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Thanks to some culling of trees behind my house, I now have Freesat too. You should be able to add H&C manually as I have (11568V, 22000 SR 5/6 FEC).

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I mean, it's been 5 years. I imagine anyone who desperately wanted it has either left for Sky or uses Now TV in addition to a Virgin subscription.

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It's not just about attracting new customers it's also about retaining the ones they have especially in a really competitive market.

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Oh I'm not saying Virgin shouldn't be actively pursuing it; I'm just speaking from a consumer perspective.

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Yes, Virgin should be seeking a solution. But having given away their content, they have nothing to bargain with.

Hopefully, that will start to change soon.

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I think it's pretty clear that right now, Sky Atlantic has been priced to be unviable for any provider - not just VM - to acquire it. TalkTalk, BT and Eir in Ireland don't have it. In fact, the latter two don't even have the Sky basic channels.

So given the pricing structure of Sky Atlantic, what should VM do? I guess VM's options which are not mutually exclusive include:

- Sit tight and accept that the lack of the channel weakens the offering and hope that HBO Online and other services come to the UK. I can see that in the future, HBO Online could come here especially now that there are 6.5m subscribers spread across the BT, TalkTalk and VM platforms who cannot access HBO's content. Plus many more potential access points via Smart TVs, PlayStations, Rokus, tablets etc. When will the tipping point occur?
- Pay Sky's asking price but lose money on every customer and risk the other Sky channels being raised in price to Atlantic levels.
- Doing something like the BT-AMC deal with a US studio which potentially weakens Atlantic in the future by removing some of its content and providing a bargaining tool with Sky apart from money and distribution.
- Ensuring that on-demand services like Netflix and Amazon Prime are available so viewers can see some Atlantic content at a later date. With Netflix in place since 2013, VM is halfway there.

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HBO Go can't launch in the UK until at least 2020; Sky have exclusive rights to HBO content until then. And I'd be very surprised if Sky don't renew it before then.

VM have had ample opportunity to get a Premium US cable network; now the big ones are gone. AMC to BT and Showtime only recently to Sky. Starz is the only major premium one left.

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But although also owned by John Malone it doesn't have a great deal of original programming and little than anyone in the UK would consider a must-have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...dcast_by_Starz

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Agreed; the substantial ones are no longer available.

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I was thinking of that kind of timescale, it will be interesting to see if Sky and HBO renew their deal.

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One suspects they will given Sky's ability to flash their big wads.

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In its favour, LGI owns 50% of HBO Netherlands.

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l still think another new deal will be reached between Sky and HBO Andrew thus locking other providers out

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Same here.

Just noticed that LFC TV is free to all customers until 6am Tuesday.

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Well l better take advantage of that then.

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No-one wants to watch that rubbish, even for free! hahaha :-)

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That obviously depends on ones opinion....;)

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All of the football TV channels are pretty naff...I imagine they are all near enough the same.

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I don't know, it's a pretty good comedy show :D

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I would have thought that it would be in HBO's interests to offer Sky an exclusive deal for first run rights, leaving other platforms to have access after the first runs are completed. This is what happened to AMC's 'Fear The Walking Dead'.

With this sort of deal in place for Sky, HBO could still set up their own web site for this country and add their library of programmes that have already completed their first showings.

Even if the exclusivity period lasted a whole year, it would be a lot better than now.

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maybe sales of DVD and boxsets through amazon/apple for non sky subscribers (through Sky or NowTv) are generating enough for them not to bother. I don't know the margins but maybe better than streaming perhaps?

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From what l hear they make a fair sum from sales of DVD's and boxsets.

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When they finally materialise. I don't understand why HBO series take almost twelve months to turn up on disc but are available as HD digital downloads (iTunes, Amazon and Google) as soon as a show finishes a season on Sky Atlantic.

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They probably turn a better profit from downloads than discs

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Well that's a question they need to answer as sell through movies are released much quicker onto the sell through market and quite a few series from ITV and the BBC are generally released pretty much after they have finished.

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Surprising as downloads are pretty expensive in my book.

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What I don't like about digital downloads of box sets is that they don't seem to drop in price. The DVD box set price drops as they get older. And of course, for valid reasons, you can't buy a second hand copy of a digital download. Often, second hand DVD box sets are an absolute bargain.

When DVDs eventually disappear, building a video library will become very expensive.

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We bought GOT 5 for under £7 second hand on a auction site and its near enough brand new.

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Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Virgin Media UK testing new broadcasting streams.

Media Boy Sources has told us today:

No new channels are testing on them yet but new stream are testing.

