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Punjab United v Broadheath, FA Cup, Live now on BBC Red Button. Attendance looks to be about 12 :)

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Have you counted the programme seller among the 12.;)

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Don't usually bother with programmes at that level Den. But there is man.and his dog , :D, so I'm upping the attendance to 13, woof, woof!

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is the dog wearing one of the popular half-half collars?

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l would count that as 14 as the dog probably knows more about football then its owner.:D

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Newcastle on todays performance thus so far are in for a season long struggle.

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Frank Lampard will already be feeling the heat of the managers job after today.

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Before the game kicked off, one of my Facebook friends said Chelsea will win the title this year. Yeah, not on that performance lol.

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Well the view from my new seat was a definite improvement on the last few years. Sloppy start, could have been 2-0 down before they got going but all round a decent performance and the 3 new signings all did very well. :)

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They will have done well if they get into the top 4 as being unbiased l cannot see that.

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A nice win in the end but l don't think its wise to draw any concrete conclusions just from one match.

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This Newcastle setup seems familiar. Hire a Championship manager. Spend ridiculous amounts of money and change the complexion of a team, get relegated. Hold up. Steve McClaren. :rolleyes:

Mike Ashley couldn't get Rafa Benitez to stop telling it how it is and realised the power Rafa held. In their eyes he had to go and now we get to pay the price for it. Benitez launched another attack on the Newcastle board this morning.

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Back from the Arsenal game.

Defence still very dodgy.
Ceballos = awesome signing. Arsenal should really try hard to keep him at the club.
Pepe = also very promising
Attack is still very good. We have excellent strikers.

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Bring back Adams , Bould , Dixon , Keown and Winterburn l say.:D

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Wonder if Pep still thinks VAR is good.

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l am sure he will when it goes for him especially when they play their smaller rivals.;)

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That will be on the 9th of November then? :p:

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It seems you have got your dates mixed up..:p:

Just to cheer you up Jim its in the month of December.;)

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This VAR thing, just doesn't work in football. Cricket, tennis yes, those games have breaks in play that allow for it. Footy is all about the fast constant pace, ref errors should just be accepted as part the of the game.

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In 100% agreement Mr K.

Technology pushed into the game by those seeking perfection.

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We have technology in Cricket , Rugby league , Rugby union , etc , etc..

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True, but it mainly doesn't impact upon the fans enjoyment of the game.

The increasing use of VAR in football is akin to making Rally drivers stick to their own side of the road . . :shocked:

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Perhaps too many football fans are stuck in the dark ages when it comes to new technology as yes VAR needs to be refined but its here to stay despite some football fans shouting and sreaming till they are blue in the face.

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Here to stay, I guess so, but making the game better? . . . subjective at best ;)

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But you can bet your bottom dollar that when a VAR decision goes their way VAR will suddenly be the supporters favourite friend.;)

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oh yes, such is the way of the supporter :)

One would hope that Managers and Owners wouldn't be so fickle though if a VAR decided goal (or no goal) relegates them from the land of milk and honey money :D

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So much for Rashford the penalty taker.;)

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A less than enjoyable game. Roy Hodgson sure knows how to set up a side to spoil. United didn't have the nous to overcome it. 20+ shots but only 3 on target is poor. Apart from the 18 fouls Palace committed I'm sure their players had instructions to feign injury every time they took a hard tackle. The only player to come off injured was a United player and 5 minutes extra time in both halves showed just how much time Palace where wasting. It completely broke up the rhythm of the game. Their physio must have covered more distance than anyone else on the pitch. :( At least the sun was shining. :)

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The question is do you think United are going forward as a side?.

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Too much sometimes. Going forward without watching the back door cost them both goals today. Still don't rate Lingard and Martial is up and down. Youngster Daniel James had a very good game, scored a great goal and in most people's opinion was very harshly booked for diving. He is just so fast even the refs eyes can't keep up.

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Personally l think its probably between United , Arsenal and Chelsea for the 4th spot and that is being unbiased.

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I think they'll all be struggling to reach the dizzy heights of 4th . . and Utd are a spent force, no matter how much the media fawn over them :)

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The question is will their signings make a discernable difference this season in terms of points garnered.

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Now that is something that can't be guessed at, and I have a feeling some football 'agents' will already be busy bigging up some of their 'clients' in order to make them the new 'record breaking signing' during the next transfer window :D

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Sadly Bury were expelled from the Football League last night and my heart goes out to all those Bury supporters out there who have been shamefully let down by those who supposedly have the know how to run a football league club.:(

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The trouble is that football clubs are a business, and the FL/FA don't have any say in that business being sold/bought . . or who to and why.

The FA/FL can only say sod off you're not financially capable of playing a full season in one of our leagues.

Having said that, the 'fit and proper persons' check has been shown to be a farce on many occasions in the not too distant past :(

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Indeed the "fit and proper persons" test is not worth the paper it is written on sadly.

