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Hexxeh 07-12-2020 16:52

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36061278)
I had similar changing my IP a few months back (although I didn't check the CMTS MAC before/after) and no sign of gig1 so I don't think it's any sort of imminent sign as still no gig1 here.

That said, they like to release large areas at the same time for gig1 so it could be to do with gig1 but it might be you're the first in a massive area to have your CMTS upgraded and you'll have to wait for all the others to be done before they release it.

That makes sense, I was previously on CMTS 23 for my area and now I'm on CMTS 26 so I guess there's a whole bunch yet to go, assuming those are sequential.

Alternatively maybe they never re-use IDs so many of the lower numbers could be decommissioned and there's only a handful to be upgraded. Very little public info on this unsurprisingly... :)

rtho782 07-12-2020 17:06

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Personally I think it will be a wider area than those numbers will suggest, for me I can see "East of England" being one block for gig1 release, covering everything from Norwich to Cambridge to Chemsford, and Colchester and Ipswich on the way back up.

spiderplant 07-12-2020 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hexxeh (Post 36061280)
Alternatively maybe they never re-use IDs so many of the lower numbers could be decommissioned and there's only a handful to be upgraded.

That is what happens. And there are far fewer CMTSs now than there used to be.

It does sound like your area got resegmented today. There's loads of it going on this week.

Hexxeh 07-12-2020 21:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36061292)
That is what happens. And there are far fewer CMTSs now than there used to be.

It does sound like your area got resegmented today. There's loads of it going on this week.

Thanks for the info! Doesn't appear to have helped, it just dropped again... unfortunately right as the call center closed so I can't get through to anyone. Must be the 7-8th time in the last couple days it's gone down.

Zarf2007 21-12-2020 09:28

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarf2007 (Post 36060703)
Ok as per rtho782's setup, I plan to adapt this to work with the following:

LAN <- Asus AX86u Wireless router's 2.5Gbps WAN port <- mikrotik switch 10Gbps copper SFP module - (supports 2.5Gbps and 5Gbps modes) / 2 x 1Gbps copper SFPs <- SHUB4.

I would then create the same bond group on the mikrotik for the two ports connecting to the SHUB4 and bridge that to the port with the 10Gbps SFP copper module), cat6 cables will be used for the connections between the AX86U, Mikrotik and SHUB4.

I should then be able to max out the bandwith using the 4 x 1Gbps LAN ports and WIFI6.

Total cost would be £220 for the mikrotik switch + network optics, £20 for cat6 cables and around £240 for the Asus Router (though I bagged it for £180 on Amazon recently so the prices fluctuate).

Hoping this works! will post back with results when I receive the equipment.


Ok so quick update on this. Even though my hub4 doesn't have the latest firmware which would stop the ports 'unbonding' I went ahead with the setup anyway as figured I could at least test full speed for a few hours then it will drop down to one link so will be back to 950/52 which is what I had with just the AX86u and hub4 in modem mode.

Anyway, purchased the Mikrotik router and updated to the latest stable firmware and running in router mode. Configured the bond for two 1Gbps interfaces that were connected to the hub4. Bridged the bond (disabling arp) to the single interface that has a 10g copper module (also support 2.5g and 5g).

I then inside the Asus ax86u set the WAN port as the 2.5g port, connected with a cat6 cable to the Mikrotik router on its 10g copper module and confirmed that the Asus WAN port speed negotiated at 2.5g.

After rebooting everything and what seemed like 5 minutes, I got an Internet connection.

However, when testing with speed test I am getting 600/52 maximum!! tried removing one of the cables from the hub4 to Mikrotik but still no change. Not sure if the Mikrotik is restricting something as when I go direct from router's 2.5g wan port to hub4 (negotiated at 1Gbps) I get 950/52!!

only had limited time for testing so will try again later and report back..might also be better if and when vm deliver the firmware update to hub4.

rtho782 21-12-2020 11:11

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarf2007 (Post 36063087)
Ok so quick update on this. Even though my hub4 doesn't have the latest firmware which would stop the ports 'unbonding' I went ahead with the setup anyway as figured I could at least test full speed for a few hours then it will drop down to one link so will be back to 950/52 which is what I had with just the AX86u and hub4 in modem mode.

Anyway, purchased the Mikrotik router and updated to the latest stable firmware and running in router mode. Configured the bond for two 1Gbps interfaces that were connected to the hub4. Bridged the bond (disabling arp) to the single interface that has a 10g copper module (also support 2.5g and 5g).

I then inside the Asus ax86u set the WAN port as the 2.5g port, connected with a cat6 cable to the Mikrotik router on its 10g copper module and confirmed that the Asus WAN port speed negotiated at 2.5g.

After rebooting everything and what seemed like 5 minutes, I got an Internet connection.

However, when testing with speed test I am getting 600/52 maximum!! tried removing one of the cables from the hub4 to Mikrotik but still no change. Not sure if the Mikrotik is restricting something as when I go direct from router's 2.5g wan port to hub4 (negotiated at 1Gbps) I get 950/52!!

only had limited time for testing so will try again later and report back..might also be better if and when vm deliver the firmware update to hub4.

Interesting, can I have screenshots of your config please?

Bort 04-01-2021 15:56

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarf2007 (Post 36063087)
Ok so quick update on this. Even though my hub4 doesn't have the latest firmware which would stop the ports 'unbonding' I went ahead with the setup anyway as figured I could at least test full speed for a few hours then it will drop down to one link so will be back to 950/52 which is what I had with just the AX86u and hub4 in modem mode.

Anyway, purchased the Mikrotik router and updated to the latest stable firmware and running in router mode. Configured the bond for two 1Gbps interfaces that were connected to the hub4. Bridged the bond (disabling arp) to the single interface that has a 10g copper module (also support 2.5g and 5g).

