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Media Boy HQ has found two unknown channels testing on CO68:

Channel A is broadcasting nothing
http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...&sec=0&lang=en

Channel B is broadcasting RealLives
http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...&sec=0&lang=en

Both appeared on Thursday Night.

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=en&mux=C068

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Intriguing. I thought I looked on DBR on Friday... obviously I didn't or I need my eyesight checked.

Ta, MB. :)

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We found some HD Channels did move to an new steam last night. They move from CO35 to CO67.

Animal Planet HD
More4 HD
ZooMoo HD

We has to re-Add them to our Favourites.

The rest was

Sky Thriller HD
Sky Action HD
Sky Sports Football HD
SONY MAX HD

Plus an Stream has close - Virgin are now running 42 streams in our area.

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Probably why I've just had to re-add SS Football HD to my favourites.

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"Channel A" has started to broadcast we think it Sky Witness +1

All the other BBC Red Button Channels are now broadcasting a "We'll be back" sign.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

One of them was showing Real Lives +1 the other day instead of Real Lives. They just seem to be messing about. :D

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Good find - we did not see '+1' sign just 'Real Lives' until tonight.

We now think 'Channel A' may turn out to be 'Sky One +1' or 'Pick +1'.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

They've used Sky channels on test streams before and they ended up not being used for Sky channels in my short time observing DBR data. So I wouldn't be so sure these will end up being Sky channels.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

We have not seen them doing that - anyway DBR says "Channel B" is broadcast with "Teletext - re Subtitles". If they do happen to be Sky own Channels the Virgin Media EPG will look very bad. They will have Channels 228 and 229 unless

A) Sky ask for other channels to move or
B) Sky ask Virgin to axe Sky's SD Channels if they also have an HD Channel.

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A = Atlantic?

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A= first letter of the alphabet.

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Both are emanently true.

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"Channel A" and "Channel B" was working names only.

Anyway Channel B has become RealLives +1 and has been added to Channel 207.

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How has it been added? VM has had Real Lives+1 for a while, and on 207. It's just moved multiplex.

On another note, Project 2 has "moved" alongside it. Can't tell what that is as screengrab is an advert.

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We did not even know that RealLives +1 was ever on Virgin Media UK. Only Sky Basic channel we watch at Media Boy HQ is Sky Two.

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Prime Video has been added to CO68.

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An EPG slot to advertise an app. How quaint.

Perhaps a valuable use of 40 grand on the Sky platform if it launches.

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Wonderful viewing for the masses......:rolleyes:

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They already do this for Netflix and Hayu, jfman.

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I know they do, I'm just pointing out that it's an effective use of so-called outdated technology, and incurs a cost, time and effort to maintain.

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:D

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Two "A Message For Parents" channels (Virgin UK Channels 968 and 985) has moved from CO34 to CO70.

Due to them changed multiplex/frequency you will need to re-Add to your Favourites.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Why would anyone add that channel to their favourites?

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

NINE unknown Channels (All in MPEG2) has started to test on CO32 today. All are broadcasting test cards (Look like for Sky Sports red Button).

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=en&mux=C032

An other unknown Channel has appeared on CO65 - Not broadcasting right now.

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=en&mux=C065

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Confrim: Sky Cinema SD Channels soon to be axe from CO65.

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Something I predicted finally happened! :D Not that it wasn't pretty obvious, what with the lack of MPEG4 switch when the Sky Sports channels were done ages ago.

Not that I've ever subscribed. Affects me not a jot.

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UPDATE: Sky Sports Red Button channels are on CO36 right now but Virgin Media are set to move Sky Sports Red Button Channels to CO32.

Source: Forum Box.

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We have found on DBR that some of "Channel Moved" has been renamed "Channel Update".

on CO47.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Interesting. I didn't noticed them when I posted about Channel Update Slate rename on Tsid18 (the Sky Cinema SD multiplex) this morning.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Aside from the removal of Sky Cinema SD channel, which I put on the Changelog thread as this one isn't appropriate, there was another change I noticed, on Tsid101 (CO56 on DigitalBitRate website).

