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Seems like production has at least started - Interesting bit at the end "Only on Netflix".
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the Netflix thing was confirmed months ago.
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http://www.startrek.com/article/disc...-logo-revealed
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The show is premiering on CBS All-Access in the USA and Netflix in the U.K. Which studio you see on the trailer depends on which localised trailer you have got hold of. The one Den linked to on Facebook is uk-localised. Most of the stuff being re-uploaded all over YouTube originates in the US.
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It is not looking good. This is synonymous with VM's speed upgrades; don't advertise something which you know you are not going to deliver. This entire thing is starting to become a bit of an anti-climax and I hope somebody higher up is going to do an investigation to find out what is going on because all of this is damaging the franchises reputation and frustrating fans all around the world. Hopefully putting it back a second time will give them the necessary kick up the ass to get it sorted ready for the fall release schedule with all other prime time series.
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It'll arrive when it arrives.
So far from what I know about it, I cannot say I'm exactly over excited anyway, so I guess we'll just wait, and see what we get. |
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At least it is in production now. There was a small teaser video released a few weeks back.
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That's a great casting. I still have high hopes that it will be good when it eventually arrives.
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i hope this is good with all the news i have been hearing its not looking great, apparently there is a lot of infighting, script changing and the fans are not liking the look of the ship.
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I don't mind the look of the ship. Its not going to prevent me enjoying it.
As long as the stories are good and the acting is alright then that will be fine with me. |
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The teaser video they realeased a few weeks back implies that the ship design may have evolved a bit.
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I was inclined to think that that wire frame model that was shown is another ship entirely as an sure the Discovery as shown in some storyboards or artwork.
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your right the ship they released is the second ship, they did say that it may look different by the time of release
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Is there a picture of the new finalised ship yet ?
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where can u find a pic of the ship?
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This was released last month as it started production
This was the original reveal trailer with the ship |
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that was good and hit the right tone. Hopefully they will keep doing little things like that because with all the delays they have had they need to keep the audience enthused and engaged.
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I liked the original concept of the ship. The newer design isn't as edgy in my opinion.
It looks a lot like other types of starfleet ship, such as the Akira. |
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You can see the discovery design in the same video. That's how.
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Well out there in the LaLa Land opinion is divided. It's either the Discovery or the USS Shenzou.
Apparently the crew for this USS Shenzou has been announced and Michelle Yeoh is the captain. Speculation is that the USS Shenzou will meet it's demise and transfer to the Discovery. All pure fanboy speculation |
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Looks OK but too modern for 10 years before Kirk.
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That video states "Not Available"
This one works for me ; The series has also been increased from 13 Episodes to 15 Episodes . |
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That was edited very different to the US version of the trailer.
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I have said many a time before that I would love to see a new series set after Voyager on a ship like the Relativity which can travel through time and the modern look they are showing off here is what would suit a series set in the future. More "realistic and believable" as I like to say. Anyways, I pulled these off the Star Trek website which I got an email from this morning. |
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That UK Netflix trailer was very different to the US CBS one. Seemed faster paced and mostly the same footage but edited very differently.
Why oh why have they redesigned the Klingons, especially if it is set in the original timeline and only 10 years before Kirk and the original Enterprise. Glad the Discovery design has been tweaked and got a lot more detail than the original teaser had. UPDATE - Apparently the ship we see in the trailer in all exterior and interior shot is actually the USS Shenzhou and the Discovery is not shown in the trailer. USS Shenzhou - NCC-1227 |
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I'm almost excited :) although I'd prefer it not to be on Netflix - I'll probably turn sheep and pay though.
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They basically do. Michael and Denise Okuda have been heavily involved since TNG, including the recent TNG remastering.
If you watch some of the documentaries on making the Blu Rays of TNG, it wouldn't have happened without them. Same is true when the costume and prop sale happened, they basically wrote the provenance for each item. However for whatever reason, they're not involved in Discovery. |
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What really bugs me though is how out of the timeline the ship's and uniforms are.
As essentially the Enterprise actually exists and is on one of its 5 year missions with Spock as it's first officer. Again why mess with history. They would be better setting it in the future. It's meant to be the prime timeline as well. Also the bridge of the Shenzhou looks kinda similar to the Franklin from Star Trek Beyond which was built 100 or so years before. They also have kept the movie style bridge window/display. |
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Do you know what, having read your post I have decided I am not going to bother watching it, which I never thought I would say about Star Trek in a million years. I can accept a movie every 3 years as a scifi-action and accept the modern new look and effects but there needs to be more than that for a tv series. There is something special that makes Star Trek what it is and that is the science, exploration, morals and struggle to do the right thing. There needs to be more to a series than action and special effects every week.
