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Paul 10-12-2021 16:57
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
I'm sure they have, to the media, surprisingly.

Carth 10-12-2021 17:06
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36105119)
I'm sure they have, to the media, surprisingly.
Traced and found by the media too probably ;)

Julian 10-12-2021 17:23
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36105122)
Traced and found by the media too probably ;)
They are vultures around a death sadly.

BenMcr 10-12-2021 18:54
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36105119)
I'm sure they have, to the media, surprisingly.
These people seem to be also think it's worth their concern and they're not media as far as I'm aware but relatives of those lost during the pandemic

https://twitter.com/covidjusticeuk/s...617469955?s=21

TheDaddy 10-12-2021 19:10
Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36105081)

I will vote as god help us if Liebour gets in, as they would immediately rejoin the EU and surrender Stirling
This is either a joke or you're manna from heaven for them, they spend years telling lies and are currently being dragged over coals daily for it and the best you can come up with is to call the opposition that, beyond childish, they're laughing at you and everyone like you

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105138)
These people seem to be also think it's worth their concern and they're not media as far as I'm aware but relatives of those lost during the pandemic

https://twitter.com/covidjusticeuk/s...617469955?s=21
Suckers, fancy following the rules like that, sheeple

Mad Max 10-12-2021 19:29
Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36105140)
This is either a joke or you're manna from heaven for them, they spend years telling lies and are currently being dragged over coals daily for it and the best you can come up with is to call the opposition that, beyond childish, they're laughing at you and everyone like you

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Suckers, fancy following the rules like that, sheeple
Quote:
I will vote as god help us if Liebour gets in, as they would immediately rejoin the EU and surrender Stirling

You must have gone back a while to find that post.

TheDaddy 10-12-2021 20:49
Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36105143)
You must have gone back a while to find that post.
:confused:

1andrew1 10-12-2021 20:55
Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36105143)
You must have gone back a while to find that post.
Bizarrely not.

Mad Max 10-12-2021 21:05
Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36105153)
Bizarrely not.
Really, Andrew, I thought I saw that posted quite a while ago, oh well, must be an age thing.:D

Paul 10-12-2021 21:08
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105138)
These people seem to be also think it's worth their concern and they're not media as far as I'm aware but relatives of those lost during the pandemic
A protest group on twitter, who would have thought it (you do remember its social media ?).
(Its a generic covid protest group btw, not specific to this particular event).

I dont really know what you point is tbh, other than perhaps trying to look virtuous ?

As I clearly stated originally ;
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I suspect a large percentage of the public will not really care.
Nothing you have posted changes that, since by definition it implies a percentage will care.
I dont doubt some people are genuinely annoyed, but I dont for one minute believe the media driven dramatic phrases that are thrown about.

Nothing has changed, it still had zero effect on me (No one has given an example of how it directly affected their life).
As sad as those stories may be, the fact is they would all have happened, exactly the same, regardless of the "party" [or none party] happening.

BenMcr 10-12-2021 21:27
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36105157)
A protest group on twitter, who would have thought it (you do remember its social media ?).

I dont really know what you point is tbh, other than perhaps trying to look virtuous ?
My point is that people do care about it and are not driven by 'media hype'.

And yes they're a protest group - for those that have lost loved ones in last few years. Why is that a bad thing? Protest is a powerful right in this country and should be encouraged. Our current government sees it as something to be suppressed and criminalised.

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As I clearly stated originally ;
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I suspect a large percentage of the public will not really care.
Nothing you have posted changes that, since by definition it implies a percentage will care.
I dont doubt some people are genuinely annoyed, but I dont for one minute believe the media driven dramatic phrases that are thrown about.
And my opinion is that I suspect more people care about it that your opinion states.

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Nothing has changed, it still had zero effect on me (No one has given an example of how it directly affected their life).
As sad as those stories may be, the fact is they would all have happened, exactly the same, regardless of the "party" [or none party] happening.
The 'parties' themselves may not have a direct effect on people's lives, but the pattern and attitude of those involved certainly will.

Those we elect to govern us should hold themselves to the highest standards possible.

