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Stephen 10-02-2018 20:13
Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl
 
I get preserving old movies but I also understand some things may be too bad to show now.

Mad Max 10-02-2018 20:17
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It's PC gone mad, we have ppl in this country that are so easily offended that it's scary!

alwaysabear 10-02-2018 20:22
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35936395)
It's PC gone mad, we have ppl in this country that are so easily offended that it's scary!
They get offended for other people that's the biggest problem.

Paul 10-02-2018 21:43
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35936394)
I get preserving old movies but I also understand some things may be too bad to show now.
This, quite frankly, is nonsense - no one is being forced to watch these old movies.

If the snowflakes cant hack it, they can just go watch the latest Big Brother, or whatever other nonsense they seem to think is good.

OLD BOY 10-02-2018 22:28
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35936405)
This, quite frankly, is nonsense - no one is being forced to watch these old movies.

If the snowflakes cant hack it, they can just go watch the latest Big Brother, or whatever other nonsense they seem to think is good.
I agree. I would also say that I am amazed that the younger generation tend to be attracted to such programmes, the content of which really is offensive!

Such strange standards we have these days!

Stephen 10-02-2018 23:03
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I am not saying things offend me but just that I get why some people would see things that way.

I watched a programme on ch5 last year called 'It was ok in the 70s' and showing old clips to the people that starred in them. Even they couldn't believe what they saw and were amazed they could get away with that sort of thing. Rascist and very sexist content.

Horizon 11-02-2018 15:45
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As I had to sack a mod on my site a month ago over the use of a "outdated" word, this is a hot issue for me...:(

As jj20x was trying to explain, society moves on and Ofcom is bound by the rules of today not yesterday.

I think with these old films (or shows) the way to go about them is not to ban them, but to put a clear warning up on the screen that the films/shows use language which is deemed unacceptable and in some cases, illegal, and so its up to the viewer whether they view them or not.

And before someone says it, I'm not a snowflake. Like most people, I believe, I can be as racist, sexist etc as the next person, but what one thinks and then writes down on a internet site, are two different things.

Think whatever you like, but be careful what you write.:nono: Or even, be careful as to what smilies you use now, as some can become "outdated" too...;)

Hom3r 11-02-2018 22:17
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The classic film dub is the dog in the Dam Busters.

In the oringinal it was called "N-Word" but TV dubbed it badly to Trigger.

With the remake in the pipe line its a dammed if yo do dammed if you don't scenario.

So the chose the other name used Nigsy.

pip08456 11-02-2018 22:53
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35936485)
The classic film dub is the dog in the Dam Busters.

In the oringinal it was called "N-Word" but TV dubbed it badly to Trigger.

With the remake in the pipe line its a dammed if yo do dammed if you don't scenario.

So the chose the other name used Nigsy.
Like it or not historically the dogs name was nigger. I may not condone the use of the word but whitewashing history does no-one any favours.

Horizon 11-02-2018 23:07
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That's true, but sometimes history should stay history.

pip08456 12-02-2018 00:33
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35936491)
That's true, but sometimes history should stay history.
So no-one can be educated then? Without history how can anyone learn?

Paul 12-02-2018 04:19
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35936456)
Think whatever you like, but be careful what you write.:nono:
On "your" site especially it would appear. :erm:

ozsat 12-02-2018 08:12
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You can see the PC brigade going to RAF Skampton to dig up the dog's grave to again re-write history - or even exorcise hias ghost.

RichardCoulter 12-02-2018 10:35
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35936495)
So no-one can be educated then? Without history how can anyone learn?
Exactly. It would be like whitewashing what Hitler did or replacing the word Nigger each time black people were called it in Roots.

They were called it and it needs to be exposed and remembered.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35936485)
The classic film dub is the dog in the Dam Busters.

In the oringinal it was called "N-Word" but TV dubbed it badly to Trigger.

With the remake in the pipe line its a dammed if yo do dammed if you don't scenario.

So the chose the other name used Nigsy.
I appreciate that saying the N word is an attempt to be polite, but it always leaves me scratching my head.

Gay people were called Queers, but we don't say "the Q word", disabled people were called Spastics, but we don't say "the S word", women were referred to as "Bitches", but we don't say "the B word" etc

Racial insults shouldn't be put on a pedestal and treated as if they are somehow more offensive than what other groups have been exposed to.

Secondly, when someone writes or says the N word, our brain works out what is meant and our neurological pathways lead to what was meant anyway!

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35936456)
As I had to sack a mod on my site a month ago over the use of a "outdated" word, this is a hot issue for me...:(

As jj20x was trying to explain, society moves on and Ofcom is bound by the rules of today not yesterday.

