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Bit odd though since Avatar, not Titanic, is the leader so he'll have to do this again if Endgame overtakes Avatar.

Also it shows how successful James Cameron is that until now the only film to beat Titanic was his own film Avatar, he had the two biggest grossing films of all time (well, ignoring inflation).

When Titanic surpassed Star Wars:
https://www.themarysue.com/wp-conten...ameron-ad2.jpg

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yeah apparently there has been a healthy tradition between directors and studios congratulating each which started with Steven Spielberg and George Lucas.

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Yeah I would have thought it would be if they pass Avatar though.

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It's going to be close but Endgame might just fall short of Star Wars domestically and Avatar internationally: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm

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I am not sure if it is gong to make it. It looks like it is nearly there but can it scrape another $100m?

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It'll be close but each weekend they have big drop offs..It's made $15 million this weekend so...unlikely.

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Definitely worth a watch, they have thought of some really good points which I didn't think of when watching the film

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Avengers to come back with a re-release: https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/19/1...om-home-avatar

Post credits scene added. Might get enough traction to take the top box office spot.

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Talk about grasping at straws, i dont blame them though. When you are so close you'll do anything to make that last few $$$$. There are more than enough hardcore fans who will go and see it again to give it the $45m boost it needs. It is such a good film that I will go and see it again regardless of added scenes.

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I'll happily go and see the re-released avengers. Not sure how much that will help the figures though, as I have a Cineworld "Unlimited" card, so can go see films as often as I like. Not sure how much they pay for each viewer though.

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Yeah i have thought about that as well with my Limitless card at Odeon. Presumably the cinema still has to pay a fixed price per ticket/viewer to the movie distributor?

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A cinema pays the distributor to rent the film, and then they pay a percentage of the face value for each ticket they sell to the distributor as well. So even if “limitless” members fill an auditorium the distributor has made something off the film being shown at that cinema. Contracts between distributors and cinema chains are very complicated things though, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a clause specifying what the distributor gets paid when an Odeon Limitless member shows up.

When you attend the cinema presumably you still get a paper ticket to gain entry. Is there a face value on it?

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funny you should say that because there was a big who ha for The Last Jedi when tickets went up for pre-booking. I think they went up about 7 weeks early and were obviously going to sell out very quickly for the midnight premiere. Normally when you book your tickets you go through to the summary screen for payment and there is a line for each ticket you have booked and the cost and there is an option you can select for "use limitless" which zeros off the cost for one ticket.


For the first 3 days the tickets were on sale for TLJ that option wasn't there. Odeon ended up sending all Limitless customers an email apologising saying it was a technical glitch and they had fixed it but when I spoke to one of the cinema staff about it shortly afterwards and he said it was Disney who refused to pay for it. Out of all the films I have been to see as a Limitless customer (which is tonnes) it was the first time I had the problem and I haven't had it since. The system must work for them though, I think it is coming up to its 3rd anniversary next month and they continue to advertise it to death every time you go to the cinema so they can't be losing money on it. Because my cinema is one of the most expensive in the country it works out for me that as soon as I go twice a month I am saving money. Limitless membership is £18/month and on average tickets are £12/£13. I go to the cinema pretty much every week based on my film list for the year (and I would do even if I didn't have Limitless) so I save a fortune.

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Thanks ... as the ticket doesn’t have a face value I suspect in their contracts with distributors they have a clause specifying what they pay the distributor for every Limitless member they allow in.

I’ll bet it isn’t the same as a full-paying customer, and they will have justified that based on the larger number of films you probably go to see (higher effective sales volume on a lower margin).

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Endgame has become the highest grossing film ever

http://news.sky.com/story/avengers-e...-ever-11768113

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It’s a nice bit of PR but in an economic system that has inflation built into it, the unadjusted figure can only have real meaning when compared with other films released around the same time. For comparison with historic releases only an inflation-adjusted figure actually means anything, and even that figure is of limited use as the way in which films are distributed and charged for is never going to stay quite the same over time.