The fact that apparently a percentage of the country think behaviour of our elected officials doesn't matter, and that as long as 'I'm alright and not directly affected and I'm getting something out of them' means that we shouldn't care about what happens to others and how actions impact them saddens me to where we are going as a country and as a world.

Paul 10-12-2021 21:44
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105160)
My point is that people do care about it and are not driven by 'media hype'.
I think you mean 'some people'.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105160)
Why is that a bad thing? Protest is a powerful right in this country and should be encouraged.
I made no mention of it being a bad thing, you just invented that.
Encouraged ? Well that really depends on what, and how.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105160)
And my opinion is that I suspect more people care about it that your opinion states.
Well you could have just said that in the first place instead of all the virtue signalling.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105160)
The fact that apparently a percentage of the country think behaviour of our elected officials doesn't matter, and that as long as 'I'm alright and not directly affected and I'm getting something out of them' means that we shouldn't care about what happens to others and how actions impact them saddens me
Welcome to real life.

Pierre 10-12-2021 22:09
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105160)
My point is that people do care about it and are not driven by 'media hype'
I don’t.

Quote:
And yes they're a protest group - for those that have lost loved ones in last few years. Why is that a bad thing? Protest is a powerful right in this country and should be encouraged. Our current government sees it as something to be suppressed and criminalised.
lots of people have lost lots of loved ones. I don’t really understand why the population currently lay more value at COVID deaths above other causes of death, when COVID deaths (and there’s debate over Which ones apply) are still very low

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And my opinion is that I suspect more people care about it that your opinion states.
well you may suspect wrongly.

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The fact that apparently a percentage of the country think behaviour of our elected officials doesn't matter, and that as long as 'I'm alright and not directly affected and I'm getting something out of them' means that we shouldn't care about what happens to others and how actions impact them saddens me to where we are going as a country and as a world.
Well, I agree, but the result is that you’re just saddened.

BenMcr 10-12-2021 22:48
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36105168)
lots of people have lost lots of loved ones. I don’t really understand why the population currently lay more value at COVID deaths above other causes of death, when COVID deaths (and there’s debate over Which ones apply) are still very low
There is a whole thread to discuss that which is currently on version 2, but it's possible to hold an opinion about multiple issues at the same time, so personally I'm as upset about avoidable deaths due to Covid-19 as I am about many other situations which result in avoidable deaths.

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well you may suspect wrongly.
Yes, that's why its an opinion.

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Well, I agree, but the result is that you’re just saddened.
Quite possibly, but I don't have to accept that it's an unavoidable situation

ianch99 10-12-2021 23:28
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Polling shows a lot of people care:

https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-...ctobers-budget

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68% say they care “a great deal” or “a fair amount” as to “whether or not Downing Street staff held some form of Christmas party or gathering in December last year that broke COVID restrictions”

Carth 10-12-2021 23:44
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
"Technical note

Ipsos MORI interviewed a representative sample of 1,009 Britons aged 16-75. Interviews were conducted online between 8-9 December 2021. Data are weighted to match the profile of the population. All polls are subject to a wide range of potential sources of error."

Typical poll really, nothing to get exited about, just ask the right question then adapt it to suit.

Did they also do the Brexit poll too? :D

Mad Max 11-12-2021 00:45
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Of course, there are also lots of people dying of cancer, who cannot be admitted to the hospital because some people are in hospital with Covid and apparently they haven't been vaccinated.

Carth 11-12-2021 00:50
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
I genuinely believe that a fair few people in hospital 'with' Covid didn't have it before being admitted.

Leading to someone in hospital for a hernia operation suddenly getting added to the 'in hospital with Covid' stats that are thrown about ;)


. . . to paraphrase someone "it's the way they tell em"

Pierre 11-12-2021 08:43
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36105178)
Of course, there are also lots of people dying of cancer, who cannot be admitted to the hospital because some people are in hospital with Covid and apparently they haven't been vaccinated.
Well if you believe that, then you’ll believe any dross they trot out.

Maggy 11-12-2021 09:02
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
You all do know it's a case of move along there,nothing to see here or look at the nice shiny thing over there but not here.

