the Top 8 Guide positions. So VM can't move it to 113 Wales. Sky moved one of their own channels in Wales on their Satellite platform because of this rule.

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BBC1 HD English Regions are going to Ch 101 like the other BBC1 HDs on VM have been for years.

Do we know the date this is happening? i thought this was going to happen after BBC 3 launches

RichardCoulter 17-01-2022 08:49

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36109887)
To my recollection current Ofcom EPG rules say Channel 4 has to be in the Top 8 Guide positions. So VM can't move it to 113 Wales. Sky moved one of their own channels in Wales on their Satellite platform because of this rule.

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BBC1 HD English Regions are going to Ch 101 like the other BBC1 HDs on VM have been for years.

Will there still be a BBC1 SD channel available for the English reasons? Do we know where it will go?

cheekyangus 17-01-2022 09:06

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36109894)
Do we know the date this is happening? i thought this was going to happen after BBC 3 launches

Nope (unless something changed I didn't read), we know little for sure, the BBC have been giving rough ideas, no specifics. Different platforms will likely manage it at different times

The BBC said (somewhere, don't ask for a link I can't remember where) that the channel numbers for BBC3 might be less prominent on various platforms at launch. OFCOM said the platforms need to give BBC3 a certain level of prominence, but have something like a year to implement it.

RegularCapital 17-01-2022 09:19

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No sign of National Geographic or Nat Geo Wild closing on 1st February, as they have a full schedule, however not sure if this could be a shared feed as it was suggested that it was one of the proposals over at DigitalSpy.

Some screenshots from DigiGuide (set to their version of Virgin Media's EPG):

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2022/01/2.jpg

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2022/01/3.jpg

cheekyangus 17-01-2022 09:22

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36109902)
Will there still be a BBC1 SD channel available for the English reasons? Do we know where it will go?

Dual illumination (broadcasting both HD and SD versions) costs. I can't see it continuing on Cable, there's no need once the programming is the same and everyone on VM has HD-capable receivers.

I wouldn't be surprised to see changes to the Audio Description versions on 851/852, and 861-865 go HD too eventually. VM already use the same stream for BBC Scotland and Alba nationally, but use a different ID to point to that stream depending on your region, to implement the different channel numbers (my understanding of how it's done, feel free to correct those who know better).

Media Boy can probably remember, VM may have moved the SD regions to 860s range when Scotland/Wales/N Ireland regions went HD on 101 several years ago, rather than remove them immediately.

Media Boy UK 17-01-2022 09:42

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36109910)
Dual illumination (broadcasting both HD and SD versions) costs. I can't see it continuing on Cable, there's no need once the programming is the same and everyone on VM has HD-capable receivers.

I wouldn't be surprised to see changes to the Audio Description versions on 851/852, and 861-865 go HD too eventually. VM already use the same stream for BBC Scotland and Alba nationally, but use a different ID to point to that stream depending on your region, to implement the different channel numbers (my understanding of how it's done, feel free to correct those who know better).

Media Boy can probably remember, VM may have moved the SD regions to 860s range when Scotland/Wales/N Ireland regions went HD on 101 several years ago, rather than remove them immediately.

Scotland/Wales/N Ireland regions was always on Channels 861 to 864 before Virgin offers HD on Channel 101 in a Scotland/Wales/N Ireland regions on December 4th 2018.

cheekyangus 17-01-2022 10:45

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36109913)
Scotland/Wales/N Ireland regions was always on Channels 861 to 864 before Virgin offers HD on Channel 101 in a Scotland/Wales/N Ireland regions on December 4th 2018.

Yeah, but did VM move 101 SD versions to 860s or were those always separate streams? I can't remember this bit for certain. If they moved the 101 version the Series Links would continue to work, so I'm thinking they didn't move it that time as there were screens, to my recollection, that said "update your Series Links" on 108 after the change.

1701-e 17-01-2022 11:00

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36109920)
Yeah, but did VM move 101 SD versions to 860s or were those always separate streams? I can't remember this bit for certain. If they moved the 101 version the Series Links would continue to work, so I'm thinking they didn't move it that time as there were screens, to my recollection, that said "update your Series Links" on 108 after the change.

