re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

From what I've seen a common explanation seems to be that the company that originally built the network ran out of cash part way through their build.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Don't think BT does this - it is under a legal obligation to connect all premises, but obviously not all to fibre - this will be an economic assessment.

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Which is why we need a universal service obligation for next-gen broadband.

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There's the added issue of exchange-only lines with BT, which largely depend on when the building/line was put in and not it's location on a street.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I don't disagree, but I'm not sure how that could apply to the likes of Virgin in a way that's sustainable without pumping a lot of public money into it.

Like the kind of money they've spent on HS2...

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I have always favoured a nationalised network to all premises, but available for ISPs to deliver to the punter.

The kind of money that is being invested in HS2 would be better spent on a national fibre network. Imagine the employment that would be generated, in all parts of the country, by the construction work alone, not to mention the boost it would give to commerce everywhere as high quality broadband becomes available in every corner of the country.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Indeed, that's what I was hinting at. The money it takes to shave 30mins off a train journey to London is more than it would take to blanket the entire country in fibre. The economies of scale alone would likely make it cheaper than copper and the benefits would last generations.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Given the public money pumped into the USO for landline phones, the postal service, and BDUK, I don't see the issue with spending some of it on subsidizing the remaining "non-economically feasible" properties.

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Don't get me started on HS2... Building any classic railways in this day and age is a farce.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

i'd be lucky to get that, id not even get above 10mb off bt atm

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

If CPs like Sky and TalkTalk were willing to pay more who knows maybe we wouldn't be going down the g.fast route and FTTP might be more viable.

Bear in mind, in areas where OR provide FTTP BT Consumer is the only major ISP to provide service over it. It's not a perfect example as the cost to the CPs should be similar as far as linking their kit into the Openreach FTTP. But there has to be something that's financially putting them off Openreach FTTP.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I was getting 10Mb off BT a couple months ago, now I'm getting 80/20. There's still hope yet!

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

It's just occurred to me that your actual download and upload speeds (80Mbps and 20Mbps) are the same as your download/upload ratio as a percentage (80%:20%).

I don't know why this amuses me but it does.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

The cab that supply my house is still under review so could be next year before I get it

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Its also the "Pareto principle" numbers!

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Well i just got the e-mail this morning about the speed upgrades and also an e-mail to say i'm included in the trial, anyone know what the trial is yet?

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IF we knew, we wouldn't be able to post here about it anyway.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

True, it's been a while since my last trial for SH2 and we had to keep quiet about that :)

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Given you signed up for a broadband hardware trial it seems fair to assume it's a trial of new broadband hardware. :)

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

BT has begun trials of its new G.fast broadband technology, which provides ultrafast speeds of over 10 times faster than the current UK average.

Huntingdon in Cambridgeshire is the first town involved in the tests being carried out by Openreach, with residents in the trial able to access speeds of up to 330Mbps...

...The company plans to start deploying G.fast either next year or in 2017, rolling it out alongside FTTC and FTTP, providing that the trials go well. Fingers crossed that’s the case, as this will be a major boon for internet speeds in the UK to say the least.

Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2015/08/2...#ixzz3k9Ulu3BU

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Indeed. They hope to reach the majority of the UK by 2025, and have it available to 'millions', which could be less than 10% of the UK, by 2020.

I'm sure VM, running at 300Mb across nearly 50% of the UK by 2016, will be quaking in their boots at the prospect of BT 'hoping' to offer 'up to' 500Mb to a smaller footprint than theirs by 2025.

By 2025 VM will be in excess of 1Gb, and be delivering that to over 2/3rds of the UK's homes and businesses.

There is no speed competition here, and BT have never had any interest in one and aren't going to start now. BT know there's no point and no money to be made from them pushing fibre deeper into their network in any kind of hurry. They were hoping FTTC would be adequate for at least 12 years.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

ive had no email about any speed upgrades?

When are they due to start rolling out?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I think we can work out BT's plan.

They will rollout g.fast and continue to spend silly money on football ti keep customers.

They will be hoping for someone in the mean time to invent g.fast2 or something, 'anything' to avoid spending on FTTP.

