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Re: British culture

Disagreement isn’t bullying - you appear to be trying to play the "victim card".

You stated earlier

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Trouble is that the usual gang (apart from Carth - once) won't touch this topic for fear of the virtue bashing I'm suffering.

You don’t seem to have considered the option that people might not agree with your proposal?

You don’t seem to understand that Islam isn’t a culture, but is a religion that has many cultures, and branches (Sunni, Shi'a, Ibadi, Ahmadiyya, and Sufism) within it.

Indonesian Muslims are culturally different from Middle Eastern Muslims, who are different from African Muslims, who are different from American Muslims.

Saying "Islam is one culture" makes as much sense as saying "Christians all think the same way".

Also, thinking that Sunnis, Shias, and Sufis would all think the same way and work as a monolithic entity when voting is easily disproven when you see the internecine strife in the Middle East.

So, demographics have shown your fear of being ‘submerged’ isn’t based on actuality, and I have explained why trying to lump Islam as a single culture isn’t based on observable evidence.

Hope this helps...

Re: British culture

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36077865)

You still haven't addressed my suggestion that Islam is a culture at odds with British culture.

If you don't mind, could I have a crack at this one?

I lived in Leicester for 6 years. It has a comparably high percentage of Muslims living there. At no point was I made to feel their way of life was at odds with my culture (as I define it), with the UK or anything like it.

What I think you're referring to is extremist or fundamental Islam. That's definitely against our culture but then again extremist anything is at odds with our culture.

I don't have the figures to hand but from my experience of living in Leicester as well as a few more years living in the Welsh capital (which also has a lot of Muslims) I'm pretty certain the vast majority aren't fundamental or extremists.

Re: British culture

One big difference between Christianity and Islam is the primary teachings of Jesus is you love God and then you love your neighbour as yourself. So a Christian should show love to everyone no matter what their religion (most do not but it is still Christs law ). In Islam the teachings for those who do not follow Islam certainly is not loving.

Having an issue with Islam is not racist anyway as you said Hugh there are Muslims all around the world, it is Xenophobic but not racist

Re: British culture

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36077866)

Disagreement isn’t bullying - you appear to be trying to play the "victim card".

You stated earlier

You don’t seem to have considered the option that people might not agree with your proposal?

You don’t seem to understand that Islam isn’t a culture, but is a religion that has many cultures, and branches (Sunni, Shi'a, Ibadi, Ahmadiyya, and Sufism) within it.

Indonesian Muslims are culturally different from Middle Eastern Muslims, who are different from African Muslims, who are different from American Muslims.

Saying "Islam is one culture" makes as much sense as saying "Christians all think the same way".

Also, thinking that Sunnis, Shias, and Sufis would all think the same way and work as a monolithic entity when voting is easily disproven when you see the internecine strife in the Middle East.

So, demographics have shown your fear of being ‘submerged’ isn’t based on actuality, and I have explained why trying to lump Islam as a single culture isn’t based on observable evidence.

Hope this helps...

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