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Its not an option, the law is they must charge.
Why shouldnt they have their names on them ?
They were just the same when they were given away free.

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As l say l am only going by what someone who knows a lot more then l told me as personally it does not worry me as l am happy to fork out for a carrier or two.

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Hugh generally knows his onions l would say.:)

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Yeah most folks from Yorkshire usually do. They are not bad with potatoes and carrots, too. Not too much else, mind you. ;)

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Oh l don't know my Dad is a retired qualified chef and former Royal Navy technician so as they say in Yorkshire the lad has not done badly for himself.;)

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And his Haggis Tatties and neeps ;)

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I keep the car boot well stocked with old shopping bags from various supermarkets.

It should also be noted that Aldi and Lidl have always charged for bags .

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I have those small and large reusable bags that Tesco & Sainsburys bags in my boot, they also get used on holiday for bits and bobs as well as the first shop.

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I wonder if its the same for Rolex watches too.. :D

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So do you think that all own brand products should also be free then?!

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I doubt there is a law saying if they have their name on it they cannot charge.

If you don't want to advertise you can buy canvas bags from charities or whatever but they won't be 10p.

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Good idea, i've seen a few people do this.

After seeing the problem of UK landfill sites from the 1950's onwards going into the sea due to coastal erosion and killing sea life I think that it's a good idea.

Lots of clothes, plastics etc that we threw away decades ago are now finding their way into the sea, as are poisonous chemicals from batteries etc.

As time went on, landfill methods improved, but declined again in the 80's when the Thatcher administration forced councils to use the cheapest option for refuse collection and disposal. It was simply cheaper to bury the waste and not recycle it, so that's what the private companies who bid under Compulsary Competitive Tendering did.

Thankfully, the environmental impacts of doing this are now being taken seriously again. Some places are even mining old landfill sites to recycle materials and reclaim precious materials that we are running short of :)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bgpc2f

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There is no such law.

In fact the entire thing originated from this: The origin of which was never traced and was subsequently dismissed as cack.

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That was what made up my mind that Den can't possibly be a woman...what self respecting woman buys a bag, then gets rid of the branding / logo? :shocked:

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I bet it spread like wildfire on Facebook though. :rolleyes:

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See, at first I was wondering why you posted so much in the "what are you eating" thread and when I thought you were a woman, I thought that you were a little over indulgent.

Now that you explained that you are from Yorkshire, everything makes sense. (The eating / confusion over gender lol...)

(I kid, I kid!!!)

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Oh Chloe you are getting a fair bit wrong here as first of all l don't actually eat that much as l just like what l like and that sometimes is exotic.;)

Secondly l have looked in the mirror lately and it does fit the description of a male although sometimes l am accused of acting a bit like a drama queen.;)

And thirdly My Dad is from Yorkshire and l am from deepest Devon.;)

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I've seen people being charged for bags in almost every shop (and takeaway) I've been in, not just big stores. A nice little earner for the shopkeepers.

Anyway, 5p bags don't exist in most of the big stores anymore.

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It's not a nicer earner for the shops at all. It's a tax that goes to the government.

They have to charge for bags.

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It does actually depend on the size of the shop as to whether it's compulsory (big retailers) or voluntary (smaller ones):

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/carrier-...sponsibilities

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Here in Scotland anyway even local small corner shops charge for bags.

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Larger shops are supposed to donate it to charity, after certain costs are removed.

Small shops and takeaways pocket the cash.

"If you’re a small or medium-sized business, you can charge and follow the scheme voluntarily. You don’t have to report or keep records for carrier bag use".

Plus if the shop charges over 5p for a bag, none of it goes to charity. Tada! Big stores now sell them for 10p....

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It's slightly different in Scotland.

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Different how ?

Looks like Scottish shops are just as free to keep the money if they wish.

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The way it's worded sounds more like yes you could keep the money and not tell us how many bags you sold but we would rather you donated to charity and told us.

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Simplest answer is to get a rather more permanent bag and use that..

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The bag charge has actually been in Scotland for 4 years already. Wow.

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Cambridge Asda baskets swiped as 5p bags phased out

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-45433997

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Some supermarkets put inventory tags on their baskets so you can’t take them out of the store. If they are situated in an area where a significant portion of the local inhabitants have difficulty with the concept of not stealing things, they should just do that. I bet they already have coin slots on their trolleys.

You can tell a lot about a locality by the supermarket trolleys ... eg. Asda in Bearsden does not require a coin, Asda in Clydebank does.