Of course due to the state of VM in my area, I would prefer 80mbit on a solid isp like sky over a gigabit from VM anyway. A connection that is only full speed at dusk hours would only be a last resort for me.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I got my email on Thursday. Roll out commences from the beginning of October.

We also had notice that, in our area, there will be a disrupted service on 20th September due to network upgrade work.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

IS FTTP a good idea? I was installing fibre in a trial and its a PITA

You cant bend it too much
If some numpty rips up a cabe doing a driveway we cant splice it easily
The ends of fibre cable are really sharp and can give you a splinter
The light could burn your retna.

There are just too many stupid people out there. Would it not be as good to run fibre to a pit or cab say then run shielded cat7 to every house?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I think my area was upgraded ready for the new speeds last month as i was moved onto a different CMTS and ever since i get a constant speed of 162mb and 21mb/s downloads.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Trials seem to be going well don't they? 309Mb achieved so far. Will be interesting to see if they ever achieve 330Mb in the real world though.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

After the Virgin Media FTTP Papworth trial, the next areas to be done will be outlaying areas of Leicester.

It will be RFoG so don't expect any mega speeds, however I have been advised that true FTTP and Gb speeds to start being rolled out next year.

Apparently something to do with having to connect a certain no. Of homes to true FTTP in order to claim the title of UK's fastest provider.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

There I was keeping schtum about the Leicester villages project :D

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I'm sure it will. This technology is to a large extent the existing VDSL technology on steroids.

Trials have already gotten it to a gigabit combined between up and downstream.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

You can bend it plenty enough, and you can get bend insensitive fibre also

You don't need too, just blow in a replacement cable.

Only if you strip off the acrylic coating of the fibre to expose the glass, for which you need a fibre stripping tool and something no one but a fibre splicer would ever do.

The class of laser used in FTTP equipment is no greater than Class 1M which is quite safe when observed by the naked eye
No.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Still waiting for the last speed upgrade here... :dozey:

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Do you have a SH?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

so another case of rural areas getting FTTP before cities?

The UK seems backwards the digital divide is the other way round.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Cities are already well served for high speed connections. Rural areas have a lot of catching up to do.

The other day I noticed a new "Fibre broadband is here" cab at the boundary of my village. So I checked BT's website: "estimated for 2018" :(

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I am speculating he's referring to our urban areas relative to other nations. We actually do very well in terms of rural areas relative to our peers but it's a much less flattering comparison in terms of ultrafast in urban areas.

For all its faults thanks to the BDUK programme alongside Superfast Cornwall we have a smaller digital divide between urban and rural areas than most, which is a very good thing. By the time BDUK 1 is complete everywhere we will be looking very good indeed relative to our European peers.

The majority of BT's fibre to premises is in more rural areas as fibre to cabinet was so much cheaper in urban ones. The largest group of deep fibre connections in urban areas are from Hyperoptic and are purely in apartment blocks.

It's pretty obvious which of the divides is the most harmful, though.

I may be frustrated at having a connection slower than the one I had in 2011, but it's not that big of a deal compared to those stuck on sub-2Mb, which I can empathise with having had extremely slow, intermittent and unstable service to the point of it threatening my job when I moved here - a suburb of the most prosperous city in the north of England and the 3rd centre of financial and legal services in the UK behind London and Edinburgh.

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There is no business case in VM overbuilding their existing cable network with FTTP. I imagine that if things go as they wish they will be building more FTTP as new build in both urban and some more rural areas.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

thats exactly it, compared to other nations we poor. FTTC and cable are not as good as FTTP.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I accept that companies like Hyperoptic can do 1Gbit over their FTTP networks, but that is in part the fact it's a new build network as much as it is being FTTP.

DOCSIS 3.1 allows for much faster speeds without FTTP, so for cable there isn't such as pressing need.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Perhaps more accurate is to say that it's FTTP because it's new build.

No business case in overbuild when you can upgrade your existing network to deliver gigabit speeds.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Yes I do, config is 60/3. According to the web site the upgrade was completed earlier this year (Feb/March'ish?) delayed from August last year.

Had the original letter offering the free AUTOMATIC upgrade, still waiting...