In NI BBC 1 hd was 108 and SD 101. When 101 became HD they closed the SD version so if you were an SD only series link person you had to shift over.. 861-864 were always there.

Media Boy UK 17-01-2022 13:18

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36109920)
Yeah, but did VM move 101 SD versions to 860s or were those always separate streams? I can't remember this bit for certain. If they moved the 101 version the Series Links would continue to work, so I'm thinking they didn't move it that time as there were screens, to my recollection, that said "update your Series Links" on 108 after the change.

I think Virgin that time my series links moved from channel 101 to 862.

I forget as my dog was put down that day. His wee sister was also put down this morning.

epsilon 18-01-2022 07:30

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4 new services have been added for BBC THREE HD (versions for England, Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland). Similarly 4 new services have been added for BBC FOUR HD - one service for each nation. Presumably to allow different channel numbers for each nation. Channel numbers are added but don't appear to be the final versions. More info to follow.

epsilon 18-01-2022 09:35

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All BBC FOUR HD currently listed as channel 107, which makes sense initially if the existing service is temporarily transferred to the new services on the existing channel number. However, BBC THREE HD is also listed as 107 for England & Northern Ireland and channel 157 for Scotland & Wales. In which case, BBC FOUR HD will have to move from 107. Maybe to 108 if the BBC ONE HD regions arrive in time to move them to channel 101. Nothing conclusive yet.

cheekyangus 18-01-2022 10:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36110028)
All BBC FOUR HD currently listed as channel 107, which makes sense initially if the existing service is temporarily transferred to the new services on the existing channel number. However, BBC THREE HD is also listed as 107 for England & Northern Ireland and channel 157 for Scotland & Wales. In which case, BBC FOUR HD will have to move from 107. Maybe to 108 if the BBC ONE HD regions arrive in time to move them to channel 101. Nothing conclusive yet.

Ch157 can only be temporary, platforms have been given a year to get BBC3 into Top20 EPG position.

BBC Scotland and Alba have Top20 requirements for Scotland, so if BBC4 gets shunted to 108, the only obvious place is 113 in Scotland. However Channel4 has a Top8 requirement so 108 can't be used for BBC4 in Wales unless it's fitted in instead of E4 on 106. I'm not sure on status of 113 in Wales. Maybe the "solution" will be BBC4 on 113 in Scotland and Wales if that position is viable vacant option in Wales.

epsilon 18-01-2022 10:36

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
113 isn't really an option outside Scotland unless ITV decides to remove the SD versions of ITV/UTV.

1701-e 18-01-2022 10:44

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36110041)
113 isn't really an option outside Scotland unless ITV decides to remove the SD versions of ITV/UTV.

Would that not just be Virgin media to decide as all TV customers have HD enabled boxes meaning that SD utv is no longer needed. Utv HD is on all packs.

epsilon 18-01-2022 11:05

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36110044)
Would that not just be Virgin media to decide as all TV customers have HD enabled boxes meaning that SD utv is no longer needed. Utv HD is on all packs.

It probably depends on the terms of the carriage agreement for ITV. Perhaps the 113 to 120 range is allocated to ITV. They could possibly reach an agreement similar to the one for BBC Alba. It could end up with all channels shuffling down a slot or 2 to fit the extra PSB services in (Freeview style).

Media Boy UK 18-01-2022 14:11

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
My TiVo boxes have got listings for both National Geographic and National Geographic Wild on 1st February 2022.

---------- Post added at 13:19 ---------- Previous post was at 12:50 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36110023)
4 new services have been added for BBC THREE HD (versions for England, Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland). Similarly 4 new services have been added for BBC FOUR HD - one service for each nation. Presumably to allow different channel numbers for each nation. Channel numbers are added but don't appear to be the final versions. More info to follow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36110028)
All BBC FOUR HD currently listed as channel 107, which makes sense initially if the existing service is temporarily transferred to the new services on the existing channel number. However, BBC THREE HD is also listed as 107 for England & Northern Ireland and channel 157 for Scotland & Wales. In which case, BBC FOUR HD will have to move from 107. Maybe to 108 if the BBC ONE HD regions arrive in time to move them to channel 101. Nothing conclusive yet.

