Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

I think we will :)

council rents are based on local private rents so in reality there is no real difference between living in private rent or council rent ,the main difference imo is the standard will be higher in council rental properties .At the end of the day I have as much right to live in a council house as anyone else ,more in a lot of cases

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

After you've sold your 25 grand van on the drive :)

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Does that mean that I have a right to a council house? :confused:

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

yep ,assuming you are a British citizen

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Cool. I might ask for one then.
I can use it as a holiday home.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

But I earn enough to be a higher rate tax payer, and you say I'm entitled to a council house. How can that be right? :confused:

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Why can't it be right ? Council houses belong to every one who is a UK citizen and as such all UK citizens have a right to use them ,there are no restrictions based on wealth .Restrictions are set by the LA's based on local need and availability. As it happens I too am quite a high earner but this has been as a result of the recovery and only for the last 2 years prior to that I was a mediocre earner at best ,I'm probably in the same position as all the other tenants in my street who are working ,earning decent enough money but with no long term security.
It is not within the governments power to force people to take out mortgages which would be the result should they restrict council housing to only those who are not earning above a certain limit

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Let's pretend that you're right.

But why do you have more right than a lot of cases to live in a council house?

are you being thrown out?

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Lets pretend your not an Mod Edit.

I have paid into the system for over 30yrs It could be argued that 18yr olds that have never worked don't have that right ,also apply that thinking to some immigrants .

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

I can't be. I can spell you're properly.

I don't think it's about how long you've paid into the system and immigrants and such.

it's a bit like dole. you have to meet conditions. such as need and circumstances.

thanks anyway.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

No you don't anyone can get a council house as long as they are a UK citizen ,how long it takes depends on need and circumstances

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

So what gives you more right to one today. than somebody else today?

we can't use the terms 30yrs and no work. immigrants. and the obvious UK citizen.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

I was right ,you are an Mod Edit. :rolleyes:

This whole thread is about more people claiming HB because they are either on lower incomes or too many immigrants coming to the country and using up our housing ,I consider I have more right to council housing than an immigrant

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

I can tell you're back on the bottle again.

You didn't say that.

You said

"At the end of the day I have as much right to live in a council house as anyone else ,more in a lot of cases "

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

and ??

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

And you couldn't tell me why. so you just used the immigrant thing to distract me.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Is the problem that is there is too little social housing with too much demand? Not surprising things will get emotional. How do social services judge "need"? I doubt if it is on length of time living in the country or nationality of parents ..

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

social services don't allocate housing

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yes I did ,your just out on your daily troll to wind people up

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Local authorities then. Happy?

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Yes ;)

The problems with housing aren't as simple as too much demand although that is a factor .We need the right type of housing as well as quantity of housing not to mention the ability for those that want mortgages to pay them

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Wouldn't big business pay corporation tax not capital gains and besides I don't think it applies and even if it isn't, all that is already factored in the price and they still want 20% on top, why? they didn't need that amount five or ten years ago, not on each and every house built at any rate.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

you "don't think it applies"?! :D No, it isn't factored into the price. Why do they want 20%?.....for the same rason that I want 20% when I develop a property.....anything less than than ,with all the variables involved, there is too much risk for not enough gain. and don't always get it now. There are many variables that can affect the final profit on a build or refurb project. You try to plan for all of them but sometimes something happens and the hoped for 20% is eaten into, sometimes it isn't :shrug:
Last thing you want is to not make anything out of it (or even a loss) and if the big developers make a loss on a project it can cost jobs as well.

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But an immigrants need is probably greater than yours. Many come here with nothing and need the house you live in. Surely you can afford a private rent or a mortgage? Setting aside your years of paying into the system, should you really be in a council property when there are many others out there whos need is much greater than yours?
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need?

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

I know.
we can moan about people claiming benefits when they don't need to. and they should only receive benefits if they have to.

and we want a blooming council house.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

The top end of industry standard profit margins is 20% why can't it be at the lower end and why isn't 20% enough, why are they allowed to rise roughshod over the rules to push it up to 25% at the expense of social housing

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...-axed-councils

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

You must qualify to get a council or housing association house by not contributing ever to NI or HMRC, single young mother and not being supported by the guy who knocked her up, not being British.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Making up for the last 8 years of being in the doldrums? Dunno, making a profit? :)
Personally, I think it sucks that the developers are forced to build social housing as a condition of getting planning.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

As I explained a few posts ago ,in my opinion and experience council houses are better quality than private rented houses .There's also the question of security ,why should I sacrifice my families security in a private rental property that could be taken away at any time. Mortgages are all well and good for young people but given my age and the lack of job security why would I take a mortgage out even if a bank would give me one .

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that council houses are solely for those who are unemployed ,needy in some way or are immigrants, that has never been the case ,council houses have always been an alternative to home ownership for those not in a position to own a home and that does include a lot of people who work even more so these days with the lack of job security ,low wages and complete lack of security in private rented houses .

and I'm sorry but immigrants go to the back of the queue

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

They should but mostly don't.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Thanks for the spelling correction ;)

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Sorry for being a bit of a pedant but when I left school my English was utterly appalling, it's taken decades to get to be any good so when I see errors I tend to get a bit fussy.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

No probs ,you should see me try to pot the black with a line of people :)

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Good to see council tenants still getting looked down on and stereotyped by some when the truth is the vast majority are good, decent, honest and hard working people making the best of what they can. The cheek of private owners having to have riff raff on the same development is truly horrendous for them poor precious little ones how do they manage :rolleyes:.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

You all know the rules. One of which that we do not name call other Cable Forum members.

I have already edited some posts,don't make me come back and infract anyone.

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Fair enough

Which you don't seem to be (and possibly haven't been)
I understand what you are saying but with the lack of council housing and the many needy out there (who are in unstable jobs, or no jobs), I don't think that someone with a stable job and income should be in one :shrug:

Fair enough :tu:

Re: Oooh, look. Half a million more people claiming housing benefit under coalition.
 

Agreed.