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General Maximus

17-05-2018 13:08

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I have just had a bit of a chuckle. I have been looking at the advanced bookings page for my Odeon seeing if there is anything new I can book advanced . As I have mentioned previously Solo is on in 5 screens at midnight next week. I have just had a look at the seating plans for all the screens and there are only ~10 seats booked in each screen. I think they have shot themselves in the foot with this one because with the other Star Wars movies and especially TLJ it was sold out long before now.

Paul	17-05-2018 17:46

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The timing of the release is a bit poor in the UK as well.

Its the day before may people will be going away for a weeks holiday (Me included) so I wont be seeing it until June.

Stephen

17-05-2018 20:57

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Well my local cine world has so far 135 seats booked in 2D, Superscreen has 67 seats booked, 4DX has 12 booked, 45 3D seats booked, 22 VIP 2D seats booked and 1 VIP 3D seat booked for all midnight showings.

I expect this to increase in next few days.

So far reviews all sound like it's generally good and a lot of fun, with the first act being rather poor.

admars

22-05-2018 12:44

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"It's a speed trap"

https://twitter.com/TheWookieeRoars/...28315777859585

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General Maximus

22-05-2018 14:37

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That's great, i love stuff like this

General Maximus

22-05-2018 18:49

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Stephen

24-05-2018 08:50

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According to the deductions in this article Solo takes place 9 years before A New Hope. Making Han about 20 in this.

https://www.elitedaily.com/p/when-do...d-know-9178320

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According to Smuggler’s Run - A Han Solo & Chewbacca Adventure, which is a Star Wars: The Force Awakens prequel novel, and therefore part of the new canon, Chewie was at the Battle of Kashyyyk in Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith. And moreover, the book states he's 180 years old. That battle takes place in the year 19 BBY*, not long before the birth of the twins, means Chewie was 180 years old when they were born, when Han was all of 10.

techguyone

28-05-2018 19:43

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44283427

Everywhere I've frequented online (rather a lot of places) it's being described as 'underwhelming' I'd suggest at this point that franchise fatigue has set in - still just over another year for the next. hey ho :D

General Maximus

28-05-2018 20:08

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35948375)

it's being described as 'underwhelming' I'd suggest at this point that franchise fatigue has set in

they just need to learn that they don't shit gold and lots of thought and TLC needs to go into making a quality film. Although I thought I was going to be proved wrong, people aren't going to watch something just because it says "Star Wars" on the front. This poor start will put it on track for a $500 million gross which is what I predicted a few weeks ago. I didn't think it was going to happen though. Hopefully this will give them pause for though for the future and make them carefully consider who they get to do the films and how they do them. Out of the zillions of actors who must have auditioned for the role of Han, who picks somebody who can't flipping act?

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Weekend Estimates: Solo Opens Lower than Expected with $101 million, Still Dominates Competition

Solo: A Star Wars Story opened with an estimated $83 million / $101 million over the three-day / four-day weekend. It had the best Memorial Day long weekend since 2014, when X-Men: Days of Future Past opened with $111 million over four days. In fact, this result is the fourth best Memorial Day long weekend opening in the past decade. That said, it was much lower than expected and some are calling it a box office failure. That’s complicated. The film was originally going to cost $150 million to make, making it the cheapest installment in the new Star Wars franchise. However, they reportedly had to reshoot 70% of the movie, which lifted the price to $250 million. The box office needed to break even during the film’s initial push into the home market rose from about $500 million to $650 million. And with an initial international debut of $65.0 million in 54 markets, this film is just not going to get there. The unending talk of behind-the-scenes trouble seems to have hurt the film’s box office chances and even its good reviews and its A minus from CinemaScore won’t be enough to turn things around. That said, it is far from a complete disaster and the franchise will continue, although it might be wise for Disney to not release so many installments in the franchise so quickly. Three in 18 months is a bit too much.

General Maximus

29-05-2018 08:09

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millarman

05-06-2018 19:20

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Solo was officially declared a flop today!

Hugh	05-06-2018 19:22

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I enjoyed it - 7/10.