Still not appeared on Digital Spy Forum.

Do you know if Zee TV HD is also testing.

---------- Post added at 14:11 ---------- Previous post was at 13:19 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36110048)
It probably depends on the terms of the carriage agreement for ITV. Perhaps the 113 to 120 range is allocated to ITV. They could possibly reach an agreement similar to the one for BBC Alba. It could end up with all channels shuffling down a slot or 2 to fit the extra PSB services in (Freeview style).

Quote:

The BBC proposed that the new BBC Three channel should appear within the top 24 slots of EPGs and that Ofcom should expedite this process and require EPG providers to implement this as soon as reasonably possible. The BBC also stated that, to help minimise disruption, it would rationalise its existing slots to release slots for the new channel in the EPG where possible. It explained that this could be achieved if the BBC successfully launched HD versions of all BBC One and BBC Two SD regional variants. This would mean
that the BBC would no longer require prominent HD and SD listings for both BBC One and BBC Two in England and Northern Ireland on Sky and Virgin Media O2, or across the UK on Freesat.The table below sets out the BBC’s expected EPG slots when the BBC has rationalised its slots.
Maybe BBC THREE HD will launch on Channel 157 until Channel 4 HD launches later this year.

We may end up with. (If channel not listed I think they will not move)

104. Channel 4 HD*
106. E4 HD
107. BBC Scotland HD**
107. S4C HD**
108. BBC THREE HD
109. BBC FOUR HD
110. Sky Showcase HD
111. Sky Showcase
112. Sky Witness HD
112. Sky Witness
113. BBC ALBA**
120. ITVBe +1 (back to all areas)
121. Sky Witness
122. Sky Max HD
135. Sky Max
136. Sky Comedy
137. Sky Crime HD
138. Sky Crime
139. SYFY HD
140. SYFY
141. Sky Arts HD
142. Channel 4 SD
143. Channel 4 +1
144. 4Seven
145. E4 SD
146. E4 +1
147. More 4 HD
148. More 4 SD
149. More 4 +1
156. CBS Reality
157. horror channel
158. Local Channels
159. Pick
195. 4Seven HD
196. 4Seven
203. 4Music


*Not in Wales
**Only in Scotland
***Only in Scotland

Aguero9320 18-01-2022 14:46

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
A deal for Nat Geo/Wild may have been re-negotiated with Sky/VM. The UK feed might be replaced with a pan-European feed, with all catch-up and streaming rights transferring to Disney+.

Phunkenstein 18-01-2022 15:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36110089)
A deal for Nat Geo/Wild may have been re-negotiated with Sky/VM. The UK feed might be replaced with a pan-European feed, with all catch-up and streaming rights transferring to Disney+.

There is no source for that - it was stated by the rather questionable DS poster who also definitively said it was closing in December 2021, then maybe January and now February… I’m sure the goalposts will be shifted again in due course.

epsilon 18-01-2022 16:42

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36110096)
There is no source for that - it was stated by the rather questionable DS poster who also definitively said it was closing in December 2021, then maybe January and now February… I’m sure the goalposts will be shifted again in due course.

To 2035 perhaps?

---------- Post added at 16:34 ---------- Previous post was at 16:23 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110063)
Still not appeared on Digital Spy Forum

I guess you mean on digitalbitrate.com. It won't show up there yet, it's service labels and SDT only at the moment. SIDs 2307, 2309 & 2313-2318 if you want to watch out for them on there - although only the England versions (2307 & 2309) will be active.

Quote:

Do you know if Zee TV HD is also testing.
I've not seen anything to say that it is. That's the sort of thing that would appear on digitalbitrate first, as a new service without a proper service name.