I think with these old films (or shows) the way to go about them is not to ban them, but to put a clear warning up on the screen that the films/shows use language which is deemed unacceptable and in some cases, illegal, and so its up to the viewer whether they view them or not.

And before someone says it, I'm not a snowflake. Like most people, I believe, I can be as racist, sexist etc as the next person, but what one thinks and then writes down on a internet site, are two different things.

Think whatever you like, but be careful what you write.:nono: Or even, be careful as to what smilies you use now, as some can become "outdated" too...;)
I accept that people cannot simply type whatever floats into their head onto the internet and that this could lead to action being taken against them.

Typing out racial insults to purposely upset a person or persons, incite racial hatred or committing a public order offence would be illegal, but I don't believe that a discussion like this would be found to be illegal. Even Ofcom found it necessary to state the words used when dealing with the complaints.

So, it depends on what context your moderator used the word as to whether you were being oversensitive or not.

I'm not sure which smilies you mean; how on Earth can a smilie be racist??

heero_yuy 12-02-2018 11:14
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Quote:
Quote from RichardCoulter:



So, it depends on what context your moderator used the word as to whether you were being oversensitive or not.
It is a cultural difference: The word is totally unacceptable in any context in Europe and the USA but apparently is is common use in South Africa and there is not considered as an insult.

It is in the swear filter on this site and has been added to ours.

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I'm not sure which smilies you mean; how on Earth can a smilie be racist??
:dmonk: Used in the wrong context. There's probably some others.

OLD BOY 12-02-2018 11:45
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35936533)
It is a cultural difference: The word is totally unacceptable in any context in Europe and the USA but apparently is is common use in South Africa and there is not considered as an insult.

It is in the swear filter on this site and has been added to ours.



:dmonk: Used in the wrong context. There's probably some others.
Funny, that. I just saw that emoji as a guy having a problem balancing, to be used to depict someone with a dodgy argument, skating on thin ice, etc.

Didn't notice he was black until I wondered what you meant by it.

Frankly, that's no more racially offensive that a white guy doing exactly the same thing. Could be sexist, though, because he's quite obviously male!

heero_yuy 12-02-2018 13:38
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Quote:
Quote from Old Boy:


Funny, that. I just saw that emoji as a guy having a problem balancing, to be used to depict someone with a dodgy argument, skating on thin ice, etc.

Didn't notice he was black until I wondered what you meant by it.

Frankly, that's no more racially offensive that a white guy doing exactly the same thing. Could be sexist, though, because he's quite obviously male!
Hover your mouse pointer over it. Says monkey.

RichardCoulter 12-02-2018 14:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35936533)
It is a cultural difference: The word is totally unacceptable in any context in Europe and the USA but apparently is is common use in South Africa and there is not considered as an insult.

It is in the swear filter on this site and has been added to ours.



:dmonk: Used in the wrong context. There's probably some others.
There was recently a case where a black child wore a T shirt with the words 'coolest monkey in the jungle' whilst modelling for H&M, which they had to apologise for:

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/...-monkey-hoodie

His (black) mother said she didn't see anything wrong with it.

It was commonplace to call children of all colours a 'cheeky monkey's when I was a child, perhaps that's now deemed racist?? It could be argued that those who take offence are the racist people as they are alikening black children to monkeys!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35936533)
It is a cultural difference: The word is totally unacceptable in any context in Europe and the USA but apparently is is common use in South Africa and there is not considered as an insult.

It is in the swear filter on this site and has been added to ours.

:dmonk: Used in the wrong context. There's probably some others.
The word 'Paki' is deemed racist here too, but perfectly acceptable in America. IIRC an American politician used it over here in all innocence and shocked those around him.

So, it seems that it's not only who says certain words, but where in the world they are said!

I was taken aback when a group of black lads were calling each other Niggers in a bar, but when discreetly mentioning bit to the landlord he said that it wouldn't be ok for a white person to say it to them and that what they were actually saying was 'Nigga', I'm not sure what difference that makes though. To me either a word is acceptable or it isn't.

Some gay people refer to themselves as 'Queer' and justify it by saying that they have reclaimed the word.

Hugh 12-02-2018 15:25
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35936550)
There was recently a case where a black child wore a T shirt with the words 'coolest monkey in the jungle' whilst modelling for H&M, which they had to apologise for:

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/...-monkey-hoodie

His (black) mother said she didn't see anything wrong with it.

It was commonplace to call children of all colours a 'cheeky monkey's when I was a child, perhaps that's now deemed racist?? It could be argued that those who take offence are the racist people as they are alikening black children to monkeys!

