Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

SNP seat losses hits double figures.

SNP lose Aberdeen South to Tories.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

I give her six months and some justice that the writer of the manifesto has lost his seat tories are in trouble here and the young ironically after calling the older one's selfish for the EU vote have done exactly the same in their voting hoping for a cash windfall and not bothering to check if it's even practical.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Sinn Feinn are one up ... could prove crucial when the dust settles ...

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

She could be gone in weeks! The Tories seem like they'll make it across the line but this isn't what she, or anyone else, expected. She has lost her gamble and I think she'll be out soon surely?

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Looks like David Davis might be conceding they've lost their mandate to leave the customs union: https://twitter.com/mattholehouse/st...92469096562691

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Labour have won Canterbury! Could be the student vote there.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

With more than 300 seats now declared, the BBC has updated its forecast. The Conservatives are predicted to end the night on 318 seats, eight short of an outright majority.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2017-40171454

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Tim Farron hangs on, 777 majority.

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Avoiding the forecast until Scotland is done. May didn't speak like someone that had any intention of quitting so she'd have to be pushed.

King Boris step up.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Oh great boris because things aren't bad enough.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Just heard Theresa's speech. Didn't sound very strong and stable. Poor bint, she might be one of the few human beings in the Tory party. A much more nasty leader is needed for that lot.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

It looks very much like Northern Ireland is going to decide this.

The more Shinners there are, the smaller the number of seats needed for a majority. And the more DUP there are, the easier it is for the Tories to get the numbers they need.

That said, had Ruth Davidson not played an absolute blinder in Scotland, even the DUP couldn't save the Tories.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Jeremy Clarkson in as deputy PM to round it off.

May mentioned stability over and over again too. Someone get the lady some more stability. Do Amazon sell it?

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Interestingly it appears the paper press has misread their readers to an extent. Unusual from The Sun for example.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Would still love a media that didn't push parties via their outlets. Looking at you Rupert...

I wonder if the fallout from all this will delay any sort of headway into further privacy invasion regarding the terror events recently. Rather than diving into that and coming to a rash decision whilst people are still very affected.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Yes certain newspapers ran campaigns based on a personal character assassination tone and this seems to have failed dismally it seems.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Labour voters can always just say Russia interfered. Where's the 11th hour email investigation? This doesn't feel like an election at all. Haven't even heard a single candidate saying they want to grab someone by the genitals.

Seriously though, just watching how mellow this is shows you how overdramatic and ludicrous the US election was.

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Just realised that South Perthshire and Ochil was Tasmina Ahmed-shriek's seat. I am so glad she's gone.

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Lib dems are talking about brexit being soft now hopefully they will be as ignored at westminster as they are by the british public.

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Anyone but himself then..

So excited for all the doomsday naysayer viral Facebook garbage when the dust settles. Brexit 2.0 ft Harold Camping.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Tories take Berwickshire and Roxburgh. :D

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Looks like SF have gained 2 or 3 seats, and the rest are DUP, except one independent.

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And STIRLING!

I am so happy right now.

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Six Shinners takes the winning post down to 323. The DUP have 10. It seems the Tories are going to get more than 314, so with a little delicate negotiation they should be able to get the DUP on board and have a working majority, if a slim one. Whoever the Tory PM is, is going to have a very delicate balancing act to do.

And let's not even start trying to factor in how many by-elections there are likely to be in the next five years. Squeaky bum time.

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Do you not think there is going to be another election? Scrapping past the post with the help of the DUP isn't going to work for 5 years.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Salmond defenestrated :rofl:

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Alex Salmond OUT. Tory Gain.

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They'll be mad to call another one. They would almost certainly lose more seats.

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l always detested this extremely arrogant man so even though it has gone Conservative getting rid of him gives one great pleasure.:)

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Personally l cannot see it going for 5 more years as well.

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What are your thoughts on Theresa Mays position Chris after tonight?.