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A lot of people tend to forget their bag for life or pop in for goods unexpectedly. They then end up with a load of bags at home; maybe an idea could be to offer the option to use something with a deposit that's refunded upon return?

Last time I used Morrisons for home delivery (ages ago due to them passing off old fruit to online customers), they charged for normal bags, but the next time you could hand them back in for a refund.

I thought that this would be a good idea for in-store purchases, but for online I now use Tesco who deliver without bags in the first place if you request this.

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We always remember bags when we are going shopping and usually if I pop in unexpectedly I carry a couple of bags in my rucksack if I don't have room in it for what I pick up.

It's not too hard to remember them now as the charge has been around for 4 years in Scotland.

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I think a lot of people keep some in the boot of their car too.

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I have loads of the heavy duty bags that Tesco & Sainsbury's do, I try and keep them in the boot with a insulated bag.

A few years back I bought a thermos bag which is very good at keeping stuff cold.

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Plastic bag fee 'to double to 10p' and includes every shop.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46689684

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Answer for shops is to go back to paper bags, so the unwary shopper has to remember to bring their own bag, or just not buy anything too heavy or wet.

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Some of my local independent shops have cottoned on to this idea.

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Some years ago Homebase changed to paper bags but now the only use plastic bags.


I doubt if charging 10p per bag will have much effect but changing 50p or more for a plastic bag would have an effect.

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No it wouldn’t. Not even if they charged a pound.

Because if i needed a bag and didn’t have one, i’d Still pay it.

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Yes but now the reusable bags become cheaper in relation to the "single use bag" - not that we single use those anyway. If single use bags are 10p(50p) and strong bags are 50p you'd be daft to pay for single use bags.

So you buy more multi-use bags which you would keep, fuller cupboard, safer dolphins/turtles/name critter of choice.

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I have seen some rebels using the shop's wire baskets to carry their shopping to their car. Then the whole thing goes in, basket and all.

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Some people will always not adhere to any the normal rules that the vast majority of people follow.

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I do that, i reuse them till they fall apart ,it's not that i'm Eco friendly,it's just i can't bring myself to keep buying bags ;)

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But you would be in the minority Pierre. Nor can I imagine that we'd see many £1 plastic bags blowing around all over the place and that alone is a good reason why charging for plastic bags is a success.

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Sainsbury's sent me a nice woven shopping bag as a Christmas gift that's actually made from 4 plastic bottles. Ultimate re-cycling. :)

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If I go shopping on foot, I wear a backpack. If I take the car, there are always rugged bags in the boot. And I wash them from time to time too in case of contamination. And so it has been since many years before the bag charge (which I've never paid).

But since the charge started, I have seen more people buying rolls of single-use bags as bin-liners. So have we reduced plastic bag use, or just moved the costs to consumers instead of supermarkets?

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This comment may annoy some members. But, why should l have to pay for a plastic bag to put shopping in.

If, l spend over £10.00 on goods, why should l have to pay 50p for a plastic bag. I have already paid over the odds for goods. And the biggest problem is that small shops have now cottoned on to the charge.

Yes, we whould have paper bags, but l am certain in afew years. We will have stupid campaigners out there to say that paper bags destroy the environment.

In fact my council wont collect certain plastic bags. How stupid

This country has gone totally made on what is happening to the environment.

What we should do is ban all vehicles on the street, which will make cyclists happy. Ban all plastics in the world, ban all paper in case it causes problem.

What else can l think off.

This country needs to grow up. Its just a way of bringing in another stupid tax that we will have to pay.

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Arthur, the shops have to buy their plastic bags just as they have to buy the baked beans to put on their shelves. They sell you the beans, so why shouldn’t they sell you the bag?

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Where are you getting 50p from?

Also it's really not a big deal, remember to take bags with you when going shopping.

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As I said In a [revious post I have 8 heavy bags from Tesco & Sainsbury, along with a thermos bags.

I put them in the boot when done, but sometimes like Christmas some are in the shed with food & drink in, and I don't have enough when I do the normal shop, but bulky stuff stays in the basket.


There are occasions when I don't have any bags. But will not buy a5/10p bag as they fall apart to easily.

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True, but that choice has been taken away from them.
They are being forced to charge 5p/10p, whether they want to, or not.

Ken W mentioned 50p, Post #135.

"Take bags with you" is easy to say, not always so easy to do, or remember.

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True, but Arthur’s beef appears to be with supermarkets charging for the heavy duty reusable bags that the supermarkets have never given away for free.