It was a heist movie in the Star Wars universe, filling in some of the Han/Chewie/Lando & Millennium Falcon back-story.

Stephen

05-06-2018 20:03

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Originally Posted by millarman (Post 35949393)

Solo was officially declared a flop today!

By who?

I don't know many people that actually didn't enjoy it.

General Maximus

05-06-2018 20:10

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Solo: A Star Wars Story fell 65% to $29.40 million over the weekend for a two-week total of $148.99 million. The film is on pace to reach $200 million domestically, which would have been enough to break even eventually, had the film not needed extensive and expensive reshoots. Disney should still be very happy with the overall franchise, but will hopefully slow down the number of films that come out to one every other year.

Stephen

05-06-2018 20:14

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Where was the quote from?

Even folk who disliked TLJ really liked it.

Hugh	05-06-2018 21:10

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https://www.the-numbers.com/news/231...from-Wonderful

Damien

05-06-2018 22:30

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I think Disney had braced themselves for the film to perform poorly after the problems they had in production and I am not sure if they thought Ron Howard could turn it around or salvage it and protect the franchise - otherwise why pay so much to reshoot so much of the film?

I am also not sure why they released it so near Infinity War and Deadpool since the franchises are big this year.

Chris

05-06-2018 22:38

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I saw it on Friday night and loved it. I especially loved the imperial military recruitment video that used John Williams’ Imperial March as its theme tune. :D

General Maximus

05-06-2018 23:11

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35949401)

I don't know many people that actually didn't enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35949403)

Even folk who disliked TLJ really liked it.

yup, that is why it is doing so well

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35949418)

I am also not sure why they released it so near Infinity War and Deadpool since the franchises are big this year.

I can't remember the reasoning for it but originally it was planned for xmas like the other new Star Wars movies and they made the decision to bring it forward to May.to coincide with the release dates of the earlier movies.

Stephen

05-06-2018 23:30

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http://www.slashfilm.com/solo-box-office-failure/

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Solo: A Star Wars Story has “only” garnered $264 million at the box office. While $264 seems like a lot of money (note: if anyone wants to give me “only” $264 million, I’d be fine with that), it’s a low figure for a Star Wars movie. The bad box office has inspired a plethora of takes. Some blame franchise fatigue; some think the film should’ve moved to a December release date, since December seems to be the new home for Star Wars; some think the behind-the-scenes production woes, like the firing of original directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller, turned off fans. But maybe the real reason Solo failed is marketing.

techguyone

06-06-2018 08:03

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It's more like the costs, wasn't 80% reshot? plus 3? directors coming and going, It's probably easier to think of it as costing the same as two non problem beset films would have cost.

It's a flop, for those doubting, it's been like everywhere you look online, are they all wrong?

I know people like to cling to their franchises but this one needs a break possibly a retirement. The only thing half decent that came out in the last ten years was Rogue One and that too was reshot extensively.

Here's a thought, stop all the SJW bullshit 'The Force is Female' :rolleyes:, get rid of Kathleen Kennedy and try again - in about 3 years.

Stephen

06-06-2018 09:22

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It flopped in terms of money yes.

If they had stuck to the December 2018 date it might have done better.

They reshot about 70% of the film but Ron Howard said the script was never changed. Whereas Rogue One changed the full third act during reshoots.

Chris

06-06-2018 10:22

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It sounds to me as if the real problem has been dubious hiring decisions. If anyone needs kicking, it is someone higher up the food chain at Disney who doesn’t seem to know how to hire/brief a senior production team.

I’ll say it again: I loved Solo, and I was delighted that they so obviously set it up for a sequel with the reveal at the end.

Hugh	06-06-2018 10:31

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35949462)

It sounds to me as if the real problem has been dubious hiring decisions. If anyone needs kicking, it is someone higher up the food chain at Disney who doesn’t seem to know how to hire/brief a senior production team.

I’ll say it again: I loved Solo, and I was delighted that they so obviously set it up for a sequel with the reveal at the end.