I harp on about my "realism" factor and things making sense. I grew up with tng, ds9 in my teens and voyager finished when I was at uni so I know it all inside and out and changing the Klingons to something new isn't "realistic" for the Star Trek universe and I am not going to be able to enjoy it because I am going to be watching every episode scratching my head thinking how things don't tally with what we know. Part of the reason why I think I enjoyed Enterprise more than most people is because of the "development" episodes. Although many people argued that it wouldn't be new and interesting because it is all history, I loved how it meshed with the other series and we saw how they developed the phasers, photon torpedoes, shields, dealt with the Klingon ridges and even "reed alert". It all made sense and if they are going to go and change a formula that has worked for decades then I am not interested. |
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As nuch as I moan about the changes and things that don't match with Trek history I am still planning on watching though. Who knows maybe there will be a surprise or two and it will start to make sense.
Also what doesn't make sense is that the Discovery was nowhere to be seen in the trailer! No that is rather odd. |
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The more I see of this, the more I think "meh".
I'll watch it initially, simply as a sci-fi series, but its not looking much like Star Trek atm. |
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While I certainly remember him, I would not call him a fan favourite, at least not this fan.
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me neither (and I don't remember him either). I hate it when they do stuff like this and try and big something up for the sake of keeping the series in the news and popular. When I read "Star Trek: Discovery: A Classic Character Will Appear in Multiple Episodes" I thought "omg, how are they going to bring Spock back!"
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All I can say is halle-flipping-lujah
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Gutted its in two parts. But great that it's finally confirmed a date. Wonder of there will be an other trailer or more info.
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well it isn't really in two parts, it is just the mid-season break that all series take over xmas. I am actually glad that it is coming back so soon in January because many series leave it till February and then you get stupid series TWD that don't come back till March by which time it had might as well be a new season.
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Its definitely two parts.
The US TV xmas break doesnt start until mid December, through til Mid/Late Jan, this is ending at the start of November, until an unspecified date in Jan 2018. I expect its simply to give them time to finish those later eposides off, since filming started late, and they will need a lot of post production work. |
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Netflix confirms Star Trek: Discovery’s UK airdate.
http://www.seenit.co.uk/netflix-conf...ys-uk-airdate/ |
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That was confirmed a while ago I'm sure.
Really enjoyed the trailer although still doesn't feel like ToS era still. |
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There are so many things now I'm looking forward to about discovery but there are many things putting me off.
They recently tried to explain a way the new look for the Klingons by saying that not all houses look the same. Pfft. Also the sships and uniform and tech are all wrong for the time period as set 10 years before Kirk and the enterprise. |
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I completely agree. I want a good new scfi series to watch but at the same time I really don't want to watch this because I think it is going to be too much like the new movies and less Star Trek as we know it. For me Star Trek is TNG/DS9/Voyager and this looks nothing like it.
The sad thing is that I can almost predict the future. The series will be cancelled because nobody like it and they are so stupid that instead of realising their mistakes, they'll just think nobody wants to watch Star Trek anymore and they left it too long after Voyager. They need to keep the theme and spirit of the previous series and set it in the future on the Relativity. |
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My previous view still stands.
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Well despite my worrying I'm going to watch the first few and see what j think.
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the latest issue of SFX has just come through the door if you would like a tease:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2017/08/11.jpg I plan on reading it tomorrow, I'll let you know if there is anything exciting. |
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I'm taking mine on holiday to read. :)
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nice
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Despite its various issues, CBS have apparently renewed the series for a second season.
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There was a new photo appeared online with the actual bridge of the discovery.
I am getting more excited now as we are only a few weeks away from the first episode. Still not 100% on it but think it might actually be decent. |
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Good article with photos here:
http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/...en-1202540540/ As I suspected, we have seen little to nothing of USS Discovery on screen so far. Most of the trailer footage has been the USS Shenzhou. |
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I have another free trial of Netflix so I’ll see if I like it before spending out in it. But I do like what I see.
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I heard part of the original theme at the end there.
There was another clip with the red alert sound and the TNG communicator sound. |
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nice, the cynical side of me is wondering how late in post production they decided to add them in :D With all the backlash about the Klingons and the modern look of the show I think they have put some old stuff in to keep the traditional fans like myself happy. The beautiful thing about TNG, DS9 and Voyager is that it all flowed seamlessly and it didn't matter where you were, you knew what the technology was and what was available at the time.
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Have a watch of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQcLLfzzKWA - especially note who owns the copyrights.
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I'd seen that before. It really is a complicated mess in terms of the rights and what they can and can't do if that is correct.
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I really like it. Great nods to ToS but then goes a bit Game of Thrones in the middle.