I then inside the Asus ax86u set the WAN port as the 2.5g port, connected with a cat6 cable to the Mikrotik router on its 10g copper module and confirmed that the Asus WAN port speed negotiated at 2.5g.

After rebooting everything and what seemed like 5 minutes, I got an Internet connection.

However, when testing with speed test I am getting 600/52 maximum!! tried removing one of the cables from the hub4 to Mikrotik but still no change. Not sure if the Mikrotik is restricting something as when I go direct from router's 2.5g wan port to hub4 (negotiated at 1Gbps) I get 950/52!!

only had limited time for testing so will try again later and report back..might also be better if and when vm deliver the firmware update to hub4.

When I've done the same testing I get 350Mb/s per link (2 links) and not 1.2Gb/s but this is when the Hub is in Router mode.

In Modem Mode it's a different story but due to ARP issues I can't get it working consistently, I'm still on older firmware.

Bort 12-01-2021 01:40

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Yesterday my Hub4 finally received the new firmware update which makes the port-aggregation work consistently and so I set it up and thought I'd share how I did it as I'm not using Mikrotik equipment instead I'm using just my normal pfSense router connected directly to the Hub4 (which is in modem mode).

So first of all within pfSense you can setup a round-robin LAGG from the Interfaces -> LAGGs menu (<RouterIP>/interfaces_lagg.php).

Obviously to use this you'll need multiple ethernet ports on your pfSense box to connect directly to the modem. You can use switches for this but I'm specifically detailing how to do this with just pfSense.

So my setup is 1 x 10Gb connection between my pfSense system and my home network (my entire home network is 10Gb wired).

Then for the Hub4 connection I used 4 x 1Gb ethernet. Now this is important because when I used only 2 x 1Gb connections I couldn't obtain more than 980 Mbps no matter what I did. So this was a 40 Mb improvement over using a single cable but not the 1.15-1.20 Gbps I was hoping for.

After a lot of trial and error I decided to connect 4 x 1Gb connections just as a test and instantly I was getting peak speeds of 1.22 Gbps within the pfSense interface and 1.15 Gbps to 1.20 Gbps in various speed tests that I conducted.

Here are some screenshots of those speeds:
Inside pfSense Directly:
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/01/3.png

Speedtest.net Result:
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/01/5.png

(You may notice in the above screenshot it shows the ISP as Datacamp Limited and not Virgin Media that's because the above test result is actually over an OpenVPN connection and not conducted directly.)

I did also do a plain DSLreports test over the raw connection without the VPN active and it hit 1140 Mbps which resulted in the test halting and them displaying me this message:
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/01/4.png

Which I found rather humorous.

So that's all there is to it really, setup your LAGG as Round Robin, select all the interfaces you intend to connect to your modem (I recommend four due to what I said above regarding performance) hit save, specify that new LAGG Interface as your WAN on pfSense and you're off to the races.

Since I cloned the MAC address from my normal interface to the LAGG (this can all be done in the pfSense Interface GUI) I was able to get the connection up and running without even rebooting my modem. If you're using a different MAC to the normal one you will need to restart the modem.

One last thing to note. Round Robin LAGG setups can be quite CPU intensive due to the packets arriving out of order requiring the CPU to reorder them and when you're dealing with a 1.15-1.20 Gbps data flow.. that's a lot of packets to potentially receive out of order.

I noticed my pfSense router which is equipped with a 3.3GHz Core i5 Quad Core from 2014 was reaching 30% to 50% CPU usage when maxing the connection out when usually it's around 5%. I did not experience any packet loss though which is excellent.

I bring this up as you may need a decent processor if you're doing this in pfSense and in my case I may even need to upgrade the CPU cooler I'm using as it got rather toasty when running a sustained 60GB file transfer test handling a heavier load than it usually does.

Rankrotten 12-01-2021 10:58

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That's great news and more cost effective than having to buy dedicated kit.

My four LAN cables on the Mikrotik 4011 are split 2 and 2 across each pair of switch chips and the CPU hits around 9% when maxed out with round-robin bonding. Chassis is cool to the touch unlike the SFP+ modules which are hot.

Tazz 14-01-2021 19:18

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Got my update seems stable so far. Also saw someone posting stats from a hub 4 on the VM forums with 6 upstream channels couple days ago. This can only be good news.

olisun 15-01-2021 07:45

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Originally Posted by Tazz (Post 36066686)
Also saw someone posting stats from a hub 4 on the VM forums with 6 upstream channels couple days ago. This can only be good news.

Sounds like in preparation for the full 10% or faster upload speeds.

Bort 15-01-2021 07:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by olisun (Post 36066713)
Sounds like in preparation for the full 10% or faster upload speeds.

I've seen a few forum threads lately with people claiming multiple customer service representatives offered them 100Mb upload if they took 1Gig (supposedly offered to people thinking of quitting the service entirely).

All unverified but if it's true I'd certainly be happy!

bbxxl 15-01-2021 08:26

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Does anyone know how the rollout is going?
I can still only get 500Mb here.
I figure, based on the actual figures I’m getting, I might actually get 500Mb if I had their 1Gb service...

Tricky Trevor 15-01-2021 10:38

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I've been hoping to find some sort of timetable of the rollout but there doesnt seem to be one.

david_w2k 15-01-2021 11:22

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Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 36066722)
I've been hoping to find some sort of timetable of the rollout but there doesnt seem to be one.