Either you are duped or are making a mountain out of a molehill depending on your viewpoint or political stance.

All I know is I really don't want a government the world is unable to take seriously.

Mr K 11-12-2021 10:15
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36105189)
You all do know it's a case of move along there,nothing to see here or look at the nice shiny thing over there but not here.
Are you talking about Boris' latest offspring that he had induced to divert attention... ;)

May another affair and/or a war would help him? Worth a go.

1andrew1 11-12-2021 10:53
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36105189)
All I know is I really don't want a government the world is unable to take seriously.
That's been the case since Cameron resigned over five years ago.

Julian 11-12-2021 11:01
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36105206)
That's been the case since Cameron resigned over five years ago.
It’s not just the party in power either it’s all the mps and the “lords” complete sick joke.

Carth 11-12-2021 11:07
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36105209)
It’s not just the party in power either it’s all the mps and the “lords” complete sick joke.
I think there are still a few 'naive' MP'S out there who are working for the people, but they don't fit into the 'system' and never rise to positions of prominence

papa smurf 11-12-2021 11:13
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36105210)
I think there are still a few 'naive' MP'S out there who are working for the people, but they don't fit into the 'system' and never rise to positions of prominence
You have to be bent to get anywhere in that game'

Carth 11-12-2021 11:39
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36105212)
You have to be bent to get anywhere in that game'
Slightly bent is probably acceptable in society today, looking like a DNA helix is a different matter :D

Paul 11-12-2021 15:36
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
... and back to the topic please.

mrmistoffelees 12-12-2021 04:41
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Oh dear….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59625432

The straw that breaks the camels back?

Hugh 12-12-2021 10:30
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
1 Attachment(s)
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36105292)
Oh dear….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59625432

The straw that breaks the camels back?
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1639305016

mrmistoffelees 12-12-2021 10:45
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
:D:D:D

daveeb 12-12-2021 11:57
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36105304)
Very good :D

Hugh 12-12-2021 13:01
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1974453.html

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Boris Johnson’s Christmas quiz wasn’t a party as there was no alcohol, says Tory minister

Prime minister pictured socialising during lockdown flanked by colleagues draped in tinsel

A Cabinet minister has defended leaked images of Boris Johnson hosting a Christmas Quiz in Downing Street during lockdown– arguing that it was within the rules.

Nazhim Zahawi, who was vaccines minister at the time of the event, said the gathering could not have been a party because no alcohol was present.
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/12/1.gif

mrmistoffelees 12-12-2021 13:10
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
:D :D :D

Carth 12-12-2021 13:22
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Looks like Watford removing the goal at half time, obviously being 6-0 down is enough for them :D

Chris 12-12-2021 17:43
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36105292)
Oh dear….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59625432

The straw that breaks the camels back?
The camel’s been paraplegic for weeks. This, perhaps, is the straw that causes it to sneeze out its intestines.

Here’s hoping anyway.

Mad Max 12-12-2021 17:49
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
The lengths that labour will go to :rolleyes: don't they have anything else to do, I mean come on the PM "briefly took part virtually", is that such a big deal?

mrmistoffelees 12-12-2021 18:00
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36105370)
The lengths that labour will go to :rolleyes: don't they have anything else to do, I mean come on the PM "briefly took part virtually", is that such a big deal?
The problem is that there were two people with him not socially distanced in the same room. Now, the argument is that they were their to ‘help with the technology’ and to be honest it’s a feasible possibility. However, with what’s come out of the woodwork in the past few days, who is going to believe that ?

Paul 12-12-2021 21:08
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
What were they there to help with then ? The quiz ?

mrmistoffelees 12-12-2021 21:08
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36105403)
What were they there to help with then ? The quiz ?
Technical support for the equipment apparently

Carth 12-12-2021 21:14
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36105404)
Technical support for the equipment apparently
Well the 'photo' is there for all to see, has anyone identified them yet?

and is that 'photo' taken from another laptop . . with another person?

questions, questions, questions . . . probably easier to answer than those in the quiz ;)

Hugh 12-12-2021 22:10
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36105404)
Technical support for the equipment apparently
I thought Jennifer Arcuri was his go-to person for "technology support"?

mrmistoffelees 12-12-2021 22:18
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36105412)
I thought Jennifer Arcuri was his go-to person for "technology support"?
I spent a couple of years doing or running ‘white glove’ support for C suite (big/global companies)

Not one CEO wanted me/us anywhere near the camera whilst AV broadcasts were ongoing…..

