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Delayed email, just got my email as well. WOOP WOOP

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I applied but my account was pending disconnect for a while (working out a deal with retentions) so didn't have much hope, but got my email too.

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Ignitionnet should shed some light, I'm assuming a 16 down 8 up new superhub? Maybe us new hardware will be trailing faster speeds. You never know ha

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Got same email as well. If it is a new router/superhub, is it easy to just swap them over?

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It's presumably a trial of that new wifi sharing thing they've announced.

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It would be a quickstart if it is a new router, so just an automated phone call.

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Alot of people will be unhappy if that is the case,and would likely drop out of the trial.

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What new Wifi thing?

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Virgin Routers being public Wifi hotspots.

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Nice, i got an e-mail this morning =)

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yup, also got my email.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2015/08/7.gif

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I wonder when the trial people will find out, need someone in the know to blab before then!

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I wonder if trialist's will get access to the new speeds they are going to roll out from October earlier?

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Pure Speculation but I would assume that may be the case because they will want to know that said hardware is stable with the faster speeds.

Who knows, we may even get IPv6!

Guess we will find out.

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Given that it's a broadband hardware trial, I'm going to suggest that it's a trial of Broadband hardware.

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I'm in too, hopefully its not a wifi sharing thing. It would be the first thing i'd turn off.

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I would recommend having a look at the other members of the Liberty Global family and seeing what they are providing for their higher end speeds.

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That is going to be on new and existing kit. It will also have no impact on your own speeds.

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Maybe but there is no need for it. Load/stress testing can be done in VM's labs with a full set of channels more effectively.

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Not had anything yet, guess i'm not in this one.

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got my email today, :)

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Me neither :(

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I got my email get in

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Welcome Aboard

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Was in last one for ac router

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Just a thought. If it is a trial of new speeds and hardware, what effect does this have on bills? Like if you are on the top package and you test a router that delivers a higher speed does that impact on the bills?

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no.

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No. The test device is usually set up on a completely separate test account, it has no impact on your normal account and, in fact, you can usually plug both devices in at the same time (shh).

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so i'll get 400mbs, that's how it works right. awesome

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hmmm not entirely true. wasn't it proven that wasn't the case in recent tests?

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Oh well no email for me, and I used to trial a lot of stuff as a staff trialist.

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You're no longer VM staff?

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I haven't been since Oct 2013. lol.

I do however work for another MObile operator who is getting in to quad play this year :)

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I was never able to do this, when i was on the SH2ac trial my SH2 stopped working, i found this out when my SH2ac went pear shaped and i had to get Tech to put my old SH2 back onto my account.

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oops: have fun :D

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I think the SH2 and SH2ac might have been different as internally they are nearly identical. See what happens with this next one.

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Ooh an excuse to spend that £150 to build myself a newer mITX pfSense box! Dual WAN config here we come... maybe. :D

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got my email just waiting too see what I get hopefully its a new hub and 300Mb

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I also got an email the other day as well so I'm in. damn though if it's wifi share them benefit claimants around my area are going to be wetting themselves downloading porn, films and anything else they can get their hands on

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So all the benefits claimants, who would need to have their own VM subscription to qualify to use your hotspot, will be leaving their broadband-supplied homes and queuing up to pillage your free public hotspot after signing in with their VM credentials? OK. :p:

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I know your excited about the trial but that is pretty uncalled for. Not every person on benefits is a scrounger.

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Your pre-edit post (yay email notifications) raised a smile. ;)

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Would modem mode remove this wifi hotspot? How does it work? Is there anothe CM inside to receive a seperate signal?

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I didn't say everyone i said in my area. But if you are going to pull me down least get your facts right. The row of flats opposite my road 1 down and 1 up a row of 10 of them are all occupied by benefit claimants who have been long term unemployed.

They are often fighting, police are often round windows getting put through. They get moved on but the next lot turn up. I mentioned a couple of empty ones when my brother wanted to move closer to me which is when i found out they were just for long term benefit claimants.

I could go on to be honest. Ive had to claim myself in the past so like i said in my post i said my area i didn't inc the whole of the uk

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Who knows lol it's a vm area lag free usually. If its the case you need to be a vm customer to use the hotspot i suppose we'll have to wait and see what it is. Unfortunately when the trial goes live there will be an NDA i assume so won't be able to say.

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VM have already confirmed that's the case I believe. It was in one of the many articles posted recently. I'm looking forward to receiving the trial hardware! Hopefully it's an improvement on the usual bargain basement stuff.

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Unconfirmed but I'm going to guess "no". You have to opt-out of the wifi hotspot via MyVM, which implies it's a change at the config level of the hub rather than modem/router level. In other words, I don't think modem mode is going away, if anything it could just mean the hotspot is stronger.

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Could this also be something to do with easing pressure on the 4G network it was in the paper the other day that emergency services will be moving over to the 4G network and given preference to the network over regular 4G.

wouldn't surprise me if there was some deal struck to kick start all companies to use wifi sharing to take some pressure from the 4G network

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Yes and no. Virgin mobile is an MVNO, they don't have their own infrastructure instead they essentially rent space on EE's network. This means every time someone sends an SMS, makes a call or downloads data on Virgin mobile, it costs Virgin money. By encouraging Virgin Mobile users to use wifi, Virgin doesn't have to pay EE as much money. No doubt that's the real business decision behind this.

