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I whole heartedly agree with every single word

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Two words and they are absolutely superb..:D

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Absolute magic. If they pitched it to Stewart even half as well as they made that episode, it’s no wonder he said yes.

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Just watched it and it is bloody awesome and it has left me needing more!!! I wish they would put the whole season up at once.

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Realistic ... she’s young, it’s 20 years later, she might not have known. People don’t always accurately recall or understand the past.

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Been reading articles and some suggest, and it’s not a spoiler, that Data having 5 Queens could be a foreboding for a return of Q?.

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Or the Borg?

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Jonathan Del Arco (The rescued Borg, Hugh) is confirmed as in the cast for Picard, so even without the big reveal at the end of part 1 I think we can be sure the Borg will be in it in some way or other.

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Ooh, didn’t think of that. That actually makes more sense. Hopefully Alice Krige.

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Oh yeah, Seven of nine too.

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Remember this is set post-Janeway/Voyager return so the Borg should be no more. There must be thousands of cubes, spheres and whatever else lying dead in space for investigation and salvage. It will be interesting to see where the series (and Starfleet) go with it in terms of technological progress.


As an fyi, the new issue of SFX is out and there is a 15 page feature on Picard.

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There’s no reason why Hugh’s faction shouldn’t have remained concealed somewhere in or near the Alpha Quadrant. Although he could be playing someone else, he was Fantomi as well.

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Yeah, i am assuming that it was only proper borg who were connected to the hive that were destroyed and those who were disconnected are okay.

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I saw the first epidsode and i really enjoyed this.

Hope it carries on and i enjoy the rest of the series.

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Loved the first ep and like other have said, if the whole season had been releases, I probably would have seen it in one go.

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I’m pretty sure she said B4’s inferior neural net couldn’t handle Data’s program and eventually failed.

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Ep2. A little slower, more back story and the introduction of the villains, but I’m glad it’s not afraid to take its time.

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That episode flew by. Yes, the pace was slower but it was so immersive I got quite a jolt when the credits rolled. I actually shouted at the TV, “you can’t leave it there!”

I’m also loving the new Starfleet uniforms. They have resisted the temptation to pander to HD and make them super-detailed, and have remained true to the spirit of Starfleet uniforms down the ages, which have almost always been simple.

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Great image from yesterday's episode (not a spoiler).

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I was disappointed when i realised there were only 2mins left as it did indeed fly by and it was alot slower.

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I love that the joke is repeated in Romulan :D

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My fav uniforms are still the Nemesis version. Although from the older stuff I still love the Khan era uniforms.

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In fairness, they have even kept the uniforms fairly simple in the films. IIRC, in TNG, the dress uniforms were a little more detailed, but that's as it should be, IMO.

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They had little choice, as they were still producing contemporaneous TV episodes at the time. Whenever new material is made in isolation there’s always the temptation to embellish. The original motion picture uniforms were something of an exception, but the rest of the classic films were rather more of a departure than anything on TV.

For all his mucking about with alternative timelines, Abrams did a pretty faithful job of the uniform in his films. It’s a pity Discovery didn’t take a leaf out of his book (and it was Discovery I was really thinking of when I posted).

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The scale and texture of the Trekverse on show in this new series is amazing. It is eclipsing all the previous TV shows and is fast on the way to surpassing the movies, and all we’ve actually seen so far is Earth and a defunct Borg cube. And a bit of Mars. And Hugh. :D

Engage!

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Have to admit, when he said that word, some dust got in my eyes...

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The reactions of Agnes and Raffi were priceless :D

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This is the perfect example I need when I try to explain to people what I mean by my realism factor, proper stories, depth and caring about characters. This series is perfect because they are showing off the new special effects, doing a new story with new characters but still staying true to the main character. There are all these little moments where they keep honouring him and letting us know that they know (the producers) who he is and give him the respect he deserves. It is the little things he says and does that do it for me like when he walked onto the bridge and looked at the captain's chair like he was going to sit on it or in ep 1 when he was playing with Data at the beginning and Data asked him why he was hesitating and he replied "because I don't want it to end" and I thought "I don't want it to end either :cry::cry::cry:" I like how they also addressed the absence of team TNG as well in the last episode because from our point of view it makes sense that if he is in a tight spot he would turn to the people he knows and can trust. I am still holding out hope that when it really counts, Worf comes crashing through the window with his Bat'leth and pastes some Romulans or Borg.