Yeah same. Would be good to know even rough timescales for regions/areas

Tricky Trevor 15-01-2021 16:32

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I think the average for announcing new cities has been every 3-4 months on average

weesteev 15-01-2021 23:28

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There wont be a public release of timetable for commercial reasons, the rollout is going well but there is substantial work required for this upgrade, some areas are easier than others! An area wont be announced until it is ready for "launch".

david_w2k 05-02-2021 12:51

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I've noticed that on the 'My Account' page I now have a banner saying Gig1 is available in your area... but it hasnt been announced and I cannot buy it. I assume this is more likely to be an error rather than a sign it is coming to my area?

broadbandking 07-02-2021 21:39

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Perfect speeds here on 1gig.

bbxxl 07-02-2021 22:06

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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 36069789)
Perfect speeds here on 1gig.

Judging by my speeds on 500Mb I reckon I should get 400-500Mb on 1Gb if it ever gets here.

Paul 07-02-2021 22:58

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Still no sign of it round here.

Tricky Trevor 08-02-2021 17:12

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Ive been messaging both virgin and vodafone about Nottingham on Twitter. If I get a reply I will let you know.

daveeb 08-02-2021 17:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 36069872)
Ive been messaging both virgin and vodafone about Nottingham on Twitter. If I get a reply I will let you know.

I rang Vodaphone last year and was told I would get a call back soon to tell me when Gigafast would be appearing, needless to say I've heard nothing. It's been "on its way" in my area for well over a year.

Tricky Trevor 13-02-2021 11:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36069797)
Still no sign of it round here.

Hey Paul, I just logged into the My Virgin Media homepage and it's now saying that 1gig is available in my area so it should be available in your area as well.

Phil-ntl 15-02-2021 19:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 36070403)
Hey Paul, I just logged into the My Virgin Media homepage and it's now saying that 1gig is available in my area so it should be available in your area as well.

Don't bank on it. I'm Nottingham too and only showing M600 as available which is interesting as I'm on Ultimate Oomph and not had the upgrade from 500 to 600 yet :shrug:

Cheers
Phil

Tricky Trevor 15-02-2021 20:06

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Yeah, I went on chat this morning and they confirmed it's not available In Nottingham yet.
They ought to fix the My Virgin Media page giving out wrong information.

bbxxl 15-02-2021 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil-ntl (Post 36070812)
Don't bank on it. I'm Nottingham too and only showing M600 as available which is interesting as I'm on Ultimate Oomph and not had the upgrade from 500 to 600 yet :shrug:

Cheers
Phil

I’m still on 500 even though 600 is showing as being available here. Not that I get anywhere near 500 though.

Bonglet 16-02-2021 08:17

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Cancelled m200 (20years a telewest/virgin customer) as the disconnections and high pricing is not fit for purpose now sadly (what has happened to your phone support also down most of the time) , the kind lady from retentions did offer a better package and reduced price but already bit the bullet, and no plans on giga in my area from virgin so got my new package in today.
quite decent.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/02/2.png

bbxxl 16-02-2021 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonglet (Post 36070855)
Cancelled m200 (20years a telewest/virgin customer) as the disconnections and high pricing is not fit for purpose now sadly (what has happened to your phone support also down most of the time) , the kind lady from retentions did offer a better package and reduced price but already bit the bullet, and no plans on giga in my area from virgin so got my new package in today.
quite decent.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/02/2.png

How much do you pay for that? The best Zen can offer me is 200 for £60/month which isn’t what you’d call cheap. Never had a problem with disconnecting or virgins telephone support myself.

Paul 17-02-2021 02:02

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Sadly all Zen can offer me is the same as Sky/BT/Vodaphone etc.

gimpymoo 20-02-2021 08:33

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Currently NOT a VM customer, Is it worth signing up to M500 now and "upgrading" to 1GB at what will surely be a rip off price as I would be "in contract" or wait... till maybe who knows when for the 1GB to be offered in my area (Nottingham) to new customers.

I guess nobody has a rollout plan so to speak to give some idea?

I just know their "existing customer" price will be eye watering.

VM have a monopoly on "fast" fibre, yes, I know they spent the money building the infrastructure and deserve the rewards from that but if they are not careful, the discussion of them allowing access to their network to other providers is going to become louder.

Thanks.

Tricky Trevor 20-02-2021 09:04

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Hi Gimpymoo
I'm in Nottingham but I've not seen anything to say when Gig 1 will arrive.
If you take the 500mbps it is now actually upgraded to 600mbps.
Hope that helps you in making your decision.

gimpymoo 20-02-2021 09:16

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 36071341)
Hi Gimpymoo
I'm in Nottingham but I've not seen anything to say when Gig 1 will arrive.
If you take the 500mbps it is now actually upgraded to 600mbps.
Hope that helps you in making your decision.

Hi Trevor.

Thanks for that. I do want the 1GB but not prepared to be "bent over" by Virgin as an existing customer.

Any reports from existing customers in upgraded areas who have upgraded what price they have been charged? I expect they charged for the new modem too? Following on from that, are new customers getting the Hub 4 or 3?

I may sit it out and see what happens.

Currently on THREE unlimited data for £20 a month. Not great but not the worse to be honest.

Skie 20-02-2021 16:27

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If you're anywhere in the coloured bits of the map here https://imgur.com/a/X2JJ8pU then you'd be best waiting for OpenReach. If outside, try and get on VM via a sale but be prepared to leave whenever they whack the prices up.

gimpymoo 20-02-2021 17:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 36071418)
If you're anywhere in the coloured bits of the map here https://imgur.com/a/X2JJ8pU then you'd be best waiting for OpenReach. If outside, try and get on VM via a sale but be prepared to leave whenever they whack the prices up.

Ooh, thanks.

I was literally on the edge of something and nothing on that map, so I checked here:

https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broa...fibre-for-home

Quote:

"We're sorry, our fibre products aren't available for you yet.
However, we are starting to roll out our Ultrafast Full Fibre and Superfast Fibre products in your area, giving you speeds of up to 1Gbps - provide your contact details and we'll keep you up to date with progress and what this means for your address."
All depends what "starting to roll" means...