The BBC1 SD regional channel (the North West version is what is covered by DBR, so it may not affect other BBC1 SD regional versions on equivalent multiplex elsewhere) has switched to MPEG4.

Also, on the same multiplex, there is a New Sans Nom with HD resolution. It appears to be the same channel. So apparently BBC1 North West is going HD.

Given BBC1 has about 17 (vague recollection, it may be a slightly different number) versions and only 4(?) have a HD version because the BBC can't afford to convert them all at once, this won't be happening for them all on VM any time soon.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

As of 1.34pm today it was broadcasting Sky Sports Golf in MPEG4.
http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...&sec=0&lang=en[COLOR="Silver"]

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Maybe it's going to be Sky Sports Racing HD or Sky Premiere +1 HD? One of the remaining channels on the Sky Cinema SD multiplex would make sense.

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Sky Cinema do not have an Sky Cinema Premiere +1 HD Channel.

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I didn't look at the graph dates, I just knew it was since I last looked a couple days ago. :)

CBS Reality would make sense, one of the main Local Channel companies simulcasts that channel during the daytime on their channels.

---------- Post added at 15:42 ---------- Previous post was at 15:39 ----------

I didn't think they did. But I suspect Sky may be going HD-only with their premium channels soon on Satellite, to make room for these upcoming linear UHD channels, so there might be soon.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

BBC One SD was showing golf at the same time (possibly part of a 1 O'Clock news report based on the time).

http://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mu...ve=209&lang=en

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

We can confirm that the "Unknown HD Channel"* (*Media Boy HQ working name) was broadcast Fake or Fortune at 9.45pm tonight and that was on BBC One.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I see an new copy of that channel has appeared on DBR today.

The BBC North West one (That one appeared on Thursday) may launch in HD as soon as Thursday*.

*Base on past channel launches Virgin can launch an channel an week after testing appearing. No EPG is broadcasting (at time of posting) on the BBC One North West so called HD Channel so it may not even launch.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I saw. I posted on Coming Soon this morning. I'm currently of the opinion it's just network housekeeping by VM based on Forumbox comments, they have consolidations of regional services that can potentially be all be put on one multiplex if I understand what was being said correctly.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Maybe nothing but we have found that "SptsETVmain" testing on CO32 is also testing with EPG saying: "18h00>00h00 Red Button interactive"

http://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?br...&sec=0&lang=en

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Well, that's just gobbledegook. What does that actually mean?

I get the 'red button' bit.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Follow the link to Forumbox that was on Media Boy's last post on the Coming Soon thread. It has a little bit more. But it's nothing conclusive. Yet.

Short version (as I understand it): It's either something new, or something existing and some housekeeping to simplify the network at VM's end.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I agree, do you think the ordinary guy in the street gives a monkeys about channels switching etc.....

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Digital Bit Rate is reporting that Virgin Media UK has add an new channel called BT Sport 1 HD on CO65 but channel is NOT broadcasting in HD or MPEG4.

But the old BT Sport 1 HD on Channel 527 is still broadcasting on HD Stream CO77.

Also an other new Channel has added to CO75 called E! HD we feel it will launch beside Prime Video on Channel 229.

http://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?li...ve=209&lang=en

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Except that there is no new BT Sport 1 HD. So which stream BT Sport 1 HD is broadcasting from is completely irrelevant to viewers.

Except....'it is not broadcasting in HD....'

I think we can safely ignore this.

The addition of E! HD is good, though, but not a channel I ever watch personally.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

It'll probably just be testing. They seem to use any old channel to test streams and load, not necessarily from the broadcaster of the ultimate channel they are going to be launching. And if there is nothing launching imminently it could be network stress/load testing.

---------- Post added at 09:40 ---------- Previous post was at 09:17 ----------

For instance, on Tsid35/CO35 one of the Sans Noms is now called Dummy. And it's carrying Sony Max HD, another channel that is broadcast already on VM.

And the other odd thing about that BT Sport HD 1 is that it's on the multiplex with the recently switched off Sky Cinema SD channels. And the bitrate is MUCH MUCH higher than a normal SD channel, even one in MPEG2.

