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rssfed23 06-06-2017 20:07

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Hi all!

Anyone know where I can get updates on an area that is definitely being cabled and already in the works?

I'm just asking as we've had Virgin installing as part of the rural rollout here in Oakley (Hampshire) and the civil works seem to be complete now and wondering when I'll be able to order (also happy to be an early adopter as well and pay for the privilege!).
I know our reference number is NBU 48883 for the area and the last update we had was at the beginning of April when I was told the works should be finished that week and activation should follow.
We've got what I think are toby boxes in front of every house in our road as well as a VM cab now next to a BT one at the end of the street.

Many thanks in advance!
Rob

Onramp 07-06-2017 20:39

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General network construction works seem to be on a pause in our area (East Midlands). I've noticed a few planned installs, tee-unblockings, duct-layings (via roadworks.org) that have passed their planned dates and then been rescheduled - 3 or 4 times in some cases, even though they are marked as "Granted". Especially over the last 2 months. I guess things are still being sorted out in terms of the next wave of expansion.

denphone 07-07-2017 09:56

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Virgin Media to upgrade 53,000 premises in Lancashire.

https://www.telecompaper.com/news/vi...shire--1202975

Pierre 07-07-2017 16:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35906521)
Virgin Media to upgrade 53,000 premises in Lancashire.

https://www.telecompaper.com/news/vi...shire--1202975

Don't think that is Lightning related. I think it's just an upgrade of the old Smallworld Network.

Gavin-D 08-08-2017 11:25

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Project Lightning is 571,000 customers short of this years 800,000 target

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/0...media_results/

Ignitionnet 13-08-2017 17:49

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Not sure about that checker.

Quote:

Is cable on the table? No, not yet anyway…

Tell me more… We’d love to be able to cable your area but you’re not in our next round of expansion plans. We are looking for future areas to cable though and yours could be one.
Work is in progress.

---------- Post added at 17:49 ---------- Previous post was at 17:48 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by weesteev (Post 35900546)
That isn't correct, we are actively building in huge areas of block paving (Dunfermline), paving slabs (Newcastle) and red tarmac all over the country. What stops us digging in an area is wayleave in private areas, if we don't have permission to dig from the landowners then we wont place micro duct in private driveways (for example).

The amount of effort VM seem willing to spend reaching a few properties is crazy. Seeing them spending most of a week to reach 4 properties through block paving was a bit mad. He says knowing they'll have to go through a few metres of block paving and lift some slabs to reach him.

weesteev 13-08-2017 18:57

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We aim to please Igni ;)

Ignitionnet 13-08-2017 22:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by weesteev (Post 35912311)
We aim to please Igni ;)

Get the 24/4 DOCSIS 3.0 build to here, followed by the 3.1 build and I'll be happy. I'm aware of what you guys have in mind for both and my/my employer's wallet is open ;)

weesteev 15-08-2017 12:30

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Im just waiting for the build to start in my home town as well! Patience is a virtue... we have some really impressive long term plans for DOCSIS and TV services, will be good to finally have a "decent" connection again.

Onramp 18-08-2017 00:37

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Waiting on #58384. Seems to have been at fibre design check for a few months now. Still optimistic however, it's a big project.

weesteev 18-08-2017 22:39

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They are all big projects ;)

Onramp 19-08-2017 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by weesteev (Post 35913232)
They are all big projects ;)

Indeed, and no doubt there are at least 30 or 40 such sized projects going on at any one time in some phase or other.

Berbatov 04-10-2017 14:48

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http://www.virginmedia.com/corporate...ancashire.html


Will this include the Blackburn area?

nodrogd 08-10-2017 17:10

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Something I thought I would never see!

The entire Isle of Thanet is currently plastered with permits for VM expansion. Which Headend is this area going to be attached too? Its a long way from Ashford or any of the South London ones.

The Brighton buildout appears to have reached Newhaven now.

spiderplant 08-10-2017 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35919478)
The entire Isle of Thanet is currently plastered with permits for VM expansion. Which Headend is this area going to be attached too? Its a long way from Ashford or any of the South London ones.

It's only about 30 miles from Ashford. There are longer runs already in use, such as Glasgow to Ayr, and Nottingham to Lincoln.

The other possibility is Basildon, as that already serves the North Kent coast.

General Maximus 13-10-2017 22:55

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yup, and my connection to Nottingham is mint

Onramp 15-10-2017 11:33

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I wonder how closely the postcode search actually follows the current plans.

Gavin-D 02-11-2017 15:20

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Virgin's Project Lightning's very, very frightening: ISP will not hit connection target

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/1...get_this_year/

Onramp 11-11-2017 17:35

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The postcode checker no longer shows the number of registrations.

Airwaves 29-11-2017 12:02

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Well my hopes were dashed this week. After seeing for months that my community was in their expansion plan, and that it was apparently green on the system checker within my local store with a 6-18 month timescale, the postcode checker came back at the end of last week saying “Sorry, we can’t reach you at the moment”.

Unfortunately, it’s back to Sky for me.

I assume the registrations count has gone because all the areas have been decided?

Onramp 29-11-2017 18:24

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Quite possibly. I'm not getting my hopes up any more. These are big projects and some might not happen for years yet, even if they do at all.

I'll stick with my 0.7 / 4Mb for now. But might just move house and leave this area if it says this slow for the next 2 years.

Onramp 05-12-2017 22:49

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It appears to be the case that the expansion areas have now all been decided and the information walls have now come up - at least until the end of 2019. I'm just observing, but that's the pattern of activity that I'm seeing. There probably won't be anything official about that, I'd imagine, for sensitivity and competitiveness reasons.