I have seen no works going on so could be a year away if they are just at the planning phase for example.

I did check an adjacent area, ironically where my nearest ADSL exchange is and it says..

Quote:

"However, we are starting to roll out our Superfast Fibre product in your area, giving you speeds of up to 80Mbps - provide your contact details and we'll keep you up to date with progress and what this means for your address and let you know if our ultra-fast, ultra-reliable Full Fibre, with speeds of up to 1Gbps is planning to come to your area."
Am I right in thinking "Full Fibre" is Fibre To The Property?

Skie 20-02-2021 20:29

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Yeah, full fibre is their term for FTTP. Idjits for clamouring to be able to call Fibre to the Cabinet and HFC "Fibre Broadband", now they have to use other terms to explain Fibre to people, and nobody knows the difference without doing some digging or seeing the headline speeds.

Once you see Openreach up poles or down ducts, it's usually 1-3 months before it gets enabled. The Openreach site will email you months after it's actually available for order, so just keep checking BT.com as that seems to be the first place that gets updated.

gimpymoo 20-02-2021 21:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 36071452)
Yeah, full fibre is their term for FTTP. Idjits for clamouring to be able to call Fibre to the Cabinet and HFC "Fibre Broadband", now they have to use other terms to explain Fibre to people, and nobody knows the difference without doing some digging or seeing the headline speeds.

Once you see Openreach up poles or down ducts, it's usually 1-3 months before it gets enabled. The Openreach site will email you months after it's actually available for order, so just keep checking BT.com as that seems to be the first place that gets updated.

Thanks. As you say, calling 80Mbps "fibre" was a joke.

They are now calling their own "fibre" HALF FIBRE essentially, idiots.

We get served via overhead cables around here, do they replace the cabling going from pole to house as people sign up or do they just put up new poles in advance?

Thanks.

Skie 20-02-2021 23:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpymoo (Post 36071456)

We get served via overhead cables around here, do they replace the cabling going from pole to house as people sign up or do they just put up new poles in advance?

Up to 80Meg too. FTTC around here is good for 17 at best.

So around my way, each street has poles fed from a main pole at the bottom (it's lots of cul-de-sacs off a longer cul-de-sac), which in turn is fed from a duct on the longer road. When OR turned up, their contractor began by inspecting each duct. They did some minor roadworks to fix issues with collapsed ducts, and then pulled cables to each main duct and tied blue pull-rope to the base of each main pole.

Then a few weeks later (presumably once an entire areas digging and main cable pulling had been complete) Openreach turned up and began fitting football sized fibre distribution boxes to the main poles, pulled the fibre to it and then from there pulled some fibre to each pole that fed from that main pole. Wooden poles get a box up high where the fibre to your house is connected from, metal poles have that box internally fitted.

The obvious giveaways are:
  • Lots of white vans and blokes in holes
  • 'Leavings' around the duct access panels
  • roadworks.org or some similar site will have lots of BT related minor works listed all over your area
  • Poles will have yellow "fibre overhead" warning stickers when they are wired up.
  • Distribution poles will have a box on them that looks like an upside down black milk carton.

When you get FTTP, they'll run a brand new drop-cable from the pole to your house that uses a heavier gauge wire and remove the old line. It is only done when you sign up, as it's quite an involved process - especially now with social distancing making stuff more awkward for everyone involved. But the entire install can be done with one visit for the modern OR rollouts.

gimpymoo 21-02-2021 02:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 36071471)
Up to 80Meg too. FTTC around here is good for 17 at best.

So around my way, each street has poles fed from a main pole at the bottom (it's lots of cul-de-sacs off a longer cul-de-sac), which in turn is fed from a duct on the longer road. When OR turned up, their contractor began by inspecting each duct. They did some minor roadworks to fix issues with collapsed ducts, and then pulled cables to each main duct and tied blue pull-rope to the base of each main pole.

Then a few weeks later (presumably once an entire areas digging and main cable pulling had been complete) Openreach turned up and began fitting football sized fibre distribution boxes to the main poles, pulled the fibre to it and then from there pulled some fibre to each pole that fed from that main pole. Wooden poles get a box up high where the fibre to your house is connected from, metal poles have that box internally fitted.

The obvious giveaways are:
  • Lots of white vans and blokes in holes
  • 'Leavings' around the duct access panels
  • roadworks.org or some similar site will have lots of BT related minor works listed all over your area
  • Poles will have yellow "fibre overhead" warning stickers when they are wired up.
  • Distribution poles will have a box on them that looks like an upside down black milk carton.

When you get FTTP, they'll run a brand new drop-cable from the pole to your house that uses a heavier gauge wire and remove the old line. It is only done when you sign up, as it's quite an involved process - especially now with social distancing making stuff more awkward for everyone involved. But the entire install can be done with one visit for the modern OR rollouts.

Some great info, thank you.

rtho782 21-02-2021 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpymoo (Post 36071456)
Thanks. As you say, calling 80Mbps "fibre" was a joke.

I mean, this comes back on Virgin really, as back in the days of ADSL they decided to call DOCSIS "fibre" and the ASA let them get away with it as it was "predominantly fibre", then when BT deployed FTTC they were like "I guess we can call this fibre now eh?" and the ASA couldn't really say no.

spiderplant 22-02-2021 09:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36071562)
I mean, this comes back on Virgin really, as back in the days of ADSL they decided to call DOCSIS "fibre" and the ASA let them get away with it as it was "predominantly fibre"

On the other hand, the ASA banned VM from calling 128kbps "broadband" even though it blatantly was.

I remember using 19.2kbps fibre links back in the 80s.

rtho782 22-02-2021 10:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36071575)
On the other hand, the ASA banned VM from calling 128kbps "broadband" even though it blatantly was.