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I think she is secretly relieved.

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Tories take Banff & Buchan off the Nats as well. It just gets better and better.

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Extremely precarious. It's not clear who can replace her though, although I can't help wondering whether David Davis might have his eye on her job.

It's not at all clear how there's time for a Tory leadership contest though, with Brexit negotiations getting started in less than a fortnight.

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I don't think so. I think if they changed leader, had a more inclusive campaign with an actual offer to the electorate other than 'Brexit means Brexit' and a better campaign they could do it...

Either way is a government with a handful of seats as a majority propped up by the DUP is going to a nightmare for 5 years.

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Anna Soubry has put the knife in.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

So is Ruth Davidson and David Davies or at least hinting at it.

I think the hard Brexit mandate isn't there. Labour support Brexit, it's happening, but I am less sure on the type of Brexit.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

According to one source just now l hear its 50/50 that she could go tomorrow and apparently Boris is always manoeuvring for the top job.

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Pretty damning l would say.

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I can't see the party putting Boris forward for it, not with Brexit now at the very gates.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Amber Rudd holds on by a few hundred votes.

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Picture of David Cameron has emerged as he heard the exit poll...



BTW John Curtice has done it again...

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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

With just 27 seats left to declare, turnout is running at 68.6% - the highest for a UK general election since 1997.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

And youth turnout is initially looking to be 72%!

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Well the article 50 I read off the EU site seemed pretty clear that a hard exit is all that's on offer and I don't think this election was a judgement on hard brexit I think most people picked up on Theresa mays pathetically bad campaign. She allowed corbyn to get ahead and never really pinned him down on the costing of his manifesto it was the worst election campaign I can remember the torys doing. I doubt she will last three months and I'm starting to think this was deliberate on her part a way out without quitting.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Agreed.Theresa Maybe PM was so keen to win over the Brextremists in her party and UKIP voters that she forget the 48%.
Younger voters who felt their futures damaged by the Brexit vote were better motivated to vote. Add in a manifesto that would only add up if they borrowed Diane Abbott's magic calculator, the multiple u-turns and daft vote-losing things like a free vote for fox-hunting and the surprise diminishes.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Well done Mick for predicting a Hung Parliament!

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Her arrogance was/is her downfall. She went to the country for political reasons and has lost her gamble.

Her attempt to force a Hard Brexit on the country has clearly failed. The Tories need to reconsider their priorities ..

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I fully agree, Teresa May was so arrogant thinking that she would get a larger majority, she was wrong.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

She took the electorate for fools and that is a very dangerous thing to do IMO.

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Thanks. :)

Latest: May has no intention of resigning.

DUP have 10 seats. They could help Tories. They have already said they would not help Labour because of Corbyns past links to IRA.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Good to see the young vote getting out - participation is important.

They made a huge difference in our constituency, taking it from the Lib Dems (Greg was a good local MP).

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...ntry-1-8583558

UKIP down to 1.9% of the vote, just above the Greens.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Is this the biggest political mistake in modern (i.e since the way) political history? I know Ted Heath did the same thing but his position was never as strong as May's was just weeks ago.

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From now on we put money on Mick's political predictions.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Well looking at the CF exit poll makes me think we are a reflection of the country at large after all. ;)

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That means she will resign in a few weeks!

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Also issuing Article 50 when she did looks pretty stupid now

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To be replaced by whom?.

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She has a news conference later this morning...

Didn't Cameron have this, then he resigned?

Boris was already sharpening his knives after the exit poll last night.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

I agree in that it is good to see them participate but I think it only happened because of the promise of tuition fees being scrapped.

Now because Labour hasn't got in and that expectation will not be met I worry that they will now turn around and think voting is pointless.

The biggest parts of Labour's manifesto appears to be nothing more than a blatant attempt to bribe the electorate. It didn't work as well as the party expected though.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Interesting interview with Jeremy Corbyn on today's BBC Breakfast Time (08:44 today).