---------- Post added at 16:42 ---------- Previous post was at 16:34 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36109910)
Media Boy can probably remember, VM may have moved the SD regions to 860s range when Scotland/Wales/N Ireland regions went HD on 101 several years ago, rather than remove them immediately.

I think they changed the internal ID of the 8xx services to match the old "nations" SD versions. It fooled boxes into thinking any programmes had been recorded from one of the 8xx services. An option that won't be available for the English regions.

Media Boy UK 18-01-2022 16:52

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36110104)
I guess you mean on digitalbitrate.com. It won't show up there yet, it's service labels and SDT only at the moment. SIDs 2307, 2309 & 2313-2318 if you want to watch out for them on there - although only the England versions (2307 & 2309) will be active.

Yes I did mean DBR - my mind is playing up today due to putting my dog down yesterday (the last one). RIP (Say hi to your big bother and my dad for me)xxx

Here is the link for DBR so everyone can keep a eye on BBC THREE HD tests - https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...ve=209&lang=en

---------- Post added at 16:52 ---------- Previous post was at 16:46 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36110104)
I think they changed the internal ID of the 8xx services to match the old "nations" SD versions. It fooled boxes into thinking any programmes had been recorded from one of the 8xx services. An option that won't be available for the English regions.

Channels on channels 861 to 865 first appeared on Ex-Telewest in the early 2000's (Was not on network when my last dad joined in April 1999) But on December 4th 2018 Virgin removed them - just to reappear 5mins later when BBC One SD Channels outside was being remove from Channel 101.

All series links I has for BBC One Scotland moves from Channel 101 to Channel 862 that night. (I know the date due to my other dog being put down the next day).

cheekyangus 18-01-2022 20:29

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36110104)
I think they changed the internal ID of the 8xx services to match the old "nations" SD versions. It fooled boxes into thinking any programmes had been recorded from one of the 8xx services. An option that won't be available for the English regions.

I wondered if it was something like that. Thanks.

Hugh 18-01-2022 21:26

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36109838)
The government is minded to abolish the licence fee in 2027.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36109842)
Interesting approach - she wants to scrap the licence fee from 2028 and find a new funding model for the BBC, whereas in the real world if you were changing a business model, you research, agree and trial, and prove the new business model, then move from the old one; it’s almost as if it were ideological, rather than economic based…

Yeh, about that…

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...-fee-7zhv2jx9b

Quote:

Nadine Dorries backtracks from threat to ditch BBC licence fee

The government has pulled back from a threat to abolish the BBC licence fee from 2028 after Tory backbenchers claimed that ministers had failed to prepare alternatives.

Nadine Dorries, the culture secretary, confirmed yesterday that the licence fee would be frozen at £159 for the next two years. She did not, however, repeat a pledge to ditch the funding model altogether when the corporation’s charter was renewed.

Dorries, 64, tweeted on Sunday that this licence fee settlement “will be the last” but used less definitive language in the Commons, where she said that the BBC’s funding would be a matter of debate, adding: “It’s time to begin asking those really serious questions about the long-term funding model of the BBC.”

Dorries, who was admonished by Sir Lindsay Hoyle, the Speaker, for tweeting policy positions before addressing parliament, was repeatedly asked what alternative to the licence fee the government was proposing. “It’s not for me to decide until I have all the information,” she responded.

Pressed on whether the government would turn the BBC into a voluntary subscription service, Dorries said: “I haven’t mentioned a subscription service. I’ve said that we need to have a debate and discussion about how the BBC is funded.”
It’s almost as if it were raised as a distraction… :rolleyes:

vincerooney 18-01-2022 23:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
hahaha definitely used as a distraction and yet people again fell for it!

In regards to BBC One HD regional versions can someone clarify when it launches? I'll be due BBC North West HD and yet all i can see is articles from November saying its launched? I can't be reading this right? I may be being thick here so can someone clarify.

BBC 3 is 1st February isnt it so thats a bit clearer at least with an actual date

Media Boy UK 19-01-2022 00:49

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Virgin Media UK has just rebranded Paramount Network as 5ACTION:

-5ACTION HD is on Channel 150.
-5ACTION is on Channel 187.