But we can confirmed that BBC Red Button stream are ready for broadcast as the never removed last summer.

©copyright 2016 Media Boy 2006 - 2016. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

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Not sure about that. On Amazon, GoT season 5 is today £22.99 as an HD download, but £33 on Blu-Ray and £30 on DVD. Older seasons are cheaper as downloads too (season 1 is £14.99 in HD now).

But I agree about secondhand box sets being the best value.

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I picked up the second season of Nikita (2011 -2014 series) for £2.69 with free postage.

I rip my DVDs so not fussed at the box condition provided the discs play.

I've been buying CDs and DVDs for many, many years with just one or two bad discs turning up, which are returnable. I tend to use Zoverstocks via Amazon Market place, who are the same company as Music Magpie online and estocks on Ebay. Even though they are the same company, prices can differ between them.

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Yep, prices do vary and bargains come along. I've got into the habit of checking the prices of all format options. The first 22 episode season of Nikita (a month or so ago) was £4.99 in HD digital download from Amazon, so grabbed that, but the second season in HD is £19.99; way too much IMHO.

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I think it would be hard to have a stand-alone HBO streaming service selling year-old content that has already been on pay TV. This type of service could work as a bundled channel like Fox but would not support a stand-alone service.

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Can I ask can that new streams be used for new additional tuners

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More people are now streaming as opposed to buying DVD's.

In the short term you might be able to get a bargain, but as you say it will take things more difficult in the long term.

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201605074...#axzz48B4le1hv

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Due to circumstances beyond our control the next thread will launch in late December and will be called "Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)".

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I don't get why that is a bad thing

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What exactly does this mean? Surely you will have a new thread round about that time anyway, as another new year will be on the horizon, also what do you mean by "circumstances beyond our control"? :confused:

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Maybe there won't be enough really happening at virgin media that needs mentioned

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I like streaming services; I guess I'm one of the people behind their growth :) using Amazon, Netflix and Now TV, and having a minimal pay TV service (M+).

The main downside is that a particular TV series is available on their service for a limited time. Longevity wise, Netflix, followed by Amazon are the best; Now TV is terrible, having box sets, in most cases, for a very limited time.

To be fair, there are very few TV shows that I want to add as a permanent fixture to my library; My DVD purchases have dropped drastically since Netflix launched in early 2012. Still, for the odd few that I do buy, I still think the 'to own' digital streaming prices are too high, and should decrease over time.

I have a feeling that at one time, the prices were set by the content rights holder for digital downloads, and they are the same price across all vendors. That is not the case with physical DVDs. I'm not sure if that was the case, and if it was, does it apply now?

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That would be illegal; since 1964 retailers are free to sell at a price they see fit.

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No new streams in my area yet, still on the 48 and its been that way since the last upgrade just before the London Olympics in 2012. But if these upgrades are nationwide, then yes, that is a very significant upgrade.

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Do you know what the further 10 streams would equate to in terms of the number of channels, or apps, Horizon?

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Several new HD channels can be fitted onto one stream if using the newer compression method, but I'm guessing most of this will be used for the broadband speed upgrades.

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According to my records the last upgrade to 48 transport streams was not in 2012 as I stated earlier but in July 2010. So, if this upgrade is true, it will be the first major new network capacity boost in nearly six years.

In terms of channels:

Up to July 2010 there was 36 transport streams carrying 316 services (mostly tv channels) in my area. There has only been 2 upload channels/streams for as long as I can remember.

In July 2010 the network was upgraded to 48 transport streams carrying 342 services at that time.

By the time of the LOndon Olympics in 2012, the number of services increased to 406 and in March 2015 the number of services increased to 455.

Today, the number of services on my standard box is 439 in my area (East London). The number of services can vary between area and stb used.

As well as tv channels, services can include VOD (video on demand) streams, EPG data etc.

Of the 48 transport streams in my area, 8 of them are for downloads and 2 are for uploads, according to my router.

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Maybe this is needed for the software upgrade

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.... this is capacity VM have added for more broadband upgrades and/or channel additions.

THe software would only use a fraction of one stream.

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must be more to this, slightly mysterious post

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Maybe the new forum is coming when the new TiVo launches, I think further broadband speed upgrades not needed the now, we need more channels

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Virgin Media have said that they will be putting more effort into the TV side of things this year, but although there are still some gaps in our channel selection, I think the concentration will be on VOD rather than TV channels. However, I think VM viewers would prefer a mixture of the two in some abundance this year!