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The word 'Paki' is deemed racist here too, but perfectly acceptable in America. IIRC an American politician used it over here in all innocence and shocked those around him.

So, it seems that it's not only who says certain words, but where in the world they are said!

I was taken aback when a group of black lads were calling each other Niggers in a bar, but when discreetly mentioning bit to the landlord he said that it wouldn't be ok for a white person to say it to them and that what they were actually saying was 'Nigga', I'm not sure what difference that makes though. To me either a word is acceptable or it isn't.

Some gay people refer to themselves as 'Queer' and justify it by saying that they have reclaimed the word.
As I previously posted, context is all - as Charles M. Blow wrote
Quote:
MY father’s name is William Paul Coates. I, like my six brothers and sisters, have always addressed him as Dad. Strangers often call him Mr. Coates. His friends call him Paul. If a stranger or one of my father’s friends called him Dad, my father might have a conversation. When I was a child, relatives of my paternal grandmother would call my father Billy. Were I to ever call my father Billy, we would probably have a different conversation.

I have never called my father Billy. I understand, like most people, that words take on meaning within a context. It might be true that you refer to your spouse as Baby. But were I to take this as license to do the same, you would most likely protest. Right names depend on right relationships, a fact so basic to human speech that without it, human language might well collapse...

...A few summers ago one of my best friends invited me up to what he affectionately called his “white-trash cabin” in the Adirondacks. This was not how I described the outing to my family. Two of my Jewish acquaintances once joked that I’d “make a good Jew.” My retort was not, “Yeah, I certainly am good with money.” Gay men sometimes laughingly refer to one another as “******s.” My wife and her friends sometimes, when having a good time, will refer to one another with the word “bitch.” I am certain that should I decide to join in, I would invite the same hard conversation that would greet me, should I ever call my father Billy.
Regarding the N word and the usage of the word Queer, have you ever considered that it may be the people who were denigrated by the usage of the term(s) taking back the word, and empowering themselves by using it within their groups.

You said either a word is acceptable or it isn't, but that's a very simplistic view - you would never have been called the N word or Queer as an insult (or probably in any way) as you are neither, so who are you to tell someone who has had it used against them how they should use it - I know lots of Yorkshiremen who call each their Yorkshire friends "you tight barsteward", but if someone who they didn't know from London said it, they might take offence.

As I said, context is all, and like life, not black and white - ymmv.

OLD BOY 12-02-2018 15:30
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35936548)
Hover your mouse pointer over it. Says monkey.
I was often called a monkey when I was a child. Nothing wrong with that.

Or should I have been offended? Should it even have ruined my life?

Perhaps I should get compensation.....

That's how ridiculous we are all becoming. We need to all man up. Oops....:erm:

heero_yuy 12-02-2018 17:37
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Racist football "fans" often make monkey noises, gestures and throw bananas onto the pitch to insult black players. Context is all. :erm:

denphone 12-02-2018 18:06
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35936566)
Racist football "fans" often make monkey noises, gestures and throw bananas onto the pitch to insult black players. Context is all. :erm:
And they should be thrown out of football grounds and banned as its a terrible example to set for others.

Paul 12-02-2018 18:17
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35936566)
Racist football "fans" often make monkey noises, gestures and throw bananas onto the pitch to insult black players. Context is all. :erm:
What match was this ?

In the distant past, I have know noises to be made, but not at any match Ive been to in the last 20 or so years.

I have never seen a bananna thrown onto a pitch.

I do remember many years ago when inflatables were all the rage, one team had inflatable banana's.
No one thought that was an issue, just fun with inflatable fruit. No doubt some muppet would decide to get "offended" by them these days.


** No offence to muppets intended :D

OLD BOY 12-02-2018 18:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35936566)
Racist football "fans" often make monkey noises, gestures and throw bananas onto the pitch to insult black players. Context is all. :erm:
Yes, but that is very different because the word is used to insult and provoke. But if I laughingly said to someone in response to a cheeky comment ‘You monkey!’, I would not expect them to be offended, and certainly the black friends I know would not be.

However, what is galling is those white people who claim to be offended on behalf of black people. They simply don’t understand the issue at all. These were the people who used to call others out for asking for ‘black coffee’. What were they thinking? That being black was something to be ashamed of?

I think we all need to be a little more thick skinned.

Hugh 12-02-2018 19:09
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35936569)
What match was this ?

In the distant past, I have know noises to be made, but not at any match Ive been to in the last 20 or so years.

I have never seen a bananna thrown onto a pitch.