And for another thing the current screengrab seems to be of two policemen with their faces blurred out. Not something you'd see on a sports channel. In fact I can just about make out a Pick logo in the top left amongst the blur.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Since posting DBR reports early on we have found that Forum Box is reporting the same.

We go to DBR right away when we log on. when other pages.

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Now that E! HD has started testing, following the latest agreement between Sky and VM, maybe they will add the 'missing' +1 services like Sky One +1, Sky Arts +1, Pick +1 and E! +1. They already have Sky Witness +1, Real Lives +1 and Challenge +1.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

As things are moving over to HD - there would be little point in adding SD channels.

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Virgin Media don't seem to agree. It's only recently that they've added True Entertainment +1.

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I was under impression that had been there a while, and at the latest arriving during the UKTV dispute. The oldest Channel Guide pdf I have is April this year so I can't be certain though.

---------- Post added at 13:14 ---------- Previous post was at 13:10 ----------

The True Entertainment Wikipedia page says +1 launched on VM on 21st July 2018 , same channel number.

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Media Boy HQ feel that new BT Sport 1 HD Channel is for N. Ireland so they can watch the 3pm kick offs in the EPL.

JJ20X via Forum Box did reveal on Thursday that:

We are betting on that final vacant slot going to CNBC HD.

We think it safe to say Sky One +1 and Pick +1 is NOT set to launch in the coming weeks on Virgin Media UK.

We also feel E! HD will launch on August 15th. (Base on past tests).

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I hadn't noticed before, but the Sky Sports Red Button multiplex looks to be starting to switch to MPEG4. SptsETV01 has a MPEG4 version on Tsid9(CO32) on DigitalBitRate.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I just realised the 3pm games are on Premier Sport, not BT sport.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I has forgot to be fair who did win the rights to the 3pm games I know Sky Sports has them sometime before.

---------- Post added at 14:13 ---------- Previous post was at 13:58 ----------

JJ20X on Forum Box is reporting that the following channels has moved to the new stream.

-BBC ONE HD (England)
-ITV HD (Central)
-ITV HD (London)
-ITV HD (Meridian)
-UTV HD

Due to them changed multiplex/frequency you will need to re-Add to your Favourites.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Maybe nothing but the first channel on CO52 (BT Sport 4K Hidden) the EPG is saying "Channel coming soon"

http://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?br...&sec=0&lang=en

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

When is Virgin Media UK going to move the last 17 broadcasting channels over to MPEG4?

They can fit all channels into one stream if Virgin want to.

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Which channels are these MB? As i'm short on disc space, it would be useful to watch/delete any MPEG2 recordings first.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Oops I forgot to add ITV4 +1 so that "18 broadcasting channels" still to join MPEG4.

01) alibi +1
02) Colors Cineplex
03) Dave ja vu
04) GOLD +1
05) Good Food +1
06) QVC Beauty
07) Home +1
08) W +1
09) Eden +1
10) YESTERDAY +1
11) COLORS
12) TCM +1
13) Star Bharat
14) Colors Rishtey
15) ITV4 +1
16) Sky Premiere 1hr
17) Sky Sports Racing
18) Television X (Channel 980)

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Thank you :)

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Maybe nothing but the 7 unknown channels are broadcasting on new stream CO03.

Here is the link for "Channel A"

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...&sec=0&lang=en

The last time we saw DBR last Wednesday we think it was want from CO02 to CO29.

Channel A to Channel D are also broadcasting with Teletext.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

I have a theory what's happened. If you look on DigitalBitRate there is currently no Good Food HD. HD multiplexes are usually 7 channels on VM. So what you are seeing Media Boy is likely the multiplex Good Food HD is on, but there's been a scanning error, or a problem on VM's network, on that multiplex and the name data isn't currently working for any of the channels on it.

In theory this should be proven by there being 6 other HD channels "missing" (well mislabeled), but at a glance I'm not sure which ones they are.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

We have seen that Dave HD is also not listed so you maybe right on the nose.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Media Boy, I asked JJ20X on Forumbox who thinks it's noise issues on the VHF channel. They also listed the channels that should be showing on DBR for TSID 33.
Eden HD, Good Food HD, Dave HD, W HD, Bloomberg HD, Love Nature HD, Racing TV.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Thanks. That's way I did say "Maybe Nothing".