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I totally Agree it's nice to have a mixture and on the old TiVo tv channels are better than VOD

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People are speculating on this but so what?
Media Boy brings us information but how it's brought doesn't really matter does it?
This thread we are in now could run forever as long as the information in it is changing. Ultimately it's just a thread title or am I missing something???

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I think he may be saying that there won't be anything new of note coming this year, that is how I interpreted it.

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Really there was no reason for a part 2 thread. The original one could have continued. Take out the year and the thread could just keep running.

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I totally agree I think same also

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Some official but thin news

http://buff.ly/1rPCmbA

Virgin Media has today confirmed that it will be launching a 4K set-top box later this year with an upgraded box to replace its current TiVO box, which it has been using since 2011.

Details are thin on the ground so there is no word yet on whether the box will be UHD Premium certified, whether it will be HDR compatible, or whether it will have a more basic feature set of just a UHD resolution.

It is also not yet clear how Virgin plans on distributing content to the device, whether it will be an internet-based solution, or whether UHD channels will broadcast alongside HD and SD channels and be delivered over cable.

We have contacted Virgin Media to ask it for clarification on both these points, and will update this article when it responds.

As the operator of a fibre network which offers speeds of up to 200Mbps, Virgin's network meets current bandwidth requirements for delivering 4K streams over the internet. Netflix currently recommends at least 25mbps for its UHD content.

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Alas not, just the site administrators requesting he doesn't open any more new "coming soon" threads this year.

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Also from what hi fi

10th May 2016
image: http://images.cdn.whathifi.com/sites...?itok=dPj9O1Iq


The cable TV company says it will update its ageing TiVO HD set-top box this year, and is developing a 4K version to take on Sky Q.
The recent launch of Sky Q has left the cable TV operator Virgin Media trailing in its wake.

Given that it was 2011 when we first reviewed the original Virgin TiVO box, many would argue that an upgrade is long overdue.

Now Virgin Media has confirmed a 4K set-top box is in development and due for release in 2016. A spokesman told What Hi-Fi?: “There will be a new set-top box coming later this year, and it will support Ultra High Definition video.

"Before that we will be updating the existing TiVO set-top box to make its menus slicker and more picture-based.”

It is also believed Virgin is working on an upgrade to its existing series link feature that will include on-demand programmes from Netflix and other sources

That makes the TiVO box, with its three tuners and standard high definition, look rather miserly in comparison. The new Virgin 4K box is expected to offer a similar ability to Sky Q, allowing users to start watching a programme on a TV in one room, and then continue watching on a smartphone or tablet elsewhere.

Sadly no estimate


Read more at http://www.whathifi.com/news/virgin-...AgWLxorstb0.99

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Sadly MediaBoys coming soon thread has suffered for well over a year cos bog all of any real note has come to virgin to virgin tv in a long time

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After what has been announced I thought for a laugh I'll ask Virgin media and got three responses

1. There is no plans for upgrade to our fantastic TiVo and what I must be thinking about is software and is still superior to sky Q

2. No new TiVo and shouldn't listen to hype

3. There is a new TiVo but not till 2018 as they are still at a design stage and don't know about any features till new year

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Was that a shop? Online? Their press office?

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It was the sales dept each time

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1. There is no plans for upgrade to our fantastic TiVo and what I must be thinking about is software and is still superior to sky Q - biggest load of bs ever a new box is coming summer/autumn this year.

2. No new TiVo and shouldn't listen to hype - just like you shouldn't listen to vm sales reps.

3. There is a new TiVo but not till 2018 as they are still at a design stage and don't know about any features till new year - again load of bs

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Agreed, and the ungrammatical phrase 'there is no plans' should shoot up considerable warning signs!

There will be a new box this year, the only question seems to be whether it will be a Tivo or Horizon box. I had assumed it would be a Tivo because the contract had been extended, but of course we don't know the nature of that contract and whether it just related to the continued maintenance of existing boxes provided by Virgin Media.

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Indeed that is the vexed question? on what will be coming and may the speculation begin.:Yes::no:

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We thought it was tivo too, info we have is there will be 2 boxes launched, no further info yet can be disclosed.

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I might be wrong but I think one won't have 4K and one will. I assume different boxes have different amounts of tuners and 4K box have more storage

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Yet again loads of third parties released info today still nothing official from virgin,

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Virgin will announce it soon when it is closer to launch :)

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I think from what it says it launches near end this year they need to be careful with the price if that true, and also are they going to be price increases to have service like sky

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About time. Time for new streamed services and TV/radio channels.