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Also, given the development of the story over seven seasons and finally Nemesis, there is a very satisfying completeness in his having pushed for the grand rescue mission and also to have a couple of Romulans working for him (and them also obviously caring very deeply for each other). I love the way they’ve drawn Laris in particular. Obvs Orla Brady genuinely is Irish, but they have written dialogue that allows her natural accent to warm whatever scene she’s in. Laris even speaks Irish idioms, which leads me to think somewhere in the show Bible it says when she came to Earth she spent time in Ireland and learned to speak English there. There is such attention to detail in it. I’d put money on it being built to out-last Pat Stewart’s involvement.

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I agree, putting the current story line aside and the necessity for them being there, if Worf & co can't be around to defend Picard then who better than two Tal Shiar?

maybe but somebody needs to tell them now it is a big NO NO to kill him off. They have obviously done the whole him going back France and the family chateau thing so they need to come up with him making a different dignified exit in line with the character. The way the story is going (and thinking about how ep 1 started) I wouldn't mind the scientist from the Daestrom Institute developing the technology to harvest one of Dahj's neurons, implant it in B4 and bring back Data and Picard and Data venturing off into the sunset to live happily ever after.

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Patrick Stewart will be 80 in the summer, how long do you think he will be doing this ?

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At least 3 seasons

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Christopher Lee was still acting into his early 90's ;) so l think Patrick Stewart has a few years left yet.

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Stardate 21254.7

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I think you missed the point slightly, you can only act if you are alive and well. ;)

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I have to be honest, I wish this had been made 10 years ago (though of course the TV industry wasn’t really in the right place for that to happen). Stewart is showing his age. Just because one actor can keep going until he’s 90 doesn’t mean another can, or should. Obviously he’s going to do season 2 but I do think if they’re going to make a run out of this they’re going to have to develop it as an ensemble piece that can go on without him.

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Are you expecting somebody to set the phaser to kill instead of stun by accident?

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Could be a disruptor... Romulan disruptors don’t have a stun setting. ;)

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touché

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I wish I looked as good at 67 as he does at 80.

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I'll buy you a dermal regenerator for xmas

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I also noticed, but forget to mention, that when Picard had his interview with the journalist in the first episode.

His tailor must have got some inspiration from Aliens. ;)

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This week.....yay, Seven of Nine!

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Yeah, it was kinda obvious who that was going to be :)

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I knew she was going to be in it because I had seen an interview with Jeri Ryan where she commented that Jonathan Frakes directed her first episode so when I saw his name in the credits at the beginning of the ep I was very happy. I was swearing my head off at the end of the episode though; they had pulled a The Force Awakens on us. I was waited the whole episode to see her and she was in it for the last 10 seconds.

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Don't worry she'll be back next week then eps 7, 8, 9 & 10.

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Jeri's name appeared before Frakes' name as a special guest star.

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:erm: didn't notice that :rolleyes:

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I'm finding it a bit slow.. I hope it gets a bit quicker as the series goes on as it seems a bit plain at the moment

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I didn't know where to put this so I put it in here because it would attract the most attention. The latest edition of SGX has just come through the door and there is a 10 page feature celebrating the 25th anniversary of Voyager. It should be in the newsagents in the next few days if you are interested.

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Tonights episode was still very pedestrian.

First ten minutes was Star Trek does blade runner............

I am enjoying it, but now I have got over the “this is brilliant” I’m now moving towards the “come on , get on with it”.

I will remain patient.

But it needs to speed up a little bit.

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Don't get your hopes up, this is a 3 season story arc which is why it has been guaranteed 3 seasons.

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Great episode this week.

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Yes it moved along a bit quicker.

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I have got my tissues ready for next week's ep

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It’s immersive. Star Trek, but not as we know it. Authentically the world we know from TNG and its spin offs, but with depth and texture in exquisite detail the original shows, at their very best, could only ever hint at. I am absolutely loving it.