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I interpreted it as such. :)

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Two new "Channel update" has been added to CO47.

SID 1220 - did have EPG saying Quest HD is now on Channel 172.
SID 1222 - did have EPG saying Home & Health +1 is now on Channel 283.

but the information was removed on the latest update at 16:16 on September 25th.

http://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?li...ng=en&mux=C047

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Guys, seriously, wtf does this thread bring to the forum?

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The geeks seem to like it, Max.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Well nothing has been switched over recently, so currently nothing. :D

But some people are interested in the things that happen behind the scenes on the cable network. (There are other forums where there are even more technical topics. :) )

No one is forcing you to read this thread, and you know what the topic is about now so you know you are not interested, it's not like the thread has just started.

There's multiple threads on this forum I've read once, decided aren't of interest, and never went back.

I'd imagine most people are only interested in 5-10% of the stuff on this website, but everyone will like a different 5-10%.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Make That 16.

TiVo has confirmed that Television X (Channel 978) has joined MPEG4.

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Well l am certainly not interested in that channel MB.;)

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Here is the full list of channels still to move from MPEG2 to MPEG4.

As of October 1st 2019:

01) alibi +1
02) Colors Cineplex
03) Dave ja vu
04) GOLD +1
05) QVC Beauty
06) Home +1
07) W +1
08) Eden +1
09) YESTERDAY +1
10) COLORS
11) TCM Movies +1
12) Star Bharat
13) Colors Rishtey
14) ITV4 +1
15) Sky Premiere 1hr
16) Sky Sports Racing

©Copyright DigitalBitRate and Virgin Media UK.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

"Channel update" has been updated on CO47.

SID 1220 - EPG is now saying Love Love Nature is now on Channel 293. (From October 29th Love Nature SD will close)

Information was seen at 23:22 on October 23rd.

http://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?li...ng=en&mux=C047

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Nice spot MB. Pretty sure that was the only SD channel they ran in any country (based on looking at the LoveNature website many months ago).

Question now is, is VM getting the UHD version like Sky is? Or will VM just continue to show their shows on their Ultra HD channel instead?

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Sky do not have the UHD version of Love Nature - but offer some of the programmes to download in UHD.

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It isn't really a separate channel. VM generate it by downscaling.

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I didn't say they did, I said "like Sky is" not "like Sky has", as I thought I'd read they made a deal for the linear UHD channel as well as on-demand content, but neither, to my knowledge, had launched yet.

If I've misremembered then I apologise.

---------- Post added at 09:45 ---------- Previous post was at 09:42 ----------

I didn't know VM were willing to do that. Many thanks spiderplant. :)

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

"Channel update" has been updated on CO47.

SID 1209 - EPG is now saying Smithsonian has moved to 276. (Set to happen on Tuesday Nov. 5th.)

Keep your eyes on SID 1218 or SID 1222 for info appearing telling viewers Forces TV has moved to Channel 274.

SID 1220 will become information for Love Nature from Tuesday it showing info for Love Nature HD right now.

Information was seen at 22:00 on October 31st.

http://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?li...ng=en&mux=C047

---------- Post added at 23:34 ---------- Previous post was at 22:03 ----------

XXX Girl Girl Pay Per Night channels has moved to new stream.

XXX Girl Girl (Red Button Channel) has move from CO63 - SID 415 to CO62 - SID 319.
XXX Girl Girl (information screen) has move from CO63 - SID 416 to CO62 - SID 320.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

The pop-ups are already in place on the 4 channels moving to 273-276 (see my post this morning on Coming Soon).

Nothing on H2 though (last time I checked), which is odd as it clearly has to be moving for PBS. Maybe the info slate is in place for it...have you seen any sign MB?

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I have only seen signs on TiVo.

I think EPG saying that "Forces TV has moved to 274". Will appear on DBR via CO47 on SID 1218 or SID 1222 over this weekend.