I remember using 19.2kbps fibre links back in the 80s.

If 128k was "broadband" then so was BT Home Highway, ISDN2, 128k in each direction.

Rankrotten 22-02-2021 12:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36071576)
If 128k was "broadband" then so was BT Home Highway, ISDN2, 128k in each direction.

I had that from NTL. 128k ISDN box at home for dial up internet and point to point access for sending graphics files to repro houses. Cost a fortune.

General Maximus 22-02-2021 13:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36071576)
If 128k was "broadband" then so was BT Home Highway, ISDN2, 128k in each direction.

It wasn't purely for that reason. When BB was in its infancy and NTL wanted to offer a new budget tier below what was their standard 512k they tried 128k. At the time it was a massive step up from 56k because back then literally everyone was on dialup unless you were on NTL 512k. The regulators said 128k wasn't classed as broadband and needed to be faster so NTL made it 150k :p:

rtho782 22-02-2021 15:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36071600)
It wasn't purely for that reason. When BB was in its infancy and NTL wanted to offer a new budget tier below what was their standard 512k they tried 128k. At the time it was a massive step up from 56k because back then literally everyone was on dialup unless you were on NTL 512k. The regulators said 128k wasn't classed as broadband and needed to be faster so NTL made it 150k :p:

I don't know about literally everyone being on dialup, I was on Home Highway!!

Call charges were horrible as you could use 1 line at 64k on various unlimited services but getting both lines working for 128k pretty much required paying per minute.

Paul 22-02-2021 18:41

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Oh wow, BT ISDN, I had fogotten all about that.

I had that installed by my work in the period sometime before I finally got Diamond cable.

bbxxl 22-02-2021 19:54

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36071619)
I don't know about literally everyone being on dialup, I was on Home Highway!!

Call charges were horrible as you could use 1 line at 64k on various unlimited services but getting both lines working for 128k pretty much required paying per minute.

They couldn’t get Home Highway to work for me so I had to pay for full ISDN - that wasn’t cheap. I then moved and where I moved from got 512k broadband, where I moved to didn’t so I still had to pay through the nose for much slower speeds.

Skie 22-02-2021 20:01

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Ahh yes ISDN - It Still Does Nothing.

GrimUpNorth 22-02-2021 20:39

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Back in the day when it was ok to speculatively register domain names I used to own BTISDN.com. Not one of my better 'investments' as BT never did come knocking :rolleyes:

bbxxl 22-02-2021 21:18

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36071657)
Back in the day when it was ok to speculatively register domain names I used to own BTISDN.com. Not one of my better 'investments' as BT never did come knocking :rolleyes:

The speed they work at I’d expect the knock sometime next week....

Hugh 23-02-2021 12:11

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 36071653)
Ahh yes ISDN - It Still Does Nothing.

Strangely enough, it’s what the BBC use for a lot of it’s footie outside broadcasting voice links - they are in the process of replacing the existing 128Kb ISDN links from football stadiums with 5G links - the ISDN links have been in place since the early 80s. The BBC sweats its assets, and doesn’t replace stuff because something "shiny" comes on stream.

ash45 23-02-2021 15:06

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36071713)
Strangely enough, it’s what the BBC use for a lot of it’s footie outside broadcasting voice links - they are in the process of replacing the existing 128Kb ISDN links from football stadiums with 5G links - the ISDN links have been in place since the early 80s. The BBC sweats its assets, and doesn’t replace stuff because something "shiny" comes on stream.

that could be their new motto for the licence fee lol we aint replacing it just coz something shiny has come called streaming lol

Hugh 23-02-2021 16:59

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
apparently they have plans for something called "BBC iPlayer" coming out soon...

carbon60 23-02-2021 18:20

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
One of the advantages that ISDN still has is guaranteed bandwidth. You don't want to risk the radio commentary dropping at a crucial moment.

gimpymoo 01-03-2021 18:07

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpymoo (Post 36071339)
Currently NOT a VM customer, Is it worth signing up to M500 now and "upgrading" to 1GB at what will surely be a rip off price as I would be "in contract" or wait... till maybe who knows when for the 1GB to be offered in my area (Nottingham) to new customers.

I guess nobody has a rollout plan so to speak to give some idea?

I just know their "existing customer" price will be eye watering.

VM have a monopoly on "fast" fibre, yes, I know they spent the money building the infrastructure and deserve the rewards from that but if they are not careful, the discussion of them allowing access to their network to other providers is going to become louder.

Thanks.

Thanks for all the replys guys.

VM were waiving the £35 activation so I bit the bullet on the "500/600" service for £46 a month.

18 Month contract though :(

Broken Hope 01-03-2021 20:38

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpymoo (Post 36071339)
Currently NOT a VM customer, Is it worth signing up to M500 now and "upgrading" to 1GB at what will surely be a rip off price as I would be "in contract" or wait... till maybe who knows when for the 1GB to be offered in my area (Nottingham) to new customers.

I guess nobody has a rollout plan so to speak to give some idea?

I just know their "existing customer" price will be eye watering.

VM have a monopoly on "fast" fibre, yes, I know they spent the money building the infrastructure and deserve the rewards from that but if they are not careful, the discussion of them allowing access to their network to other providers is going to become louder.

Thanks.

I know parts of NG8 are getting city fibre installed, so Virgin won't have the monopoly for long at least in parts of Nottingham.

Looks to be targeting the whole of Nottingham

https://www.cityfibre.com/news/cityf...ransformation/

£48 for a 900/900 connection seems good.

https://www.vodafone.co.uk/broadband/deals/gigafast

rtho782 01-03-2021 20:51

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken Hope (Post 36072540)
I know parts of NG8 are getting city fibre installed, so Virgin won't have the monopoly for long at least in parts of Nottingham.