---------- Post added at 00:49 ---------- Previous post was at 00:29 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36110023)
4 new services have been added for BBC THREE HD (versions for England, Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland). Similarly 4 new services have been added for BBC FOUR HD - one service for each nation. Presumably to allow different channel numbers for each nation. Channel numbers are added but don't appear to be the final versions. More info to follow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36110028)
All BBC FOUR HD currently listed as channel 107, which makes sense initially if the existing service is temporarily transferred to the new services on the existing channel number. However, BBC THREE HD is also listed as 107 for England & Northern Ireland and channel 157 for Scotland & Wales. In which case, BBC FOUR HD will have to move from 107. Maybe to 108 if the BBC ONE HD regions arrive in time to move them to channel 101. Nothing conclusive yet.

Test has now appeared on Digital Bit Rate:

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...ve=209&lang=en

epsilon 19-01-2022 05:23

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

“It’s not for me to decide until I have all the information,” she responded.
Something she should have, perhaps, thought of before tweeting about abolishing the licence fee. Maybe she has an oven-ready deal? ;)

---------- Post added at 05:23 ---------- Previous post was at 05:17 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110195)
Virgin Media UK has just rebranded Paramount Network as 5ACTION:

-5ACTION HD is on Channel 150.
-5ACTION is on Channel 187.


I'm not sure why but the name looks really odd written like that. Easily confused with FACTION?



Quote:

Test has now appeared on Digital Bit Rate:

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...ve=209&lang=en
Yes, I didn't think it would take long. I wonder if anything else changed, this morning's report should be interesting.

RichardCoulter 19-01-2022 11:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36109954)
I think Virgin that time my series links moved from channel 101 to 862.

I forget as my dog was put down that day. His wee sister was also put down this morning.

I'm sorry to hear your sad news MB.

SonicMaster 19-01-2022 12:05

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
5ACTION certainly looks prominent in the EPG, partly because it's got a colour logo unlike all the other Channel 5 networks which are in white, but also because it's the only spinoff available in HD.

Hopefully in time 5USA, 5STAR and 5SELECT will be made available in HD too. As it's not needed, the SD version of 5ACTION could be switched to a +1.

Media Boy UK 19-01-2022 12:31

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36110233)
5ACTION certainly looks prominent in the EPG, partly because it's got a colour logo unlike all the other Channel 5 networks which are in white, but also because it's the only spinoff available in HD.

Hopefully in time 5USA, 5STAR and 5SELECT will be made available in HD too. As it's not needed, the SD version of 5ACTION could be switched to a +1.

We may get 5USA HD and 5STAR HD when ViacomCBS deal is up with Virgin as both 5USA HD and 5STAR HD is broadcasting on Sky Glass.

5SELECT do not broadcast a HD Channel

Here is the list of channels we may get the next time ViacomCBS deal is up:

=== Own by Nickelodeon UK Limited (ViacomCBS Networks UK & Australia/Sky plc) ===
Nick Jr. HD
Nick Jr. +1

=== Own by ViacomCBS Networks UK & Australia ===
5 STAR HD
5 USA HD

SonicMaster 19-01-2022 13:08

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110243)
We may get 5USA HD and 5STAR HD when ViacomCBS deal is up with Virgin as both 5USA HD and 5STAR HD is broadcasting on Sky Glass.

5SELECT do not broadcast a HD Channel

Here is the list of channels we may get the next time ViacomCBS deal is up:

=== Own by Nickelodeon UK Limited (ViacomCBS Networks UK & Australia/Sky plc) ===
Nick Jr. HD
Nick Jr. +1

=== Own by ViacomCBS Networks UK & Australia ===
5 STAR HD
5 USA HD

Are you sure about that?

Sky says that 5SELECT is available in HD on Sky Glass:

https://static.skyassets.com/content...osition=inline

So does TV Channel Lists, although that can be unreliable:

https://www.tvchannellists.com/w/Lis..._Sky_Glass_(UK)

Media Boy UK 19-01-2022 13:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36110261)
Are you sure about that?