---------- Post added 01-11-2019 at 00:10 ---------- Previous post was 31-10-2019 at 23:56 ----------

I see that RXTV is calling them "Factual channels" but TiVo is calling them "Documentaries Channels"

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/10/fact...gin-media.html

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Virgin Media call them Factual on their TV Edit webpage where they provide the PDFs of the channel lineup. So even they can't make their mind up. :-)

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

DBR is reporting that Eurosport SD Channels stop broadcasting last night (November 5th at 00.22) on CO 30.

Eurosport 1 was on SID 716.
Eurosport 2 was on SID 724.

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...iste=1&lang=en

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Given they went HD-only a few weeks ago it doesn't matter, so long as a marker remains for keeping recordings active.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

JJ20X on Forumbox has mentioned some multiplex moves and switching to MPEG4.

I've had a quick look on Digitalbitrate and can confirm this.

The channels mentioned are as follows:

Colors Cineplex
COLORS
alibi +1
Dave ja vu
GOLD +1
Home +1
Sky Premiere +1hr
TCM +1
Sky Crime +1

Moves often mean you will need to re-add any of these to your Favourites if they were previously on your Favourites.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Based on further information from JJ20X on Forumbox it looks like several more streams have moved and/or switched to MPEG4 now.

Colors Rishtey
ITV4 +1
Sky Sports Racing

If you have these on your Favourites you may need to re-Favourite them.

Also the following red button channels have switched

BT Sport Extra 0
BT Sport Extra 1
BT Sport Extra 2
BT Sport Extra 3
BT Sport Extra 4

And for some reason Syfy+1 has moved multiplex, so will likely have to be re-added to Favourties. It was already MPEG4.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Based on yet more information from JJ20X this morning on Forumbox several more streams have moved and/or switched to MPEG4 now.

If you have these on your Favourites you may need to re-Favourite them.

Star Bharat
W +1
Eden +1
YESTERDAY +1
QVC Beauty
ITV Audio Description

BT Sport Extra 5
BT Sport Extra 6

This probably completes the MPEG4 switches.

I'm sure some of you will be relived at this thread ending. :D

Now to speculate what the space will be used for...more channels...or internet bandwidth? :p:

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Well, personally, I hope that we will be getting much more UHD and streaming services on Virgin Media in 2020. I dare say that this would put the increased capacity to good use.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

:dunce: Oh dear I just noticed I typed relived rather than relieved.

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We knew what you meant!

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Your Englisch is better than mine on any day.:D

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I think "Virgin TV For Newbies" on Channel 997 is still to join MPEG4.

Can anyone confirmed if the local TV Channels like Leeds TV and Liverpool TV has joined MPEG4 or is still broadcasting in MPEG2?

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Digital Bit Rate is reporting that Virgin Media UK has started to test 7 unknown channels.

CO47:

SID 1201 (Broadcasting nothing)
SID 1202 (Broadcasting nothing)

CO53:

SID 1502 (Same as "For Parents")

CO54:

SID 1601 (Same as "Channel off air")
SID 1602 (Same as "For Parents")

CO65:

SID 1801 (Same as "Channel off air")
SID 1802 (Same as "For Parents")

All channels are in MPEG2 so maybe something to do with all channels moving to MPEG4 or SD Channels being axe.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Digital Bit Rate is reporting that Virgin Media UK has started to LaLiga TV.

La Liga TV is testing on the following:

CO72:

SID 1304 (Broadcasting nothing)

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...&sec=0&lang=en

But SID 1303 is being unuse - An new HD Channel set to launch (Nick Jr. HD?)

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

DBR is reporting that Two unknown channels has started to broadcast on CO 56 - Both channels was broadcasting Ideal World at time of posting but with it being on an local stream they may be ITV Channels.

TBC1 is on SID 10162.
TBC2 is on SID 10165.

http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...iste=2&lang=en

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

DBR is reporting that Virgin are testing an new stream out called CO88. It showing 7 unknown channels.

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...ve=209&lang=en

Getting ready for Sky UHD?

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Maybe as early as 3 August? Good guess...

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

More likely 14th September, Better guess?

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

14th September would be too late for the start of the new football season

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

Sorry, 12th September is the actual start date - wasn't sure at the time of original posting.

Re: Channels switched to MPEG4
 

That's more like it :-)