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From what i've read though, the reason it is so different is because of who owned what rights to the shows and movies. Shows have to be 25% different or something along them lines. Blame the splitting and merging of CBS/Paramount/Viacom.

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The careless splitting of rights between CBS Paramount and Viacom certainly made Discovery an exceptionally difficult project to take on. Not only did they have to contend with a well-explored shared writers’ universe, but they had to remain mindful of which aspects of it they simply weren’t allowed to reuse. None of which excuses the dog’s breakfast they made of the early episodes, which were only partly rectified later on.

However, in Picard they have been able to shift into the future in real time, Picard having aged by the same amount that Pat Stewart has, and have distanced themselves sufficiently from the original time period that any changes they make simply look like reasonable technological progress or political change.

It also helps that the modern fashion, driven by the needs of streaming service providers, is for big screen cinematography and an overriding story arc told across about 8-12 episodes, rather than two dozen standalone episodes intended to fill an American broadcast season and make rapid progress towards the magic 100 that sees the property safely into eternal syndication. People won’t put up with wafer thin plotlines, Spartan sets, pedestrian camera work or a quota of episodes that barely use the main cast or stick to one or two permanent sets because all the money’s been spent on one set-piece FX shot in episode 9. It looked great in 1990 but time has passed.

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It’s not that kind of show...............dirty boy.

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:D

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I flipping loved this weeks ep. I read an interview a while ago with the shows creator Alex Kurtzman and he said that they weren't going to do fan service and old characters would only be in the series if the story needs them to be but they are clearly going out of their way in terms of nostalgia and trying to make it as close to the heart as possible whilst making it look new and different. There are so many little things in each episode which are a nod to the past and I love it.
I have previously said that I would love to see the entire TNG cast reunited and on screen at the same time, even if it was only for one scene in a single episode. They are clearly trying to pace themselves at the moment and treat us with something different each episode. As this is a three-season story arc and we know Guinan is coming back in season 2 I am hoping they eventually get Geordie and Worf back and however the story goes, the season (and maybe series) 3 finale has them all together. It will be a very special moment.

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I am sure that the plan wasn't to base the entire episode round Troi and Riker. But to only feature them. However mid way through filming Kurtzman was replaced and head of the show and there may have been a large number of changes, bit like on Discovery.

It was fantastic seeing the three of them interacting again and just having great chemistry still, after so much time.

There was also a prequel comic series of 3 or 4 issues leading into the show. Which focussed on the exaction of the Romulans with Picard and Raffi. Geordi was in a small part of one issue and he was on Mars heading up the shipworms, so would likely have been there during the attacks.

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Last night’s episode was definitely one for the fans. I absolutely loved it - even my daughter was excited to see Troi and Riker were the wild blonde girl’s parents (my daughter is a wild blonde girl). I know they’ve been very clear that they have a story to tell and they’re not just doing fan service, but there has to be a bit of room for finding out whatever happened to whoever, and a lot of far more minor characters from the TNG canon have already had screen time so there’s no harm in catching up with some of the main characters either.

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I don't think people appreciate how much TLC goes into each episode. I am not normally one to read too much into the production side of things and like to enjoy things for what they are but a channel popped up on my recommended list for youtube so out of curiosity I watch one episode and there was loads of stuff I missed in that weeks episode (4 I think) such as a reference to Quark. You should take a look and see what you think:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...7ZVO62rTrYTQWp

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I’ve loved Picard but the whole



Oh come on, it just ruins it, makes anything else coming seem artificial. Not happy at all with that outcome.

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Why ?

I dont have a problem with it, after all, he was partly artificial already.

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Saw that coming - "Chekhov’s Gun" came to mind when that appeared in a previous episode.

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Having an artificial heart is one thing.



That’s why, the next series will be all the more weaker for it.

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I read on a site somewhere that what they did was a possibility, but I never thought that would be the case.

Loved the series but I can’t understand why they would go this way.

But hey, apparently there was a 3 series deal or something like that so it must all be mapped out. I’ll wait and see.