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Most of the reports have come from the Liberty Global results so it doesn't get more official than that. In some instances the media have contacted VM for additional information; again official.
http://www.libertyglobal.com/ir-pres...-webcasts.html

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Cant see where in the link

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Sorry, this is the first link.
Page 4 " Of note, Virgin Media is preparing for the launch of a new set-top box."

And this is the second.
Page 2 "Enhancing our TV platform in the U.K.:
* Added new on-demand programming in Q1
* Working on further improvements to user-interface in the second half of 2016
* Preparing to launch new set-top box platform"

Note that one release says "set-top box" and the other says "set-top box platform". Is "platform" a mistake?

When considering the Tivo v Horizon argument, I think it's important to consider two things. Firstly, the UK is LGI's largest market. Secondly, there are 3m Tivos installed by VM v 2m Horizon. So Tivo is currently LGI's most popular platform.

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Been waiting for that webcast,looks like they've just uploaded it. Thanks for highlighting it.

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That's the million dollar question, which, I think Liberty/VM has answered at the end of the webcast. EVERYONE should listen to it. I'll state the facts, then give my opinion.

Facts:

Tom Mockbridge, VM boss says this, "we are committed to the 2nd half of this year to deploy EOS in the United Kingdom. We'll put some tivo software on it, that'll give us a lot more functionality for our customers."

"We're very confident that with the tv launch/relaunch that we have coming through this year, that we'll remain very competitive with Sky."

"So far we've seen very little impact from the Sky Q which is of course a very expensive decoder and we're very focussed on improving the offer we have there and EOS is going to be a big part of that."

And to finish the webcast, another Liberty exec says, "...this new box is going to be a 4k box, a pretty high powered box that will get a refreshed tivo UI on it later this year. And then in following years our goal is to get Horizon across all of Europe and the EOS box, this new 4k box is going to be the engine for next generation for video for Liberty."


Opinion:

Mike Fries said at the beginning of the webcast that EOS is a project name for a cloud based set top box. At the end of the webcast, Tom Mockbridge states that SkyQ is a expensive decoder.

VM will NOT launch a new physical 4k box, it'll be cloud based!!.

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I haven't yet heard the video, but from what you report it sounds as though the new box will be an updated Tivo, and the box after that will be a Horizon box.

I hope I am right about this because it sounds to me that the Horizon box does not function very well, is slower than the current Tivo and needs a lot more work on it.

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He says sky q is a expensive decoder that is will interesting when he sets new TiVo price

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Will the new streams mean we finally get our HD Sky Movies On Demand back to what it was and should be?

It's been something like 6 months that service has been dwindled away and the forum just say it is temporary due to testing and the phone lines just go oooh I've not heard of that before.
No one ever offering a fix date or anything though and the £2.50 rise is coming in for this tremendous offering...

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Sadly the sky sports and movies increase we don't have a choice as sky put up the prices but to lock away the 4K movies and sports and bt lock away by sport UHD. It will be a 4K box with customers having to pay £8.99 a month for Netflix UHD, £79 for Amazon prime UHD but what customers pay nearly £80 - £120 a month for has all upcoming sky 4K unavailable

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As I pointed out to the woman on the phone I totally understand the £2.50 rise if I was getting the same service as Sky.
If I had Sky I could get all of their films in HD like Virgin had 6 months ago.
Now due to Virgin's infrastructure we get punished by having a very limited choice of HD films available through on demand through no fault of the customers.

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Maybe this is what the increased streams are forv

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No, but the new VOD servers might.

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Any info on the new VOD streams like dates and what they mean

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Many thanks for presenting this information on the new set top box and giving your opinion.
A further question comes to mind - will EOS have Tivo or Horizon software on it outside the UK?
You could be right on the box being cloud-based. I note that the press releases talk of "set-top box" not "PVR" though I don't know what terminology they have used in the past.

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Don't worry about Horizon, that's just the same generation as the current Tivo. LGI are talking about their new generation 4K box.
The new box has a working title of EOS.
It will have Tivo software on it in the UK.
We don't know what software it will have outside the UK.
The new EOS box will be rolled out globally as LGI's next generation offering.
Sounds very positive to me. :)

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The new streams are still testing off the EPG.

With the two shopping channels from QVC.

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We have the new TiVo boxes prices info.

We also have 100% confirmed info on what you can do (apps and so on) with the new TiVo boxes.

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When will you be able to tell us what it is, MB?

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We are trying to get two out of the three DNP orders removed.

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I've removed the DNP orders, it's ok, you can tell everyone now, MB :-) :-)
lol

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Just be a bit more patient UC.

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Most of the info is already out there now anyway. It won't be long before they update our current Tivo and then bring out the new one.