In other breaking news, Juventus are pretty clear who won the Champions League, and Tottenham Hotspur are pretty clear who won the Premier League...

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Deranged, everybody lost this election.

Torys lost their majority.
Labour are still 60 odd seats away from getting a majority
SNP lost a third
Libdems still miles away from where they used to be.

This is can only go one way and that is another election.

May will have to stand down, we will need a new Tory Leader and a new manifesto.

The Tories can still come back from this. Revise their stance on social care, focus on Brexit and they win back.

This was a monumental campaign effort from labour and I don't think they would be able to improve on this result, but Torys certainly could.

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Well that bold prediction lasted 10mins.

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Well let's and see. Can a Tory-DUP confidence and supply agreement (i assume that's what it is) with a majorty of 2-5 survive 5 years? Can May really stay as a strong and stable PM after that election?

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A journalist on Twitter has said this means no chance of boundary changes getting passed, I assumed they already had..

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It wont work, she'll get hammered at the despatch box every week.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

So we will now have a "coalition of chaos" then?

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Pretty much. Not satisfactory at all.

To get through the next 5 years we needed a government with a strong majority.

The Tories have managed to royally screw that up, it's a collapse of monumental proportions and the blame goes to whoever wrote that manifesto and instead of focusing on Brexit decided to try and use the lead they had in the polls to shoehorn in a load of other stuff that was deeply unpopular with their core base.

The reason she was doing well in the polls was purely because of Brexit. She had been dropped in it and was making a decent fist of it and people appreciated that.

She called the election because of Brexit

But then failed to mention anything about Brexit in the manifesto.

They let Labour set the agenda and this is the result.

Brexit is still the no.1 issue facing this country. They need to get that back front and centre.

I worry, I really do.

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Whoever came up with the manifesto should be sacked with immediate effect.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

The voters already did that...

http://www.independent.co.uk/News/uk...-a7780536.html

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Ben Gummer, and he yes lost his seat in Ipswich.

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I don't think focusing on Brexit is the answer. I think they went too hard on it and didn't offer much else. They did call it based on Brexit, one of the themes was that each vote would help her get a better deal and the last week of the campaign was focused almost entirely on it. In interviews May kept trying to pivot back to Brexit.

I think for a lot of people they wanted to know what else the Tories would do. May didn't campaign much, didn't go to debates and seemed to treat the electorate with contempt. That's what they should change.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Just because he lost his seat doesn't mean he will have no further involvement in party policy.

I'm happy he lost it though. Deservedly so, don't take the electorate as fools.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Best high five ever....

https://www.facebook.com/TheIndepend...4883422646636/

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Apparently she really only discussed it with her small inner circle rather then her full cabinet.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Btw it's a bad result but you have to admire just how impressive a screw up that was. 20 points clear with great leadership ratings, against someone whose own party thought wasn't up to it and a landscape where the issues help you and you contrive to blow it ? Amazing.

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Btw May is responsible ultimately for the manifesto as well

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Sturgeon about to make a statement in the next 5 mins, should be interesting. Resignation???

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

She won't resign pip.

Tim Farron has announced he is to make a statement as well in the next half hour.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Listening to her speech now, she's such a hypocrite.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Yep!

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Confirmed in this household.

My daughters all voted for the first time this election (for labour) because of this.
My other half also, because of the policy to stop giving the free school dinners to primary school kids (she works in a school kitchen).

As one Tory put it, they "shot themselves in the head".

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

She will hobble on with the help of the DUP but she is fatally wounded and one wonders how long she will now last as the PM.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Just to pick up on this... some people were slating Corbyn because of some supposed comments.

The same people are very silent regarding the conservatives teaming up with the DUP


Double standards?

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

cant see this parliament lasting the five years

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Why is it double standards ?