Agreed

Damien

06-06-2018 10:41

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35949452)

Here's a thought, stop all the SJW bullshit 'The Force is Female' :rolleyes:, get rid of Kathleen Kennedy and try again - in about 3 years.

Of all the objections to the Star Wars films the idea casting a female lead is the weakest. Everytime a woman is given a top role people accuse films of 'SJW' agendas. Also the ones with Rey are not the films that have problems with production, reviews or commercial success.

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35949458)

They reshot about 70% of the film but Ron Howard said the script was never changed. Whereas Rogue One changed the full third act during reshoots.

We'll never know what the actual problem with the original was since there was never a final cut of what the film would have been. It sounds like budgets spiralled out of control, the directors took too long to get their shots and were unclear on it and Disney seemed to freak out at what they were seeing.

The reshoots on Rogue One were objections to the ending. It wasn't as extensive a overhaul as what happened with Solo. A few reshoots is more common than reshooting so much of the film.

Disney probably do need to look at how they've managed to be unhappy at both of the non-Skywalker Star Wars films. Bizarrely it seems they give the director/writers on the main part of the franchise more freedom than they do the the 'spin-off' films.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35949462)

I’ll say it again: I loved Solo, and I was delighted that they so obviously set it up for a sequel with the reveal at the end.

I would be surprised if they did a sequel considering the performance of this film. Especially since it's an easy timeline to ditch.

General Maximus

06-06-2018 10:45

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35949452)

I know people like to cling to their franchises but this one needs a break possibly a retirement.

I agree, they need to scrap the Bobba Fett film as well (and the Rian Johnson trilogy imho) and concentrate on quality over quantity and let GoT guys do their thing plus think of something else for the future. It isn't going to happen though because somebody will be thinking "one film per year = $10bn in merchandise". I would love to see a Yoda origin story trilogy which deals with the force and morals and all that stuff; true Star Warsness.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35949462)

If anyone needs kicking, it is someone higher up the food chain at Disney who doesn’t seem to know how to hire/brief a senior production team.

I disagree, Lucasfilm and Kathleen Kennedy are supposed to have complete autonomy over the Star Wars franchise with no interference from Disney at all. If someone needs to go maybe it is Kathleen Kennedy, Lawrence Kasden or the casting director. Disney might get involved now but this is only one flop out of five so as far they are concerned it probably isn't an issue.

admars

06-06-2018 11:37

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it may end up not being a commercial flop.

I know a few of you haven't enjoyed it, but all the real life people I know have, some people would have been put off seeing this one after Last Jedi, but when friends family etc tell them it's good will go and see it.

plus they know fully well, that the Blu Ray and DVD will sell by the bucket load, perhaps it will do better than anticipated, as I'd imagine the ppl more interested in this film, were the older fans, who are perhaps more likely to wait for home release, due to the cost of cinema.

(4 of my last 6 cinema visits have been Star Wars, the other 2 kids' films, years ago I'd go at least once a month!)

techguyone

06-06-2018 11:48

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When I refer to the SJW thing, I'm not referring to Rey per se, how about Admiral fcukwit Holdo, the 'feminist droid in Solo, the general 'man is bad, women is good' themes entering in the last few films, the last franchise that did that 'Ghostbusters' also flopped miserably, why is that?
We're all misogynist pigs?

Or perhaps we don't need that rammed down our faces all the time, Here's some examples of non SJW feminist friendly and palatable films.
Alien/Aliens, I'll toss in Terminator too for an added bonus.
Gasp, horror these came out in the 70's & 80's how progressive...

Fact of the matter is, people dislike continually being told they're something they're not.

Hugh	06-06-2018 13:55

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L3-37 wasnt a feminist droid, she was a revolutionary droid, who wanted emancipation for droids, rather than them just being owned - it just happened to have a female voice.

Damien

06-06-2018 14:12

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Even if she was a feminist droid I wouldn't really see the issue. This is a world with all sorts of characters, of different species, different races and stuff. If talking droids, Yoda and evil guys who can shoot lasers out of their hands exist then I don't see feminists as a step too far. :D

General Maximus

07-06-2018 07:29

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General Maximus

25-09-2018 19:56

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