...in the last few weeks performance has been shocking, lucky to get even 5mbits in afternoon/evening.

As I can get Infinity 2, seriously considering switching, after 15 years with originally the NTL 512k service.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Have you ever contacted VM regarding this? Via phone, community forum, email, letter ?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

To be perfectly frank, no.

My experiences with VM customer service would make walking to hell and back seem like a nice stroll in the park, guess I was just unlucky who I got to speak with.

I think I have a ntl email address somewhere, can't remember the last time I even logged in to it.

As for writing a letter? Better things to do with my time - earning a living to pay the bills :-)

Community forum? Guessing there is something like this place but run by VM?

As I said with the dire performance (can get more than double what VM are delivering through my mobile phone), I don't see why it's on me when they promised and failed to deliver a service.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Well it seems like you can either sit back and wait for it to happen, or spend 5 minutes on the phone and ask them to upgrade you.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Well. I've read lots of threads on here where people have upgraded and the performance has plummeted like a stone.

All I want is what I am paying for.

If VM would ever get their finger out and offer sensible upload speeds....on that metric alone BT have a very good headstart.

I did login to my online account and saw that I could "order" an upgrade, the wording kind of suggested it was a new 12 month contract, so out of the question.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Phone them up first thing in the morning to get UK tech support and they will put you on 100mb where you should be.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Not that far away from being that metric alone, too. By the end of the year Virgin simply won't sell anything as slow as the 76Mb that is the top speed for 99% of BT's areas.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

this is why developing countries are now getting better infrastructure as well as rural areas in the UK.

Romania is a lot of FTTP but that was because they built it fresh before that they had little infrastructure. So it seems the areas that are historically better such as urban areas are going to end up worse off. As you said due to business reasons although in the UK I think there is political reasons also.

As long as providers are able to extend the life of copper, they will do so.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Once we do get Gigabit speeds, what will we moan about?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Trolls? ...

VM have millions of customers. You wouldn't have time to do anything else if you had to read each customers feedback on services they have, broadband in this instance. There have been notable screws ups but the recent ones are not anywhere near as bad as they once were, the glorious SH1, the lack of capacity to handle the load around that time. I suggest you call VM as advised or stop moaning. forum link > http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Speed/bd-p/Speed

or go through thinking of leaving.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

All reports point that way, I should imagine there's a couple of issues to be ironed out before we see 330 but that's only to be expected and is the purpose of the trial.

Huntingdon (only) is also supposed to be trialling a new variant of F.o.D. up to 1Gb as well but no start date announced as yet.

And to think I got banned from this forum for using SH1 as the mod "knew what I meant by it" (won't mention his name).

Are we allowed to call it the S****Y Hub now?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Their variability. They are unlikely to be 1Gb 24x7x365.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I have a 25GB game to download tonight, if I don't get a clear 152Mbit down for the ~30mins it'll take, I'm going to be ****ed.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

What game?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

MGS5

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

How did you get advance notice of upgrade work? Was that by post or email?

Genuinely curious!

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Post usually, a card through the door.

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I suspect if you check your upstream frequencies Mr Beast they don't go that high. The upgrade is both to address this and supply extra downstream bandwidth - replacement of amplifiers, diplex filters, nodes as required, etc.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

25GB on a game ! Manic Miner on the ZX Spectrum only took up 48Kb - still haven't finished it after 30 years...

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Don't know how to that multi quote stuff.

I'm a real person, not a troll. I can provide screen caps of whatever screens you want from the SH configuration screens.

Screen caps attached to prove my point about absolutely DIRE performance.

2.15/1.95 on my 60/3 cable connection

10.05/1.83 using my phone (S5 on Three).

Interesting that apart from the thread about the speed upgrade, EVERY SINGLE post on that page you linked to is about the p-poor performance of VM's network.

My point was that there is no point in wetting your knickers about some mythical 300+ speed when they can't even reliably deliver the existing packages.

I have seen the thread about the new trials and people getting 309 or whatever, but of course the back end equipment in those areas will have been FULLY specc'ed out...