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

She will be gone by the end of the summer l predict.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Anyone want me to make a prediction ? ;)

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

The DUP have strong historical links to loyalist paramilitaries

Peter Robinson who was DUP leader and also first minister was an active member of Ulster Resistance


I don't understand how it's OK to berate Corbyn but yet this is perfectly acceptable?

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Go on then.....;)

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Mmm. Lefties grasping a bit I think.

There's a yawning chasm between Sinn Feinn, the longstanding political mouthpiece of the IRA, and the DUP, which flirted for about 12 months with an organisation that isn't known to have killed anyone, and put at least as much energy into acquiring nice berets as weapons.

Still, let them whinge, Tories + DUP is a majority and there's nothing they can do about it, unless Jez's pals in Sinn Feinn decide to take up their seats after all.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

I agree

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Nowhere have I said this is acceptable. I wanted May to get a majority.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Look on the bright side - Salmond GONE, Robertson GONE, Sturgeon looking even more silly than May having lost a third of her 'pro independence' seats. :)

Then of course there was the icing on top of the cake news of Clegg, GONE. :D

Looks like his pro-remain stance wasn't quite as popular as he liked to portray.

The way some folks are talking anyone would think Corbyn's Labour had won when in reality they haven't despite being the big beneficiaries of a poor campaign by May and her team.

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

How right you were den, didn't really mention seats lost either. She has lost momentum on a second Independence vote though!

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Some information on the party TM wants to bring on board to help her decide the future of this country:

7 things you didn't know about the DUP

1. They have called for the return of the death penalty
2. They've faced concerns over their comments about LGBT people
3. They once had an MP in Basingstoke
4. The party is iffy on climate change
5. They want more public spending
6. And to avoid a hard Brexit
7. They disagree with the Tories on key parts of the manifesto

Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
 

Sturgeon is just as slimy and obnoxious as her predecessor and after last night it will go even more downhill for her in the future.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Well if they agreed on everything, there would be no point in them existing would there. Hardly earth shattering points.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

You noticed that too. :)

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I can see Corbyn new slogan already.

"I did as well as Gordon Brown". :tu: :tu:

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Typical. I missed an "and" from Q2.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

It's all relative though. He wasn't defending as many seats, he saw a better gain in both seats and votes whereas Brown lost it.

But more than anything it's two fingers up at everyone who said he would get destroyed.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

I'm just waiting for Liverpool to send their letter to the Premier League contesting the outcome of Chelsea winning the title because Liverpool did better than expected.

Conceded.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Not a fan of him but he communicated his message far more with the public then May who was wooden and wanted to avoid the public generally all the time thinking all she had to do was to repeat our robotic slogans and messages all the time.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Did you read the link? This is the Telegraph i quoted ...

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Yes, I read the link, why ?

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

This is an article from today's Telegraph. I thought it was interesting what the conservative media think of the DUP.

Do you really need to make such childish remarks? I guess you are upset about the Election but don't take your fustration out on me.

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Just wondering :)

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Labour drove a hard campaign. They had activists outside schools etc handing out leaflets about education cuts.

That said, it's leader, was still a catalyst to not running home. Had this been Andy Burnham. Yvette cooper, Labour would have romped home.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Unlikely, as they're​ still stuck in the 'New' Labour/Milliband days so would have been tarred with the same brush that cost Labour at the last two elections. I think the new leadership is helping people realise there is actually a different approach to Conservative/Conservative light.

Cheers

Dave

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

You're OK with the conservatives teaming up with a party that are pro anti abortion & have blocked same sex marriage?

It's OK for the following?

DUP politician Trevor Clarke last year said he thought only gay people could contract aids and HIV.

?????

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Go Jezza the people have spoken as for the DUP they are more right wing than the Tory's.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

From todays comments in the Spectator:
Says it all really, well put.

Re: The 2017 General Election
 

Good to see that Labour was not alone in not being fiscally sound in its manifesto. I'm amazed so many Conservatives attacked Corbyn's spending plans when theirs were uncosted. Believable.