1andrew1 13-12-2021 00:06
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36105367)
The camel’s been paraplegic for weeks. This, perhaps, is the straw that causes it to sneeze out its intestines.

Here’s hoping anyway.
I doubt much will happen to Johnson for some time if the Conservatives hold Shropshire North. However, if they lose, it would be a different matter.

daveeb 13-12-2021 11:05
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36105412)
I thought Jennifer Arcuri was his go-to person for "technology support"?

I think she just maintained his hard drive :erm:

mrmistoffelees 13-12-2021 11:18
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36105419)
I doubt much will happen to Johnson for some time if the Conservatives hold Shropshire North. However, if they lose, it would be a different matter.
Quote:
Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36105447)
I think she just maintained his hard drive :erm:
3.5” floppy more like it

Damien 13-12-2021 15:11
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Johnson's wording on the parties has changed now. It's no longer 'rules weren't broken' it's....
Quote:
Asked today about this Xmas quiz today, and he replied: “I certainly broke no rules”

Last week the PM said “No covid rules were broken”
Looks like a few other people are about to get thrown under the bus

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/12/2.gif

Jaymoss 13-12-2021 15:14
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36105487)
Johnson's wording on the parties has changed now. It's no longer 'rules weren't broken' it's....


Looks like a few other people are about to get thrown under the bus

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/12/2.gif
they were likely all coked up

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36105449)
3.5” floppy more like it
For some reason I do not think Johnson has that Johnson issue unless they all just after his money

TheDaddy 13-12-2021 15:52
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36105487)
Johnson's wording on the parties has changed now. It's no longer 'rules weren't broken' it's....


Looks like a few other people are about to get thrown under the bus

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/12/2.gif
Mmm that looks like bozo going under the bus, with Truss and Gove pushing him, not sure who the other one is maybe, the barnard castle gollum

Carth 13-12-2021 16:00
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36105496)
Mmm that looks like bozo going under the bus, with Truss and Gove pushing him, not sure who the other one is maybe, the barnard castle gollum
The vacant stare of the driver has a hint of Corbyn about him ;)

TheDaddy 13-12-2021 16:02
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36105498)
The vacant stare of the driver has a hint of Corbyn about him ;)
Could be or it's the 1000 yard stare of military veteran Mark Francois :erm:

1andrew1 13-12-2021 18:13
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36105498)
The vacant stare of the driver has a hint of Corbyn about him ;)
Can't be Corbyn, he doesn't seem to be rescuing Johnson in that clip. ;)

1andrew1 14-12-2021 21:20
Re: Coronavirus
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...2#post36105702Attachment 29458

There ain't no Christmas Party like a Tory Christmas Party.
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Our image shows 24 people crowded together in a room in the Tories' Westminster HQ for an event organised by Shaun Bailey’s mayoral campaign - Mr Bailey tonight quit as chair of the London Assembly’s police and crime committee after being approached by the Mirror.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-xmas-25699183

Julian 14-12-2021 21:30
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36105702)
I thought there was another thread about these get togethers?

Paul 14-12-2021 21:43
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36105704)
I thought there was another thread about these get togethers?
There is, and posts moved.
Please post in the right place next time Andrew.

1andrew1 14-12-2021 21:46
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36105705)
There is, and posts moved.
Please post in the right place next time Andrew.
My bad - apologies, will do.

Paul 14-12-2021 21:47
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
You have to wonder just how dumb these people are. :rolleyes:

If you're going to have a gathering that [allegedly] breaks some rules, dont take pictures. :dozey:

BenMcr 14-12-2021 21:50
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36105702)
Not just the potential Mayor of London (at that point)

Quote:
The image also shows several guests - including billionaire Tory donor Nick Candy - raising glasses of wine while a catered buffet features prominently.