Sky says that 5SELECT is available in HD on Sky Glass:

https://static.skyassets.com/content...osition=inline

So does TV Channel Lists, although that can be unreliable:

https://www.tvchannellists.com/w/Lis..._Sky_Glass_(UK)

My early post was using information from RXTV:

https://rxtvinfo.com/sky-glass-channel-list-uk-epg

Media Boy UK 19-01-2022 19:50

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Is BBC One HD working OK for you on Channel 108 (England only)?

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/virgin-med...s-bbc-services

heavyside 20-01-2022 07:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110299)
Is BBC One HD working OK for you on Channel 108 (England only)?

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/virgin-med...s-bbc-services

I lost BBC 1 HD on Wednesday but when I tried again in the evening it was back broadcasting normally here in London.

SonicMaster 20-01-2022 08:18

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
When hunting out Treadstone in Catch Up, I noticed that VM hasn't updated the Channels menu under Channel 5 with the 5ACTION logo, it's still Paramount Network. I'm sure that someone will notice and update it eventually.

carbon60 20-01-2022 09:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36110367)
When hunting out Treadstone in Catch Up, I noticed that VM hasn't updated the Channels menu under Channel 5 with the 5ACTION logo, it's still Paramount Network. I'm sure that someone will notice and update it eventually.

They still have the Sky One logo on channels 109 and 110 on my Virgin TV Control app so it may take a while :)

OLD BOY 20-01-2022 14:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36110367)
When hunting out Treadstone in Catch Up, I noticed that VM hasn't updated the Channels menu under Channel 5 with the 5ACTION logo, it's still Paramount Network. I'm sure that someone will notice and update it eventually.

It has updated on my 360 in the guide.

Joedm45 20-01-2022 15:01

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110299)
Is BBC One HD working OK for you on Channel 108 (England only)?

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/virgin-med...s-bbc-services

I'm using a V6 and had no sound on 108 on Tuesday evening/wednesday morning. Not sure if that was related.

At first I thought it must have been my amp playing up but all other channels both stereo and surround sound were fine, just 108 had a problem.

All ok by wednesday afternoon :confused:

Media Boy UK 20-01-2022 15:37

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 36110416)
I'm using a V6 and had no sound on 108 on Tuesday evening/wednesday morning. Not sure if that was related.

At first I thought it must have been my amp playing up but all other channels both stereo and surround sound were fine, just 108 had a problem.

All ok by wednesday afternoon :confused:

RXTV did update a post today to say it been fix.

cheekyangus 20-01-2022 16:02

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carbon60 (Post 36110375)
They still have the Sky One logo on channels 109 and 110 on my Virgin TV Control app so it may take a while :)

Strange. 109 and 110 logos updated on Virgin TV Control apps straight away on the various devices (both main mobile OS) I saw when the channels renamed.

SonicMaster 20-01-2022 17:54

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carbon60 (Post 36110375)
They still have the Sky One logo on channels 109 and 110 on my Virgin TV Control app so it may take a while :)

Sometimes I have to uninstall and reinstall the app to fix any incorrect logos.

---------- Post added at 17:54 ---------- Previous post was at 17:53 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36110411)
It has updated on my 360 in the guide.

Yes the guide on my V6 had updated too, it was just the Catch Up menu that hadn't, but all sorted now, someone at VM must be listening!

Media Boy UK 20-01-2022 18:32

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Do BBC Three have TV Rights to "Green Eye Monster"?

warning before viewing link - https://twitter.com/bbcthree/status/1484225797879734276

OLD BOY 20-01-2022 19:23

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110459)
Do BBC Three have TV Rights to "Green Eye Monster"?

warning before viewing link - https://twitter.com/bbcthree/status/1484225797879734276

What warning?

Media Boy UK 20-01-2022 21:23

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36110469)
What warning?