I do remember many years ago when inflatables were all the rage, one team had inflatable banana's.
No one thought that was an issue, just fun with inflatable fruit. No doubt some muppet would decide to get "offended" by them these days.


** No offence to muppets intended :D
Some recent examples

2015 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...monkey-6801775

2017 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/new...monkey-racist/

2017 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/footb...s-league-fans/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...d-by-Uefa.html

2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27279997

2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...peaks-out.html

2017 http://m-api.allfootballapp.com/article/204368

Mad Max 12-02-2018 19:20
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Just to keep it on a fair representation.....


https://www.scotsman.com/sport/footb...gram-1-4686696

RichardCoulter 12-02-2018 21:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35936556)
As I previously posted, context is all - as Charles M. Blow wrote

Regarding the N word and the usage of the word Queer, have you ever considered that it may be the people who were denigrated by the usage of the term(s) taking back the word, and empowering themselves by using it within their groups.

You said either a word is acceptable or it isn't, but that's a very simplistic view - you would never have been called the N word or Queer as an insult (or probably in any way) as you are neither, so who are you to tell someone who has had it used against them how they should use it - I know lots of Yorkshiremen who call each their Yorkshire friends "you tight barsteward", but if someone who they didn't know from London said it, they might take offence.

As I said, context is all, and like life, not black and white - ymmv.
Yes, I've heard some gay people say that they are reclaiming the word Queer and empowering themselves by doing so, I got the impression that the young black lads were doing it to appear 'street'.

Interesting that you've used the N word to describe one insult, but Queer for another (not a criticism, just an observation).

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35936570)
Yes, but that is very different because the word is used to insult and provoke. But if I laughingly said to someone in response to a cheeky comment ‘You monkey!’, I would not expect them to be offended, and certainly the black friends I know would not be.

However, what is galling is those white people who claim to be offended on behalf of black people. They simply don’t understand the issue at all. These were the people who used to call others out for asking for ‘black coffee’. What were they thinking? That being black was something to be ashamed of?

I think we all need to be a little more thick skinned.
Oh yes, I remember that black/white coffee phase. I think the PC types wanted everyone to say coffee with or without milk instead.

These actions only serve to belittle the real issues and are nothing more than (normally white) people trying to collect brownie points by virtue signalling.

I was once called racist for saying I had got myself into a "prickly situation"!

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I'm surprised at this, I thought that the Kick Racism/Homophobia campaigns had led to the cessation of such incidents. Stewards are said to be on the lookout for such behaviour and people have been ordered to leave or banned from stadia as a result.

I think that some teams have had points deducted for the behaviour of their fans too.

Paul 12-02-2018 23:27
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Ok, but all of those (excpet one I think) are in other countries, and one was on a bus, not at a match.

denphone 13-02-2018 05:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35936595)
Ok, but all of those (excpet one I think) are in other countries, and one was on a bus, not at a match.
The trouble is its a bit like the hooligans in the 70's and 80's and 90's in the UK as it has been generally stamped out at football grounds but like many other things its still there but not at football grounds generally.

RichardCoulter 13-02-2018 15:04
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Surprisingly, the self labelled 'Queen of political correctness' Yasmin Alibhai-Brown today said that an American high school were wrong and stupid in banning novels by the authors Harper Lee and Mark Twain on the grounds that they contained racist terminology which marginalised and humiliated some students.

She went on to say that the words used were prevalent at the time and that this is the reason why they are important and that novels like To Kill a Mocking Bird were essential reading as they showed today's students what it felt like to be called such names and that any discomfort felt by today's students should come secondary to this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...of-N-word.html

Carth 13-02-2018 16:02
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I'm almost 64, I wish the compensation claim culture had been around when in my 20's, I'd have been rich enough to never work again.

Racism/homophobia have been around years . . and will remain for years. It gets lots more attention now because of the advances in media technology and (often) it is used to make the accuser look lilly white in a world of grey (can I write that? )

One of the worst things to help keep racism/homophobia alive and kicking is the constant exposure it gets, I think everyone knows it's a 'nono' by now, you don't need to shove it in our faces every 10 minutes. The more of it I see in the media, the more I lose interest in it.

Hugh 13-02-2018 18:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35936650)
I'm almost 64, I wish the compensation claim culture had been around when in my 20's, I'd have been rich enough to never work again.

Racism/homophobia have been around years . . and will remain for years. It gets lots more attention now because of the advances in media technology and (often) it is used to make the accuser look lilly white in a world of grey (can I write that? )

One of the worst things to help keep racism/homophobia alive and kicking is the constant exposure it gets, I think everyone knows it's a 'nono' by now, you don't need to shove it in our faces every 10 minutes. The more of it I see in the media, the more I lose interest in it.
Luckily you haven’t hadn’t been on the receiving end of racism or homophobia - I would imagine those who have are really fed up with it.