Been a lot of clips this week and behind the scenes photos and clips about props and a tour of the bridge of the Discovery. I am now more excited and looking forward to it. 1 week to go. |
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yeah, now that they are making a point of showing everyone they are trying to keep it more traditional I will give it ago. Rather than just going off and blowing stuff up I want to see them having engineering problems, reference Starfleet and other planets etc and see that they are a part of the universe which we all know and love.
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They even confirmed details of the Klingons recently that they are purists and focus on traditions that are 100s of years old and that we will likely see other types of Klingons and that over the course of the show will see things transition to more ToS looking.
Discovery is also a repurposed science vessel or something. Think it is rather small too as sure it's got 10 decks. |
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excellent, if they move themselves back into "core" Star Trek I will be delighted. I have said many a time of the last couple of years that we need some proper scifi series which is why I was keen to watch Expanse and thrilled that it is just so flipping good. I'll keep my fingers crossed for Discovery and pray that it gets full season orders and renewed for 7 seasons.
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I hope it has engineering troubles and events we know fro m other Trek shows however I have a feeling there will be a lot of action sequences.
Jonathan Frakes has also confirmed a detail about the episode he directs. Spoiler:
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A new behind the scenes featurette, it is well worth the watch and has made me feel a lot happier about the series.
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First reviews in from the world premiere in Los Angeles ..
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/20...e-some-people/ |
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The full reviews are embargoed till the 24th.
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With it airing in the USA very shortly the titles are online.
Not sure what to make, I actually think I prefer the Enterprise theme and titles. This looks and feels a bit James Bond with West World and Game of Thrones. |
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I completely agree, it is really annoying me. I don't know how to explain it but I agree with your Westworld analogy and it is completely inappropriate for the tone and context of the series. I was expecting them to show off some amazing visual display like TNG/DS9/Voyager of planets, space particles and ships to prove a point as we are 15+ years on since the last Star Trek series and look what we can do now!
Hopefully it will get changed in season 2. |
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Well I have watched the 2 episodes and I am still trying to fully understand why they set it 10 years before ToS. They could easily have set it after Voyager and it would have played out better, especially with the tech. All they had to do was leave out the Sarek parts.
It was good that it had a lot of the ToS sounds on the bridge and the door sounds torpedo sounds, but some of the tech just shouldn't exist. Main point being the Star Wars style holograms for communications?!? What were they thinking. Trek has always used video calling and for this to exist in the prime timeline just doesn't fit.Even when ships drop out of warp its clearly from the JJ-verse. There was even lens flare and the phasers on ship and handheld are like bullets rather than the beams they should be. Hopefully things they can resolve over the course of the series. That being said I did enjoy the main story, even if Starfleet seemed fine to start a war, and as the ensign stated 'we are explorers' Spoiler:
The new trailer for the rest of the season almost makes the first 2 episodes a prequel to the actual show with episode 3 feeling like the actual pilot as it introduces the ship and all the other main characters. |
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What is the length of the episodes, are they really only 10 mins long as that is what everyone was saying months ago?
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No they are usual length about 40 to 45 mins each.
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Watched Episodes 1 & 2 tonight, quite impressed so far, looking forward to Episode 3.
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I am going to watch them today, I couldn't bring myself to watch it last night. I'll report back later.
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I will watch them when i get home from work at 22:30 later.
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well I can't believe I am saying this but I really really like it. Yes there are some niggly bits but there is more than enough Trek in it at the mo to keep me interested. The techno jargon got me hooked from the start and adds to the "realism" factor which I have mentioned so many times before. The special effects are superb and all I need now is the universe expanding and seeing more of the ship, planets and space stations etc to make the whole thing real.
It is really good and the way I know how much I like is because I want to watch the next episode now and would happily stay up all night and watch them back to back if they were released all at the same time like other Netflix series. |
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Watched it again earlier, really don't like the Klingon look and also they sound too muffled and like they aren't speaking proper Klingon lanfuage that we already know. I also hope they drop the JJ lens flare and silly angles for everything as well as the fast cuts.
Hopefully episode 3 will be better as we actually get to see the Discovery and meet the crew. |
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One issue with the version I saw was that there were no sub titles for the Kingons, so it was impossible to know what was being said, which made following those bits very hard, I'm sure they think it adds to the "realism" but please, just speak English.
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Netflix and the version I downloaded had subtitles.
Also some info about episode 3. Its like another pilot! (As I suspected) Also Season 2is likely to be early 2019. https://trekmovie.com/2017/09/25/sta...ect-coming-up/ Quote:
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I thought both episodes were good.
It's totally pointless trying to compare the visuals with TOS. Looks like The ship Discovery might be a Dirty Dozen type set up, that could be interesting. |
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