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Playing devils advocate here but I wonder if anyone has compiled the attendance and performance stats of the Greater Manchester area teams since the oil money poured into Man City. In all the years of United’s dominance of the PL all of the other local teams enjoyed success of varying degrees. Blackburn, Bolton, Oldham Athletic, Wigan, Bury, Rochdale, Stockport County, even Man City had several ups and downs in that time . Five of those teams including City all tasted PL football during that period and all appeared to at least maintain their fan base. The first of those teams to fall out of the league where Stockport County and it’s well known that a large part of City’s fan base is from Stockport. Now Bury have gone with Bolton staring over the edge and Oldham Athletic hanging on by their finger nails.

I have absolutely no idea if the stats support my hypothesis but it makes me wonder.

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Yes l think there is quite a lot of substance in your hypothesis Jim as maybe there is someone around who has compiled the attendance and performance statistics of the Greater Manchester area teams since the oil money started pouring into Man City.

It would be interesting to see.

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One thing I do know, the trams from Bury are rammed full of City supporters on match days.

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Fair-weather supporters perhaps?.

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Attendances probably do play a part in the scenario, however I think money is at the root of this evil.

Teams newly promoted to the Championship with a League 1 budget, playing against teams recently (up to 3yrs) relegated from the premiership with their multi £million handouts. This leads to some teams believing they have to get into heavy debt to fund better players . . and pay existing players a higher wage too.

Teams relegated from the Premiership /Championship still carrying players on long contracts the clubs can ill afford, and the players unwilling to move or renegotiate. (Stoke, Sunderland for example).

Unscrupulous people buying clubs in debt then using nefarious means to nullify the debt and then make a nice few quid . . at the expense of club and fans usually.

Too many clubs trying to buy their way to promotion (by getting into debt), and then being saddled with interest payments they can't afford to repay . . Bury as a case in point?

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From what I have read there are some very dodgy loan/mortgage deals tied to the Gigg Lane ground with extortionate interest rates involved.

Clubs have always gone under, I can remember Wigan Athletic and Accrington Stanley being booted out the league many years ago. It’s just the concentration of so many clubs really struggling in such a small area that gives me pause for thought.

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There is quite a list of clubs who have entered into administration or CVA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admini...itish_football)

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Good point, Both the Manchester clubs and the Liverpool clubs (well one of) could well be taking their toll on the fan base of smaller clubs in the area.
Oh and let's not forget the impact of live TV games on all of this, especially with ticket price and transport costs . .

There are a heck of a lot that escaped by the skin of their teeth too, and many previously well known clubs that now languish down in the darker depths of the leagues . . through one reason or another.

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Exactly as l reckon in the Football league pyramid currently that at least half the clubs are struggling to make ends meet one week to the next.

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l did notice that you naughty man..:D:D

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Look at the amount of live games on TV now and then there are many others means for supporters to follow their clubs without going to the game.

Ticket prices have become way too expensive for most of Joe Public.

And transport costs especially for longer trips plus accomadation overnight are very pricey as well.

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There is a certain league that could afford to give more back to rest of the game, instead of wasting tens of millions on the latest numpty.

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l agree Mr K but l cannot see it happening.

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A nice little earner for one of my second teams, The Dale have been drawn away to United in League Cup.:cool:

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An interesting draw for the next round............................

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Indeed as my brothers and l will certainly be looking forward to that one above all other matches..;)

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What about your third , fourth and fifth team..;)

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Only have United, Dale and Latics.

Born in Rochdale and taken to Spotland Stadium or Wilbutts Lane as it was then known as a very young lad by my granddad. Moved to the Oldham area in the 60’s so went to Boundary Park quite often when I couldn’t get to United due to work commitments.

In spite of what nffc says, most people look out for the results of more than one team I’m sure.;)

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Liverpool , Chelsea , Portsmouth , Plymouth , Bradford.

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Luton . . . and .. err . . umm . . Montrose oops:

:D

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Harry Kane says he's never dived in his career :erm:

We'll just ignore him being booked for simulation then. The statement isn't even true for this season alone.

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What a complete load of bollocks by him

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Given the cretin is incapable of stringing a sentence together coherently, which interpreter decided he may have tried saying that?

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England are on the dawn of another Golden era and Southgate may well waste it like Sven did. I still can't find faith in him. We could put 20 past Kosovo here but conceding 3 goals against them is absolutely abysmal.

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Can't beat Harry Kane denying Sancho the chance of a first international Hattrick and then missing.

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Brilliant attacking at times but the defending is no better then a Sunday league pub side.

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Ronaldo scores goal 4 of the night. Ronaldo 4-1 Lithuania. Silly. 93 goals for Portugal.

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93 goals for your country is unbelievable.

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Mitrovic transfer to Newcastle to be investigated for fraud.

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Funny how a certain name springs to mind.