One of the revellers was a senior figure on Boris Johnson's leadership election campaign.

ianch99 14-12-2021 22:49
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36105707)
You have to wonder just how dumb these people are. :rolleyes:

If you're going to have a gathering that [allegedly] breaks some rules, dont take pictures. :dozey:
So true

tweetiepooh 15-12-2021 11:10
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Wonder who leaked and why? Bet it wasn't done in the public interest. And lots of weasel wording about what really happened, who was there or what they did.

Damien 15-12-2021 11:22
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36105741)
Wonder who leaked and why? Bet it wasn't done in the public interest. And lots of weasel wording about what really happened, who was there or what they did.
Internal disputes within the Government no doubt. Whilst they probably didn't have the public interest in mind it is in the public interest to expose the Government breaking their own laws.

That said a massive group photo of all of them could have been leaked by anyone. Someone in the group or someone who they share it with on social media. Shaun Bailey isn't a big target for anyone really having already lost the election so I doubt it's the same people who've been leaking what was happening in No 10.

Shaun Bailey is interesting though because he could have been Mayor at this point and a photo of him breaking the rules in London at the time whilst he was Mayor and therefore overseeing the police force that would (but won't) investigate it.

1andrew1 15-12-2021 11:30
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36105741)
Wonder who leaked and why? Bet it wasn't done in the public interest. And lots of weasel wording about what really happened, who was there or what they did.
Hard to pretend it's not in the public interest for that photo to have been leaked.

It's probably been What'sApp'd tens of times since it was taken so would be hard to identify the leaker.

pip08456 15-12-2021 17:34
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36105707)
You have to wonder just how dumb these people are. :rolleyes:

If you're going to have a gathering that [allegedly] breaks some rules, dont take pictures. :dozey:
Taking a picture isn't dumb, posting it where others can see it is though.

Paul 15-12-2021 18:47
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No, its dumb.

No-one can post something you havent taken ;)

If it exists, someone can potentially find it, and post it.
Just ask all those women who took naked photos of themselves, but didnt post them anywhere.

TheDaddy 15-12-2021 19:01
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36105816)
No, its dumb.

No-one can post something you havent taken ;)

If it exists, someone can potentially find it, and post it.
Just ask all those women who took naked photos of themselves, but didnt post them anywhere.
It's very smart, these people aren't like us, sharks eat each other and so do they, an ace in the hole is always handy, bet there's hundreds of photos stashed away and they're dumb if there isnt

admars 16-12-2021 15:38
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mrmistoffelees 16-12-2021 16:11
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Oh dear, dear

https://apple.news/ASF0eYuK3SQmXCUwGzzG3Rw

Paul 16-12-2021 17:40
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
How about giving us a clue what that is.

Hugh 16-12-2021 17:42
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Boris Johnson joined Downing Street officials for a party at No 10 during the first Covid-19 lockdown – with the prime minister telling one attendee they deserved a drink for “beating back” the virus, The Independent has been told.

It is understood that about 20 civil servants and advisers gathered on 15 May last year for celebratory drinks inside Number 10 and its garden. At the time, people from different households were restricted to one-on-one meetings outdoors, with gatherings indoors strictly forbidden.

mrmistoffelees 16-12-2021 18:32
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36105974)
How about giving us a clue what that is.
Apologies, thanks Hugh for expanding….

Itshim 16-12-2021 18:44
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
But they work together.

mrmistoffelees 16-12-2021 18:53
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36105986)
But they work together.
I don’t think anyone is disputing that.

mrmistoffelees 17-12-2021 15:42
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
quis custodiet ipsos custodes

https://apple.news/AgmbHt24FTkCMckWrqNMI0g

Britain’s top civil servant – who is investigating claims parties were held at Downing Street – has been accused of attending an impromptu Christmas drinks himself last year in breach of Covid rules, The Independent has learnt.
Simon Case, who was asked by Boris Johnson to look into potential government gatherings at the end of 2020 , is alleged to have shared drinks with 15 to 20 staff in mid-December 2020, according to two Whitehall officials who attended the event.