Paul 13-02-2018 19:42
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Probably, but that doesnt change the point.
If you keep banging on about something people get fed up, and stop listening.

Hugh 13-02-2018 21:59
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35936695)
Probably, but that doesnt change the point.
If you keep banging on about something people get fed up, and stop listening.
And if you don’t ‘bang on about it’, people carry on behaving that way, because no one says anything, so it can’t be a problem.

Paul 13-02-2018 22:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35936719)
And if you don’t ‘bang on about it’, people carry on behaving that way, because no one says anything, so it can’t be a problem.
Not true.
You can say something without going on, and on, and on, and on, about it.


but if you keep banging on about it, people get fed up, and stop listening.

Rinse and repeat.

Carth 13-02-2018 22:59
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Oh come on Hugh, you know what we mean.
Nobody is suggesting it should be ignored, but the more something is shouted from the rooftops the more it becomes just background 'noise' that has little impact.

Years ago there were things in the news that made me sit up and take notice, now those same things have become so commonplace that it has lost the 'shock/horror' effect. If you hear something long enough it simply becomes background noise.

oh, and if I was a sportsman earning (a minimum) 20K+ a week and people in the crowd called me names, I'd laugh and thank them for contributing to my wages ;)

Mad Max 13-02-2018 23:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35936724)
Oh come on Hugh, you know what we mean.
Nobody is suggesting it should be ignored, but the more something is shouted from the rooftops the more it becomes just background 'noise' that has little impact.

Years ago there were things in the news that made me sit up and take notice, now those same things have become so commonplace that it has lost the 'shock/horror' effect. If you hear something long enough it simply becomes background noise.

oh, and if I was a sportsman earning (a minimum) 20K+ a week and people in the crowd called me names, I'd laugh and thank them for contributing to my wages ;)

You can x10 that in many cases in the EPL mate....

OLD BOY 14-02-2018 09:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35936724)
Oh come on Hugh, you know what we mean.
Nobody is suggesting it should be ignored, but the more something is shouted from the rooftops the more it becomes just background 'noise' that has little impact.

Years ago there were things in the news that made me sit up and take notice, now those same things have become so commonplace that it has lost the 'shock/horror' effect. If you hear something long enough it simply becomes background noise.

oh, and if I was a sportsman earning (a minimum) 20K+ a week and people in the crowd called me names, I'd laugh and thank them for contributing to my wages ;)
Quite right, Carth. About 15 years ago, I was shocked to hear the 'F' word used in some American series, but now it's used so much, it has lost its shock value. Hell, it may even become mainstream in another couple of decades, and no longer regarded as a swear word.

People need to be less sensitive to the use of words. An insult or threat is unpleasant whether you use those words or not, but to use such words casually in a sentence without deliberately demeaning someone likely to hear it is not worth getting in a state about.

RichardCoulter 22-02-2018 15:46
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This story has now reached the mainstream media.

According to Channel 5, Ofcom believe that such words can be used as long as a warning is given beforehand and any programming containing them is shown after the watershed.

A black woman and a white woman were asked for their views about this. The black woman stated that she believed that there was no need for such words to be used and that they should be removed. The white woman said that she believed that it was dangerous to rewrite history and that it was important that the way black people were treated be remembered for the benefit of younger people and future generations.

alwaysabear 22-02-2018 15:56
Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35938034)
This story has now reached the mainstream media.

According to Channel 5, Ofcom believe that such words can be used as long as a warning is given beforehand and any programming containing them is shown after the watershed.

A black woman and a white woman were asked for their views about this. The black woman stated that she believed that there was no need for such words to be used and that they should be removed. The white woman said that she believed that it was dangerous to rewrite history and that it was important that the way black people were treated be remembered for the benefit of younger people and future generations.
That was said on the Wright stuff this morning, by two of the panelists.
Erasing history for whatever reason, is very dangerous imo.

pip08456 22-02-2018 16:30
Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl
 
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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35938036)
That was said on the Wright stuff this morning, by two of the panelists.
Erasing history for whatever reason, is very dangerous imo.
Quite right. Erasing history does no-one any favours.

heero_yuy 22-02-2018 17:44
Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl
 
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Quote from alwaysabear:


That was said on the Wright stuff this morning, by two of the panelists.
Erasing history for whatever reason, is very dangerous imo.
Those that forget their history are doomed to repeat it.


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