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It threw me a bit as well and even before that happened I thought "why doesn't Seven inject him with some nanoprobes, surely they can fix it?" That is the one thing which has hit my realism factor so far. I would like to see Seven's more Borgy side come through a bit more. I was hoping that when she was in the close quarters fight scenes in earlier episodes that when she didn't have a weapon and it came to crunch time she would use her assimilation tubules to inject nanoprobes into somebody to incapacitate them.

Back on topic though, I am assuming what happened happened because it is presumably going to play into the season 2 story arc.

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Fantastic news. We were already aware that Guinan is coming back for season 2 and I have just found out that talk are underway for Geordie to return as well. That just leaves Worf who they'll probably hold back for season 3. I don't even want to have to say this but let's hope they don't kill any of them off. If they do I'll be pressing the stop button.

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Wonder if they will get Beverley back.

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I’d actually like to see Wesley and Robin Crusher put in an appearance. They made so much out of the relationship between Picard and Wes in the earlier seasons of TNG it deserves revisiting. Plus it’s about time Wes’ marriage to Robin Leffler was canonised.

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I was never too fussed about her. All she ever wanted to do is use a dermal regenerator scan your hippocampus :)

That being said, I know they went their separate ways but I wouldn't mind seeing Beverley and Wes come back as a duo. I have a new found admiration for Will Wheaton after the The Big Bang Theory, I thought he was hilarious and played the part so well.

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Scott Bakula is returning to Star Trek with the possibility of his own series. Not sure whether it is going to be Picard or Discovery to start off with:

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/en...star-trek.html

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As much as I liked Archer. It would make zero sense having him in Picard or Discovery.

Archer was around many years before the original series and those two shows are hundreds of years after that time.

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There’s about a century between the end of Enterprise and the beginning of Strange New Worlds. So even if they try to shoehorn him in close to his own period they’re going to have to do stupid ageing makeup like they did with McCoy to fit him in to the first episode of TNG. More likely they would end up doing either a convoluted time travel plot line or a holodeck story. Neither of these appeal to me much at all ...

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They could pop him into the Captain Pike Series perhaps

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The Pike series is still about 100 years after Enterprise took place so really wouldn't work.

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“Strange New Worlds” is the Pike series.

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Guess we will just have to wait and see then :)

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My bet would be on a time travel story.

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Yeah it'll be a time travel story I reckon. Either that or maybe flashbacks during an episode of one of the shows? I can't see it being a holodeck story though.

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Who knows, considering Discovery got blasted into the future, what are the chances of it being blasted into the past?

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I think they blasted it into the future so they could explain away the fact its not known about in any other shows.

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And to give them more freedom with not having to be tied down by Canon.

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I never knew that cameras had that much influence... ;)

https://www.canon.co.uk/media/FRA%20...14-1064826.jpg

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Time travel I reckon, they didn't have holodecks in TOS so it's the only way to do it in Strange New Worlds.

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As the animated series is now officially classed as canon, then yes they did ;)

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki...Joker_(episode)

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Recreation_room

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Thanks for the correction, gives me a reason to pull out the DVD's and watch them again, it's been a few years since I've seen them and to be honest all I can remember is Mr Arex, the alien who changed in to a medical bed and the episode where they seem to start talking slowly so they can stretch the script out!

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Q returns in season 2.

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Yessssssss

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I wonder, though, if Will Wheaton is now sitting there wondering why they haven't asked him ...

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Season 3, perhaps?

https://geekspin.co/star-trek-picard...sher-season-3/

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Great, but only if they also get Ashley Judd back to be Mrs Crusher :romance:

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Guinan is coming back as well so I am assuming their stories are intertwined

i am hoping so for Geordie and Worf

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I'd like to see that. Quite apart from the face she was cute (and still is, IMO), I always felt they could have had some good storylines with her character.

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Thanks to pip for the heads up but this is a far better quality version

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Certainly is better quality. Thanks General.

Will time travel be involved in this season? Who knows.

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Is Worf making an appearence in season 2???

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Absolutely fantastic. I didnt think i would see either him or Geordie until season 3. I hope they are planning a special moment and have a scene with all of the original cast together (no newbies).