Looks to be targeting the whole of Nottingham

https://www.cityfibre.com/news/cityf...ransformation/

£48 for a 900/900 connection seems good.

https://www.vodafone.co.uk/broadband/deals/gigafast

Other providers (e.g. Zen) are doing 900/900 (actually 1000/1000, but ofcom rules) for £40 on CityFibre.

VM want whole UK pricing, so as we've seen in areas with other FTTP providers up to now, they will happily sit buy with their massive prices and lose market share in those areas there is competition, rather than do regional pricing or local discounts or whatever.

For me, VM are a horrible company to deal with in terms of support or customer services, I stand more chance of getting a fault resolved posting about it on these forums and hoping someone that happens to work for VM picks it up in their spare time an deals with it, than I am to get any help from them through official channels. That combined with horrible pricing, with too many "new customer offers" that then expire, forcing you to go through constant negotiations, or termination and resubscription etc, mean that as soon as CF reach me I will be far far away from VM and can't quite conceive of a reason anyone would come to any other decision, other than inertia.

gimpymoo 01-03-2021 21:49

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36072543)
Other providers (e.g. Zen) are doing 900/900 (actually 1000/1000, but ofcom rules) for £40 on CityFibre.

VM want whole UK pricing, so as we've seen in areas with other FTTP providers up to now, they will happily sit buy with their massive prices and lose market share in those areas there is competition, rather than do regional pricing or local discounts or whatever.

For me, VM are a horrible company to deal with in terms of support or customer services, I stand more chance of getting a fault resolved posting about it on these forums and hoping someone that happens to work for VM picks it up in their spare time an deals with it, than I am to get any help from them through official channels. That combined with horrible pricing, with too many "new customer offers" that then expire, forcing you to go through constant negotiations, or termination and resubscription etc, mean that as soon as CF reach me I will be far far away from VM and can't quite conceive of a reason anyone would come to any other decision, other than inertia.

Fully agree with everything you say.

They need to embrace regional pricing.

I cancelled in Feb after they wanted to increase my £37 350Mb "introductory price" to £57. RIP OFF.

Resigned up when they removed the "activation fee" for a "limited time" and got what will be 600Mb for £46 a month which is fine for me.

I will be happy with that for the 18 months as although they are breaking ground near me, I am not in that area and although BT say FTTP is "coming"... nothing moving on that front anyway so 18 months will be about right I think.

The biggest gripe for me is upload speeds, for a "premium" product, their top tier upload speeds have always been garbage.

rtho782 01-03-2021 23:17

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpymoo (Post 36072546)
Fully agree with everything you say.

They need to embrace regional pricing.

I cancelled in Feb after they wanted to increase my £37 350Mb "introductory price" to £57. RIP OFF.

Resigned up when they removed the "activation fee" for a "limited time" and got what will be 600Mb for £46 a month which is fine for me.

I will be happy with that for the 18 months as although they are breaking ground near me, I am not in that area and although BT say FTTP is "coming"... nothing moving on that front anyway so 18 months will be about right I think.

The biggest gripe for me is upload speeds, for a "premium" product, their top tier upload speeds have always been garbage.

Yeah, the price increase this year was just an insult. I was paying £34/m for 350m and a 5GB sim, they wanted to increase by £3.50, so over 10%. In the disagreement over that, they terminated my sim 2 weeks ago and I'm still trying to get the number back. I'm also still paying for a SIM I can't use. It is due to go to £55 in April.

Zen offer 1 gig both up and down on Cityfibre for £40 with a lifetime price promise, I'll never have to renegotiate again. Even if VM get Gig1 to me, it will be for over 50% more, with random price rises, and a paltry 55mbit upload.

deakin 02-03-2021 04:50

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Just found out today that Hyperoptic has pre-installed the new estate where we are due to move into within the next few months.
So i checked out their website and found i can get 1Gb(900/900) with a unlimited calls to uk landlines for £20.00pm cheaper than i
currently pay from Virgin.But it gets better. Spoke to one of hyperoptic's reps. They waved the activation fee and offered us three
months of free service AND a no price increase guarantee for 12 months.


Sorry Virgin but it's time to part ways. :)

bbxxl 02-03-2021 07:05

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
It’s alright for people who live in the very limited areas where other companies offer high speed broadband, but for the vast majority of people, Virgin is the only option. Some people can’t even get Virgin.

gimpymoo 02-03-2021 08:50

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 36072607)
It’s alright for people who live in the very limited areas where other companies offer high speed broadband, but for the vast majority of people, Virgin is the only option. Some people can’t even get Virgin.

That is the problem, they know they are the only player in town regarding "proper" internet in most cases and their prices now seem to be reflecting this.

Seems like Liberty Global are the ones to blame as prior to them coming in, I would suggest VM were far more competitive/aggressive with pricing.

rtho782 02-03-2021 11:25

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 36072607)
It’s alright for people who live in the very limited areas where other companies offer high speed broadband, but for the vast majority of people, Virgin is the only option. Some people can’t even get Virgin.

Totally agree, it also causes a complete lack of customer service. They don't care as they think it's unlikely you'll leave with no alternatives.

Honestly for me the CS is worse than the price. If Cityfibre wasn't coming shortly I'd be considering switching to Starlink right now, they are £89 a month but should be 300m by the end of the year.

InsaneNutter 04-03-2021 15:56

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken Hope (Post 36072540)
I know parts of NG8 are getting city fibre installed, so Virgin won't have the monopoly for long at least in parts of Nottingham.