1andrew1 17-12-2021 15:47
Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36106117)
quis custodiet ipsos custodes

https://apple.news/AgmbHt24FTkCMckWrqNMI0g

Britain’s top civil servant – who is investigating claims parties were held at Downing Street – has been accused of attending an impromptu Christmas drinks himself last year in breach of Covid rules, The Independent has learnt.
Simon Case, who was asked by Boris Johnson to look into potential government gatherings at the end of 2020 , is alleged to have shared drinks with 15 to 20 staff in mid-December 2020, according to two Whitehall officials who attended the event.
It never ends! :td:

Sephiroth 17-12-2021 17:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36106117)
quis custodiet ipsos custodes

https://apple.news/AgmbHt24FTkCMckWrqNMI0g

Britain’s top civil servant – who is investigating claims parties were held at Downing Street – has been accused of attending an impromptu Christmas drinks himself last year in breach of Covid rules, The Independent has learnt.
Simon Case, who was asked by Boris Johnson to look into potential government gatherings at the end of 2020 , is alleged to have shared drinks with 15 to 20 staff in mid-December 2020, according to two Whitehall officials who attended the event.
Brilliant. I love this political turmoil.

1andrew1 17-12-2021 17:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36106132)
Brilliant. I love this political turmoil.
It's sad.

Now that Trump's gone, we've taken over as the laughing stock of the world. :dunce:

Johnson needs to get a grip before Starmer does.

Sephiroth 17-12-2021 17:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36106134)
It's sad.

Now that Trump's gone, we've taken over as the laughing stock of the world. :dunce:

Johnson needs to get a grip before Starmer does.
Sure we're the laughing stock and have been throughout the Brexit debacle during May's time.

Doesn't make it "sad" though. It'll right itself - the ship of state and all that, and in the meantime the UK ploughs on irrespective of Boris and some of his cohort.

papa smurf 17-12-2021 17:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36106134)
It's sad.

Now that Trump's gone, we've taken over as the laughing stock of the world. :dunce:

Johnson needs to get a grip before Starmer does.
Starmer is good at sitting on the front bench and looking out of his depth.

BenMcr 17-12-2021 17:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36106132)
Brilliant. I love this political turmoil.
And he's now gone from the investigation

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/stat...96610506518528
Quote:
Harry Cole
@MrHarryCole
NEW: Simon Case is no longer leading the Whitehall investigation in lockdown rule breaking in Downing Street - sources

mrmistoffelees 17-12-2021 17:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36106132)
Brilliant. I love this political turmoil.
I’m minded to agree, not sure now is the best time however.

jfman 17-12-2021 18:22
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36106141)
I’m minded to agree, not sure now is the best time however.
If it was good times we wouldn’t be having any.

1andrew1 17-12-2021 18:26
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36106138)
And he's now gone from the investigation

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/stat...96610506518528
Just about sums up Johnson's Great Britain. Is there an honest person left to investigate matters?

BenMcr 17-12-2021 18:33
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36106143)
Just about sums up Johnson's Great Britain. Is there an honest person left to investigate matters?
Probably but Johnson will always opt for the wrong person as he'll want a friend to do it.

Sephiroth 17-12-2021 18:39
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Now it gets really interesting.

Case accepted the brief from Boris knowing that he himself (Case) was a guilty party.

I regard that as a resignation matter. But, if he (Case) resigns, the pressure on Boris to do likewise will be unremitting.

I love it. So does jfman!

1andrew1 17-12-2021 18:42
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To quote one Conservative MP.

"It's like the world's worst advent calendar. Every day we open the door and there's another crisis."

---------- Post added at 18:42 ---------- Previous post was at 18:41 ----------

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36106147)

Now it gets really interesting.

Case accepted the brief from Boris knowing that he himself (Case) was a guilty party.

I regard that as a resignation matter. But, if he (Case) resigns, the pressure on Boris to do likewise will be unremitting.

I love it. So does jfman!
Case should never have taken on the um, case.

And as for Johnson, rules are for the little people and not him, thus not a resigning matter from his perspective.

Many may love it, I just find it embarrassing being the laughing stock of the world.