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Thats not going to happen for a LONG time. EE are the only bidders... Airwave will be going for a while longer.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01..._onmishambles/

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Emergency services already take priority on mobile networks.

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Since "modem mode" does not turn off the modem or the routing functionality of the router then it's quite possible it would work as normal. Though that might displease people who use modem mode to avoid the the Superhub's wireless.

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VM don't have a 4G network.

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Emergency services don't currently use normal mobile networks - not for priority/critical communications anyway. They have their own. The whole proposal is they share public networks in future.

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Really? Then why do they disable the other ports on the switch when you turn on modem mode?

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Modem mode is an emulation of a modem. The routing is still there it's just running in bridge mode. This is actually the case for all cable modems.

A conscious decision was made to have modem mode disable the additional switch ports. There is no reason for it to have to be this way, and if VM allowed multiple public IP addresses via their configuration it wouldn't be.

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It makes sense to disable the additional ports, it would cause too many issues otherwise as only one IPv4 is allocated in this mode. Consumers would struggle to correctly route the other 3 ports along with a DHCP service.

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Is anyone still waiting to hear about the trial? The acceptance email said we'd hear within a couple of weeks, and time's almost up... Only asking as I've seen others say they've had their letters etc and we're still waiting. I wonder if our postman has eaten it? :(

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I haven't heard anything since the original email.

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Same, got the email saying I was in and then it has gone very quiet.

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It has only been 9 days since we got told, so not been long at all really, and the email did say a couple of weeks with more information.

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Then it's quite obvious, isn't it? We all have greedy postmen. :mad:

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Still waiting here too, but there seems to be something up with our mail lately too, we got a water bill today that said it was posted ten days ago, we hadn't had any mail in two weeks.

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I had one of those since when do bills come through the post

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Well they've also not granted access to the beta forum, so I don't think anything has been set in motion just yet.

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Yeah, nothing happening. Bored. :zzz:

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I'm sure you guys will get something after the bank holiday to play with, probably. Until then maybe it's a sign to enjoy the glorious weather for the weekend...

Oh.

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I live in Scotland. We almost never have glorious weather. Unless you count lots of cloud and rain as glorious.

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Well, you have my sympathies!

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Anyone heard anything since the original email?

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Nope, i haven't but it is still early days.

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No, I haven't either.

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Really? I've been using the Superhub 3 for over a week now. It's great, rock solid and I get a solid 300 down, 30 up 24hours a day.

The VoIP functionality is a bit lost on me as I don't really make many phone calls, but the holographic emitter is a nice touch - very star wars - shame I don't know anyone else with a SH3 to test it with.

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You're about 5 months late for that.

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Not according to the snazzy LCD clock on the front of the SH3!

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Did you try the red button yet? Transforms into a jet pack.

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Nope :(

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I hope I hear something soon, wonder what it will look like.

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Perhaps it is 300 baud dialup modem.:Yikes:

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I think we're now at week three with no updates

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I bet it looks just like a Superhub 2, although it would be nice for something different.

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I suspect you'll be surprised.

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I know you can't say anything but do you actually know what it is yet? :)

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That question was read in the voice of Rolf Harris :(

I know who makes it, I know it's specifications, I don't know the specific model :)

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I'm sure whatever it is will be lovely !! ;)

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i dont know what it is but i want it

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I'm sure it'll make a profound difference to your life.

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Hopefully we will hear more soon.

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So it doesn't moan like my wife SUPERB

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You're clearly doing it wrong if you hear no moaning.

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Well a month on and still nothing new, I don't think VM has ever done anything on time so I guess it's to be expected. :doh:

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Yeah seems odd, I'm guessing it's ground to a halt with the wifi sharing issue and there's no rollback firmware or something?

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I'm sure we'll hear soon enough once they are ready to tell us

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As a matter of fact, the firmware has started rolling back, at least for the SH2. Mine is now back on the previous firmware.

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The SH2ac never got any firmware as far as i am aware.

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While checking a few T3 and T4 errors I've had this week, I noticed in my fw/router logs that the WAN link had been up and down a few times in succession an hour ago. Logged into the SH2 (non-AC) log screen and lo, a new config file was downloaded. The hub now shows v1.01.29 but I can't remember what it was before lol. Is this the rollback from borked firmware discussed above?

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Mine is just a regular SH2, not the ac version.

Yes, I believe so. The dodgy firmware was version 2.something from what I recall.

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It was V2.01.03 and still is for me but I expect it to be rolled back by the end of the week.

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What's the latest AC version? I'm on V1.01.11

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V1.01.11 confirmed for AC version.

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Same here.

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Dunning-Kruger effect LOL.

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In fairness, the fact that they're delaying it probably isn't a bad thing. In the past, they've pushed stuff out way before it was ready or suitable and we ended up with things like the Superhub as a result. If delaying by a month or two means we end up with a solid device at the end of it, I for one am happy.

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Is there any chat on the VM forum about this yet and i am guessing the trial forum isnt open yet as i can't see anything?

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Some information on the new VM/Ziggo/Telenet/UPC Modem. Technical specs to follow in the next few weeks; roll-out by VM by end of this year.
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2015/...w-connect-box/

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A view of the back.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/09/2.jpeg