It was the epilepsy warning I meant

Media Boy UK 22-01-2022 15:29

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
I got a following via twitter from Virgin Media about BBC THREE channel number:

Quote:

Hi MediaBoyUK, thanks for your tweet. Please be assured that we'll announce the number relevant to BBC Three in due course, please keep your eyes peeled for this ahead of the channel going live again next month.

OLD BOY 22-01-2022 15:43

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110668)
I got a following via twitter from Virgin Media about BBC THREE channel number:

It’ll be in next week’s listings magazines when they come out on Tuesday, no doubt.

Media Boy UK 22-01-2022 16:07

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36110672)
It’ll be in next week’s listings magazines when they come out on Tuesday, no doubt.

I am now starting to think a following may happen:

107. BBC THREE HD - All areas
108. BBC FOUR HD - Not in Wales
108. Channel 4 - Wales only
113. BBC Scotland HD - Scotland only
120. BBC FOUR HD - Wales only
120. BBC ALBA - Scotland only
120. ITVBe +1 - Not in Scotland or Wales
162. ITVBe +1 - Only in Scotland and Wales

Media Boy UK 22-01-2022 20:13

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Rumour:

Reports are in to Media Boy HQ that says local BBC News may launch this coming Wednesday (January 26th).

Information was given by a Virgin Media Viewer from BBC One NE & C (North East of England and Cumbria) area and a Virgin Media Viewer from BBC One South East (Kent and East Sussex) area via Twitter.

cheekyangus 22-01-2022 20:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110674)
I am now starting to think a following may happen:

107. BBC THREE HD - All areas
108. BBC FOUR HD - Not in Wales
108. Channel 4 - Wales only
113. BBC Scotland HD - Scotland only
120. BBC FOUR HD - Wales only
120. BBC ALBA - Scotland only
120. ITVBe +1 - Not in Scotland or Wales
162. ITVBe +1 - Only in Scotland and Wales

Even though I wasn't thinking it this way, I've seen things recently that suggest the same for some of those, making the remainder likely too.

heavyside 23-01-2022 08:09

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
There is now an announcement page appearing on 360 boxes in the London area detailing the need to reset series links for BBC 4 (channel 107) from Tuesday 25th January and that BBC 1 SD will no longer be available from Wednesday 26th January. BBC 1 HD is moving to channel 101 to take its place.

fox35 23-01-2022 08:19

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36110701)
There is now an announcement page appearing on 360 boxes in the London area detailing the need to reset series links for BBC 4 (channel 107) from Tuesday 25th January and that BBC 1 SD will no longer be available from Wednesday 26th January. BBC 1 HD is moving to channel 101 to take its place.

Same here in the North West. It says to make way for BBC3.

nomadking 23-01-2022 08:27

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Here in the East(West) region, the EPG is showing the local news programmes on channel 108 as well as 101, from the 26th.

ozsat 23-01-2022 08:46

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Got that in Oxford too

Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36110701)
There is now an announcement page appearing on 360 boxes in the London area detailing the need to reset series links for BBC 4 (channel 107) from Tuesday 25th January and that BBC 1 SD will no longer be available from Wednesday 26th January. BBC 1 HD is moving to channel 101 to take its place.


cheekyangus 23-01-2022 10:05

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36110701)
There is now an announcement page appearing on 360 boxes in the London area detailing the need to reset series links for BBC 4 (channel 107) from Tuesday 25th January and that BBC 1 SD will no longer be available from Wednesday 26th January. BBC 1 HD is moving to channel 101 to take its place.

That BBC4 info appears to back up MB's numbering. Though BBC have been reluctant to move BBC Scotland in the past, it's Ch9 and BBC4 is Ch24 on Freeview in Scotland, so I can see BBC4 being on 113 instead up here on VM.

offmore 23-01-2022 12:55

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
same message appering in west midlands area

epsilon 23-01-2022 13:38

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
It's nice to get a heads up on when changes are due. The BBC THREE HD pre-launch config. is still showing channel 107 for England & Northern Ireland and 157 for Scotland and Wales.

Media Boy UK 23-01-2022 14:15

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Well I did reporting a following last night:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110686)
Rumour:

Reports are in to Media Boy HQ that says local BBC News may launch this coming Wednesday (January 26th).