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

You are only speaking from your own experience. VM's network is quite capable of pushing the speeds they advertise. Sure, some areas may have problems but outliers don't mean the general subscriber base can't achieve their speed tier.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Did you actually LOOK at the linked page?

Seems like the "outliers" are evenly spread across the entire country, or as you put the general subscriber base...

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Hmm, 30 complaints, over 3 million customers. What was the definition of "outlier" again?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

There are literally thousands of individual "regions" within the network. Plus, you have to account for people having issues that are local to them (i.e. wifi) and not just congestion.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Think everyone will agree there are more than 30, and they are spread across the entire country, and it is and has been ongoing for many many months, and so affects the general user base.

Fixing the network to actually deliver what they are currently selling would be a good start, before doing any more manly-bit waving, that in real life impacts nobody.

I would be quite happy to pay more for a 30/30 connection that actually delivered 24/7 rock solid than some theoretical 300+/whatever ludicrously low figure they happen to apply.

Time will tell.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I don't agree with that.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I have to say I have been over the moon with Virgin - Speeds have been consistently above what I am paying for. Yes, I have had the odd "wobble" but not enough to cause me to worry.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/09/40.png

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Strange - I have always had the speed I am supposed to have, and currently get 162Mb/s on my 150 tier, and all my neighbours are the same.

However, what I don't claim is that everyone has the same customer experience as I do, as I realise that VM is made up of multiple previous networks, some of which were not appropriately funded, and need to be brought up to the same level as others.

tl:dr My experience isn't the same as everyone else, and neither is yours....

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Post.

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My channel frequencies are 46200000, 32600000, 39400000 Hz.

I guess all those upgrades will enable speed increases and capacity for dedicated channels for WiFi. Hopefully, it will follow that we get our speed boost and WiFi early on in the roll out. I know it doesn't really work like that.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Yeah, thought as much. You are probably on a network with a 5-50MHz upstream band, and a 54MHz - 750MHz downstream band. Standard extended DOCSIS build.

VM's new build is 5-85MHz upstream and 108MHz-1002MHz downstream, with a field replaceable module upgrading that to (I think!) 5-230MHz upstream, 300MHz-1.3GHz upstream.

It's not necessary for the WiFi project, that will use relatively little bandwidth, but is certainly necessary to make room to go to from 8 to 16 and onwards to 24 DOCSIS 3 downstreams, let alone adding DOCSIS 3.1 into the mix.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I'll watch out for changes after the day of the network upgrade work and post them here when they happen.

Channels beyond 8 is where SH3 comes in I guess.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

There are already a bunch of areas with more than 8 channels and devices load balanced across them.

Obviously a newer modem is needed to take full advantage of all of them.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Theoretical bandwidth of what, about 1.2Gbit? Yum!

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

When is the Wifi projet due to start? I thought it was Sept 1st.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Just the nudge I needed to get round to calling them. Person I spoke to offered to upgrade me today to 100 if the area was ready! It was in March. Too little, too late. Downgraded to 50 service (never goes above 25 on a great day so why pay for extra), cancelled tv completely, saved £24/month.

Result. :)

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

When all the network upgrades are done and the speed boost roll out is complete will you not be tempted to review your position?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

95% of the tv we watch is bbc/itv anyway, the rest we can download, usually months before they are shown here.

When it's done we'll end up on 100 anyway, there only are 2 of us living here, 2 desktops, 2 laptops. We don't do gaming so that'll be more than enough, in reality 50 is more than enough.

My mobile is already unlimited anything, when my wife's contract is up for renewal and we get unlimited everything we'll ditch the phone line as well.

So I guess the answer is no, not really :D

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Just for a laugh I ran the speedtest again 1.62/0.38

On a 60 meg connection, that's pathetic.

and for comparison, connecting to Galaxy S5 mobile hotspot - 11.57/1.91

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Ahh, many happy memories, ZX Speccy!! ... Never finshed Jet Set Willy or Manic Miner :)

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Fair enough. Your main reasoning is that you don't need the speed, or the phone or TV, not so much that VM is pants.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Have you reported the fault?

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1.62/0.38? I'd call that pretty rubbish!

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When I spoke to VM this morning the lady ran some sort of check and said that everything looks ok.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Anyone remember when this thread discussed October's broadband tier upgrades rather than a person's broadband fault?