Airwaves 08-12-2017 14:19

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Indeed, every area that isn’t currently served brings up the same message. The downside being that no one can find out IF Virgin are coming their way anymore so it’s just a case of wait and look out your window or roadworks.org.

I’m not sure how to digest my result before the barriers went up. “Sorry, we cant reach you at the moment” implies many different things, but then is that the point as I don’t think they would commit to something like “No, never”.

Im still hopeful, my area was in the plan so perhaps a few issues have surfaced that have stallled the project, it could reopen and get resolved before the end of 2019 or beyond.

Gavin-D 11-06-2018 11:45

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Virgin Media UK Sue Durham Council Over Fibre Optic Rollout Costs

Quote:

Cable broadband ISP Virgin Media has taken the unusual decision to sue Durham County Council (England) in the hope that doing so will enable them to lay new fibre optic cable along grass verges and without having to pay “hefty” fees per metre. The case will test the recently revised Electronic Communications Code (ECC).

At present Virgin Media are deep into their £3bn Project Lightning expansion, which is working to extend their Hybrid Fibre Coax (HFC) and Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) based EuroDOCSIS ultrafast broadband and TV network to an additional 4 million premises by around the end of 2019 (possibly 2020). Once completed it should extend their UK coverage to roughly 60% of premises (1.2 million premises have already been reached).
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...out-costs.html

Onramp 11-06-2018 17:18

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Not entirely sure what they mean by "deep into" their £3bn expansion.

Into budget, maybe.

Pierre 12-06-2018 12:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Onramp (Post 35950150)
Not entirely sure what they mean by "deep into" their £3bn expansion.

Into budget, maybe.

Deep into the project, it's been running two years now.

MrIca 13-06-2018 17:39

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35950270)
Deep into the project, it's been running two years now.

Yes and they’ve not really achieved a great deal. I wouldn’t describe them being deep into it at all.

Onramp 13-06-2018 22:40

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Progress in terms of time: Jun 2015 - Jun 2018 = 3/4 of the way to Jun 2019 75%
Currently at 1.25 million extra homes passed out of 4 million total = deployment is ~30% complete.

Pierre 14-06-2018 12:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrIca (Post 35950418)
Yes and they’ve not really achieved a great deal. I wouldn’t describe them being deep into it at all.

3 years into a 5 year project.

1.2 million homes connected

So they only achieved 50% of where they thought they would be, but the problems last year were well documented.

110,000 in Q1 this year. They need to increase that considerably to get anywhere near their 5 year target.

However, I would wager that they number of homes so far eclipses all the other Alt providers combined and BT together.

weesteev 15-06-2018 10:58

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I don't believe this is being referred to as a 5 year project now, this hasn't been referenced for some time.

Pierre 15-06-2018 13:13

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I know, I didn't mean 5 years and then finish. It will carry on. potentially indefinitely as long as the numbers continue to stack up.

I mean it was a 5 year initial period to hit 4million.

Gavin-D 24-08-2018 15:59

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Virgin Media has emerged victorious in a landmark legal battle over a “ransom” demand from a council that it claimed was unlawfully blocking the installation of ultrafast broadband for thousands of homes.

Durham County Council has agreed to allow the operator to install cables along grass verges for a nominal fee of just £1. The local authority had previously demanded “hefty” fees per metre, which Virgin Media said made it impossible to invest in expanding its network coverage.

Virgin Media, owned by the US-listed giant Liberty Global, took the case to court in what was due to be the first test of the recently reformed Electronic Communications Code. The Government last year changed the law on land access rights for telecoms operators in an attempt to speed up the rollout of ultrafast broadband and mobile coverage.

Durham County Council has backed down before the case came to tribunal, agreeing access to grass verges at virtually no charge across the county. Virgin Media has also agreed to connect more homes than it originally planned.

Tom Mockridge, Virgin Media’s chief executive, said the outcome of the dispute would set a “much-needed precedent” and urged other landowners to follow the example.

Durham County Council, which previously criticised Virgin Media for “poor performance” including disruption caused by streetworks, said the row had allowed it “to test and understand the implications of the new code”.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...anning-battle/

techguy 04-12-2018 13:04

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is Milton Keynes Council next for legal action?

City Fibre are installing FTTP from scratch in all of MK right now, on behalf of Vodafone Gigafast. If VM commit to a new build now, much of 250k+ homes will get more choice and TV too. Broadband speeds in MK are still on average very poor for superfast definition, as the phone lines are still aluminium pairs to each property so VDSL is shiite. (Thanks BT)

Onramp 04-12-2018 23:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by techguy
is Milton Keynes Council next for legal action?

I just moved here, actually. The broadband where I lived before was 4Mbit and I don't think VM were able to deploy lightning where I was before, despite the high demand, any time soon.

Now that CityFibre/Voda are laying tubes down over here, I can't see VM ever being able to justify expanding at this location. They'll probably keep the business lines going in the centre but the old BT TV network will never be replaced or upgraded. There won't be any residential networks being built in MK by VM either since the addition of a TV service won't be enough to persuade people to take their broadband service over Vodafone and there won't be enough demand, either.

If Vodafone ever do buy VM's network however, the CityFibre network might well be used to deliver a triple-play service at that point in time.

Edit: Vodafone are "Making use" of CityFibre's network. Technically VM could also do this in Milton Keynes once the exclusivity period expires between Vodafone and CityFibre.. but they might just have a bad taste in their mouth from what happened last time with BT!

Onramp 10-12-2018 00:41

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OK, well, this is totally confusing: https://www.totaljobs.com/job/reside...ia-job83444580

General Maximus 10-12-2018 01:51

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Time waters. Hopefully it will be taken down and they'll be charged for it.


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