Looks to be targeting the whole of Nottingham

https://www.cityfibre.com/news/cityf...ransformation/

£48 for a 900/900 connection seems good.

https://www.vodafone.co.uk/broadband/deals/gigafast

"with works projected to be largely completed by December 2025"

You might well be waiting another half decade based on how long the rollout is taking in other areas. Granted I can't wait for them to be live in my local area, just frustrating the street was dug up over a year ago and all we have to show for it is ducting tied to lamp posts and telegraph poles.

I shouldn't complain though, its certainly better than no progress at all! It will be good for Virgin to have some real competition.

Tricky Trevor 05-03-2021 10:56

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
I will look into that when I'm out of contract

PixelGizmo 26-05-2021 11:13

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
4 Attachment(s)
Hello,
I'm trying to replicate the Mikrotik setup posted by rtho782, but I'm using a slightly different setup, as I do not have a 10GB LAN.

I'm using a hex-S, hoping this would work with the device.

I am trying to set up 2 bonded interfaces in a bridge as follows

Bridge Name: VMBridge containing:

Bonded interfaces:

1>AsusBond (ethernet ports: 2,3) 802.3ad

2> VMBBond (ethernet ports 4,5), balance-rr


However there seems to be no communication between the 2 bonded interfaces, they both show as connected, but I fail to see traffic pass through the bridge from 1-2 and vice versa.

The device plugged into ports 2,3 can't contact the device plugged into 4,5

ARP is disabled on the VMBond, as per the advice, but I cant get it to work, having left it for a good 15 minutes after rebooting all of the devices concerned.

Any help/pointers would be really useful. Thank you

MY Firewall detects the 802.3ad Link aggregation but it informs me the my ISP's DHCP isn't working, and I cannot see or get to the VM Hub 4 on 192.168.100.1.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

My config is as per the attachments. I appreciate I may have done something wrong, I'm no Mikrotik expert, I'm new to their stuff, having come from a WatchGuard background for the last 5 years.

Thank you in advance.






Chris

Rankrotten 26-05-2021 14:14

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
3 Attachment(s)
I had to have ARP enabled on both bridge and bond otherwise it would not create the bond on my setup.

Attachment 29069

Attachment 29070

PixelGizmo 26-05-2021 14:45

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
3 Attachment(s)
Hello,

Thanks for the reply.

With or without ARP on the bonding and bridges, it still fails unfortunately.

I feel like I'm *almost* there with this, but my lack of Mikrotik knowledge might be why I cant get it to connect.

I get about 512b/s on the VMHub bond every few seconds but I guess that's just discovery chatter.

Any further help would be wholly appreciated.

I have to use a device between the SH4 and the ASUS as they both expect different aggregation/bondings (ASUS requires 802.3ad and the SH4 expects RR)

Thank you

Chris

Rankrotten 26-05-2021 22:24

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
https://tech.msh100.uk/virgin/networ...ter-than-gbit/

Might be some more info in there

Edit: Was already posted in the thread.

PixelGizmo 28-05-2021 13:38

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
1 Attachment(s)
Hello,

Thanks for the informative posts, I've got my Mikrotik Hex-S set up similarly to that, the only difference being is the link back to the firewall is also a bond, running 802.3ad as the firewall has 2x 1GB ports on it.

The firewall reports the LACP connection, but just informs me that the ISP's DHCP isn't working as expected, nor can I get to the Virgin hub on 192.168.100.1.

I still think I'm missing something, but I've attached a less-than-ideal MS Paint diagram of the setup (physical).

Best Regards

Chris

BenMcr 10-08-2021 15:05

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
More areas added

https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/vir...its-footprint/

Quote:

  • Latest gigabit switch-on from Virgin Media O2 sees a further one-and-a-half million homes added to its network, meaning Virgin Media customers can now access average speeds of 1,130Mbps – 14 times faster than the national average
  • Bournemouth, Bristol, Northampton, Sunderland, Wolverhampton, Wigan, York and many other towns and cities now gigabit ready
  • Gigabit speeds enable consumers to send and receive large files, download TV shows, films and computer games in seconds
  • Virgin Media O2 is spearheading the UK’s gigabit charge with more than half of its network now delivering gigabit speeds, with its entire footprint of 15.5 million homes set to be upgraded before the end of 2021


Tricky Trevor 10-08-2021 20:10

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
The postcode checker has changed from how it used to be and thinks that I am moving
house. The little green window isn't there anymore so I can't find out if Nottingham has Gig 1 yet.

BenMcr 10-08-2021 20:18

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Just say yes you are new to Virgin Media and moving in on the checker here as that's based on arranging the 'existing' account closed first https://www.virginmedia.com/join/availability

It will list Gig1 on the broadband tab if it's available

bbxxl 10-08-2021 20:24

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36089322)
Just say yes you are new to Virgin Media and moving in on the checker here as that's based on arranging the 'existing' account closed first https://www.virginmedia.com/join/availability

It will list Gig1 on the broadband tab if it's available

Still not available in Woking. Looks like I’m limited to 650 for now.

Tricky Trevor 10-08-2021 20:48

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36089322)
Just say yes you are new to Virgin Media and moving in on the checker here as that's based on arranging the 'existing' account closed first https://www.virginmedia.com/join/availability

It will list Gig1 on the broadband tab if it's available

Thanks Ben,didnt see a broadband tab but it said they would send a Superhub 3 which to me is a sign that its still 600 mbt in my area which is area 30.

david_w2k 11-08-2021 10:50

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Glad to see it is now in my area... Does anyone know how much it might cost to add to Ultimate Oomph bundle?

Synthetic 11-08-2021 12:22

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
I can get it in Newcastle, shame the upload is so poor in comparison

BenMcr 11-08-2021 13:33

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k (Post 36089390)
Glad to see it is now in my area... Does anyone know how much it might cost to add to Ultimate Oomph bundle?