Number of cinema seats filled over a defined period of time might be a more interesting way to measure how successful a film has been, as far as the audience is concerned (obviously economic success is the primary concern of the studio).

Still, Endgame, the Avengers series and the wider MCU franchise deserves a big :clap: for a genuinely superb, sustained, galactic-scale piece of storytelling.

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Absolutely and that is the point. Not only did they have the genius idea, it was brilliantly implemented and the result has been a fantastic series of films telling great stories with amazing characters.

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Deleted scene.

I’m not crying, you’re crying...

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This isn't the Avengers, where's Patrick Macnee and Joanna Lumley?? :confused:

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Gareth Hunt!

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very moving scenes which I would have liked to have scene in the film minus Dr Strange. Given the gravitas of the scene as soon as I saw Dr Strange I thought "why aren't you doing your twirly wristy thing to bring him back, you did it with the apple and whatever else?"

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Ah, Gareth, now he could do a cracking advert for coffee, should have got a Bafta for it !
https://youtu.be/u2i09LZT2ao

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Technically they were the "New Avengers"

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Just saw this Easter Egg in Avengers: Endgame...

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Nice, never would have spotted it

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This epitomises the magic of the MCU

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I’m not ashamed to admit that scene when the Falcon’s voice comes through Cap’s earpiece and says "on your left" and everyone appears through the gates behind Cap still brings a lump to my throat…

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yup, and it is those kind of moments which make Marvel films so special. All hope was lost and they could have easily gone about it a different way and had a missile or something else more actiony from the Wakandan's come through a portal over his shoulder and create an explosion which would have also created a sense of excitement and relief from the audience but they chose to make it a special nostalgic character lead moment like they always go. This is why the Marvel films are so special compared to DC and any other movies. It is always about the characters, relationships and emotions. It is hard to explain when you need to type it out and I think I have tried twice before for peeps who don't understand and disagree with me but that trailer goes a long way to explaining it for me.

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To be fair most good films are about characters, relationships and emotions. I think what made that moment so big was that they've been carefully crafting this interconnected world for the last decade and the Portals scene was the well-earned culmination of all that work.

It was well-done as well, you spent the whole film wondering when everyone would turn up but it was still hair-raising when they did. It would be so easy for that moment to be an anti-climax but they delivered on it perfectly.

For some reason, it always reminds me of the Apollo 13 moment when ground control finally hears the voices come through. You know it's coming but it still feels amazing when it does.

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That’s compelling human drama for you. It arrests you and keeps you in the moment so even when something totally expected happens (like all the Disappeared heroes showing up, or Apollo 13’s various close shaves) it still has the power to shock, amaze and delight.

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And it’s just clicked the words the Falcon used are a callback to the running scene around the National Mall in DC in Captain America:The Winter Soldier, the first time they met.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1620076952

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Looks like a whole new bunch of good films coming along. :D

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I like that they're making a case for going to the cinema and having these shared experiences too.

With more and more things going to streaming first as a result of the pandemic the future of cinema looks uncertain. Nolan has faced a lot of blowback for daring to suggest he thinks his films should go to the cinema first. So it's good to see Disney/Marvel throwing their weight behind the cinema. They're going to be vital in saving it.

Four releases just this year:

Black Widow - July 9th 2021

Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings - September 3rd 2021

The Eternals - November 5th, 2021

Spider-Man: No Way Home - December 17th, 2021

Hopefully these do very, very well.

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there are some films you just can't beat seeing on the big screen and Marvel films are some of them. It is worth going purely for the surround sound when it comes to Marvel films.


I hope they clear $1bn each. People are gagging for a Marvel fix, it feels like forever since Endgame and Spiderman.

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Yup. We haven't had one since Boseman died either so be interesting to see if there is a tribute to him with the Marvel Logo as there was with Stan Lee.

Really looking forward to cinemas being back though. I hope they show a lot of the ones we've missed like Nomadland

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That would be flipping fantastic, I hadn't thought of that. I would love to hear him say "Wakanda forever" again as well.

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Well they did one for Black Panther, so they may put a tribute in future movies.