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A hard fought win, much room for improvement but given the injury list I'll take that against a decent Foxes side.

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Anyone spot the irony of this Foxes fan in the#20 shirt .

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It would help if you put the picture the right way round Jim.:D

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On the tram trying to resize and post. Funny I only have this problem on CF?

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Yes l have problems logging in when l am out sometimes.

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l see your bigger rivals are having a whale of a time.:D

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Never have problems logging in, just posting pictures from this Samsung S9 nearly always end up on their side on here.

PS. The ‘rivals ‘ might be better but they are certainly not bigger.

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l have tried twice to log in and it failed when l was out.

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:p::p:

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They're well on their way to catching up. :erm:

They could well have another 5 or 6 League titles before Man United become consistent champion level quality.

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You don't seem convinced by those high up in the club then?.

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Sad news this morning.:(

https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines...vVX4-WMbQ4jds4

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Someone must be smarting after the Saints v Cherries last night.;)

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Perhaps he has gone into hiding as the Saints do have a chance to redeem themselves come next Tuesday evening.:D

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Just about to go through Plymouth on my way home after attending the match.

Ridiculous first half defensive formation cost us that match.

Played so much better in the second half.

Got my tickets for Tuesday and also a trip to the new Spurs stadium next Saturday. Flying back for £34.99. :D

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Well at least the sun is out for you going through Plymouth :Sun::Sun:

Do you think he is the right manager? or is he tinkering too much?

Given the way Portsmouth are playing currently with deep discontent among its supporters with Jackett Potato Southampton should be too strong on Tuesday.

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And how long will it be before Watford reinstate the manager they have just sacked?:rolleyes:

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Indeed what a great age old recipe of club owners of sack the manager and then convince themselves that it will be alright on the night to pardon a pun.:rolleyes:

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Well Man United fans won't be happy with this lacklustre and uninspiring United performance thus so far..

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I'd like to say they're gonna back Ole and roll the dice on this, giving him the time to develop a squad. But with the riches about and Man City growing stronger and stronger I'm not even sure that would work anymore. Man City are well on their way to becoming the Real Madrid of the world. Their infrastructure and outreach is incredible, they're currently one of the global giants in world football but in 20 years time they could well be THE global giant of world football. By the time any English club reaches their current level they're gonna be another 10 ahead. The ridiculous amount of money thrown at them built foundations that no current English club can come near challenging.

I can't see a single challenge on City or Liverpool and that's depressing. :erm:

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The thing is Man United espouse to the world that they are the richest club in the world but it needs more then money to buy success as you need people who make the right decisions at the right times plus the club needs a coherent well thought out long term transfer strategy and not one made on the back of a fag packet with Ed Woodward as its clueless conductor of those financial riches.

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It's pointless being rich if the Glazers are skimming money off the top and paying out incredible sums to shareholders because they pulled off one of the most crude and ridiculous takeovers of a football club I've seen.

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The question is how does one get rid of them as Many United fans have been unimpressed with them for a while but unless someone comes in a buys them out and has the clubs interest at heart then nothing will change.

How many managers have they had since Sir Alex? as its not the managers who are the problem as its the clubs current infrastructure that needs to change but alas with the money men in charge now that simply is not going to happen.

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Modern Football, don't you just love it :D

How long before the super league breakaway then . . if there are enough teams left that can offer a challenge? :rolleyes:

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They have been talking about that for years and personally l can't see it happening as it would need a bunch of turkeys to volunteer themselves for Christmas.

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Well I guess it remains to be seen how many turkeys will fly if SKY offers the right amount of cash ;)

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But it needs a huge overall majority agreement and that is not going to happen Carth.

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Majority of which clubs? Premiership only or all league clubs?

I'm sure there will be a few clubs glad to see the back of the 'big 6' in order to improve their own chances :D

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A Majority of Premiership clubs as it needs 11 clubs to vote for it l think and as l say Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

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Premier League instantly becomes less prestigious and pretty much worthless as do the other top leagues. They'll be full of teams that are mere stepping stones for players to join a super league team.

The Premier League created a problem it can't fix now. They don't care and neither do sky. So long as the revenue is there they can't see a problem.

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The bubble may not have burst but it looks as though Sky think it is deflating a little.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-improves-sky/

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Sky have more then enough premium sport as it is and see spending £1.2 billion as money that could be spent better elsewhere.

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Well the financial bubble at your beloved United has certainly not burst with record revenues.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...ue-for-2018-19

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Just more cream for the Glazer leeches to skim off.:(

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That just about sums it up Jim.

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Well apart from the first 20 minutes tonight for Portsmouth Southampton have shown their class in the battle of the South Coast.

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Well for possibly the one and only time I am tempted to buy one of those rightly derided half and half scarves tonight. :D

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My my you are stepping down in the world.:D

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It's for my brother in Surrey. ;)

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How bad was that, 31 shots but only 8 on target. So much dead wood on the pitch. :(