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Looks like Saturday will be a none uniform day, we won't get to see Admiral Andy in his new uniform.


https://news.sky.com/story/prince-ph...iform-12275788

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Ironic that the Guardian saying "to not embarrass Prince Harry".

Yeah, when the press publish the photos it's going to be embarrassing for the guy who served in Afghanistan. Not the rest of them who have honorary titles and hid on boats.

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I think William has actually tried pretty hard to put himself in harm's way, considering his status as 2nd in line demands he go into the military yet not actually do any dangerous military stuff. Search and rescue pilots do some pretty crazy stuff at times. His uncle Andrew was also very much in harm's way - there was no hiding on boats in the Falklands, as anyone on board HMS Coventry, Sheffield or a host of others will tell you.

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tbf to Andy (shudder), he was an Exocet decoy in the Falklands War.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d...hour-mrtn93663

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I am not posh enough to subscribe to The Times ;)

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https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/06...7872393220800/

(if you know anyone with an ac.uk address, you can subscribe to the app/online version for £2.60 per month... ;)

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My Dad was on HMS Sheffield and as many of us know we know what happened there.

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Thanks for that link :)

I should have just said I am not posh enough to read The Time hehehehe

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Trying to outrun an Exocet while flying a helicopter seems a tad dangerous, or was it simply deploying a 'chaff' like decoy to screw its radar when (if) it was spotted incoming?

neither of which I'd fancy as a job though :shocked:

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Most Exocets fired off by Argentina during the war were the slower land-based variant. You still wouldn't want to get directly in the path of one, but they weren't quite the super-weapon popular imagination assumes them to be.

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Picket, Decoy, whatever. Still lots of nasty chunks of fast moving metal out there to hurt you. ;)

I almost joined RAF aged 16 . . Airframe Technician if I recall. Still one of my biggest mistakes turning that down I reckon. :(

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Heard on the radio earlier that the visually impaired had suffered quite badly due to all the websites that went into mourning for the Duke, network rail in particular came in for criticism, quite deservedly so imo to, they should have known better

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He did both, as well as Air-Sea Rescue.

I was on stand-by to be called up in the Reserve, as I had not long left the RAF.

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https://news.sky.com/story/new-royal...-200m-12292880

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Failing to replace Britannia was a typically mean-spirited, myopic decision of Tony Blair’s New Labour project. The former royal yacht was an ambassador in itself and a potent soft power weapon promoting Britain around the world. A replacement is long overdue.

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But does the Queen really want a new Royal Yacht?

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I don’t imagine there’s much chance of her ever sailing on it. But Britannia was mostly used for things other than floating holidays for the royal family. Its royal association is what made it such a useful diplomatic tool, especially when it came to promoting British business and other interests overseas.

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I'm sure many NHS staff will be even happier with their 1% pay rise when they hear just how hard up the country really is.

Not saying we shouldn't have a new Royal Yacht but maybe there are other things which are a bit more of a priority at the moment.

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I am saying we should not have a Royal Yacht 2000 100K houses could be built to house 2000 or more homeless people or vulnerable young or families or a big boat we do not need? no competition

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It'll take a few years to build and the queen may longer be with us by the time it [sets sail].

the price will go up it's not going to be on budget.

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I’m not so sure it’s a great idea. Not at this time when many people have lost so much.

It will take an unbelievable amount of spin and PR to make it palatable.

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Problem is I think the misplaced national pride and love for an archaic ideal of a monarchy will have most people saying " oh he would have liked that"

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The point of a Royal Yacht is not for the queen to go to Ibiza for the week.

It is used for state visits, and promote Great Britian.

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But this is why government is run by politicians, not activists or pressure groups. The question of whether to build a royal yacht isn't answered by placing it in binary opposition to the NHS, or anything else.

NHS wages aren't the only thing government has to spend money on. NHS wages (whisper it) may not even be the most important line in the budget. Don't confuse the popular mood with the balanced view of national priorities that is a government's duty.

That's not to say that a new royal yacht is the most important thing of all, or even that it's simply more important than NHS wages. But there are a whole lot of *less* important things that government spends money on, because it's a government, not a pressure group, and it has to fund lots of different things for lots of different reasons.

There are arguments that can be made for a royal yacht, in terms of foreign policy, whether that be diplomacy or promotion of British trade and industry. The royal patronage is what gives the yacht its allure. Obviously the days of arguing that the royal family needs a yacht to holiday on are long gone.

There's also an argument from British industrial skills development and maintenance, if BoJo is serious about ensuring it's built in a British yard. British shipyards rarely build any non-military vessels of any size any more, which is a tragedy given our heritage and the fact that it is obviously commercially possible to do so - there are plenty of successful commercial yards in Europe. The industry hasn't entirely gone to the far east.

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We got stuff that already does that

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I guess it's a toss-up between the yacht being built in a red wall area of England or in Scotland to try and keep the UK intact.

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And here was me thinking MPs were voted in to represent their constituents meaning if the people think NHS wages should be high on the agenda then NHS wages should be high on the agenda

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Once you vote them in they don't care about your opinion until the next election is due.

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You’re mistaken, on two points. First, we have representative democracy, not direct democracy. An MPs job is to use their best judgment in service of their constituents, not simply to do as instructed on any given issue. Second, I’m unaware of claiming NHS wages shouldn’t be high on the agenda - simply that NHS wages and a royal yacht aren’t a binary choice.

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You and I know that, but for many it will be seen as an unnecessary expense.

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where did I say you said anything??

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Sometimes that stuff needs replacing/upgraded.

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Plug in electric to meet our zero emissions targets, it'll probably have a range of 145 miles.

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Traditionally, when you quote someone in a forum discussion, your comments are taken as a response to what you quoted. If your insistence that NHS wages should be high on the agenda was not intended as an opposite statement to me, then why quote me at all?

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I can respond to something you say without me saying you said something can I not. Is that not a discussion ? where traditionally opinions on subjects are shared

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...liticians.html

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Yes, as I understood it before, the business case was not there but importantly, the Queen had let it be known that she was not keen.

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:D:D:D

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Didn't she cry when the last one was decommissioned?

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Link?

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Aberfan will get tears out of a stone a terrible tragedy in history

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She might have just been rubbing her eye..I need a close up.

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Specsavers..;)

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Not sure how this is all relevant to an RIP topic.

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Since some clearly didnt get the hint (post deleted) let me be clearer - back on topic.

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:tu: Sorry Paul.