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l was talking to my nurse this morning about the choice for the electorate in France , America and Britain and basically l said its about picking the best of a bad bunch IMO as sadly the calibre of politician we have nowadays compared to the past is not that good IMO.

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Actually, I didn't care one iota. Macron winning now paves the way for the possibility of a no deal and hard brexit from that pile of garbage. Guess I'm not bonkers after all for not wanting to be associated with a corrupted entity.

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Agreed. It makes much more likely what I and many others voted for: A complete break from the EU. Not EU lite that the remoaners seem to want.

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Anybody, especially Mr Junckers and his ilk, that think this result means that everything is hunky dory in EU land best be very very careful about how they go about their business over the next 5 years.

The Right has risen across Europe, so much so that they are now in the mainstream and not on the fringes. If the EU refuses to change their outlook and acknowledge their failed ideology and policies then they will be doomed.

Just because the pro-EU centre parties have won this round of elections (Germany still to go obviously) it does not guarantee anything in the next 5 years.

If I was the EU commission, I would be relieved but not triumphant. They need to change and to do that they need to get rid of the self serving dinosaurs like Junckers out of the commission.

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Don't get your love for corruption. But don't get complacent, they are still losing a major financial and contributing member. Plus there is no way we will be paying a hefty divorce bill, those fools deserve nothing.

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Still think the EU is going to implode and suck itself into it's own arse. Just not as fast as people assumed or 'hoped'

Greece are on standby, licking their lips at the thought of being up on the big boys table, ready to fund the billions' gap the UK is leaving. They just need to wire some collateral to Nigeria.

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and so Angela Merkel wins the French election and puts puppet in charge .

the French have rolled over like they did in 1940 except this time they saved Germany the bullets and the fuel .

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Rehashing xenophobic Leave.EU memes now?

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A Brexit campaign group poured scorn on France and Emmanuel Macron after the centrist newcomer comfortably defeated his far-right opponent Marine Le Pen in Sunday’s presidential election runoff.

The Twitter account of Leave.EU, the pro-Brexit pressure group set up by Nigel Farage for last year’s referendum, tweeted that the French people had once again “rolled over” just as they had done in 1940 – except this time they saved Germany “the bullets and the fuel”. The tweet also included a picture of a newspaper headline from 1940 reporting the surrender of France to the Nazis.

Picking up on the same theme, Farage tweeted: “A giant deceit has been voted for today. Macron will be Juncker’s puppet.”

The former Ukip leader was predicting that Le Pen would come back stronger in five years and eventually win the presidency thanks to a backlash over Macron’s pro-globalisation and pro-EU policies.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...esidential-win

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It has been reported in France that Le Pen was in third place as more "spoiled votes" were cast than votes for her.

As their system is not "a X in a box on a standard voting sheet" but "place the sheet of the person/party you want to vote for in the box, discarding all the others" how could there be spoiled votes?

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Leave.EU is not xenophobic. Everyone who wants controlled borders is not xenophobic.

Saying Merkel won French Election, is making a statement about the dire policies she has inflicted on the poor German citizens and that Macrons open door policy, similar to Hollande's will just be one of the same. This is not xenophobia.

I really don't get what this fascination with the left is, of allowing uncontrolled migration.

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In the second round there are only 2 candidates. Anything else placed in the ballot box is a spoiled vote and does not count although they are recorded.

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I didn't say immigration did I? I was referring to the 'France rolled over as they did in 1940' meme they and papa_smurf have been spreading. France lost over 350,000 men in the invasion of France alone. A reminder of their army stayed in Lille during the evacuation to help the allied forces reach and leave Dunkirk helped much of the British army to get back.

The French didn't 'roll over' they suffered heavy casualties. Even then they formed the resistance.

So to mock them for that simply because they didn't vote the way you wanted, especially when it's a party who were formed in part of Vichy collaborators, is rather poor taste and shows a history learned from films more than anything else.

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So what has Xenophobia got to do with that ? What is xenophobic about those memes?

Distasteful, disrespectful yes, xenophobic no.

And I have already said I did not care who won, so leave the 'vote the way I wanted' out of it, especially where I am concerned. If anything, and as already stated, Macron winning points to a hard Brexit, which I do want.

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I think it falls under prejudice against another nationality but I am not too hung up on the word itself. Just the principle.

Wasn't directed at you.

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:tu: Millions more people voted for Le Pen (and a far more extreme party) in France than UKIP here and yet they're not bonkers and we are according to some. This mindset is truly bizarre. :nutter:

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:shocked:

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Yeah yesterday only 10.5m people in France voted for what he'd call a right wing nutter - that's only 6m more than ever voted for rabid swivel eyed UKIP but there's no problem in France or the EU. It's not happening. It's all good. It's far worse in the UK where UKIP have imploded... Another bizarre mindset. :spin:

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Beethoven's ode to joy ? Always thought it was a nice little ditty regardless of your views, maybe he was making a point. (Good enough for the Eurovision song contest opening, where doubtless we're already penciled in for 'nul points' ! :rolleyes:)

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i like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iobhT4os5D8 :)

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No different to the last 20 years or so then, where we have normally resided in last few spots. Besides, it's nothing to do with talent, more so who thy Neighbour is, you of all people should know that.

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Don't know Mick, gave up on it when Bardo didn't win in 1982, it was a travesty.... https://youtu.be/zk_EG-fBmms

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Eurovision, never to be taken seriously, only thing remotely entertaining about it, is the scoring oh and the days when the late Sir Terry Wogan, narrated it. Rest of Europe takes it seriously, while the English laugh at it.

Anyway, should be worth watching this year, according to Juncker, with English language being in such a decline, it will be just as surprising to see the amount of song entries, sang in English, proving that drunken old fool is wrong.

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It would be the supreme irony if the French entry was sung in English. :D

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Personally I'm glad macron won best result by a country mile and i hope merkel wins in germany those will be the best two results for brexit i can possibly think of.

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After a bit of research, Mr Drunken Juncker (has a ring to this haha), is so desperately wrong.

Just take a look here:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rs_by_language

47% of Eurovision winners, are songs sang with the use of or part of the English Language and this is since it's inception. There were a number of years where a Country was forced to use it's own Language.

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99% of eurovision songs are rubbish ;)

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Still a while until the German election but Merkel seems to be in a strong position.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...state-election

In an area largely dominated by her closest rivals, the Social Democrats, she has taken seats off them! Bizarre after 12 years in Government.