Information was given by a Virgin Media Viewer from BBC One NE & C (North East of England and Cumbria) area and a Virgin Media Viewer from BBC One South East (Kent and East Sussex) area via Twitter.


Dave42 23-01-2022 16:37

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110686)
Rumour:

Reports are in to Media Boy HQ that says local BBC News may launch this coming Wednesday (January 26th).

Information was given by a Virgin Media Viewer from BBC One NE & C (North East of England and Cumbria) area and a Virgin Media Viewer from BBC One South East (Kent and East Sussex) area via Twitter.

local news is showing up on guide on BBC One HD from Wednesday just checked

fox35 23-01-2022 16:48

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36110734)
local news is showing up on guide on BBC One HD from Wednesday just checked

Both Northwest Today and Northwest Tonight listed here too from Weds on BBC1HD.

epsilon 23-01-2022 17:35

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110726)
Well I did reporting a following last night:

I meant an official notification from Virgin, which we seem to be getting on the 360. Although they don't seem to have forgotten about Tivo based customers. Oh well! at least they tried.

Media Boy UK 23-01-2022 17:40

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
I know that official notification from Virgin did appear today. I was just reposting my post from last night that is on page 12 of this thread. So everyone can see the full story.

cheekyangus 23-01-2022 18:37

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36110739)
I meant an official notification from Virgin, which we seem to be getting on the 360. Although they don't seem to have forgotten about Tivo based customers. Oh well! at least they tried.

Someone a wee while back suggested that the TV360 owners need to change their Series Links but the Tivo-based systems won't in this particular instance, so that's possibly why the former might be getting notification and Tivo-based boxes aren't.

I don't know if this is the reason, but they are different in how they do things, that's for certain, so it wouldn't be that surprising.

Media Boy UK 23-01-2022 20:36

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36110748)
Someone a wee while back suggested that the TV360 owners need to change their Series Links but the Tivo-based systems won't in this particular instance, so that's possibly why the former might be getting notification and Tivo-based boxes aren't.

I don't know if this is the reason, but they are different in how they do things, that's for certain, so it wouldn't be that surprising.

Using TiVo:

Seen no information on BBC Four here in Scotland at half 7.

But I do note that BBC One London is still working after January 26th on Channel 861.

carravetta 23-01-2022 22:50

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
NBC News currently testing on Sky so we may well see that appear on Virgin in the coming months.

Also Comcast looking at launching NBC Sky World News after plans were put on hold 2 years ago. They may be announcing this on Thursday as their annual earnings are released.

vincerooney 24-01-2022 00:27

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
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Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 36110763)
NBC News currently testing on Sky so we may well see that appear on Virgin in the coming months.

Also Comcast looking at launching NBC Sky World News after plans were put on hold 2 years ago. They may be announcing this on Thursday as their annual earnings are released.

how interesting. is this some sort of international version of NBC or the stream straight from US?

epsilon 24-01-2022 07:06

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36110748)
Someone a wee while back suggested that the TV360 owners need to change their Series Links but the Tivo-based systems won't in this particular instance, so that's possibly why the former might be getting notification and Tivo-based boxes aren't.

I don't know if this is the reason, but they are different in how they do things, that's for certain, so it wouldn't be that surprising.

They certainly work in different ways and the 360 is much more dependent on net based data. That doesn't change the fact that changes will still be going ahead on Tivo based systems and some sort of heads up would be useful.

spiderplant 24-01-2022 09:38

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36110748)
Someone a wee while back suggested that the TV360 owners need to change their Series Links but the Tivo-based systems won't in this particular instance, so that's possibly why the former might be getting notification and Tivo-based boxes aren't.

That's correct. TiVo has a mechanism where it can be told that one channel replaces another, so it automatically changes the series links.

ozsat 24-01-2022 09:59

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Another of many downsides of the 360 :(

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36110786)
That's correct. TiVo has a mechanism where it can be told that one channel replaces another, so it automatically changes the series links.



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