Ultimate Oomph with Gig1 is £111 without any offers I think.

rtho782 11-08-2021 14:27

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Very surprised that it's *not* in relatively recent project lightning RFoG areas like Weston Super Mare - very near Bristol and you'd think given the recent nature of this build they would have been a bit forward thinking.

david_w2k 11-08-2021 15:50

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36089410)
Ultimate Oomph with Gig1 is £111 without any offers I think.

Great thanks

vm_tech 11-08-2021 16:53

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36089421)
Very surprised that it's *not* in relatively recent project lightning RFoG areas like Weston Super Mare - very near Bristol and you'd think given the recent nature of this build they would have been a bit forward thinking.

Weston is fed from the Nailsea hub site, which in turn is fed from Aztec West. If it isn’t included in the Bristol “switch on” it will be imminent

Mythica 11-08-2021 16:58

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36089410)
Ultimate Oomph with Gig1 is £111 without any offers I think.

That must be with an offer as Ultimate Oomph without Gig1 is £139.

Paul 12-08-2021 01:22

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 36089327)
Thanks Ben,didnt see a broadband tab but it said they would send a Superhub 3 which to me is a sign that its still 600 mbt in my area which is area 30.

Its not available.
Quote:

Gig1 Fibre Broadband is unavailable in your area but the great news is you can still choose from one of our other speedy plans

rtho782 12-08-2021 09:57

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vm_tech (Post 36089438)
Weston is fed from the Nailsea hub site, which in turn is fed from Aztec West. If it isn’t included in the Bristol “switch on” it will be imminent

Interesting, I know people in WSM have been offered Hub 4s in the past few days, so I assume that does mean that d3.1 is imminent.

Tricky Trevor 12-08-2021 15:01

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36089482)
Its not available.

Thanks Paul

The daft thing is, I saw a Virgin Media van in Sherwood this afternoon and on the side of the van it was advertising Gig 1.

Pointless as it's still not available in Nottingham.

Carth 12-08-2021 16:34

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 36089579)
Thanks Paul

The daft thing is, I saw a Virgin Media van in Sherwood this afternoon and on the side of the van it was advertising Gig 1.

Pointless as it's still not available in Nottingham.

Got a VM email today stating "Gig1 Fibre Broadband is now in your area",

What 'area' that is it neglected to say, so let's assume N. LIncs.

It also states

Quote:

The legal stuff:
Services only available in Virgin Media network areas. Subject to survey, network capacity and credit check.
I won't bother though, 100 Mbps (86 actual) is still good enough for my needs.

roughbeast 12-08-2021 21:57

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36089584)
I won't bother though, 100 Mbps (86 actual) is still good enough for my needs.

You might being short-changed. You should get 100Mb at least, unless your personal config/set up prevents it.

Carth 12-08-2021 23:03

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 36089617)
You might being short-changed. You should get 100Mb at least, unless your personal config/set up prevents it.

I've never had anywhere near 100, in fact it used to be a mere 75 ish, anyway I believe 'up to' is the quoted phrase ;)

alanbjames 13-08-2021 04:15

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
I had an email here in Swansea earlier saying gigabit is now available.

cje85 13-08-2021 13:20

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36089628)
I've never had anywhere near 100, in fact it used to be a mere 75 ish, anyway I believe 'up to' is the quoted phrase ;)

Not anymore, 'up to' was phased out and 100Mb is now advertised as 108Mb, with an expected speed range of 109-112Mbps.

if you never reach 100Mb there is a problem somewhere.

Carth 13-08-2021 17:27

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cje85 (Post 36089701)
Not anymore, 'up to' was phased out and 100Mb is now advertised as 108Mb, with an expected speed range of 109-112Mbps.

if you never reach 100Mb there is a problem somewhere.

Oh I never knew that. Well there might be a problem somewhere, but it's not worth all the (probable) hassle involved to get it sorted for a potential 20Mb speed increase ;)

Would be nice to get the bill reduced by around £20 a month, but there's as much chance of that as Watford winning some silverware :D

alanbjames 14-08-2021 09:09

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Just ordered it, i couldnt say no for the price.

OK its a £35 fee for setup and hub but doubling my internet speed for an extra £9 a month!!

Tricky Trevor 14-08-2021 09:38

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
£35 set up even if it's QuickStart?
In my previous broadband upgrades, I never heard of £35 for set up before.

alanbjames 15-08-2021 04:19

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Yes when 50mb and 500mb upgrade ive paid fees.

Rob King 15-08-2021 12:13

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k (Post 36089390)
Glad to see it is now in my area... Does anyone know how much it might cost to add to Ultimate Oomph bundle?

I'm on the ultimate oomph bundle with 600mb and sky movies uhd I pay £106 a month thinking about dumping the uhd movies as they only in HD to me compared to BT sport ultimate and Virgin Media ch 999

alanbjames 15-08-2021 14:14

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
ive just had my contract through and its cheaper than they quoted.........

1Gig and Phone will all calls inc starting in September for £55 a month.

£5 a month cheaper than what im paying now and £14 a month cheaper than they quoted.

General Maximus 15-08-2021 17:33

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Sweet, I am paying £62 for that but on 500mbits.

alanbjames 15-08-2021 21:40

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Only tomorrow to go now and then Take delivery of new hub Tuesday between 8am-6pm from Yodel.

General Maximus 16-08-2021 08:00

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 36089904)
Take delivery of new hub from Yodel.

you mean you'll be fetching out of a bush down the street?

rtho782 16-08-2021 08:14

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 36089832)
ive just had my contract through and its cheaper than they quoted.........

1Gig and Phone will all calls inc starting in September for £55 a month.

£5 a month cheaper than what im paying now and £14 a month cheaper than they quoted.

I've not seen any deals on Gig1, did you get this by phoning them?


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