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Yes. Could probably sell 600Mb quite happily on 24 downstreams.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

And then what happened?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Then I cancelled the TV, downgraded to 50 and saved 24/month...connection is still rubbish.

Which I expected, it's still the same cable coming from the same cab after all.

@Ignitionnet - it's not about my "fault" I apparently don't have one. I was *originally* pointing out that rather than make pointless promises about headline speeds they would be better served fixing the current network to make it robust and reliable.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I'm a little confused why you haven't asked them to fix the fault.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Because VM told me there wasn't one?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Problem is, most people are not like you.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Well it's your money, I guess.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Perhaps they think the PEBKAC

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

What was their reasoning for your slow speeds, then? There's obviously an issue, Virgin saying the fault isn't with them doesn't mean they can't help you determine where it is. Have you done a wired speed test?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

If there was no fault showing on the system they would have offered to have an engineer come out and look.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

That's not true. They only send an engineer out when they've identified the fault. The engineer can't do anything unless he has a fault.

However, they would go through diagnostics to determine the actual cause of the issue - which it doesn't sound like has been done.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Did you try connecting your computer directly to the Superhub via ethernet cable and testing like that?

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1.334 Gbit before overheads, with a full downstream channel set.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

This new hardware trial, any change its 24 channel down hardware? I looked at liberty group and unless I read wrong info 16 down is the max channel hardware there using across the globe?

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Sure on that?

UPC Romania provide the Hitron CGNv4.

A couple of others provide 24 downstream kit too. UPC Cablecom sell 500Mb via their Horizon STB.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Going by the trials in Cardiff that may not be the case. At least, not in all areas.

Max Traffic Rate 337920000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 42600 bytes

Max Traffic Rate 21504000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 16320 bytes

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

FTTC Infinity delivers at most 19Mb of usable upload in my experience. The Virgin product will deliver slightly over 20.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Wasn't asked to do that, but the comparison I gave earlier is valid, wireless to the sh-2 versus wireless to the Galaxy S5.

The phone is 6x faster.

I don't know enough to tell them they must be wrong

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Had to look that one up. Ho Ho


So anyway, sorry for hijacking the thread, getting back to topic (sort of) my original original point was it's a bit pointless announcing another round of speed upgrades when the last set announced what, nigh on 2 years ago, STILL hasn't been fully rolled out as my earlier screen cap showed.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

That's actually not a valid comparison, though. Wireless is such a wildcard that it's nearly impossible to make any conclusions from that test. There's a lot you can do to tweak and configure your wireless in order to improve speeds, however what people are getting at is that it's pointless to do so until you're sure that wireless is a problem.

Plug an ethernet cable into your shub and temporarily disable wireless (push the button on the front of the hub if you need), then do a speed test. If you get full speed, wireless is the problem and we can do something about that. If you're still seeing your slow speeds, you've got something to tell Virgin who can take a more thorough look.

There's no point in suffering with a shoddy service. Spending 20mins doing proper diagnostics can likely resolve your issue and give you full speed.

Yeah but for how long before it gets STM'd? :P

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

If I'm reading my config correctly on BT Infinity, the 19Mb is a capped figure.
The upload attainable rate on my line is 29.9Mb, but the set rate is 20Mb.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Indeed. Capped to 79,999kbps down, 19,999kbps up at DSL layer.

Due to loss of performance over distance alongside interference from other lines most customers are unable to hit those numbers sadly.

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Haha! No idea, but STM is for now quite important to keep the usage of those who simply must seed about 30 torrents at a time under some kind of control.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Correct it is capped and could offer more if the cap were removed.

It's worth remembering that Virgin have the upper hand anyway as distance from the cabinet doesn't matter too much to their customers.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

Until it gets STM'd, or you're doing something that VM's traffic shaping doesn't like ;)

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30? I'm seeding closer to 1000.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I almost never hit upload STM, so I'm ok with this.

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 

I left VM back when there wasn't any STM on the top tier.

Still. VM's network is better for heavy downloaders, Openreach's network is better for heavy uploaders. No change there then.