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/05/vir...o-outdo-sky-q/

The company then released an entire new sentence of words about it to What HiFi, explaining: "There will be a new set-top box coming later this year, and it will support Ultra High Definition video. Before that we will be updating the existing TiVO set-top box to make its menus slicker and more picture-based." [Virgin via What HiFi]

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1375...-take-on-sky-q

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Some information may have appeared online but our Virgin Media Sources have still to lift the DNP orders.

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I gave the exact quote from Tom Mockbridge, nothing was left out, then gave my opinion.

EOS, as they're currently calling it, is cloud based. As someone over on the DS forums pointed out, of course there still needs to be some form of box to link your tv to VM services. But it will not be a SkyQ type box, a large box, but rather something like the Sky mini, a bit like the analogue cable boxes of old. I reckon everything will be stored in the cloud, not just recordings, but the EPG, encryption (no need for a smart card or smart card slot) meta data etc.

VM has made clear the interface will be tivo for the time being, but they will migrate the UK over to the Horizon interface at some point. What is not clear is what new hardware, if any, we will get.

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I thought that was a key phrase and something which was left out of the official transcript of the webcast which is why I listened carefully to it (several times!!) and wrote exactly what was said here.

The fact he emphasises that Sky's new box is expensive is telling us that VM are not going down that road. As I just said to Old Boy, VM may launch some sort of new mini box, but it will be fed from the cloud. That is a key difference between how Sky and VM are launching new services.

Sky must rely more on equipment to feed customers with services, satellite is essentially one-way. Cable is not. That's the key.

Media Boy is saying that VM are upgrading their network capacity and everything in time will be fed from the cloud thus negating the need for expensive Sky type boxes on cable. I think VM could not not have been clearer.

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There's another bit of key info, from the person who knows!

The jigsaw pieces are coming together.

As I've stated before, VM may rebrand their VOD services to Liberty's own streaming service called MyPrime.

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It will be Horizon and they've already said what it will be called, assuming its the same thing.

On the presentation slide there is mention of Horizon Lite, a cloud based service. I beleive EOS and Horizon Lite, as far as outside the UK goes, are one and the same thing. Perhaps here they'll call EOS Tivo Lite??

EOS is just an internal name they are using to describe their cloud based, 4k, next gen services. It is not a brand name we'll ever see.



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[/COLOR]I think they were very clear, but to repeat. Horizon is the user interface that Liberty use for their current and future services outside the UK.

EOS is an internal name they use for their cloud based, 4k, next gen services. I believe, don't know for sure, that this is based on their RDK software specs that we've all spoken about before.

Everything, including the UK eventually, will use the Horizon interface.

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Thank you. Just in time for a certain cloud based service to launch...:)

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It good you have the info but can you share prices With us so we know what to expect if not are we looking are prices like when TiVo launched £199

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The price list is still under an DNP order.

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When will that be lifted to make sure I have enough to cover box cost

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I doubt that it will be lifted before launch as it will be competitor sensitive information.

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BT may launch their own entertainment channel to rival Sky 1.

If this happens, it will be interesting to see whether we will have access to the new channel, and whether it will be wittheld from Sky until an agreement is reached with them to carry the missing Sky channels.

http://www.a516digital.com/2016/05/s...in-1-bt-1.html

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It's a true point but sky are so greedy I couldn't see them lower the price, but I was told one box per account at start I was going to replace box TiVo with TiVo 4k

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I read this

" It is not known when the new box might be launched - simply that it will happen in this coming financial year. "

Does that not mean they would have till March 31st

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How will we all survive , wonder if it will be as big a success as the AMC channel.

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Well, yes, but you already know that they have said they will launch it before Christmas if possible.

You will not be able to pin down a date at this stage because it is still being tested. Any problems will delay the launch and so they are not going to commit themselves at this stage.

You will just have to wait for now, I'm afraid.

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It will probably be like Virgin 1 was. It wasn't a bad channel as channels go.

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So run of the mill !!! Isn't the EPG already littered with tons of these like I say I wont lose any sleep if I don't get access to it.

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Maybe BT will use AMC slots for this rumour BT 1 Channel.

After all in 2007 or 2008 Virgin Media use FTN Channel slots for Virgin1.

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l doubt we would get access as we still have not got access to AMC.

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Note to self, buy more shares in ITV before it's too late. Entertainment One as well....

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I think we would. I would imagine that BT would want such a channel to generate some reasonable revenue, as VM did for Virgin 1.

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Run of the mill, perhaps, but as long as there are one or two dramas to record every week, worth having, like Sky 1.