I'm receptive to other perspectives and was hoping from another contribution from Berkshire if Old Boy has time.

Hugh 17-12-2021 18:47
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Which reporter is going to discover the identity of a Conservative who wasn't at a Christmas Party last year?

That would be "breaking news"…

Paul 17-12-2021 18:49
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36106150)
Which reporter is going to discover the identity of a Conservative who wasn't at a Christmas Party last year?
I wasnt, or did you mean MP ?

Hugh 17-12-2021 18:50
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36106153)
I wasnt, or did you mean MP ?
MP, candidate, CCHQ staff, etc., etc…

peanut 17-12-2021 19:46
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Well if Boris has another party he could always dance away to his song which is charting on iTunes... :D

(a word of warning if you do check the charts though)

Pierre 17-12-2021 20:39
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It’s hilarious. This is really a fairly annoying but minor issue that any competent government and/ or leader could and would have dealt with in short order and moved on.

But the staggering levels of incompetence on display here has meant that this thing just keeps trundling on, I think people are becoming less annoyed and more bored with it.

It’s just so disappointing that this is what we have as a governing collective, and a wider political group (all politicians).

jfman 17-12-2021 20:53
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I don’t see what “all politicians” have to do with the Government lying, continuing to lie about lying and getting found out.

We get what we have because the system is corrupt. A big revolving door between politics, investment banks, the media, etc. Any time there’s an outlier the system will crucify them. It’s in everyone’s interests to focus the sheep on tittle tattle.

BenMcr 17-12-2021 21:02
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36106164)
I think people are becoming less annoyed and more bored with it.
We've literally just had a by-election in the UK where it was a major factor in the result.

jfman 17-12-2021 21:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36106147)

Now it gets really interesting.

Case accepted the brief from Boris knowing that he himself (Case) was a guilty party.

I regard that as a resignation matter. But, if he (Case) resigns, the pressure on Boris to do likewise will be unremitting.

I love it. So does jfman!
If only for the spectacle, of course ;)

Pierre 17-12-2021 21:12
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36106172)
We've literally just had a by-election in the UK where it was a major factor in the result.
I haven’t spoken to everybody in North Shropshire so don’t know, my point was that the incompetence to deal with this , relatively, minor infraction has caused the issue more than the actual infraction itself.

Hugh 17-12-2021 21:19
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It’s always the cover-up, never the crime - ask Nixon…

Paul 17-12-2021 21:20
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36106177)
It’s always the cover-up, never the crime - ask Nixon…
Neither has done a good cover up job.

Mr K 17-12-2021 21:22
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I'd expect N Shropshire to go back to the Tories in a General Election. I'd also expect the 'red wall ' seats to return to Labour and there to be no Tory MPs left in Scotland. Boris and his party are a busted flush who have delivered nothing for these areas. 'Leveling Up' was insincere cobblers.

However, I may be wrong. North Shropshire might have seen the light too ;)

Pierre 17-12-2021 21:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36106179)
I'd expect N Shropshire to go back to the Tories in a General Election. I'd also expect the 'red wall ' seats to return to Labour and there to be no Tory MPs left in Scotland. Boris and his party are a busted flush who have delivered nothing for these areas. 'Leveling Up' was insincere cobblers.

However, I may be wrong. North Shropshire might have seen the light too ;)
I would say yes, some will, and about as many Labour will have.

pip08456 17-12-2021 22:44
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Makes you wonder, if Patterson had served his suspension would the Christmas parties fiasco have ever come out.

TheDaddy 17-12-2021 23:07
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36106192)
Makes you wonder, if Patterson had served his suspension would the Christmas parties fiasco have ever come out.
If he'd shut his stupid face in the very first place and not been so arrogant he'd have got a week's ban

jfman 17-12-2021 23:25
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36106192)
Makes you wonder, if Patterson had served his suspension would the Christmas parties fiasco have ever come out.
I suspect eventually, when Boris exceeded his usefulness, it would have. But it could have been a year or longer away. Or he could have rode into the sunset and have delivered both Brexit and defeated Covid of his own accord and bowed out a hero.


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